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MM-HMM[1. ROLL CALL]
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MARCH 21ST, 2023 REGULAR MEETING OF THE DENVER COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ORDER.CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL MR. MOODY? HERE.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? OUR FATHER, WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN HALL.
THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASSED AGAINST US.
AND LEAD US NOT TO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
FOR THY IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER, AND THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA]
AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? NO AMENDMENTS FROM STAFF.CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
NUMBER FIVE IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THAT PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, OR DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING THEN, CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? I SO MOVE.
[6.A. Virginia Department Of Transportation]
TO REPORTS.WE HAVE, UM, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AARON FRENCH WITH US THIS AFTERNOON.
PRETTY SHORT LIST COMPARED TO LAST MONTH, THANKFULLY.
THEY, UH, MOVED BACK ONTO BRANCHES ROAD THIS WEEK DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION ON THAT RAW RUSTIC PROJECT OUT THERE.
GONNA BE REPLACING SOME PIPES, PULLING SOME STUMPS, AND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT UNTIL WE GET OUR SURFACE TREATMENT EQUIPMENT AND GET THAT ROAD HARD SURFACED HERE.
UM, OUR BALTIMORE ROAD CULVERT IS STILL ON PLAN FOR SPRING BREAK, WHICH IS QUICKLY APPROACHING, UM, OUR WATERFORD DRIVE AND SHEAN BOULEVARD.
THOSE CULVERT REHABS ARE COMING.
UM, I GOT WORD THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS OUT OF OUR DISTRICT, BUT WILL BE COMING BACK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO WE WILL BE IN THE QUEUE FOR, FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
OUR LITTER, LITTER PICKUP IS COMING ON THE ROUTE ONE AND 85 INTERCHANGE.
I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA START TODAY.
SHOULDERS ARE CONTINUING TO WORK.
UH, CREWS ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE SHOULDERS ON ROUTE ONE AND 40 HAD EQUIPMENT ISSUES, SO THEY'RE TAKING A BREAK AND THEY SHOULD BE BACK OUT THERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
THE SIGNAL TIMING REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE INTERSECTION OF 2 26 AND FOUR 60.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT ONE BACK A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THE LAST ONE.
STERLING ROAD, THE NO THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION THAT SIGNAGE HAS BEEN UPGRADED, HAD, UM, RE REFLECTIVITY ADDED ON THE SIGNPOSTS AND THEN A NOTICE PLAQUE ON TOP OF, ON TOP OF THE THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION SIGN TO HELP INCREASE SOME CONSPICUITY.
AND ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT REGARDING, UH, SOME ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE AS WELL.
AND WITH THE INCREASE, UH, VISIBILITY OF THE SIGNS, THERE'S NO EXCUSE NOT TO SEE HIM ANYMORE.
AND THAT'LL HELP US, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, MAKING A DECISION ON A COUPLE OF REPAIR CHOICES.
TRENCH WIDENING IS COMPLETE ON FOUR 60.
UM, WE MAY ADD SOME ON LATER IN THE SPRING.
THAT'S GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON A COUPLE VARIABLES WITH JUGGLING AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OUR STATUTORY ROADS DID SOME RESEARCH INTO THAT.
IT WOULD INDEED TAKE A LEGISLATIVE ACTION TO REDUCE THE STATUTORY ROADS IN THE COUNTY, 2 45 MILE AN HOUR.
UM, HOWEVER ANY THAT ARE OF MAJOR CONCERN WE CAN ADDRESS, UH, THROUGH A SPEED STUDIES AS WARRANTED.
AND FOLLOWING UP ON THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, WE HAD OUR WORK SESSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
WE USED SOME PROJECTED NUMBERS FOR THAT WORK SESSION.
WE GOT OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS LAST WEEK AND THEY WERE SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED, BUT IT DOES NOT
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IMPACT OUR PLAN IN THE SHORT TERM.OUR NEXT THREE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN ARE NOT IMPACTED AS FAR AS SCOPES, SCHEDULE, COST OR ANYTHING.
UM, AND THAT WILL BEGIN WITH CHERRY HILL STARTING IN THE FALL.
UM, I WILL HOWEVER, SEND OUT OUR FINAL NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED IN AN EMAIL JUST SO Y'ALL CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
AND IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT THESE REDUCTIONS THAT WE GOT WILL IMPACT US IN THE LONG TERM.
IT WILL HAVE SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, UM, TO HOPEFULLY CORRECT THAT IN THE, IN THE LONG RUN.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH MM-HMM
MS. BRYANT WILL SEND THE INFO FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT IF Y'ALL ARE WILLING.
MS. CHAIRMAN, DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD TO TELL HIM TO HAVE THE PROPER HEARING OR IF IT'S ALREADY, OR JUST A DUE TO BE SCHEDULED FOR THE SIX YEAR PLAN? RIGHT.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE A MOTION.
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION JUST CONCURRENCE THAT'S MM-HMM
I THINK ALL OF US ARE IN AGREEMENT TO GO WITH THE FOUR OF US.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? QUESTIONS? I'LL START.
GO AHEAD, MR. ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? I, YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID IT, BUT I MIGHT NOT HAVE CAUGHT IT.
I SEE THEY'RE WORKING ON FOUR 60, PUTTING EXTENDED SHOULDERS.
IS THAT GONNA GO ALL THE WAY TO NUMBER ONE HIGHWAY INCOME ALL THE WAY BACK OR AT SOME POINT IN TIME? IT WILL.
LIKE I SAID, WE MAY BUILD SOME ONTO IT THIS YEAR, UM, BUT IT'LL, WE'RE GONNA STEP IT THROUGH SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS.
THE, THE COST OF DOING IT ALL IN ONE RUN WAS QUITE EXORBITANT.
SO YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH DONE FOR THIS, THIS YEAR, THIS SPRING.
GONNA LOOK AT SOME NUMBERS AND, UH, POSSIBLY HOPING TO GET BACK OUT THERE AND DO SOME MORE.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE WHAT WE DID ON THE WESTBOUND SIDE AND TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO 6 27 2 COURTHOUSE ROAD AND ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE, TAKE IT, TAKE IT ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE.
MAYBE TO, MAYBE TO 6 25 OR, UH, LES ROAD.
'CAUSE IT DIDN'T, IT HADN'T GOT QUITE FAR FURTHER THAN WILSON'S YET, I DON'T BELIEVE.
GOT A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT
UM, THERE IS A RAISED SECTION ON AIRPORT DRIVE IN FRONT OF, UM, W UM, ROOFING ON THE ROAD GOING INTO THE, UH, OUR CONVENIENCE SITE.
UM, WHERE ON THE, YOU'VE GOT THE UNDER PAVEMENT IS THE, UH, OLD RUNWAY AIRPORT RUNWAY, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ASPHALT ON TOP OF IT, BUT IT'S GOT A CREASE NOW IN IT.
SO THE, THE, THE SIDE GOING TOWARDS THE CONVENIENCE SIDE IS HIGHER THAN THE SIDE COMING OUT OR TO GO BACK TOWARDS FOUR 60.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S A BUMP.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, I CALL IT LIKE A SPEED BUMP.
SO, UM, SOMEBODY, A CITIZEN HAD MENTIONED THAT TO ME THAT FREQUENTS THAT SITE AND SAID, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT IT, AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN JUST ACTUALLY JUST GRIND DOWN YES.
SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE EXISTING PAVEMENT MM-HMM
UM, AND THEN POSSIBLY FILL IN WITH SOME SLURRY SEAL OR WHATEVER.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S, WITHOUT SEEING IT, I'LL SAY IT'S PROBABLY JUST LIKE THE SAME THING WE EXPERIENCED OUT HERE ON ROUTE ONE WHERE IT'S CONCRETE THAT'S BEEN OVERLAID WITH ASPHALT AND THOSE CONCRETE JOINTS HAVE A TENDENCY TO EXPAND AND CREATE BUMPS.
SO IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S IN FRONT OF WHIT, UM, RIGHT IN THAT VICINITY, WHIT ROOFING.
THE OTHER IS, UH, FROM A CITIZEN ON BUTTER WOOD ROAD.
AND I THINK PART OF, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIMBER THAT'S BEEN CUT, WE'VE HAD LUMBER LOG TRUCKS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP AS A CUT THROUGH TO GET TO FOUR 60, UM, FROM IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
BUT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF SHOULDER ON BUTTER WOOD ROAD TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, SO THEY JUST WANTED YOU TO LOOK AT THE EDGE OF THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, IF THERE'S ANY DROP OFF AREAS, THAT TYPE OF THING GOING DOWN, UM, FROM FOUR 60 TO CLAYBURN ROAD.
UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE ALREADY DONE A SPEED STUDY ON THE ROAD, SO IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THAT.
BUT IF WE CAN LOOK AT JUST THE SHOULDER MAINTENANCE, WHATEVER SHOULDER WE HAVE, UM, FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, I'D BE APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
THOSE, THE TANDEMS ON THE BACK OF THE LOCK TRUCKS HAVE A TENDENCY TO JUST TAKE THE SHOULDER TO EDGE PAY RIGHT AWAY.
SO, SO IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
I ALMOST FORGOT ON WEEKLY ROAD, UM, CITIZEN CALLED ME AND I THINK, UH, YOUR OFFICE RESPONDED TO HER ABOUT THE, UM, THE TRUCKS GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND I GUESS THE ROAD, UM, HAD SOME DAMAGE OR SOMETHING ON THAT ROAD, UH, GOING UP AND DOWN, I THINK, WHICH ROAD? WE, WEEKLY ROAD, WEEKLY ROAD IN, IN PINE BEACH AREA.
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IS THIS PASTOR CAR? MM-HMMSO I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT TOO.
SO PASTOR CARLA WAS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD CONTACTED US WHEN, UH, VDO WAS GONNA DO A, A REVIEW OF STUDY, UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, ESPECIALLY, WE HAD SOME TRUCKS CUTTING THROUGH TO, UM, ELL MM-HMM
AND THEN CALLED SOME, SO I KNOW Y'ALL WERE LOOKING AT THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE, SHE HAD ASKED FOR THE FINAL REVIEW IF THE FINAL REVIEW HAD BEEN DONE, WHAT WAS THE DISPOSITION OF THE REVIEW? AND SHE'D LIKE TO, TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF CLOSURE YES.
AS TO WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THE REVIEW HAS BEEN FINALIZED YET.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID, IS WE BUNCHED THAT IN WITH THE REVIEW THAT WE HAD FOR SEVERAL OTHER ROUTES IN THE AREA, LOOKING AT MORE OF A, A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW FOR NO THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTIONS IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S, THAT'LL BE THE RESPONSE.
WHAT I COULD DO, I'LL CHECK INTO THE STATUS AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE YEAH.
WE CAN FORWARD THE CORRESPONDENCE TO YOU AND MM-HMM
YOU CAN JUST SEE US CC US ON YOUR RESPONSE BACK TO HER.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A COUPLE OTHER, I, SO AARON, YOU WERE SPEAKING EARLIER, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGE POTENTIAL WOULD REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
IS THAT LEGISLATIVE MEANING THIS BOARD OR IS THAT LEGISLATIVE? MEANING GENERAL ASSEMBLY? WHAT, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING LEGISLATIVE, I BELIEVE IT WOULD TAKE A SENATE BILL TO, TO BE PROPOSE TO DO IT, WHICH I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE INITIATED BY THE BOARD.
CRYSTAL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE? CRYSTAL? YEAH.
AARON
UM, SO YES, WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT IF YOU WERE REQUESTING A GLOBAL DECISION THAT AN AUTOMATIC ACTION WOULD TAKE PLACE, SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY, ANY CITIZEN COULD DO IT.
BUT IF IT'S COMING FROM THE BOARD, OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.
IF YOU REACH OUT TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND REQUEST A POSSIBLE SENATE BILL BE PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE CURRENT STATUTORY REGULATIONS.
IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC ROUTE, BE REVIEWED, ONE THAT IS EITHER CURRENTLY RURAL UN UNPOSTED OR RURAL POSTED 55 45 TRUCKS MM-HMM
THEN WE CAN LOOK AT A ROUTE SPECIFIC TO DO A STUDY.
UM, BUT GLOBALLY, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE STATUTORY REGULATION.
AND WOULD THAT BE SPECIFIC TO DENWOODY COUNTY OR WOULD THAT BE UNIFORM TO THE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD NOT JUST BE A SENATE BILL FOR DENWOODY.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BECAUSE CURRENT STATUTE IS STATEWIDE.
AND I'M MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS HERE BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT BEYOND OUR TYPICAL SCOPE.
NEXT QUESTION AARON, I HAD WAS, I KNOW WE, WE HAD SPOKE AT ONE TIME ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL AND BEING, THERE WASN'T MUCH OF IT THIS YEAR, THANKFULLY.
SO THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME, OF THE, OF, OF THE SNOW REMOVAL FUNDS MM-HMM
WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE FUNDS BEING THAT THEY'RE NOT SPENT 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE IT.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD USE THAT FOR MAINTENANCE IN THE COUNTY? AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS SNOW REMOVAL FUNDS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GET MORE MAINTENANCE FUNDS.
SO WHEN THEY, WHEN WE BUILD OUR BUDGETS FOR THE YEAR, WE ASSUME THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF OUR OVERHEAD BUDGET IS GONNA BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE SNOW FUNDS, SAY FROM DECEMBER TO MARCH.
WHEN WE HAVE A YEAR LIKE THIS AND WE DO NOT EXPEND OUR OVERHEAD TO THE SNOW BUDGET, A LOT OF THAT SNOW BUDGET ENDS UP, WE OVERRUN OUR, OUR NORMAL EVERYDAY OVERHEAD.
AND A LOT, A LOT OF THAT SNOW BUDGET COMES BACK AND BACK PAYS OUR OVERHEAD.
BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SO MINIMAL THIS YEAR, WE ARE GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, THAT WILL DISTRIBUTE, UH, ACROSS THE RESIDENCY AND IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN THE FORM OF MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.
SO I HAD A GENTLEMAN CALL ME LAST WEEK IN MR. MOODY'S DISTRICT THAT WAS QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROGRAM STILL EXISTED AS FAR AS BEING EXPANDED.
AND SO THEN WE THOUGHT MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE SOMEONE FROM VDOT TO COME IN AND MAYBE BRIEF THE BOARD AT ONE OF THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS SURE.
TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT PROGRAM.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW YOU'RE STILL DOING IT, IT'S STILL ACTIVE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAD WAS BEAUTIFICATION THAT INTERCHANGES, THAT WAS ANOTHER COMMENT THAT HAD BEEN MADE FROM A CITIZEN IN DR.
MOORE'S DISTRICT OF, YOU KNOW, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER PARTNER WITH SOME DIMITY
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BUSINESSES OR CORPORATE TO BE ABLE TO DO ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS OR IMPROVEMENTS AT INTERCHANGES? I KNOW CRYSTAL, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN YEARS PAST.UM, SO I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT BACK UP AND MAYBE ADD A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING.
WE CAN, CAN DIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT.
PROBABLY IT'S DETERMINES SOME PARTNERS TO WORK WITH TO GET THAT DONE AND WE'D INVOLVE, HAVE TO INVOLVE OUR INTERSTATE MAINTENANCE OFFICE AS WELL, BUT I CAN'T, UH, SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
A PRESENTATION FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION, LET KNOW A DATE.
[6.B. Chesterfield-Colonial Heights Alliance For Social Ministry (CCHASM)]
WE'VE GOT SIX B AND THAT'S THE CHESTERFIELD COLONIAL HEIGHTS ALLIANCE FOR SOCIAL MINISTRY CHASM.THANK YOU CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT CHASM.
UM, I'M THE CEO AND HONORED AND HUMBLED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THE ROLE OF HELPING CITIZENS OF THIS REGION.
I HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE AND REPORT THAT WILL BE PROVIDED FOR YOU, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD AN EXCITING YEAR AND A LOT OF MOVEMENT AND A LOT OF, UM, TRANSITION, IF YOU WILL, IN LIGHT OF THE CHALLENGING TIMES THAT WE'RE IN HARDSHIPS FOR MANY AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO BRING QUALITY SERVICES AND RESOURCES FOR THE CITIZENS OF DENWITTY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE A 30 5-YEAR-OLD ORGANIZATION.
WE PARTNER WITH SOCIAL SERVICES PARTNERS AND WITH BUSINESSES, WITH CHURCHES AND FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WITH CORPORATE.
AND SO WE ARE AN ALLIANCE OF ACROSS SIX DIFFERENT REGIONS, OBVIOUSLY DWIN COUNTY BEING OF ONE, AND WE ARE BEING ABLE TO SERVICE AND SUPPORT AND CONTINUE THAT THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF MANY THROUGHOUT OUR REGION.
WE PROVIDE FOOD AND UTILITY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES FOR AREA RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO ARE HAVING FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS, EXPERIENCING AN EMERGENCY, SOMETHING UNEXPECTED HAS HAPPENED AND WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM AND FILL THAT GAP.
AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE REGIONAL COLLABORATIONS ACROSS DIFFERENT ENTITIES ACROSS THE REGION, AND I'M DELIGHTED THAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO THAT IN, IN THE TIMES THAT WE'RE IN, OBVIOUSLY, UH, POST PANDEMIC PANDEMIC TIME, BUT ALSO THE HARDSHIPS ON THE ECONOMY, THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING WITH GETTING RESOURCES, AND REALLY THE EVERYDAY FAMILIES WHO ARE CHALLENGED ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO I, I HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT I DID WANT TO, UH, SEND, UH, APPROPRIATE THANK YOU TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES TEAM HERE IN DINWITTY COUNTY.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DELIGHTED TO BE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS TO HELP CITIZENS AND WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH FAITH, FAITH ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.
WE PROVIDED SOME ENHANCED COLLABORATION THIS YEAR.
UM, WE HAVE DONE SUCH A, UH, FINE JOB IN THE 35 YEARS PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, MOSTLY WITH THE THANKSGIVING PROGRAM, BUT I'VE NOW STARTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLANNING EVEN SOONER.
IT'S NOT THANKSGIVING, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA START OUR PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETINGS THIS MONTH.
UH, WHY? BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO PROVIDE THAT RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE.
OUR ANNUAL THANKSGIVING PROGRAM, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS SHORTLY, BUT WE SERVE JUST OVER 12,000 PEOPLE THIS YEAR, UM, AT VARIOUS SITES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SIX LOCALITIES THAT WE SERVE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOARD MEETINGS WHERE WE ARE INVITING DINWITTY COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES MEMBERS TO JOIN IN.
UH, WE DID HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES AT ONE OF OUR CHAS AND BOARD MEETINGS LAST FALL TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ABOUT THE EXCITING WORK HERE AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE, UH, QUARTERLY ENGAGEMENT.
I'M MAKING SURE THAT MY TEAM AND MYSELF AND THOSE ON MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE ENGAGING WITH THE ISSUES OF THE DAY WORKING SPECIFICALLY TO LEARN WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE HOUSING TRENDS AND THERE ARE CHALLENGES FOR PEOPLE WITH UTILITIES.
AND SO HOW CAN WE HELP FILL THAT GAP WHERE THERE'S A NEED? EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES I MIGHT HIGHLIGHT THAT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.
WE'RE NOT LEAVING THEM AN ALERT SAYING WE ARE JUST GOING TO GIVE THEM A RESOURCE AND EXPECT THEM TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.
WE WANT TO EQUIP ONE THEM WITH RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE.
UM, THIS IS A PICTURE HERE OF OUR THANKSGIVING PROGRAM THAT WE HOST AT THE CHESTERFIELD COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.
WE'VE NAMED IT IN HONOR OF MARIANNE WEEKS.
OUR FOUNDER AND THE MA WEEKS THANKSGIVING PROGRAM WENT OFF BEAUTIFULLY THIS YEAR.
WE ACTUALLY HOSTED IT AT MULTIPLE SITES, INCLUDING THE FAIRGROUNDS, BUT WE ALSO MADE SURE THAT WE OPENED IT UP IN VARIOUS WAYS TO RECEIVE AND BE ABLE TO GIVE MEALS AND RESOURCES TO PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE OF THE GREAT PARTS OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO, NOT JUST THROUGH THE THANKSGIVING PROGRAM, BUT THROUGH OUR ONGOING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
UM, IN 2020 AND 21, WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM CHURCHES
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AND THROUGH A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ABOUT $350 OR SO, GIVE OR TAKE AT THE TIME.IN THESE TIMES THAT WE'RE IN, THAT'S HELPFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE CLOSE THAT GAP, AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO DO THAT.
UM, THE THIRD AREA WHERE WE HAVE HAD, UM, A REMARKABLE YEAR IS OUR FOOD ASSISTANCE.
WE WORK WITH 20 PLUS FOOD PANTRIES ACROSS THE LOCALITIES, SO OUR COUNTIES, HOPEWELL, PETERSBURG, AND IN ALL OF THE, UM, VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO GET FOOD OUT TO PEOPLE.
WE DID ADD A NEW FEATURE THIS YEAR WITH FOOD ASSISTANCE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN DOORDASH IS A NEW PARTNER OF OURS.
UH, WE HAVE HAD A CORPORATE PARTNERSHIP WITH DOORDASH.
WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS NOW, A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT MORE.
THE REASON BEING IS THAT WE KNEW THAT FAMILIES WERE HAVING HARD TIMES GETTING TO A PANTRY, AND WE KNEW ALSO THAT WITH THE GAS PRICES RISING, IT WAS ALSO A CHALLENGE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE NOW HAVE A FOOD ASSISTANCE, UM, WITH THE DELIVERY FEATURE.
UM, JUST BRIEFLY OF THE THANKSGIVING MEAL PROGRAM.
WE WERE ABLE TO, AS I MENTIONED, HOST OUR EVENT AT MULTIPLE SITES.
SO NOT HAVING CITIZENS OF DINWITTY COUNTY BEING REQUIRED TO GO TO THE CHESTERFIELD COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.
WE HOSTED OUR EVENT AT THE EAST SIDE ENHANCEMENT CENTER.
WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICES TEAM HERE.
WE WERE ABLE TO SERVE OVER 200 FAMILIES.
AND THEN LIKEWISE, WE REPLICATED THIS AT THE PETERSBURG YMCA AND ALSO IN OTHER AREAS OF PRINCE GEORGE.
THE REASON BEING, WE'RE TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE THANKSGIVING MEAL.
THEY GET A STANDARD MEAL BAG VALUED ABOUT $25 AND A $15 GIFT CARD.
WE WERE THANKFULLY BEING, UM, COOPERATING WITH 500 PLUS VOLUNTEERS WHO CAME, JUST PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO HELP.
IT'S MORE THAN WE'VE EVER HAD.
WE USUALLY HAVE ABOUT 300 PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND I MEAN, JUST SHOW UP.
BUT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE NOW RETURNING EVERY YEAR, COMING TO HELP OUT ON SITE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THESE SEVEN DIFFERENT SITES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REGION.
15 PLUS PARTNERS, AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE IN A MOMENT.
BUT WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR DRIVE THROUGH FORMAT KNOWING THAT WE HAD A WALK-IN, BUT PEOPLE COULD DRIVE THROUGH IN A FASTER FASHION.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE OUR NUMBERS OF THOSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SERVE.
AND I MIGHT ADD, WORKING WITH SOCIAL SERVICES, WE DO HAVE A FRIDAY PICKUP, SO THAT MEANS THAT SOCIAL SERVICES TEAMS CAN COME IN AND PICK UP THEIR MEAL IN ADVANCE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO HAVE GO THROUGH THE LINE ON SATURDAY FOR CITIZENS.
IT'S A WAY TO HELP GET THAT MEAL OUT TO THEM.
UM, COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PETERSBURG, WAS ABLE TO TAKE OUT ABOUT 700 MEALS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN HAVING THOSE PEOPLE COME TO THE FAIRGROUNDS AGAIN.
UM, SO I'M REALLY DELIGHTED THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM, CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN SUPPORT, BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE IT ALONE.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE COME TO VARIOUS CHURCHES TO HELP US OUT.
AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE.
SOME ARE CHURCH MEMBERS, UM, SOME ARE CITIZENS, AND WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH VIRGINIA STATE AND WE ARE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO EVEN MORE COLLEGES LIKE RICHARD BLAND AND OTHERS TO ENGAGE THEM AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
THESE ARE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE, UM, WORKING IN TANDEM WITH DOMINION ENERGY, OPTIMA HEALTH.
I'VE CITED DOORDASH, PUBLIX, FOOD LION, SO MANY.
UM, WHEN WE PUT OUT THE CALL TO RECEIVE THANKSGIVING MEAL, THEY, THEY RESPONDED AND SAID THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS RESOURCES, ADDITIONAL HANDS-ON VOLUNTEERS, ET CETERA.
AND SO IN OUR 35TH YEAR WE'RE JUST DELIGHTED AND HUMBLED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THIS OUTSTANDING PROGRAM.
AND WE'LL HIGHLIGHT, UM, AND THANK, UM, IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM FEED MORE.
BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH A DELIGHTFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REMARKABLE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT FROM FEED MORE, IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME RECEIVING BOTH NON-PERISHABLE AND PERISHABLE FOOD ITEMS. AND WHEN THE TRUCK CAME IN, LET ME TELL YOU THAT ERUPTION OF THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER AND JOY OF THE VOLUNTEERS READY TO GET TO WORK.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE TABLE THERE, UH, THE VARIETY OF GREENS, IT'S FILLED WITH VEGETABLES.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY FROZEN CHICKEN FROM PURDUE CHICKEN.
SO WE WERE VERY THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO FEED MANY PEOPLE WHO WE HAD NOT OTHERWISE BEEN ABLE TO GET, IN THIS CASE, PERISHABLE FOOD.
AND SO WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT CONTRIBUTION AND SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP WITH FEED MORE.
NEXT SLIDE OF THE NUMBERS HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN 20 20 21, WE SERVED 363 INDIVIDUALS AND WE INCREASED THOSE NUMBERS JUST TO ABOUT OVER 500 OF THE DINWITTY RESIDENTS WHO WERE SERVED IN THIS LAST YEAR.
UH, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING HERE WITH OUR WORK WITH THE PETERSBURG YMCA, WHERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR HOST SITES FOR THE DOORDASH PICKUP.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD IN THE TRUCK THERE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MANAGERS FROM A, A LOCAL, UH, FOOD LINE WHO WAS GRACIOUS TO, UH, HELP US ENLIST HIS PICKUP TRUCK TO BRING SOME OF THOSE FOOD BOXES.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THOSE AT THE CHECKOUT LINE.
UM, BUT THEY DONATED THOSE AND WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO, UH, GARNISH SOME SUPPORT FROM SOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO GET THAT FOOD OUT TO PEOPLE.
IT'S A FOOD BOX THAT HAS A VARIETY OF FOOD ITEMS IN IT.
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NEXT SLIDE.UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THE MIDDLE SOME STUDENTS THERE FROM VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN YOUNG AND SOME VARIOUS CHURCH MEMBERS AND OTHERS HELPING OUT HANDS ON, UM, AND SOME OF OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS WHO CAME TO LEND TO HELPING HAND AS WELL FROM OPTIMA AND OTHERS.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T RECOGNIZE THE FACES, BUT THESE ARE MEMBERS OF MY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS HERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND AND SOME OF OUR CHURCH MEMBERS AND PROSPECTIVE BOARD MEMBERS AND OTHERS UP IN OUR UPPER RIGHT HAND THERE.
UM, BUT THEY COME OUT AND THEY, THEY BUTTON UP AND THEY BUNDLE UP AND THEY STAY FOR HOURS AND COME BACK DAY AFTER DAY TO HELP US OUT.
AND SO WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THAT ASSISTANCE.
AS FAR AS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, WE PROVIDE RESOURCES IN SEVERAL WAYS.
WE PAY DIRECT THIRD PARTY, SO WE PAY DIRECTLY TO A UTILITIES ORGANIZATION, THE DOMINION POWER, SOUTHSIDE ELECTRIC.
WE DON'T CUT CHECKS TO INDIVIDUALS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS VERIFICATION OF INFORMATION, VERIFICATION OF WHO THEY ARE, AND THEN WE'RE PROVIDING THAT RESOURCE ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZEN.
WE DO MAKE REFERRALS AND WORK WITH 2 1 1.
WE DO WORK WITH SOCIAL SERVICES HERE LOCALLY TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP.
WE KNOW THAT BILLS ARE EXTREMELY HIGH AT THIS POINT, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP MAKE SURE WE MEET THAT.
UM, OF THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE SERVED.
YOU CAN SEE HERE AS WELL, OUR NUMBERS WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY WORKING WITH MY BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY.
WE DID HAVE ABOUT 2200, UM, THAT'S $2,273 THAT WAS PROVIDED TO SEVEN HOUSEHOLDS.
AND IN 2122, WE SUPPORTED 22 HOUSEHOLDS WITH $5,523.
AND SO THOSE WERE CHECK PAYMENTS MADE ON BEHALF OF THEM EITHER FOR RENT, UTILITIES.
UM, WE DID HAVE AN INSTANCE OF A MORTGAGE.
AND SO WE DO THAT UNDER REVIEW AND TAKE THAT AND PROVIDE ACCORDINGLY ASSISTANCE TO THOSE CLIENTS.
THE ENHANCED COLLABORATION, I DO WANT TO SAY IS NOT, AGAIN, THROUGH OUR WORK ALONE, WE ARE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH VARIOUS PARTNERS AND WE'RE LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE PLANNING.
UM, WE CAN'T HAVE WHERE WE'RE WORKING IN ISOLATION AND NOT GETTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE RESOURCES, BUT ALSO TECHNOLOGY.
WE'RE LEVERAGING THE CLOUD-BASED TECHNOLOGIES, A LOT OF APPS AND RESOURCES.
UM, WE ACTUALLY UPGRADED OUR IN-HOUSE SYSTEM WITH MICROSOFT THROUGH A GRANT.
AND SO I'M DELIGHTED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BE VERY RESOURCEFUL IN ENHANCING OUR COLLABORATION TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR DELIVERY OF SERVICES.
AS I CITED, WE DID START THE FOOD PANTRY DELIVERY, AND THAT'S BEEN ONGOING.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE THANKSGIVING MEAL PROGRAM, WE HAVE ONGOING EVERY WEEK FOOD PANTRIES THAT ARE DELIVERING FOOD.
SO ACROSS THIS REGION HERE, WE'RE DELIGHTED THAT WE HAVE ABOUT A 10 MILE RADIUS FROM WHEREVER WE ARE DELIVERING FROM.
DOORDASH, DRIVERS ARE TAKING FOOD FROM A FOOD PANTRY AND TAKING IT OUT TO A CITIZEN.
ONE, IT'S A PERSON WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION, A PERSON WITH DISABILITIES AND OR A PERSON WHO IS OVER THE AGE OF 65.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT JUST BEING USED INADVERTENTLY, BUT APPROPRIATELY FOR CITIZENS OF THE HIGHEST NEED.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE OUR PROGRAM.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING MORE FOOD OUT AND OBVIOUSLY MORE LOCATIONS FOR PICKUP AND OBVIOUSLY MORE FOOD TO GIVE.
AND SO THAT'S A CONTINUING, UH, WORK IN PROGRESS.
UM, I CREATED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO REACH US BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE ARE A VERY SMALL AND NIMBLE TEAM.
UH, PEOPLE WILL CALL ON THE TELEPHONE AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH, I'M SORRY.
BUT WE DO KNOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH IN MANY OTHER WAYS THROUGH ONLINE AND A QR CODE.
UM, WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE TO GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE.
WE DO KNOW PEOPLE REACH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND SO WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, UNTIL WE CAN RAMP UP AND HAVE A FULL ENTIRE CALL CENTER, UH, THE VARIOUS WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN REACH US BY TELEPHONE WEBSITE, OR THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO AND DO A REGISTRATION ONLINE.
SO IN SHORT, THE TOTAL DINWITTY RESIDENTS WHO WERE HELPED WITH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WAS 22.
THE FOOD ASSISTANCE HELP THROUGH OUR FOOD PANTRIES WAS 152, AND OUR THANKSGIVING PROGRAM ASSISTED 505.
SO WE'RE VERY DELIGHTED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND MEALS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN CLOSING THE GAP OF NEED FOR CITIZENS OF DWIN COUNTY.
IF YOU NEED TO REACH ME, THIS IS MY CONTACT INFORMATION, BUT ALSO OUR WEBSITE IS 24 7.
I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WE RECEIVE MESSAGES AROUND THE CLOCK ON THE WEEKENDS AFTER HOURS AND CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THOSE IN THE QUEUE.
I'D BE DELIGHTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
BOARD MEMBERS GOT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAD A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UM, AS FAR AS YOUR DELIVERY, I, I HEARD WHAT YOUR CRITERIA IS.
DO, HOW FAR DO YOU DELIVER OUT INTO THE COUNTY? IS IT SO MANY MILES OR JUST AS FAR AS INDEN WITTY THEY WOULD
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DELIVER? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.AT THIS TIME WITH DOORDASH, THEIR LIMIT IS A 10 MILE RADIUS.
I HAVE ASKED THEM TO INCREASE THE RADIUS BEYOND THAT POINT, BUT I HAVE ALSO DONE TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK WITH MORE LOCAL PARTNERS WHO MAY BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE OUTSIDE OF THAT 10 MILE LIMIT, BUT ALSO I'M LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR SITES OF DELIVERY.
SO IF I HAVE A SITE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN OR A SITE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, OBVIOUSLY THOSE POINTS CAN HELP GET THE FOOD OUT MORE.
SO ABSOLUTELY, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ALSO WITH FOOD LION.
I, I'LL BE COMPLETELY FRANK
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOUR, YOUR CRITERIA FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IS HOW DOES THAT WORK AS FAR AS LIKE SOMEBODY CALLS YOU AND, AND NEEDS ASSISTANCE? MM-HMM
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS OF ONE, THEY NEED TO BE A RESIDENT OF ONE OF OUR LOCALITIES.
WE DO ALSO REQUIRE THAT THEY DEMONSTRATE AND DOCUMENT FOR US WHAT THE EMERGENCY IS.
SO IF IT IS A BILL THAT IS IN ARREARS, WE DO ASK FOR THEM TO SCAN A COPY OR MAIL A COPY TO US TO HAVE PROOF FOR OUR RECORDS.
WE DO CONTACT THE, UH, HOLDER, THE THIRD PARTY ON BEHALF OF THEM.
WE DO HAVE A INCOME, NOT NECESSARILY A LIMIT, BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF INCOME COMING IN OR AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE GAINFULLY EMPLOYED IN THE FUTURE.
THE REASON BEING, WE DON'T WANT TO BE SUSTAINING AND PERPETUATING.
WE WANNA HELP TEACH AND EDUCATE AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE IT VIABLE FOR THEM TO GET FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
STIPULATION AS WELL IS THAT WE DO REQUIRE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE ASSISTANCE FROM CHASM ONE TIME A YEAR, BUT WE DO WORK WITH LOCAL CHURCHES, LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHERS TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND TO FIND WHERE NEED CAN FILL THE GAP.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION, UM, FURTHER WHAT, UH, MR. MOODY WAS SAYING.
UM, I RAN ACROSS SOMEONE THAT, UM, WAS GETTING READY TO BE EVICTED AND UM, JUST, I THINK SHE'S IN HER SIXTIES NOW.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S 65, BUT, UM, WHEN SHE WAS LIVING THEY INCREASED HER RENT AND SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS GOING ON AND SHE HAD A SHORT TIME SPAN WITH THAT PERSON.
QUALIFIED, I MEAN, WORKING EVERY DAY, BUT, UM, BUT JUST GOT IN A SITUATION AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
WOULD THAT PERSON QUALIFY FOR THE ONE TIME ASSISTANCE FROM YOUR PROGRAM? THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CAVEATS.
SO ONE MEETING THAT OBVIOUSLY RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT MM-HMM
BUT ALSO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE CAN SUPPORT MM-HMM
BECAUSE WE ARE ONE NONPROFIT OF MANY MM-HMM
WE DO WORK WITH THE HOUSING RESOURCE LINE AND SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSING AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
AND MY FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE IS WORKING WITH SOCIAL SERVICES HERE ON STAFF.
UM, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE TRY TO HELP TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND FIND MULTIPLE RESOURCES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS JUST THAT THERE IS A BILL, LIKE YOU SAID MM-HMM
OUTSTANDING FOR POTENTIAL EVICTION AND OR SOMETHING THAT IS IN ARREARS, BUT WE ALSO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SOURCE OF THAT CHALLENGE MAY BE.
AS YOU SAID, RISING PRICES AND BEING ABLE TO HELP.
SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A CRISIS AFOOT WITH THE EVICTIONS AND WITH THE RAISING OF LEVELS TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP FOR CITIZENS.
DAWN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THOSE THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UH, WEST END BAPTIST HAS HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU NOW FOR PROBABLY OVER 10 YEARS.
UH, IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US.
I KNOW AT ONE TIME YOU WERE COLLECTING WOMEN'S CLOTHING FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE OF A SITUATION, THEY MAY NEED IT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO JOB INTERVIEWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN CHESTER, ARE YOU STILL DOING THAT OR, YES AND NO.
I'LL SAY WE DID SERVICE 53 WOMEN LAST YEAR AND WE DID IN THE PANDEMIC SERVE 22 WOMEN.
OUR CHALLENGE HAS BEEN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ONE, THE HIGH NEED FOR FOOD AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE HAS TAKEN PRECEDENT.
I'VE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION BY MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ACTUALLY RECENTLY THAT WE WOULD WORK ON A PROGRAM SPECIFIC BASIS FOR THOSE CLOTHES THAT WE HAVE.
SO THE CHESTER FACILITY IS STILL THERE, THE BOUTIQUE RIGHT.
THE CHESTER FIELD, THE CAREER COTTAGE WE CALL IT.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ENLISTING SUPPORT FOR, UM, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES TO REALLY PARTNER WITH US SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
MOST RECENTLY WE HAD, UH, CHESTERFIELD VIEW PROGRAM, THEIR EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM CAME THROUGH AND WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO HOST THE, UM, WOMEN'S DETENTION CENTER WOMEN, UM, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
SO YES, WE ARE STILL WORKING IN A VERY, UM, I SAY NOT OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS NOT ONE BEEN LISTED THERE.
AND IT'S TUESDAY AND THURSDAYS I THINK ARE THE COLLECTION DAYS OR THAT'S CORRECT.
PEOPLE CAN GO VISIT AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE HAD THAT, WE HAVE HAD A PAIRING DOWN OF THE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC NECESSARILY IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS,
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ONLY BECAUSE WE WERE RECEIVING AN ABUNDANCE OF DONATIONS.I'M, UH, OF THE MIND WHERE I AM PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL AGENCIES.
SO IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, IT'S MERCY MALL.
UM, FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE JAMES HOUSE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, UH, TO GET CLOTHES TO THEM DIRECTLY.
SO THE CLOTHES ARE FINDING A VERY, VERY FINE HOME, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RECEIVE CLOTHING.
WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET SOME COLLECTION BINS OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF RESOURCE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN PROPERLY VET AND DO AN INTAKE ON THOSE DONATIONS.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I, I WOULD SEND A CHALLENGE OUT TO ALL OF OUR, UH, HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN DENWOODY COUNTY.
YOU'RE AN EXCELLENT OUTLET FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE TO HELP THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE TO ALL OF OUR CHURCHES IN DENWOODY COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE.
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ALL RIGHT.OUR NEXT PARTNER IS FEED MORE DAVID WLI.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M DAVID WL, I'M THE CHIEF COLLABORATION AND PROGRAMS OFFICER AT FEED MORE.
UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO DAWN.
IT WAS SO NICE TO MEET HER IN PERSON.
I'VE HEARD SO MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE WORK SHE DOES, UM, FROM MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM.
SO IT WAS GREAT TO BUMP INTO YOU AND, UM, SEE ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'RE DOING.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FEED MORE, UH, WRIT LARGE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AS AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE ARE LOOKING, UM, TO GO TO ADDRESS FOOD INSECURITY AND THEN NARROW IT DOWN SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN DENWOODY AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
SO FEED MORE IS A, UH, RELATIVELY LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT, THAT MANY FOLKS DON'T KNOW THE SIZE OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE, THAT WE REACH, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY FREDERICKSBURG DOWN TO THE BORDER OF NORTH CAROLINA AND THEN EAST OVER AT WILLIAMSBURG TO WEST OF CHARLOTTESVILLE.
UH, WE SERVE 29 COUNTIES, FIVE DIFFERENT CITIES.
UM, AND WE ARE LOCATED IS THE HEART OF OUR, UH, OPERATION IS LOCATED IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA AND DOWNTOWN.
UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT A SATELLITE, UM, WAREHOUSE DOWN IN SOUTH HILL.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT A PARTNER DISTRIBUTION OPERATION, UM, UP IN THE NORTHERN NECK.
SO THAT IS THE, UH, SCALE AT WHICH WE OPERATE, UM, ACROSS THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THIS IS THE WAY A FOOD BANK WORKS.
I KNOW I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO, UH, FOOD BANKING.
I SPENT 20 YEARS IN THE US NAVY AND I'M RECENTLY BEEN ABLE TO FIND MY WAY OVER HERE AND I'M JUST THRILLED.
BUT IF YOU'D ASKED ME, UH, A FEW ABOUT A YEAR AGO, HEY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FOOD BANK AND A FOOD PANTRY? I PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND.
AND SO JUST FOR EVERYONE TO KIND OF RE-BASELINE EVERYONE, A FOOD BANK IS ESSENTIALLY A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION OPERATION.
UM, SO WE GET FOOD FROM VARIOUS PROGRAMS, WHETHER IT'S RETAIL, MANUFACTURING, UM, UH, GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, AND THEN OF COURSE LOCAL CHURCHES THAT DO FOOD DRIVES, BOY SCOUT TROOPS, UM, AND SUCH.
THEY BRING IN FOOD TO OUR OPERATION.
AND THEN WE USE OUR SIZE, OUR SCALE, AND OUR TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, FLEET.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THAT AMONGST, UH, AMONGST OUR POPULATION TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY ABOUT 250 PLUS FOOD PANTRIES THROUGHOUT OUR AREA.
UH, WE THINK IN TERMS OF LEVERAGE AND SCALE.
AND I WANT TO, UH, EMPHASIZE AGAIN, AS WE KIND OF MOVE DOWN THE ROAD TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING, UM, FOR EACH DOLLAR THAT WE GET, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOUR MEALS, UM, OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT IS ABLE TO BE DONE THROUGH OUR PURCHASING POWER.
UM, SOME OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR PARENT ORGANIZATION, FEEDING AMERICA OUT OF CHICAGO.
AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A, UH, UM, IT, THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE HARD WORK ARE THE ONES LIKE DAWN OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND WE'RE JUST SO THANKFUL THAT WE'VE GOT OVER 250 PARTNER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE NETWORK, UM, THAT HELP US, UH, GET OUR MISSION DONE.
UM, SINCE 2013, YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US $31,000, WHICH AGAIN EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY 120,000 MEALS, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE HERE IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
UM, JUST LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, DISTRIBUTE OVER 400,000 MEAL EQUIVALENTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 500,000 POUNDS OF FOOD, UM, HERE IN DENWITTY COUNTY.
HERE'S THE STATE OF FOOD INSECURITY IN THE STATE.
UH, IF YOU LOOK THERE, UM, I HIGHLIGHTED, UH, DENWITTY COUNTY IS ABOUT 8.9%, WHICH IS BELOW BOTH THE REGIONAL AVERAGE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE REGIONAL MEDIAN AND ALSO THE STATE MEDIAN, UM, WHICH ARE ABOUT NINE AND 10.5% ROUGHLY, UH, RESPECTIVELY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A, A NOTE THAT IS SOMETHING TO BOTH BE PROUD OF, BUT ALSO TO BE WARY OF THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WITH INFLATION, UM, WITH FOOD COSTS, UH, RISING WITH GAS PRICES RISING.
AND THEN JUST RECENTLY WE HAD SNAP, UM, EMERGENCY ALLOTMENTS THAT HAD BEEN IN PLACE SINCE, UH, THE PANDEMIC KICKED OFF THAT, UH, JUST THIS MONTH WAS THE, THE FIRST MONTH THAT WE'VE HAD WHERE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SNAP, UH, EMERGENCY
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ALLOTMENTS OUT TO SOME OF OUR MEMBERS.AND WE ARE, UM, CROSSING OUR FINGERS.
IT DOES NOT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT.
BUT AGAIN, JUST LOOKING HERE, WHERE'S DENWITTY RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE? UM, YOU GUYS ARE DEFINITELY IN, IN THE TOP THIRD OF, UH, WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING WITH FOOD INSECURITY.
AND FOOD INSECURITY IS DEFINED BY THE USDA AS LACK OF CONSISTENT ACCESS TO FOOD IN ORDER TO LIVE A HEALTHY AND ACTIVE LIFESTYLE.
SO THAT IS, UH, FOOD INSECURITY.
THERE'S JUST A, UH, HIGHLIGHT OF WHERE OUR PROGRAMS ARE THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UM, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE KIND OF FOCUS ON IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
THE FIRST IS FEEDING SENIORS, WHICH IS MEALS AND WHEELS, AND OUR CFSP, WHICH IS COMMODITY SUPPLEMENTAL FOOD PROGRAM, WHICH YOU GUYS, UM, HAVE A PROGRAM HERE THAT IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT, UH, THE COUNTY.
UH, THEN WE WORK ON FEEDING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, AND THAT'S THROUGH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES AND THAT'S, AGAIN, YOUR, YOUR CHURCHES, UH, ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS CHASM.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT MOBILE PANTRIES, WHICH, UM, DAWN SHARED, WHICH IS WHERE WE BRING A TRUCK, WE BRING IT TO AN ORGANIZATION, OR WE PUT IT IN A PARKING LOT AND WE ESSENTIALLY UNLOAD, UM, ALMOST A GROCERY STORE'S WORTH OF FOOD, UM, TO GIVE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'VE GOT OUR KIDS' PROGRAMS. UM, IT'S A SHAME THAT ANY, ANY CHILD HAS TO EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY.
UM, SO WE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE'VE GOT A KIDS' CAFE AND SUMMER MEALS, WHICH IS A LOT OF OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. WE'RE ABLE TO, TO, UM, BRING FOOD TO SCHOOLS THAT MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD AND PROVIDE THEM WITH MEALS FOR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. UH, WE'VE GOT A BACKPACK PROGRAM WHERE WE DISTRIBUTE, UH, BACKPACKS TO SCHOOL, SCHOOL AT THE END OF THE WEEK AND WE DO ABOUT 2000 A WEEK.
UH, SO THE KIDS THAT DO MEET A THRESHOLD WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD INSECURE ARE ABLE TO GO HOME WITH SOMETHING.
UM, IT'S TYPICALLY KID FRIENDLY FOOD, YOU KNOW, YOUR LITTLE CUPS OF RAVIOLI, YOUR CUPS OF OATMEAL, UM, THINGS THAT KIDS DO ENJOY HAVING ON, BUT IT'S, UH, VERY DISCREETLY GIVEN TO 'EM AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING OVER THE WEEKEND.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'VE GOT OUR SCHOOL MARKET, UM, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE TOO HERE IN DINWITTY, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MOBILE MARKET THAT OCCURS IN A SCHOOL WHERE THEY SET IT UP TYPICALLY IN A CAFETERIA AND ALL THE FAMILIES ARE ABLE TO COME SHOP WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
UM, I'VE BEEN TO A FEW OF 'EM.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY A VERY POSITIVE, UM, ALMOST, UM, KIND OF A A CARNIVAL TYPE EVENT WHERE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN, THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND, MUSIC'S PLAYING, AND FOLKS ARE JUST SHOPPING.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT ONE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU HAVE TO MEET A THRESHOLD TO SHOP, THEY OPEN IT UP TO THE ENTIRE SCHOOL COMMUNITY AND FOLKS ARE ABLE TO COME IN AND ENJOY THE, UH, THE FRESH, UH, HEALTHY FOOD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE.
ALRIGHT, SO NARROWING IT DOWN TO, TO DINWITTY, UM, YOU'VE GOT THE SCHOOL MARKETS THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT ONES GOING ON IN SOUTH SIDE ELEMENTARY IN SUTHERLAND.
UM, JUST LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED ABOUT 2100 KIDS AND A THOUSAND FAMILIES.
UM, THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 45,000 MEALS, UH, FOR MOBILE PANTRY DISTRIBUTION.
AGAIN, THAT TRUCK THAT COMES INTO A PARKING LOT THAT, UH, DAWN SO ELOQUENTLY DESCRIBED, UM, YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S GOING ON NEAR ORKIN UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND, UH, RIVERMONT SCHOOL.
AND THIS LAST YEAR IS EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 140,000 MEALS TO ABOUT 3,300 HOUSEHOLDS.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'VE GOT OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.
YOU'VE GOT THREE, UM, EMANUEL, CHURCH OF GOD, GRACE COMMUNITY MINISTRIES, AND THEN I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE DENWOODY CHURCHES PANTRY.
UM, THAT IS 16 DIFFERENT CHURCHES CROSS DENOMINATIONAL THAT GETS TOGETHER.
UM, I AM NEW, I I WAS BROUGHT IN AS MY POSITION'S BRAND NEW IT'S CHIEF COLLABORATION AND PROGRAMS. SO PART OF WHAT I'M REALLY PUSHING IS COLLABORATION.
AND AS I LOOK ACROSS OUR NETWORK OF THE, UH, THE STATE, IT'S OPERATIONS LIKE THIS THAT I WANT TO ACTUALLY, UM, IMPLEMENT MORE AND, AND COPY HOW THIS WORKS.
I LIVE IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND.
I WALK OUT MY FRONT DOOR, I LOOKED LEFT AND IT'S MY CHURCH ONE BLOCK AND IT IS A, UH, SMALL PANTRY THAT FEEDS ABOUT 30 PEOPLE A MONTH.
I GO ONE BLOCK TO THE RIGHT AND IT FEEDS 400 FAMILIES A WEEK.
MY QUESTION IS WHY, WHY IS FEED MORE IN USING THE LOGISTICS AND THE BANDWIDTH TO DO BOTH OF THOSE IF THEY CAN SOMEHOW WORK TOGETHER AS CLOSE AS THEY ARE? SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED WITH OUR TEAM OF GETTING OUT AND SEEING HOW THIS OPERATES.
UM, 'CAUSE IT REALLY IS A, UH, REMARKABLE, UM, OPERATION THAT YOU GUYS DO.
16 LOCAL CHURCHES, UM, UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
UM, BUT THROUGH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES ABOUT 200,000 MEALS AND UH, 2300 MEALS.
AND THEN FINALLY CSFP, THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY FOR LOW INCOME SENIORS.
UM, THOSE COME OUT IN FOOD BOXES.
IT'S A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND, UH, 36,000 MEALS.
AND THEN, UH, ALREADY THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT 23,000 MEALS THAT WE'VE DISTRIBUTED.
UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND, UM, WHAT WE DO FOR NOT ONLY THE STATE, BUT UM, MOTOR SPECIFICALLY FOR DENWOODY.
AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD LOVE TO OFFER IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND MOST, UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
UM, WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT WHAT WE DO WITHOUT FOLKS, UH, LIKE DAWN
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AND ALSO WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UM, FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES.UM, YOU DO HAVE AN AREA IN COLONIAL HEIGHTS AS WELL? YES.
YEAH, I, UM, I'M KINDA SCHEDULED TO HELP OUT ON THURSDAY.
UM, I DID A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, I WAS TRAVELING AROUND DELIVERING, UH, THIS TIME I TOLD HIM, TOLD THE, UM, I THINK YOUR, IS THIS WARREN? I THINK IT IS.
UM, MS. UM, WHAT ELSE? UH, MS. CHRIS CHRISTIE DALTON.
I TOLD HER THAT, UM, I WOULD WORK INSIDE THIS TIME.
INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF DRIVING AROUND, I THINK SHE HAD ME DOWN DRIVING.
I SAID, I THINK I'M, YOU KNOW, GONNA STAY INSIDE AND JUST KIND OF HELP DISTRIBUTE PACK SURE.
BUT, UM, SHE SENT OUT, UM, AN INVITATION, SO I, I SAID I'LL DO IT AGAIN.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING BY THURSDAY.
WHAT DAY YOU'RE COMING NEXT? UH, IT'S THIS THURSDAY MORNING.
YOU'RE REQUIRED TO EITHER WEAR A HAT OR HAIR, NET HAT, HAT AND MUCH BACK.
GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR FILLING THAT NEED.
WELL, IT'S, UM, DOUG PICK OUR CEO SAYS IT'S THE ONLY PLACE HE'S BEEN WHERE HE IS TRYING TO WORK HIMSELF OUT OF BUSINESS.
UM, AND WE, AND WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
HE'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL MET HIM BEFORE, BUT HE LEADS WITH A BUSINESSMAN'S HEART HEAD AND A, AND A SERVANT'S HEART.
AND SO IT, IT REALLY IS THE PERFECT COMBINATION FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AND I'LL SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
ALSO, OUR CHURCH PARTICIPATES WITH FEED MORE.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE 16 CHURCHES THAT, UM, BETWEEN THAT AND OUR BENEVOLENCE, THEY WORK TOGETHER MM-HMM
UM, TO TRY TO FEED FAMILIES DURING THE WEEK AND ALSO THE MONTHLY DISTRIBUTIONS YEAH.
THAT OCCUR HERE IN DENVER, WITTY COUNTY PARTICIPATE WITH, UM, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY LIVES THAT YOU TOUCH WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FOOD, BUT IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, UM, THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT SOME DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL'S GONNA COME FROM.
I KNOW YOU'RE EXPANDING, ALSO GONNA BE IN HENRICO COUNTY IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT.
GOING INTO A LARGER WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS A GREAT THING.
AND, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING, COMING AND BRINGING THE GOOD NEWS WITH YOU TODAY.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD NEWS, BUT, UM, WE, UH, THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT THERE'S GENEROSITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD WORK THAT GOES ON AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
AND I, I'VE LEFT OUR, UH, I'LL LEAVE OUR, WE JUST HAVE OUR HEALTH IMPACT, UH, FOR THE YEAR AND I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU ALL.
UM, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS DOWN THE ROAD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
[6.D. Senior Navigator]
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PIECE THAT TOUCHES LIVES IN DIGNITY COUNTY.VONE, I PRONOUNCE THAT THAT WRONG.
IT'S KIND OF, I MIGHT PROBABLY STILL PRONOUNCED IT WRONG.
IT'S BONNIE SHIMON SHI SHIMON.
AND THANK YOU MEMBERS CHAIRMAN AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IT'S DELIGHTED, DELIGHTFUL TO BE HERE TODAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO, UM, SHARE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND WHAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO THANK KEVIN MASSENBURG FOR THE, UM, INTRODUCTION TO MARIE GRANT.
SHE HAS BEEN SUCH A DELIGHT TO WORK WITH THROUGH THE YEARS AND IT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN DWE COUNTY AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN.
AND JUST AS A REFRESHER ON THE ORGANIZATION, UM, VIRGINIA NAVIGATOR FAMILY OF WEBSITES IS REALLY SORT OF OUR NEW NAME.
AND IT'S BEEN NAVIGATING LIGHT FOR ALL VIRGINIANS FOR, UM, 22 YEARS NOW.
SENIOR NAVIGATOR, DISABILITY NAVIGATOR AND VETERANS NAVIGATOR.
IT'S A STATEWIDE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES FREE ASSISTANCE IN HELPING SENIORS, CAREGIVERS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, VETERANS FAMILIES AND PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT VIRGINIA ACCESS VITAL, UM, SERVICES.
NOW THE SITE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH DEN WIT'S WEBSITE, WHICH THERE IS A PLACE ON DEN WIT'S WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN ACCESS.
SENIOR NAVIGATOR, THERE'S GONNA BE A DATABASE.
UM, THERE IS A DATABASE OF OVER 26,000 SERVICES.
UM, OF THOSE 26,000 SERVICES, 656 ARE LOCAL SERVICES, UM, THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN DINWITTY COUNTY.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY HOW DELIGHTFUL THIS WAS TO BE ON THE SAME DAY AS FEED MORE AND CHASM BECAUSE WE WORK
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WITH BOTH OF THOSE AGENCIES AND I WANNA REALLY GET IN TOUCH WITH DAWN AND, UM, TO JUST SEE HOW SHE AND I CAN COLLABORATE AND MAYBE GET MORE SERVICES ON THE WEBSITE THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE FOR DEN WITTY.WE ALSO HAVE A CAREGIVER TECH TOOL FINDER ON THE HOMEPAGE, A SERVICE NAVIGATOR, UM, TO HELP FOLKS AND CAREGIVERS WHO DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO START SEARCHING.
THEY CAN ANSWER 12 QUESTIONS AND THEN THEY'LL BE GIVEN THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEAR THEM, OVER 800 INFORMATIVE ARTICLES TO HELP EDUCATE CONSUMERS THROUGH THOSE DIFFICULT DECISION MAKING PROCESSES.
ASK AN EXPERT WHERE THE CUSTOMER CAN ASK QUESTIONS, UM, CONFIDENTLY TO ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO HEALTH AND AGING ISSUES.
AND A COMMUNITY CALENDAR THAT'S REALLY FOR ALL OF VIRGINIA.
BUT THERE'S A FILTER THERE SO THAT A PERSON CAN REALLY FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DEN WITTY COUNTY AREA NOW FOR SOME EXCITING, UM, UPDATES WITH TRANSPORTATION BEING AN ISSUE FOR SO MANY.
EVERYTHING FROM TRANSPORTATION TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND ERRANDS, WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE DEVELOPED A NEW DEDICATED TRANSPORTATION SECTION AND TRANSPORTATION FINDER ON OUR WEBSITE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DRPT.
AND I REALIZED THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE A LOT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY, BUT WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE AREA WE WOULD BE LISTING.
UM, AND IN LATE SPRING WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH A NEW AND IMPROVED WEBSITE.
SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THOSE DETAILS ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH NEW TRAINING MATERIALS.
AND THE LINK ON DENWITTY COUNTY WEBSITE OF COURSE WOULD BE UPDATED SO THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO THE NEW IMPROVED SITE OF SENIOR NAVIGATOR.
NOW OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO VISIT A LOT MORE THAN ABLE TO DURING THE PANDEMIC OF COURSE, WHICH IMPACTED ALL OF OUR TRAINING AND WORK.
AND I PLAN TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY EVEN MORE THIS YEAR WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, DENWITTY TRIAD CHURCHES AND ALL OF OUR LOCAL NAVIGATOR CENTERS.
I'LL BE PROMOTING OUR PARTNERSHIP OFFERING NEW TRAINING PROGRAMS AND DISTRIBUTING THE CO-BRANDED MATERIALS, WHICH WE WILL PROBABLY BE UPDATING.
IT'S THIS ONE AND SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE UPDATING IT THAT THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, I'LL BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING OF NEW GROUPS AND SERVICES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, EXPAND THE AWARENESS ON VETERANS NAVIGATOR TOO.
I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADD THAT TO OUR PLATFORM AND SO EVERYONE ALWAYS WONDERS WHAT ABOUT ALL THE FOLKS WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE COMPUTERS OR ACCESS TO INTERNET? RIGHT.
UM, TO DATE THERE ARE 692 NAVIGATOR CENTERS ACROSS VIRGINIA ASSISTING VIRGINIANS WITHOUT INTERNET ACCESS.
AND IN DENWITTY COUNTY THERE ARE 14 CENTERS THAT COULD GROW THIS YEAR AND GLADLY WE DID NOT LOSE ANY OF OUR CENTERS DURING THE PANDEMIC AND REALLY ACROSS THE STATE.
WE DID LOSE SOME BECAUSE OF SHUTDOWNS AND FUNDING.
THE CO-BRANDED CARDS I SPOKE OF EARLY AND DEVELOPED FOR THE COUNTY, UH, ARE SUPPLIED TO ALL NAVIGATOR CENTERS AND DISTRIBUTED AT TRAININGS AND MEETINGS AND WE WILL BE, UM, REPLENISHING THAT ADDITIONAL TRAINING IS AVAILABLE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENTS ANYTIME REQUESTED, AS WELL AS UPDATED TRAINING FOR NAVIGATOR CENTERS AND THE CHURCHES AND ORGANIZATIONS IN DENWITTY.
AND SO I'VE LISTED THE 14 NAVIGATOR CENTERS, UM, THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM, IC DEN WITTY AND MCKINNEY LIBRARIES, THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC AND DEN WITTY.
AND I ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, UPCOMING PROGRAM THAT I'LL BE DOING ON APRIL 6TH, UH, AT THE RAGSDALE, UM, THE DENWITTY COUNTY PUB, UH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, DENWITTY HEALTH AND REHAB DISTRICT, 19 C-S-B-H-C-C PERSONAL CARE INCORPORATED, PINE GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH, ROBERT AND BETTY RAGSDALE COMMUNITY CENTER, SMYRNA BAPTIST CHURCH, VFW POST 12 1 45 IN DENWITTY AND WESTERN HEIGHTS BAPTIST CHURCH AND WEST END BAPTIST CHURCH.
I'LL STOP BY THERE ON THE WAY HERE.
SO, I HOPE THIS TIME HAS HELPED YOU TO SEE THE VARIOUS WAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENHANCE THE ALREADY GREAT PROGRAMS HERE IN THE COUNTY WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP AND REALIZE SOME MAYBE NEW WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER IN THE COMING YEAR.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU, LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE COUNTY AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF EMPLOYEES, SENIORS, BOOMERS, CAREGIVERS, VETERANS, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
THIS IS OUR MISSION AND MY MISSION AS YOUR COMMUNITY
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SPECIALIST.AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE.
UM, AND I REALLY ENJOY BEING THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS PACKET, UM, WITH YOU ALL TOO, WITH THIS REPORT.
[6.E. Tax Exemption For The Elderly And Disabled]
ON TO ITEM SIX E AND THIS TAX EXEMPTION FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED.MR. MASSENGILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT TODAY.
IF YOU REMEMBER, DURING THE END OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE COUNTY WAS APPROACHED, UH, BY A CONCERNED CITIZEN BY THE NAME OF MS. SHERRY KIDD, UM, OF DISTRICT TWO, WHO WAS INTERESTED IN ELIMINATING THE REAL ESTATE TAX FOR ANYONE LIVING IN DIMITY COUNTY OVER THE AGE OF OF 65.
UM, AT THAT TIME, MS. KIDD HAD WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO, TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SIGN A PETITION, AGAIN, TRYING TO CEASE THE, UH, REAL ESTATE TAX FOR, FOR ALL SENIORS OVER THE AGE OF 65.
YOU REMEMBER AT THE TIME THAT SHE GAVE THAT PETITION, WE HAD ABOUT 507 PEOPLE THAT HAD SIGNED IT.
UM, NOW SINCE THAT TIME, THAT NUMBER HAS GROWN TO, TO ABOUT SIX 700 PEOPLE THAT HAD SIGNED THE, THE PETITION.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE SO FAR ALONG IN OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND WE ALREADY SET THE, THE TAX RATES FOR LAST YEAR.
UM, WHAT I HAD ASKED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPEND THE TIME BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH MS. KIDD AND ACTUALLY FORMING A COMMITTEE TO, TO LOOK MORE IN DEPTH AT, AT THE ISSUE AT HAND.
SO I I, THIS IS MY REPORT BACK AS TO AS TO WHAT WE FOUND.
SO I, I'VE HAD NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH MS. KIDD, UH, AND TALKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND, AND HAVE HAD, UM, AGAIN, IN, IN ADDITION TO CONVERSATIONS HAVE SAT DOWN WITH HER NUMEROUS TIMES.
UH, WE DID FORM A LITTLE WORKING COMMITTEE WITH MS. KIDD AND MYSELF, LORI STEVENS, THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, AND, AND JENNY PERKINS, OUR, OUR TREASURER, JUST TO EVALUATE IT.
SO THE FIRST PIECE OF THIS WAS TO JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE CENSUS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT WAS SOME OF THE BASELINE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? AND SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND BASED ON LOOKING AT, AT THE, UM, UPDATED CENSUS DATA WAS THAT IN DIMITY COUNTY, ABOUT 18% OF THE COUNTY IS 65 AND OLDER, SO ABOUT 5,060 PEOPLE, UH, OR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, AGAIN, ABOVE THAT 65 AGE.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OCCUPIED HOUSING UNITS, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE IN THIS ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE ABOUT 10,403 OCCUPIED UNITS.
UH, SO ABOUT 44.1% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN DEY COUNTY HAS SOMEONE LIVING IN THE HOUSEHOLD 60 YEARS OR OLDER.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE 60-YEAR-OLD ONLY, BUT SOMEONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD IS AT LEAST 60 YEARS OR OLDER.
UM, KEEPING IN MIND THAT SOME SENIORS ARE LIVING INDEPENDENTLY, UM, AND OTHER SENIORS HAVE MOVED IN WITH MAYBE YOUNGER FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO ASCERTAIN SOME OF THAT DATA FROM THE CENSUS.
ALSO, WE TRIED TO ISOLATE JUST, JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE IN DENWOOD ARE, ARE IN A RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOUSING UNIT THAT WE KNOW WAS 65 AND OLDER, AND THAT'S ABOUT 12% OF THE COUNTY THAT'S IN THAT, IN THAT, UM, CENSUS NUMBER.
SO WHAT WE ALSO WANTED TO DO IS, AFTER WE HAD THIS BASELINE, UH, STATISTICS WAS TO EVALUATE AND COMPARE, YOU KNOW, JUST OUR PRESENT TAX RELIEF PROGRAM AND, AND WHERE WE ARE, UH, WITH JURISDICTION SIMILAR IN SIZE, UM, AND POPULATION.
WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE, THE BUDGET IMPACT WOULD BE.
AND THEN LASTLY WITH ANY, ANY, UM, OPERATIONAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO WHAT WE FIRST STARTED TO DO WAS, WAS WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE.
AND SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO RE REMEMBER WHEN WE, WE SEND YOU YOUR TAX BILL.
WE, WE DON'T COLLECT ANY INFORMATION OF THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES IN DENWOOD COUNTY IN REGARDS TO THEIR AGE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS POOL WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T COLLECT DATA BASED ON AGE.
WE DON'T SEND YOU A TAX BILL BASED ON YOUR AGE.
WE DON'T DO IT ON YOUR, ON YOUR, YOUR RACE OR ETHNICITY OR, OR WHATNOT.
SO WE DON'T DO THAT ON YOUR AGE EITHER.
SO WE HAD TO FIND A MECHANISM TO REALLY DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF COHORT ARE WE LOOKING AT.
SO THE COMMISSIONER HAD AN IDEA OF CONTACTING THE VIRGINIA TAX DEPARTMENT.
SO THE REASON FOR THE VIRGINIA TAX
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DEPARTMENT WAS AN IDEA OF TRYING TO SEE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE 65 AND OLDER IN THE COUNTY, HOW MANY OF 'EM FILED TAXES? SO WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THAT 3,894, UM, INDIVIDUALS 65 AND OLDER FILED A TAX RETURN.UM, NOW THAT DIDN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S EVERYONE 'CAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A THRESHOLD BY WHICH THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILE TAXES TOO, IF IT'S A CERTAIN INCOME.
SO, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE 3,894, NOW, WHEN MS. STEVENS LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT'S PROTECTED, UM, FOR, FOR TAX PURPOSES WITH NAMES AND INFORMATION, SHE, SHE NOTICED THAT, THAT THERE WERE, UM, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT THAT WERE MARRIED COUPLES.
AND SO WE JUST MADE A BASELINE ASSUMPTION.
INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO AND REVIEW EACH ONE OF THE 3,894 ACCOUNTS, WE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THAT ABOUT HALF OF WHAT HER SPREADSHEET WAS WAS PROBABLY MARRIED.
SO WE, WE CUT THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 1,947.
SO THEN WE SAID, OKAY, OF THE 1,947, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN DIY COUNTY? WHICH FOR SOME OF YOU BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE, THIS NUMBER'S RAISED QUITE A BIT, BUT THE AVERAGE HOME IN DIMITY IS $175,000 BASED ON WHAT THE COMMISSION REVENUE BELIEVES.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE TAX ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU WERE TO SAY THIS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE ASSUMPTION OF JUST UNDER 200 PEOPLE, THE, THE ACTUAL TAX IMPLICATION HERE WOULD BE $2,691,727.
AND AGAIN, NOT A SCIENTIFIC NUMBER JUST USING THIS ASSUMPTION, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE WOULD, WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND KEEPING IT ALSO IN MIND THAT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE BASED ON YOUR CURRENT LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT YOU GET UP TO.
FIVE ACRES CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THIS AS WELL AS SOME OUT PARCEL, I MEAN OUT BUILDINGS.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THAT, THE COMMISSIONER FELT LIKE REALLY PROBABLY A, A MORE APPROXIMATE BUDGET IMPACT WOULD BE AROUND $3 MILLION.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE, WE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO EVALUATE AND COMPARE OUR PRESENT TAX RELIEF PROGRAM.
IF YOU RECALL, THE COMMISSION REVENUE CAME TO THE BOARD, UM, BACK IN DECEMBER AT A WORKSHOP AND, AND IT, AND WENT THROUGH A SPREADSHEET OF OTHER COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES.
AND, AND SHE FELT LIKE, AND, AND I DO TOO, THAT THAT DEY COUNTY IS IN LINE, OR IN MOST CASES BETTER THAN MOST COMPARABLE JURISDICTIONS OUR SIZE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING NOW, WE ALSO RECOMMENDED TO YOU THIS YEAR, AND YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED, WAS THAT THE, YOU REMEMBER OUR, OUR THRESHOLD WAS $40,000 OF INCOME AND ASSETS OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THAT THIS YEAR BY 25%.
SO YOU ACTUALLY WENT FROM 40,000 TO 50,000 ALREADY.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
SO THEN WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT.
SO IF, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FURTHER AND INVESTIGATE MORE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THE DIRECT IMPACT BE TO THE, TO THE OFFICE OR TO THE OPERATIONS? UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ESTIMATES 'CAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T COLLECT BIRTH DATES OR, YOU KNOW, OR AGES.
BUT, SO WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IS EVERY QUALIFIED CITIZEN, IF YOU WERE AGREED TO DOING IT, 65 AND OLDER, WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER REVENUES OFFICE.
SO PRESENTLY THE COMMISSIONER INDICATES THAT SHE, SHE TOUCHES ABOUT A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS A YEAR.
WE KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE THOUSANDS MORE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME STAFFING IMPLICATIONS IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT.
ALSO, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE INVOLVED, AND SO THERE COULD BE ANOTHER STAFFING IMPACT OVER THERE.
UM, AND I GUESS FOR, FOR THE COUNTY STAFF, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THAT, WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER JURISDICTION REALLY IN THE STATE THAT IS OFFERING A COMPLETE TAX EXEMPTION, UM, OF WHICH WAS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
NOW WE, WE DO KNOW THAT DICKINSON COUNTY HAS A PROGRAM, BUT IT'S UP TO A SPECIFIC AMOUNT.
WE'VE LOOKED AT HENRICO COUNTY, WHICH WAS ONE THAT MS. KIDD HAD MENTIONED, AND IN HENRICO COUNTY, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE SIZE OF DENWITTY, BUT IN HENRICO THEY DO GO UP TO 75,000.
UM, BUT THERE IS ALSO A CAP THAT THEY WILL NOT RELIEVE ANY MORE THAN 3000.
SO THAT'S THEIR, THEIR ABSOLUTE, UH, MAXIMUM CAP ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR REVIEW, THE OTHER PART OF THIS THAT WE WERE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED WITH WAS FROM AN INDIRECT OPERATIONAL IMPACT.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS, I KNOW WE SAT DOWN LAST WEEK WITH OUR FIRE AND EMS STAFF AND WE TALKED ABOUT JUST WHERE WE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING OUR AMBULANCES AND SOME OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
UM, SO WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT IF, IF YOU WERE TO ELIMINATE IT, IT'D BE ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO ELIMINATE,
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UM, 65 AND OLDER PAYING TAXES, THAT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE EVEN AT THE 3 MILLION IS, IS ABOUT A 14 CENT TAX INCREASE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE UP.AND SO FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BURDEN WOULD HAVE TO BE SHIFTED OR, UM, CERTAIN PROJECTS AND OR DEPARTMENTS AND SOMETHING THIS SIZE WOULD HAVE TO BE ELIMINATED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AT THE TIME IN WHICH WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GROWING OUR F FIRE AND EMS STAFF.
UM, WE WOULD THINK THAT MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE 65 AND OLDER WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN DENWOODY IF THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES, WHICH WOULD ALSO CREATE MORE, UH, AMBULANCE TRIPS UN UNFORTUNATELY AT THAT AGE COHORT.
SO, UH, AND AGAIN, IF I'M YOUNGER THAN 65, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE, UM, TO, TO MAINTAIN SERVICES THAT ARE HERE.
SO THAT, THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION.
I KNEW MS. KIDD AND I, I GOT THIS INFORMATION TODAY BY THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE.
I KNOW WE, LAST WEEK WE HAD TO POSTPONE SOME OF THE REVENUE ASSUMPTIONS FOR FY 24.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS A LITTLE BIT LATER.
BUT I WANTED UNDER THE REPORT SECTION HERE TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE FOUND, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH OUR REVIEW.
SO FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE AT LEAST COMPLETED THE TASK OF BEING ABLE TO EVALUATE THE, THE ASK OF THE CITIZEN AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS, AND I KNOW YOU ASKED ME THE BOARD TO, UM, TO GO THROUGH AND REVIEW THIS IN GOOD FAITH, AND WE HAVE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT BUDGET IMPACT NUMBER AND I JUST AT THIS MOMENT WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ANY COMMENTS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, UNLESS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD TO GO FURTHER.
AGAIN, THESE ARE HYPOTHETICAL AND ASSUMPTIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME FROM THIS POINT FORWARD EVALUATING TO GET TO A MORE SPECIFIC NUMBER.
BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT OUR ROUGH ORDER MAGNITUDE NUMBER OF 3 MILLION, UM, IS, IS FAIRLY ACCURATE, IF NOT MORE THAN, THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY BEING SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVE ON.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST, UH, JUST A COMMENT THAT YOU ANSWERED A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS.
I WAS WONDERING HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES HAD PUT THIS IN.
I JUST DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE, THE FIRST ONE TO IN INSTITUTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN OUR COUNTY.
IF I, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS, UH, YOU'RE BASING THIS ON, UH, CURRENT ASSESSMENTS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO A TAX REASSESSMENT AND THOSE VALUES ARE CERTAINLY GONNA GO UP.
SO THAT WOULD MAKE HAVE A, ANOTHER MAJOR IMPACT, AN INCREASE, MORE THAN LIKELY, ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, AND I GUESS A STATEMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. KIDD CAME HERE AND, AND SPOKE TO US AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UM, WE'VE GOT MANY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF CITIZENS THAT MAKE UP THIS COUNTY AND, AND DIFFERENT NEEDS ALONG THE WAY WITH YOUNG, YOUNGER COUPLES, WITH FAMILIES, WITH KIDS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND THEN OLDER ADULTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT NEED.
BUT, UM, I KNOW, UM, WITH MY HEALTH, UM, THE OLDER I GET, IT SEEMS THE WORSE IT GETS.
AND, UM, I THINK AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, I THINK WE, WHEN WE MAKE A BUDGET, AND THIS IS THE 12TH BUDGET THAT I'VE MM-HMM
BEEN A PART OF, AND WE HAD A FIGURE WHEN WE STARTED, WHEN THIS BOARD CAME ON BOARD, THE BUDGET WAS SET.
AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB FOR THE 12 YEARS OF LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO YOU TAKE $3 MILLION AND SAY, UM, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CUT? AND SO I, YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF THE TOP I COULD SAY, WELL, LET'S CUT REC, THAT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION.
SO WE PUT IN THE PAPER, WE'RE GONNA CUT, RECITE, AND THEN THIS ROOM IS FULL, THAT ROOM IS FULL AND OUTSIDE IS FULL BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO CUT ANYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, IT JUST, UH, OVERALL LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND KEEP THE BUDGET LIKE IT IS AND, UM, HAVE OUR SAFETY NETS FOR, FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT, UM, NEED A SAFETY NET AND, UH, CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
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UH, YEAH.UM, WELL I THINK, UH, WE DO HAVE SENIORS AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE, UM, UM, SOME ISSUES AND NOT ABLE TO, UM, MAYBE DO A LOT OF THINGS.
WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS TO KIND OF, TO ALSO ASSIST THE SENIORS.
BUT I THINK THE OTHER PART IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TAX RELIEF AND TAXES, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS, THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS GO AND THAT, AND IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, EVERYTHING FROM FIRE EMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE POLICE AND SO FORTH DOWN THE LINE.
IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, TAXES GO TOWARDS, BUT ALSO PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, UM, DIFFERENT COUNTIES HAVE A LOT OF MANDATED ISSUES, UM, THAT COME OUR WAY AND THEY TELL YOU, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS.
SO THEN WE ASK, WELL, ARE YOU GONNA GIVE US ANY MONEY? THEY SAID, NO, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY.
SO WE, YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE NUMBERS AROUND TO TRY TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK TOWARDS DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT, UM, NOBODY WANTS THEIR HOUSE TO BURN DOWN OR ANYTHING.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BE ON THE OTHER END AND RESPOND.
AND, UM, I THINK, UM, JUST LIVING AND HOPING THAT TAXES WOULD KIND OF GO AWAY SOMEDAY.
I DON'T, I I DON'T REALLY FORESEE THAT, BUT, UM, I DO LIKE, UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP, UM, THE VETERAN, THE VETERANS, THE ELDERLY, UM, SENIORS THAT, UM, THEY COULD, UM, HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THEY NEED AND, AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND I'M, AND WE SEE THAT BY THE, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I MEAN THE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY TO TRY TO HELP WITH EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, I JUST THINK THAT A LOT OF EDUCATION, UM, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, WELL, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOUR MONEY.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP SOME IF THEY UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU JUST PUT IT OUT, UH, A BLANKET, UH, STATEMENT, SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP AS WELL.
I, MR. MAKI DID, UH, MENTION THAT WE DID INCREASE THE LIMITS, UH, FROM 40 UP TO 50, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO WE, WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO TAKE CARE OF THE INFLATION AND WHAT, WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON TO, TO HELP, HELP THIS GROUP OF OUR CITIZENS OUT.
UM, I MEAN, I'M OVER 65 NOW AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT TAX BREAK.
BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE TO RUN THE COUNTY AND WE NEED FUNDS TO SERVE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
SO, UH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE HAVE DONE SO FAR IS A, A A A RIGHT.
A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO HELP THESE PEOPLE.
UM, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE A PERCEPTION, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S FAT IN THE BUDGET, UH, AND THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND CUT 10% OUT.
WELL, 10% FOR US WOULD BE OVER $5 MILLION, BUT THAT WOULD BE GOING TO EVERY DEPARTMENT AND SAYING, WE WANT YOU TO CUT YOUR BUDGET BY 10%.
WELL, I WOULD DARE ANYBODY TO LOOK AT THE DENWITY COUNTY BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR.
'CAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND FIND ME THAT 10% THAT DOESN'T AFFECT SERVICES BEING LOST IN THIS COUNTY.
UH, I MADE A STATEMENT BEFORE, YOU DON'T NEED A FIRE TRUCK UNTIL YOU NEED ONE.
AND YOU NEED ONE THAT'S WORKING AND YOU NEED PEOPLE THAT CAN DRIVE IT AND GET TO YOUR HOME OR YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, YOU DON'T NEED AN AMBULANCE UNTIL YOU NEED ONE, BUT YOU NEED IT TO BE SERVICEABLE.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON IT THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS WHEN YOU GET TO THAT PARTICULAR CALL.
UM, I'VE ALWAYS PRIDED MYSELF, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF TRYING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
I WOULD PUT OUR 12 BUDGETS UP AGAINST ANY COMMUNITIES IN VIRGINIA SAYING THAT WE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS AND THOSE DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THE STATE.
UM, THE OTHER IS GOING BACK TO WHAT MR. UM, MOODY HAD SAID.
WE, WE'VE TRIED TO RAISE THAT THRESHOLD FROM 40,000 TO 50,000 TO TRY TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF DENWOODY COUNTY.
IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT THIS COMING, COMING YEAR.
AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IS, DO YOU WANT AN INFLUX OF SENIORS TO COME TO YOUR COMMUNITY WHEN THEY KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES?
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AND OF COURSE, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS, THERE WILL BE A NEED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY OR OTHER NEEDS THAT WOULD COME TO YOUR COMMUNITY.AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE, WE WOULDN'T, UH, OPEN OUR ARMS TO THOSE PEOPLE, BUT THERE WILL HAPPEN IF YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID THERE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH THE ECONOMIC HEADWINDS THAT WE HAVE, THE REQUEST FROM OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE NEED FOR FIRE AND EMS SUPPORT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND TAKING CARE OF OUR PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICES THAT WORK FOR DENWITTY COUNTY, UH, HAS TO TAKE PRECEDENT AT THIS POINT.
SO I, I COULDN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE AT THIS TIME, UM, IN HISTORY.
[7.A. Contract Award, Physicals For Fire & EMS Staff]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEMS AND OUR FIRST ONE IS A CONTRACT AWARD FOR PHYSICALS FOR FIRE AND EMS STAFF, MS. DAWN TIPPA.MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. MASSENGILL, HOW ARE YOU? I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF CHIEF HALE, UM, WHO IS OUT OF TOWN THIS WEEK, UM, FOR THE CONTRACT AWARD FOR ONSITE PHYSICALS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF.
UM, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN UNDER THE CONTRACT WITH LIFE EXTENSIONS CLINICS INCORPORATED, BETTER KNOWN TO US AS LIFE SCAN WELLNESS, UH, CENTERS FOR OUR ONSITE PHYSICALS FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF SINCE 2019.
THAT CONTRACT IS EXPIRING ON APRIL 7TH, 2023.
UH, WE RELEASED AN RFP FOR THE ONSITE PHYSICALS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF ON THE 20TH OF JANUARY, AND WE HAD ONE VENDOR RESPOND TO THAT RFP ON FEBRUARY THE 24TH.
UM, THAT VENDOR WAS LIFESCAN WELLNESS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN VERY SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THEM, UM, UNDER THE PREVIOUS OR THE CURRENT CONTRACT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTER A NEW CONTRACT WITH LIFESCAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE QUESTION.
I I KNOW IT WAS A, A SCHEDULE A SOMEWHERE I, IT DIDN'T GET PUT IN A PACKET, I DON'T THINK, BUT WAS IT A MUCH OF A INCREASE? UH, FROM LAST CONTRACT? THERE WAS SOME INCREASE OF THE CON, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT.
UM, THE TOTAL INCREASE WAS 18%.
UM, THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY WITHHELD THE, THE INCREASES THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GIVE OVER THE YEARS, THEY DID NOT DO THE INCREASES.
SO THEY'RE CATCHING US, BASICALLY CATCHING US UP TO THE CURRENT RATES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE THIS CONTRACT AND, AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US.
[7.B. Contract Award, Employee Health Insurance Plan For FY 2024]
MOVE ON TO I, UH, ITEM SEVEN B AND THAT IS A CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.MS. HOWERTON, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.
I'M HAPPY TO, TO, UH, BRING THIS CONTRACT TO YOU TODAY THAT HAS NO INCREASE IN IT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES OR FOR THE COUNTY, FOR OUR, UM, HEALTH INSURANCE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE USE THE LOCAL CHOICE FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND, UM, WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW BY THE FIRST PART OF APRIL, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR PLANS AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO CHANGE THE TWO PLANS THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE SAID THAT WE HAVE A 0% INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF OUR LOCAL CHOICE CONTRACT FOR NEXT YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
YOU'RE WELCOME FOR BEING HEALTHY
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE NEXT IS, UM, CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD.
AND LET ME READ THE STATEMENT BEFORE WE OPEN THAT UP.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DESIRES TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT LISTED UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
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THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD IS PROVIDED.THIS TIME IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, NOR IS IT A TIME FOR DIALOGUE WITH BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF CITIZENS DO NOT, WHO DO, WHO DO TAKE PART IN THIS COMMENT PERIOD MUST ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH DECORUM LOUD, DISRUPTIVE, OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR TO INCLUDE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE SHALL BE AVOIDED.
AVOID WORDS OR ACTS THAT ARE AIMED AT EVOKING VIOLENCE OR CAN BE DEEMED TO BE A BREACH OF THE PEACE.
AND LASTLY, DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE BOARD'S CHAIRMAN, I'LL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.
IS ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
[9. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS.MR. MASSI, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? I, I WAS GONNA TALK SO POSITIVELY ABOUT DAWN AND DAVID AND I STILL WILL THEY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE LEFT
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHEN WE DID THE, THE LEAD WELL SUMMIT, WE, WE TALKED SIGNIFICANTLY ABOUT THE ISSUE OF FOOD INSECURITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT OVERALL NUMBER DROP TO 8.9% BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE, WE WERE CLOSER TO THE 11% BACK THEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ARE, ARE MAKING SOMEWHAT OF A DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND, AND BONNIE, YOU KNOW, SHIMON WHO'S, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR SOME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE DESIRE SHE HAS WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY IS JUST, JUST PHENOMENAL.
I'M GLAD WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE DAWN, DAVID AND BONNIE THAT CAN, CAN WORK WITH US IN COLLABORATION TO GET SOME OF THE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY ADDRESSED THAT WE CAN'T DO BY OURSELVES.
UM, SO WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, I'M GONNA TRANSITION TO BUDGET.
UM, SPENT THREE DAYS WITH YOU LAST WEEK DOING, DOING THE BUDGET.
SO I WANTED TO TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK THERE, FOR STICKING WITH US THROUGHOUT THAT, THAT THREE DAY, UH, SESSION AND INTO OUR STAFF THAT'S HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THOSE THAT MAY BE LISTENING OR, OR HEAR FROM TODAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR SUBMITTING THE BUDGETS OF WHAT THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED AS FAR AS TRYING TO MAKE THE COUNTY A A BETTER PLACE, UM, BUT ALSO GOTTA BE THE ONE THAT, THAT ALSO HAS TO PUT IT BACK IN ALIGNMENT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE ALWAYS WANT TO FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN REALLY THINK OUTTA THE BOX OF, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALSO THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO, TO PUT IT ALL BACK INTO ALIGNMENT AGAIN TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU TOO, THAT THE, THE BOARD WORKSHOP THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE THIRD WON'T BE HAPPENING.
SO THERE WILL BE NO WORKSHOP ON THE THIRD.
UM, THE QUESTION WAS EVEN ASKED OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING THE TAX RATE, BUT ARE WE HAVING THE WORKSHOP? WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE THIRD, BUT ON THE 11TH, UH, APRIL 11TH, YOU WILL BE COMING IN AT FOUR O'CLOCK FOR A WORKSHOP AND YOUR HEARING IS AT OR FOUR O'CLOCK AND YOUR, UH, ACTUAL HEARING IS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
SO, UM, WHAT, AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL HEAR THE HEARING AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK NEW REVENUE, UH, REVENUE BUDGET AT NEW BUSINESS AT THE VERY END OF TODAY'S MEETING WITH AN IDEA OF WHERE TO ADVERTISE THE TAX RATES FOR THE, FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR.
UM, SO AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THE HEARING ON THE 11TH AT 7:00 PM AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE THE SAME NIGHT FOR THAT.
WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE TAX TICKETS, UM, DEVELOPED AND SENT TO OUR TAXPAYERS.
UM, MONDAY I STARTED, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ALIGNMENT COMMENT.
I MET WITH, UM, SOME OF OUR UPPER ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU WILL, AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO, UM, PUT SOME THINGS BACK IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, BETWEEN US AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THERE'S OVER $6 MILLION OF NEW REQUEST.
UM, AND WHAT YOU'LL HEAR THIS AFTERNOON IS THAT YOUR REVENUE IS FAIRLY FLAT.
UM, AND SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE FLAT REVENUE AND YOU HAVE $6 MILLION WORTH OF REQUEST, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOME THINGS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
AND, AND THERE'S SOME, YOU JUST HEARD MS. TEUS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INCREASE THAT WE SAW IN THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT WE DID TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME OPERATIONAL INCREASES.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OPERAT, UH, ALL THE OPERATIONAL INCREASES IN THE BUDGET, YOU'RE NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF OF THINGS THERE.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU'LL LEARN LATER THAT WE'RE NOT GROWING AT THAT, THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THAT.
SO WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA FOCUS ON OUR, OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS AND WE'VE GOTTA DEVELOP SOME STRATEGIES TO REDUCE THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS IN WAYS THAT WE CAN WITHOUT MAKING THE TAXPAYER SUFFER IN ANY WAY.
UM, AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS ELIMINATE ANY COST THAT WE CAN'T JUSTIFY AT THESE TIMES.
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FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND WE, WE LOOK AT THIS EVERY BUDGET SEASON, BUT THIS ONE MORE SO THAN EVER, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE OPERATING BUDGET, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT.AND I APPRECIATE DR. MOORE WHAT YOU SAID.
I I WOULD ALSO PUT OUR BUDGET COMPARABLE TO, UM, COMMUNITIES OUR SIZE AND WHAT THIS BOARD HAS DONE TO HOLD THE TAX RATE AT THE SAME TIME, STILL MOVE THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, ALONG, UM, SHOULD BE REALLY COMMENDED FOR THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE WILL GET IT BALANCED AND KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY WE, WE CAN'T PUSH IT TO SOME OTHER GROUP BELOW US.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AND WE'LL GET IT TO YOU LIKE WE DO EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND I ALSO LET YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH OUR CIP COMMITTEE.
THOSE CIP PROJECTS ARE DUE THIS, THIS FRIDAY OF ANY NEW PROJECTS OR AMENDED PROJECTS.
MY GOAL IS TO STILL MEET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL.
UM, OF COURSE WE GET THE BUDGET ADOPTION IN MAY, SO WE, WE WILL HAVE A CIP UH, THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY, UM, MOVING ALONG.
SO JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU, I, IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT ON A WEDNESDAY, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD, IT'S GONNA BE AT THE RAGSDALE, UH, BUILDING IN MCKINNEY.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S TOMORROW, UM, FRIDAY I WILL BE GOING TO FORT PICKETT.
THAT IS, IT'S A RE-DESIGNATION CEREMONY.
UM, SO THAT IS BEING RENAMED FROM FORT PICKETT TO, TO, UH, FORT, UH, BARFOOT.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW NAME OF FORT PICKETT.
AND THIS RE UH, DESIGNATION CEREMONY WILL BE, WILL BE FRIDAY.
I WILL BE ATTENDING THAT TO REPRESENT THE BOARD IN THE COUNTY.
UM, OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT THAT MEETING'S AT RAGSDALE COMMUNITY CENTER FROM SIX TO EIGHT NEXT WEEK ON MARCH 29TH WILL BE ANOTHER ONE AT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT CENTER.
AND THAT WILL BE FROM SIX TO EIGHT, UH, PM AS WELL.
ALSO WANNA LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT, UH, DR. MOORE AND MS, EVEN BONNER AND I AND STAFF WERE ABLE TO ATTEND WHAT THEY CALL A QUARTERLY TOWN HALL MEETING, UM, WITH THE US UH, ARMY QUARTERMASTER CORPS.
SO GENERAL SIEGEL AND, UM, HIS TEAM MET WITH US.
UH, THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH TWO COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS THE CITY OF COLONIAL HEIGHTS AND DEWITTE COUNTY.
I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS IN THE BUDGET, BUT JUST ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO SEND SOME OF THEIR TROOPS TO SUPPORT LOCAL INITIATIVES.
SO IT COULD BE, I I WAS THINKING A LOT OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WITH FOOD DISTRIBUTION, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THEIR SOLDIERS MORE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT COULD BE EVEN HOME REPAIR PROJECTS AND WHATNOT.
I'VE GOT DONNA HARRISON AND SOCIAL SERVICES LOOKING AT WAYS TO, TO KIND OF PARTNER WITH THEM BETTER.
AND WE'RE SENDING THOSE IDEAS TO MARIE GRANT.
AND, UM, AT OUR NEXT QUARTERLY MEETING, WE, WE HA WE PLAN TO HAVE A, A MORE EVOLVED CONVERSATION WITH THE GENERAL ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, ALSO, I ATTENDED A MEETING ON MARCH 7TH, UH, ACTUALLY A WELCOME OF MS, UM, NADINE MARSH CARTER, WHO IS THE NEW, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR NEW PRESIDENT OF THE CAMERON FOUNDATION.
AS YOU KNOW, THE CAMERON FOUNDATION'S BEEN A BIG, A BIG PARTNER FOR DEWITTE COUNTY IN YEARS PAST.
AND JUST GLAD TO, TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO MS. MARSH CARTER AND, UH, HAD REAL GOOD CONVERSATION AND I KNOW SHE'S REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HER NEW POSITION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UH, THAT TO YOU ALL ALSO, UM, OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.
SO THIS IS IN TODAY'S WORLD OF INSPECTIONS, IT'S HARD TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE.
UM, AND YOU, YOU HAVE TO LOOK VERY FAR AROUND THIS REGION AND YOU, YOU WON'T SEE IT VERY OFTEN, BUT THE STATE VET'S OFFICE CAME IN AND DID A, AN AUDIT AND, UM, THE ANIMAL SHELTER HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE.
SO ALVIN LANGLEY AND HIS STAFF AND SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE THERE JUST DO A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH OUR SHELTER, BUT GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE ALSO, UM, WANTED THE COMMISSION REVENUE SHARED WITH ME THAT THE 2023 OFFICE REACCREDITATION, UM, WAS AWARDED TO, TO, UM, LORI STEVENS AGAIN THIS YEAR FOR THE, THE DEWIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER REVENUES OFFICE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE RECOGNITIONS OF, UM, THAT ONLY ARE GIVEN TO THE TOP COMMISSIONER OFFICES IN THE STATE THAT, THAT REALLY MEET RIGOROUS STANDARDS.
AND SO HER OFFICE, ONCE AGAIN HAS GOTTEN THAT, THAT, UH, RE-ACCREDITATION OVER THERE.
AND THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION, JUST SO YOU CAN GET IT ON YOUR, I KNOW HOW QUICKLY EVERYBODY'S CALENDARS GET, GET FILLED, BUT
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WITH OUR FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE, UM, AND AS PROUD AS WE ARE OF THAT INITIATIVE, WE HAVE NEVER, OTHER THAN A SMALL CEREMONIES EVERY NOW AND THEN IN FRONT OF THE FLAGPOLE, WE'VE
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NEVER REALLY HAD A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE RECOGNIZE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.AND SO NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS THURSDAY, MAY 4TH.
AND SO WE ARE PLANNING AN EVENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX OFF OF COMPLEX ON FOUR 60 AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT SIX 30.
UM, TRYING TO GET A REALLY NICE EVENT PLANNED, UH, FOR THAT EVENING.
WE HAVE SOME LOCAL VOCALISTS THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP AND SO IT SHOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME, UH, WON'T BE A VERY LONG EVENT, BUT SHOULD BE A VERY GOOD EVENT.
AND SO WE JUST DIDN'T WANT, THEN WE NEED TO GO ANOTHER YEAR WITHOUT TAKING A MOMENT AND PAUSING ON THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET THAT BE KNOWN TO THE BOARD.
MAY 4TH AGAIN, AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
[10. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND I'LL START WITH MS. BONNER.UM, JUST, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, THANK ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, CAME OUT TO WITH THEIR PROGRAMS TO HELP WITH, UM, THE, UH, CHASM AND FEE MOORE, THE SENIOR NAVIGATOR.
UM, UH, THESE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY EXCELLENT TO HELP, UM, ALL OUR INDIVIDUALS IN DITY COUNTY.
SO, UM, THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE ALL GONE, BUT THANK THEM ANYWAY FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, AND, AND ALSO TO HELP, UM, ALL THE PEOPLE IN NEED.
AND ALSO I WANTED TO, UM, UH, THANK THE, UM, THE, UM, CA UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION STAFF, UH, FOR HELPING WITH THE BUDGET MEETING, UM, AND FOR THEM WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.
AND WE, UM, HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION OVER THE LAST THREE DAYS.
SO, UH, THANK THEM AND UNDER KEVIN'S ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO GET ALL THESE THINGS, UH, PULLED TOGETHER SO PUBLIC PUBLICLY, THANK THEM.
AND, UM, ALSO JUST WANNA MENTION THAT, UM, I DID GO OUT AND READ TO SOME KINDERGARTNERS AND THEY, UM, THEY WERE A DELIGHT
THEY, UM, I READ TO THREE CLASSES, UM, AT SUTHERLAND AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM ABOUT READING AND, YOU KNOW, ASKING THEM DO THEY LIKE THEIR TEACHER AND ALL THAT KINDA GOOD STUFF.
SOME OF THEM SAID, I DON'T LIKE READING, BUT YEAH, I LIKE MY TEACHER AND ALL THAT.
BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A NICE TIME.
IT AND, UM, UH, READ TO THREE CLASSES.
SO THEY WERE REALLY, UM, A GOOD CLASS AND YEAH, THREE CLASSES.
YEAH, THREE CLASSES, BUT I
AND UM, AND UH, YOU KNOW, AT THAT AGE, JUST HUGGING AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
AND IT WAS JUST GOOD LISTENING.
ONE, ONE LITTLE KID CAME UP AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FUNNY.
THE TEACHERS, YOU KNOW, KIDS THAT AGE ARE JUST HONEST.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY WHAT IT, WHATEVER'S ON THEIR MIND.
SO ONE LITTLE KID CAME UP AND HE WAS JUST SNIFFING ME.
SO THEN THE OTHER ONES CAME OVER, THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF YOU SMELLS GOOD.
THEY SAID, OH YEAH, YOU DO SMELL GOOD.
I SAID, OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, UM, THEY WERE JUST HONEST.
IT WAS, IT WAS JUST A DELIGHT TO, SO I ENJOYED, UM, WORKING, UM, READING TO THEM AND I TOLD THEM AT SOME POINT IN TIME I WILL COME BACK AND READ TO THEM.
SO, AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I WAS ALSO HONORED TO BE ABLE TO READ AT SUNNYSIDE THIS MONDAY.
AND HAD A GREAT, GREAT GROUP OF PRE-K CHILDREN.
READ THE STORIES TO ME AND THEY WERE ALL FULL OF HUGS AND EVERYTHING.
BEFORE GOT READY TO LEAVE, TOOK PICTURES WITH THEM AND ALL.
IT WAS VERY, VERY GOOD MORNING.
AND BEFORE I LEFT ONE LITTLE BOY, HE WAS, THIS IS PRE-K NOW, HE CAME UP, HE SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, 13 AND 13 IS
I SAID, NOW WHAT? HE SAID, 26.
AND, UH, THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA BRING UP IS THESE, THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES DO A GREAT JOB.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE THEM LINKED ON TO OUR WEBSITE, MOST OF 'EM, I GUESS ALL OF THEM.
BUT I KNOW MAYBE AT SOME POINT WE MIGHT NEED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT 'EM SOMEHOW SO PEOPLE WILL KIND OF LOOK AT 'EM AND SAY, HEY, I, I CAN GET HELP FROM THIS AGENCY OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR IT, YOU MIGHT NOT SEE IT.
AND MAYBE ALSO, AND WE MIGHT HAVE ALREADY DONE IT, BUT MAYBE MENTION IT IN THE NEWSLETTER TOO.
UM, AND, AND I TOO, LIKE THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES COMING IN AND, UM, I DID CATCH FEED MORE SAID THAT, UM, FOR EVERY DOLLAR
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THEY SPEND, THEY LEVERAGE $4.AND WHEN I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE FOR EVERY $4 I SPEND, I GET A DOLLAR'S WORTH OF GROCERIES.
SO, UM, I'VE KIND OF GOT THAT IN REVERSE
UM, I WENT AND READ TO DENWOODY ELEMENTARY AND THANK GOODNESS THEY DIDN'T SMELL ME
UM, SO I THINK FOR THEIR BENEFIT, UH, BUT, UH, TRULY HAD A GOOD TIME AND, UM, THEY, UH, THEY WERE A DELIGHT TO, TO GO TO DENWOODY ELEMENTARY.
AND, UH, WHEN I STARTED OFF, I, I TOLD THEM, UM MM-HMM.
AND I ALSO READ TO A GRANDDAUGHTER THAT, UM, FOUR GENERATIONS OF LEES HAD GONE TO SCHOOL AT DENWOODY ELEMENTARY.
'CAUSE MY DAD WENT, I WENT, MY SON WENT, AND NOW MY GRANDDAUGHTERS, UM, MY GRANDSON IS GOING NEXT YEAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW, GOOD LUCK TO THEM WITH THE ELEMENTARY WHEN HE GETS OUT, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UM, IT REALLY WAS A GOOD THING AND I ENJOYED IT TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, I TOO WA WANT TO THANK CHA.
I'M FEED MOORE AND SENIOR NAVIGATOR FOR THE LIVES THAT THEY TOUCH.
WE TALK ABOUT THE, THAT WE'RE IN THE PEOPLE BUSINESS AND WE TOUCH LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THE NEED IS THERE AND IT GETS GREATER EVERY DAY.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS FOR COMING IN GOVERNMENT DAY.
IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS.
I KNOW MR. MASSELL THOROUGHLY ENJOYS THAT
AND, UH, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE OUR SENIORS MINDS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT AND WHAT OUR FUTURE MAY HOLD, UM, WHEN THEY GET TO PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHERE THE FUNDS ARE GONNA GO.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AT RAGSDALE, UM, UH, CENTER TOMORROW, OF COURSE, TEEN EXPO, UH, WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH AWAY FROM THAT.
UH, ON APRIL THE 22ND AT RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE, UH, I THINK IT'S ONE MORE WEEK OR MAYBE A LITTLE OVER A WEEK.
MARCH THE 30TH IS, IS THE, UM, CUTOFF FOR THE REGISTRATION FOR THAT.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW SPACES THAT ARE LEFT AT THIS TIME, AND I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAD PUT OUT A MESSAGE, IF YOU NEED TRANSPORTATION, THAT YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH MR. HENDERSON IN THE YOUTH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, WHICH IS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
UM, SO IF YOU NEED TRANSPORTATION, IT CAN BE PROVIDED TO YOU.
UM, I KNOW A, A BUS IS GONNA BE GOING AROUND TO THOSE THAT SIGN UP AFTER REGISTRATION IS OVER.
AFTER THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SET OUT TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANNA SAY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE DENWITTY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT WHO PASSED AWAY SUDDENLY YESTERDAY.
UH, OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILY DENWITTY MIDDLE SCHOOL STAFF AND THE STUDENTS AS THEY MOURN THIS TRAFFIC TRAGIC LOSS.
ALSO, THOSE TEACHERS THAT HAD THIS CHILD AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST A TRAGIC LOSS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM AS A FATHER OF THREE CHILDREN TO THE FAMILY.
UM, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO CLOSE MY COMMENTS TODAY WITH A STATEMENT REGARDING THE DEATH OF IVO TIO.
ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE ENTIRE DENWITY COUNTY COMMUNITY, I OFFER CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND THE LOVED ONES OF MR. IVO EO.
WE ARE ALL DEEPLY SADDENED BY THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED RESULTING IN HIS DEATH AT CENTRAL STATE HOSPITAL, WHILE THE TRAGEDY OCCURRED AT A STATE OPERATED FACILITY ON DENWOOD SOIL.
I WANT TO STRESS THE DENWOOD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS NOT INVOLVED NOR PRESENT AT THE SCENE.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION TO D DENWOODY COUNTY FIRE AND EMS FOR THE VALIANT EFFORTS TO REVIVE MR. EO.
UPON ARRIVING AT THE SCENE, WE RECOMMEND WE COMMEND OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY ANN CABELL BASKERVILLE, FOR HER SWIFT PURSUIT OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND JUSTICE.
WE PRAY THAT GOD WILL GRANT THE FAMILY OF, OF MR. TIO AND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS TRAGEDY, PEACE, STRENGTH, AND UNDERSTANDING IN THE DAYS AHEAD.
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APPEARS TO BE THE GROSS MISTREATMENT OF AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE MIDST OF A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.TRAGEDIES SUCH AS THIS BRING VITAL ATTENTION TO THE NEED TO BALANCE AND, AND, UH, ADEQUATE PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE WITH COMPASSIONATE CARE AND TREATMENT OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT AND TRAUMATIC FOR MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BEYOND.
AS SUCH, THE DENWOODY COUNTY MINISTER'S EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, MERT, MERT, CONSISTING OF LOCAL PASTORS IS OFFERING ASSISTANCE TO THOSE IN NEED OF EMOTIONAL OR SPIRITUAL SUPPORT.
THE DENWITTY COUNTY MERCK CAN BE ACCESSED BY EMAIL, MERT AT DENWITTY VA US, AND WILL RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS.
US ANYONE, ANYONE WHO NEEDS IMMEDIATE NEEDS SHOULD CONTACT DISTRICT NINETEEN'S COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD'S 24 HOUR CRISIS HOTLINE AT 8 0 4 8 6 2 8,000 OR 8 6 6 3 6 5 2 1 3 0.
[11. CLOSED SESSION]
AND NOW WE HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.THE BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.
PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, DIMITY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY, OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 3.
DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD RURAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 8 CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH.
COUNSEL BROADBAND, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE PLEASE? SO MOVED.
WE DO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.
WE WILL BE BACK IN SESSION AT 7:00 PM OKAY.
WE NEED A MOTION TO COME OUTTA CLOSED SESSION.
WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.
PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, JIM WOODY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD 2.2 DASH 3 7 180 5 BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A THREE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 180 8 CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND.
AND WHEREAS NOM HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH CLOSED MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE.
UM, WE GO STRAIGHT INTO I THINK SO.
[12.A. Retirement Resolution- Fire & EMS]
WELCOME TO EVERYBODY THIS EVENING.[01:45:01]
PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, AFTER THAT.I'M GONNA ASK, UM, DAWN TIMUS TO COME UP.
ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF AND WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE, UM, OUR NEWLY RETIRED RICHARD LANIER IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP.
RICHARD HAS WORKED WITH US, UM, IN OUR DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND HE HAS BEEN A STAPLE AROUND OUR DEPARTMENT AND IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE WORKING WITH RICHARD ALL THESE YEARS.
HE'S DONE A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS FOR US AND WE COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF HIM FOR BEING PART OF OUR DEPARTMENT ALL THESE YEARS.
SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE MINUTES TONIGHT AND PRESENT TO RICHARD LINE.
SO RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN DI COUNTY, VIRGINIA, RICHARD LANIER, WHEREAS MR. RICHARD LANIER BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND EMS ON OCTOBER 25TH, 1999, AND FULFILLED MANY ROLES OVER HIS 23 YEAR CAREER, INCLUDING, UH, EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN, INTERMEDIATE AND FIREFIGHTER EMT.
AND WHEREAS HIS MOST NOTABLE ROLE WAS ACTING AS THE DEPARTMENT'S APPARATUS OFFICER WHERE HIS EXPERTISE, DEDICATION, AND DEVOTION ALWAYS ENSURED OUR CREWS HAD RELIABLE AND SAFE APPARATUS FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF D WITTY COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS MR. LANIER WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DESIGN, THE WRITING OF SPECIFICATIONS AND THE PURCHASING OF NEW EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES UNITS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LANIER WAS RECOGNIZED BY HIS PEERS AND SUPERVISORS MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER FOR DEDICATION TO DUTY, DEDICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT AND HIS OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE A RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THIS 21ST DAY OF MARCH, 2023, DESIRES TO EXPRESS THEIR APPRECIATION TO MR. RICHARD LANIER FOR MANY YEARS OF LOYAL, DEDICATED SERVICE TO TY COUNTY AND TO EXTEND TO HIM THEIR WARMEST REGARDS AND VERY BEST WISHES FOR MANY YEARS OF HEALTH AND HAPPINESS AS HE ENTERS A NEW PHASE OF HIS LIFE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF DANITY COUNTY, VIRGINIA, THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE PRESENTED TO MR. RICHARD VENE.
AND THE COPY SPREAD UPON THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING FOR ETERNITY.
IF WE COULD GET ALL OF THE FIRE EMS FAMILY TO COME UP HERE.
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GOOD.AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS JUST PRE PRESENTED TO MR. LANIER.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA 13
[13.A. Conditional Use Permit Request Case C-23-2]
A.IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST.
MR. MASSENGILL, HOW ARE YOU? UH, AS YOU INDICATED, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CASE C DASH 23 DASH TWO.
I'D LIKE, UH, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL AS THEIR AGENT, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, BEYOND WHAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR STAFF.
UH, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING ON THE UH, THREE, UH, TAX MAP PARCELS IS FOR, UH, TO ESTABLISH A MINI STORAGE FACILITY.
THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, WHICH DOES ALLOW, UH, MANY STORAGE FACILITIES, UH, UPON RECEIPT OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, THE PROPERTY'S ALMOST FOUR ACRES.
AGAIN, IT'S OWNED B TWO AND, UM, THE PARCELS DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE ALSO ZONED B TWO.
UM, THERE'S A STRIP OF LAND THAT GOES, UH, ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE NEXT PARCEL, UH, THAT NEXT PARCEL, UH, JUST SOUTH THERE, UM, THAT HAS FRONTAGE ON MCKINNEY HIGHWAY HIGHWAY 40 AND BUCKSKIN DRIVE.
THAT PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO A TWO BACK IN 2019, UM, FROM B TWO TO A TWO.
UM, BUT THAT LITTLE SLIVER BETWEEN THE A TWO ZONE PROPERTY AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THAT ZONE B TWO AS WELL.
EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE, UM, ON THE MCKINNEY TOWN OF MCKINNEY SIDE IS OWNED B TWO AS WELL.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, B TWO AROUND THAT INTERCHANGE.
UH, WHEN THE INTERSTATE WAS UH, BUILT, UM, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME FELT LIKE THE INTERCHANGES WOULD PROBABLY DEVELOP, UH, WITH COMMERCIAL USES OVER TIME.
SO ALL THAT PROPERTY WAS ZONED, UH, B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, UH, AT THAT TIME.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, WHEN WE TOOK THE, UH, REQUEST TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THEIR REVIEW, UM, IT WAS JUST NOTED THAT, UM, ALL UTILITIES ARE ON SITE UTILITIES AS FAR AS WELL AND SEPTIC.
UM, OF COURSE THE PROPERTY IS NOT INTENDED FOR PERMANENT OCCUPANCY.
UM, SO THERE WERE NO, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY RELATED IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WAS FELT TO BE MINIMAL.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE RELATED TO THE SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY AND LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION, UH, VDOT DID LOOK AT THE, UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS INITIALLY SUBMITTED, UH, BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND VDOT USED THAT CONCEPT PLAN, UH, TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.
UH, RELATED TO THAT, UH, THERE'S THREE, UH, THREE COMMENTS THAT WE NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
ONE THAT THE PROPOSED USE WILL REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES THAT MEET VDOT STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
TWO, THE SCHEMATIC PLAN SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW SHOWS TWO PROPOSED
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COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES AND VDO T HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE TWO PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES INCLUDED IN THE SCHEMATIC LAYOUT PLAN.AND THREE, BASED UPON THE ITT TRIP GENERATION MANUAL, THE PROPOSED USE WILL GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 150 AVERAGE ANNUAL DAILY TRIPS.
THIS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ANY IMPACTS ON, UH, BUCKSKIN DRIVE, WHICH IS, UH, STATE ROUTE 80, WHICH IS A, UH, ACTUALLY A, UH, FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WAS BUILT UH, WHEN THE I 85, UH, INTERCHANGE WAS BUILT, UH, WITH ROUTE 40.
UM, AS WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF DID RECOMMEND, UH, PROPOSED, UH, CONDITIONS AS PART OF THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
ONE THAT THE STORAGE BUILDINGS AND INDIVIDUAL STORAGE UNITS LOCATED ALONG THE FRONT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE 85 AND BUCKSKIN DRIVE RIGHT OF WAY SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH A BRICK FRONT WITH EAVES FOR THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING AND UNITS VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, AS WE NOTED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, RECENT, UH, IN THE DEWEY COURTHOUSE AREA, WE HAVE HAD, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS GRANTED, UH, TWO OF THOSE FOR SIMILAR SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND WE USED THE SIMILAR CONDITIONS, UH, RELATED TO, UM, SCREENING, THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUILDING MATERIALS ARE RELATED TO THOSE, AND THOSE ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USE THIS EVENING.
AS FAR AS THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE UH, PRESENTING THIS EVENING, UH, THE SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY FACILITY WILL HAVE NO MORE THAN 43,560 SQUARE FEET OF ENCLOSED STORAGE.
THE PARKING AREA AND ALL AREAS BETWEEN THE STORAGE BUILDINGS SHALL BE PAVED AS EACH STORAGE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED.
SECURITY AND SITE LIGHTING SHALL BE DIRECTED INWARD AND DOWNWARD TO THE SITE AND SHALL NOT DIRECTLY CAST ONTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
IN ADDITION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AND SHALL NOT EXCEED HALF FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY HOUSING, THE SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY SHALL HAVE A SIX FOOT HIGH CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND ITS PERIMETER AND THE FENCING FRONTING ON THE ROUTE.
UH, F 80, THAT'S BUCKSKIN DRIVE, RIGHT OF AWAY SHALL BE BLACK OR GREEN.
HEAVY VINYL COATED CHAIN LINK FENCING OR FENCING CONSTRUCTED OF WOOD, VINYL, ALUMINUM, OR WROUGHT IRON.
THE APPLICANT WILL MAINTAIN THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED TWO PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR ANY OFFICE EMPLOYEE PARKING SPACES, UH, AS REQUIRED, UM, IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
ALSO, ONE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE SPACE WOULD BE REQUIRED ON THE SITE.
THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES TO THE BUSINESS SHALL BE AT THE VDOT APPROVED LOCATION.
THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN A VDOT COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE PERMIT, AND THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE SHALL MEET VDOT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
UH, AS PART OF THE MINI STORAGE FACILITY, UH, THERE SHALL BE NO MORE THAN FIVE INOPERATIVE VEHICLES STORED OUTSIDE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND ANY INOPERATIVE VEHICLES SHALL BE STORED IN THE REAR OF THE FACILITY AND SCREEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW.
UM, NINE, TALKING ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE FACILITY SHALL BE LIMITED TO MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM AND UM, THEN 10 AND 11 ARE WHAT WE INCLUDE IN OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ABOUT, UH, THE REVIEW TIME FOR THOSE BY STAFF AND ALSO THAT THEY HAVE TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UM, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE FRONTAGE, UH, ALONG BUCKSKIN DRIVE AND THE APPEARANCE OF THAT AND, UM, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, UH, FROM THE INTERSTATE AS WELL AS FROM BUCKSKIN DRIVE.
UM, SO STAFF DOES HAVE A RECOMMENDED CONDITION, UM, THAT WE COULD INCLUDE AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THIS EVENING.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S OWNERS SHALL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE BUCKSKIN DRIVE RIGHT AWAY AND THE PERIMETER FENCE CONSISTING OF
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SMALL EVERGREEN TREES AND HOLLY AND OR AUGUSTA SHRUBS.SO THAT'S, UH, AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS EVENING.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? UM, MR. LEE? UM, ALRIGHT, SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE AND IF YOU COULD MAYBE GO BACK TO THE AERIAL.
SO, SO BUCKSKIN DRIVE IS IN THE FRONT.
SO YOUR VIEW OF THE, OF THE, UM, OF IT WOULD JUST BE FROM THAT END, THAT FRONT, UM, BUCKSKIN DRIVE FROM 85, I GUESS IS BECAUSE THE ON RAMP, UM, THERE IS, IS PARALLEL TO KIN, RIGHT? RIGHT.
PREDOMINANTLY FROM THAT, FROM THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
UM, I DO WANT TO NOTE, UM, SINCE THE PROPERTY TO THE, ON THE, ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE IS ZONE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, UM, THERE IS A ORDINANCE REQUIRED 25 FOOT BUFFER THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE OF THE SITE.
THAT MR. PASS ON THE, THE, UH, ENTRANCE TO 85, IT SEEMS LIKE ON THIS PICTURE THERE IS SOME NATURAL VEGETATION THERE ALREADY, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES, THERE IS.
SO THE, THE VISIBILITY FROM 85 IN MY OPINION WOULD BE MINIMUM.
I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH PLANTING EVERGREENS, BUT IT'S RIGHT.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL, UM, THAT WAS NOTED.
AND YEAH, STAFF'S DEFINITELY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
THERE IS EXISTING VEGETATION THERE ALONG THE 85 CORRIDOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, I'M GOOD.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE ANY COMMENTS? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS? GOOD EVENING.
MY ADDRESS 14 100 BOYDEN PLANK ROAD.
AS ALWAYS, MARK BRAD, THEY'VE DONE A EXCELLENT JOB OF PREPARING THIS CASE.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT I NEED TO ADD TO IT, I DON'T THINK, UH, EXCEPT FOR, UH, THAT, UH, MY CLIENT IS, IS AGREEABLE WITH THE, UH, CONDITION THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED TO YOU ABOUT THE PLANNINGS AND THE FOR THE BUFFER STRIP.
UM, AS YOU SAID, THE 85 RAMP IS REALLY THE ONLY PORTION OF 85 THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THIS PROPERTY, AND THERE IS A EXISTING VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THAT BUCKSKIN, UH, LANE IS, IT'S JUST A, A DIRT LANE THAT GOES IN AND DEAD ENDS.
IT WAS JUST LEFT, YOU KNOW, AS A FRONTAGE ROAD.
UM, THIS IS THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT MY CLIENT IS LOOKING TO DO.
UM, ANY QUESTION I'LL DEFER TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOW? YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, JUST ASKING ABOUT THE TWO LARGER BUILDINGS THERE.
WHAT IF THERE WAS ANY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE TO THAT? WELL, I, I WAS BROUGHT IN ON THIS BEFORE THIS MEETING.
UM, I WASN'T HERE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT, UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UM, THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
THIS, UH, THE OUTDOOR STORAGE, UM, OF COURSE IS IN THE REAR WITH THE, THE, IF THERE ARE TO BE ANYTHING THAT, THAT GOES IN THAT AREA, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, UH, COVERED, YOU KNOW, AREA FOR AS FAR AS BUILDING GOES FOR PARKING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING UNDER THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS RVS, BOAT STORAGE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, MOST OF, AS WE'VE SHOWN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UM, AND THIS IS A PLAN I DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR HIM WHEN HE FIRST, UH, STARTED LOOKING INTO DOING THIS, BUT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, UH, ARE MOSTLY WAREHOUSE SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO ONE SIDE.
HE'S GOT A A A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS HERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT YOU CAN TAKE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO 30 OR 40 FEET, UM, BY A HUNDRED, UH, AND, AND HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE FOR, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS TO COME IN, OFFLOAD, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUT WHATEVER THEY NEED TO FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED TO ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, BASIC RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, FOR THE MOST PART.
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ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MM-HMM.PROCE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANY COMMENTS OR RELATED TO THE CASE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, THE ONE QUESTION THAT, THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT TONIGHT WAS, WILL ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO BUCKSKIN ROAD? UH, SINCE THAT'LL BE THE MAIN WAY OF GETTING TO THAT PROPERTY.
AND I'VE HEARD IT REFER TO AS A DIRT ROAD OR GRAVEL ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THAT A GREAT DEAL, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS VERY CONCERNED, AS WITH ALL CASES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE A AS STRONG EFFORT AS POSSIBLE FOR IT TO REPRESENT THE BEST THAT THEN REALLY HAS TO OFFER.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY SO MUCH DISCUSSION WAS HAD WITH THE APPEARANCES FROM THE FRONT AND SIDE.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE, UM, OF THE CASE.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THAT'S HERE.
HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE, TO THE CASE BEFORE US? NO.
I GUESS FOLLOWING A COMMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN, UM, BEFORE I GOT HERE WAS, UM, THE FRONT, UM, THE VISIBILITY FROM THE ON RAMP TO 85 AND 85 AND I, I DO THINK THEY'VE ADDRESSED THAT AND UM, SO I DON'T, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR ON IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CASE THAT WE HAVE.
MR. CHAD, HE HAD RESOLVED THAT AN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.22286 A SEVEN, THAT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH IS, UM, RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, AND GENERAL WELFARE AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.
I MOVE THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST C 23 DASH TWO AS PRESENTED WITH ADDITIONAL PROPER PRESENTED TONIGHT, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
IS THAT MR. LEE? CAN WE MAYBE PUT WORDS ON THAT CONDITION EXACTLY WHAT IT IS? I GUESS THERE'S A DESIRE TO SCREEN WITH A CERTAIN TYPE I I KNOW WE USUALLY LIKE TO, TO SPEAK OUT THE EXACT WORDS THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO DO MR. BASSETT.
COULD YOU READ CONDITION 12 AGAIN? READ NUMBER 12, READ THAT IN TO THE MOTION.
THIS WAS JUST A STAFF STAB AT, UH, COMING UP WITH THE CONDITION TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT, UH, SCREENING.
UM, AND IT'S THE APPLICANT'S SLASH OWNERS SHALL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE BUCKSKIN DRIVE RIGHT AWAY AND THE PERIMETER FENCE CONSISTING OF SMALL EVERGREEN TREES AND HOLLY AND ORUM SHRUBS.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS TO INCLUDE THAT? YEAH.
MAYBE I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL SECOND THAT.
ALRIGHT, GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL.
[13.B. Conditional Use Permit Request Case C-23-3]
UM, D TONIGHT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTS CASE C DASH 23 DASH THREE AND MR. ROBINSON WILL BE PRESENTING THAT CASE TONIGHT FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M GONNA GIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C DASH 23 DASH THREE FOR WHICH THE APPLICANT IS JACK KNAPP, WHO IS PRESENT THIS EVENING.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH A CAMPGROUND ON PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS TAX PARCEL 44 DASH 26 A.
UH, THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NASH ROAD, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.43 MILES WEST
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OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH ROUTE ONE.THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS A TWO, WHICH IS THE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL DISTRICT, UH, WHICH ALLOWS A CAMPGROUND WITH THE REQUEST, UH, OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND, UH, AS INDICATED OR OUTLINED IN THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PLANNED GROWTH AREA, WHICH RECOMMENDS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AREA.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY AN UNDEVELOPED ENFORCED PARCEL THAT IS SURROUNDED BY PARCELS OF VARIOUS SIZES.
THERE ARE SOME SMALL, SMALL PARCELS, SOME LARGER PARCELS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, MOST OF THE LARGER PARCELS ARE GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE WEST AS YOU TRANS, UH, TRANSITION, UM, DOWN NASH ROAD INTO THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA.
UM, AGAIN, WHILE ALL THE, UH, ADJOINING PROPERTIES IS ALSO ZONED A TWO, UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DENWOODY COURTHOUSE AREA, WHICH CONTAINS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING, UH, BASED ON, UH, EXISTING BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES IN THE AREA.
SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CAMPGROUND.
UM, BUT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, THIS WOULD BE A CAMPGROUND FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES OR RVS, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE NAME OF PEACEFUL PINES RV PARK.
UM, THE, THE REASON THIS, UH, PROJECT WOULD COME UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION OF A CAMPGROUND IS BASED ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINITION OF A CAMPGROUND, WHICH DEFINE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS FOLLOWS, AS IN MEANING AND INCLUDING TOURIST CAMPS, TRAVEL TRAILER CAMPS, RECREATION CAMPS, FAMILY CAMPGROUNDS, CAMPING RESORTS, CAMPING COMMUNITIES, OR ANY OTHER AREA PLACE PARCEL OR TRACT LAND ON WHICH THERE, ON WHICH THREE OR MORE CAMPSITES ARE OCCUPIED OR INTENDED FOR OCCUPANCY OR FACILITIES ARE ESTABLISHED OR MAINTAINED WHOLLY OR IN PART FOR THE ACCOMMODATION OF CAMPING UNITS FOR PERIODS OF OVERNIGHT OR LONGER, WHETHER THE USE OF THE CAMPSITES AND OR FACILITIES IS GRANTED GRATUITOUSLY BY A RENTAL FEE BY LEASE, BY CONDITIONAL SALE, OR BY COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS AND EASEMENTS.
AND I DO KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDING, BUT THAT IS THE FULL DEFINITION FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR A CAMPGROUND.
SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH YOU SHOULD SEE ON THE SCREEN, UH, THE CAMPGROUND WOULD BE ACCESSED FROM NASH ROAD BY ONE ENTRANCE ONLY, AND THE SITE WOULD CONTAIN 300 CAMPSITES, WHICH WOULD BE FULL HOOKUP.
THE SITE WOULD ALSO CONTAIN A PAVILION OR OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THEN, AND ALSO AN AREA FOR, UH, THE STORAGE OF RVS.
UM, FULL HOOKUP MEANS JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IT MEANS THAT EACH CAMPSITE WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH BASIC SERVICES.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN ELECTRIC METER, WELL WATER, SEWER, AND BROADBAND WIFI.
12 OF THE SITES WITHIN THE CAMPGROUND WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR A DA ACCESS.
AND AS YOU SEE ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THE PAVILION AND OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE LOCATED TOWARDS THE FRONT ENTRANCE OR CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
UH, AND THAT BUILDING WOULD CONTAIN THE MAIN RENTAL OFFICE AND OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD BE USED BY THE CAMPERS USING THE CAMPGROUND SUCH AS, UH, TOILETS, SHOWERS, SINKS, WASHERS, DRYERS, A PET WASHING STATION, AND OTHER COMMON AREAS, UM, FOR SEATING GAMES AND PICNIC TABLES.
AND THEN A PORTION OF THE SITE WOULD CONTAIN, UH, WALKING TRAILS, UH, WITHIN THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED, UM, THAT, THAT THOSE WALKING TRAILS WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS REQUIRED FOR, UH, RECREATION.
UH, 10% OF THE SITE, UH, HAS TO BE DEVOTED TOWARDS RECREATION.
THAT IS A ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.
UH, JUST SO FOR UM, YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN DITA COUNTY, THERE ARE CURRENTLY FOUR CAMPGROUNDS THAT EXIST IN THE COUNTY.
UH, THOSE CAMPGROUNDS INCLUDE CAMP TOWN CAMPGROUND, UH, LAKE CHEIN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY CALLED, BUT IT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS COZY COVE, UH, PICTURE LAKE CAMPGROUND AND THEN WHIPPER KNOCK MARINA IN CAMPGROUND.
AND ALL OF THESE EXISTING CAMPGROUNDS, UM, DATE
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BACK TO THE EIGHTIES AND POSSIBLY EARLIER.TWO OBTAINED APPROVALS TO EXPAND IN THE EIGHTIES, BUT TWO, THE OTHER TWO WERE EXISTING EVEN BEFORE THAT TIME.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THOSE FOUR, I'LL MENTION THAT, UH, VIRGINIA MOTORSPORTS PARK ALSO HAS APPROVAL TO ALLOW, UH, CAMPING ACTIVITY ON THE, ON THE SITE AND, UH, THAT THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE LATE NINETIES.
SO THE COUNTY CODE CONTAINS, UH, 15 MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLY WITH IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A CAMPGROUND IN IN RITA COUNTY.
I'LL GO THROUGH THESE 15 REQUIREMENTS QUICKLY.
UH, THE FIRST REQUIREMENT SPEAKS TO, UH, A MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT, MINIMUM NUMBER OF CAMPSITES, AND THEN, UH, A DENSITY REQUIREMENT.
UH, SO A MINIMUM OF 10 ACRES, MINIMUM OF 50 CAMPSITES.
UH, THE APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 186 ACRES, UM, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR MANY MORE CAMPSITES THAN WHAT THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE ARE 300 CAMPSITES PROPOSED.
UM, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT NUMBER TWO SPEAKS TO A, UH, LANDSCAPE TO BUFFER REQUIREMENT, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THE APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THIS REQUIREMENT AND BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY, UM, FORESTED, THAT WOULD ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE EXISTING VEGETATION TOWARDS THAT REQUIREMENT.
UH, THE THIRD ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, UM, REGARDS, UH, UH, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
ALONG ALL, UH, BUDDING PROPERTIES, UH, THAT IS A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET.
THE, UH, APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, AND I'LL MENTION THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONDITION WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO EVEN A GREATER, UM, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT THAN THAT, UH, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN THE CONDITIONS.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND FORESTED, THAT WOULD ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE EXISTING VEGETATION ON THE PROPERTY TOWARDS THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT.
THE FOURTH ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, UH, REGARDS, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH VDOT REQUIREMENTS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS.
UH, THE APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE SOME PRELIMINARY COMMENTS FROM VDOT.
UM, AT THE TIME THE APPLICATION WENT THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND VDOT HAS INDICATED THAT A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE FIFTH REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE, UM, SPEAKS TO THE, UM, MATERIAL THAT THE STREETS WITHIN THE CAMPGROUND HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH.
UH, THE APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.
HE'S POSTING TO U UTILIZE, UH, GRAVEL, UH, FOR ALL OF THE ROADS AND CAMPSITES WITHIN THE CAMPGROUND.
THE, UH, THE ENTRANCE AND THE PARKING AREA WOULD BE PAVED.
SO FROM NASH ROAD UP UNTIL THAT POINT IN THE PROPERTY, THERE WOULD BE PAVEMENT.
THE SIX ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, TO GO BACK TO THE, UM, AREA PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS TO BE RESERVED FOR RECREATION USE.
UH, THIS IS THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
THE MINIMUM OF 10% IS REQUIRED BASED ON THE PARCEL SIZE.
THAT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 18 PLUS ACRES.
AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT, UH, THE APPLICATION WOULD ACTUALLY EXCEED THAT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE FOR RECREATION.
UH, THE SEVENTH ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, UH, REQUIRES THE CAMPGROUND OWNER OPERATOR TO CREATE A SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UH, THE APPLICATION HAS COMPLIED WITH THIS REQUIREMENT AND THOSE DRAFT, THOSE PROPOSED RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE INCLUDED AS AN ATTACHMENT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE EIGHTH REQUIREMENT IN ORDINANCE, UH, TALKS ABOUT, IT'S BASICALLY, UM, SPEAKING TO THE REQUIREMENT OF A BOND IF THE CAMPGROUND IS NOT COMPLETED IN ITS ENTIRETY AT THE TIME OF OPENING.
UM, BECAUSE THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING TO COMPLETE, UH, THE ENTIRE CAMPGROUND IN ONE PHASE, THAT WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED IN MULTIPLE PHASES.
SO ESSENTIALLY THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT APPLICABLE.
UH, REQUIREMENT NUMBER NINE, UM, BASICALLY STATES THAT THE CAMPGROUND HAS TO FOLLOW THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTLINED IN CHAPTER 18 OF THE COUNTY CODE.
THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD BE ADDRESSED, UM, AS THE APPLICANT GOES THROUGH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
UH, REQUIREMENT NUMBER 10 IN THE ORDINANCE
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STATES THAT, UM, NO EXISTING CAMPGROUND SHOULD BE ENLARGED OR EXTENDED.AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE A NEW CAMPGROUND.
SO THIS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS APPLICATION 'CAUSE THIS WOULD BE A NEW CAMPGROUND.
UH, REQUIREMENT NUMBER 11 IN ORDINANCE, UH, STATES THAT NO CAMPING UNIT SHALL BE PLACED IN THE CAMPGROUND UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE MET.
UH, EITHER BY COMPLETION OF PLAN OR BY A BOND.
THE APPLICATION OR THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE CAMPGROUND AT ONE TIME.
SO THAT REQUIREMENT IS ESSENTIALLY NOT APPLICABLE.
UH, REQUIREMENT NUMBER 12 BASICALLY SPEAKS TO, UH, THE REQUIREMENT THAT EACH, UH, CAMPING UNIT HAS TO BE ACCESSED FROM AN INTERNAL STREET WITHIN THE CURRENT GRANT AND NOT FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD.
UH, THE APPLICATION DOES COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, AS YOU SAW ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UH, REQUIREMENT NUMBER 13, UM, SPEAKS TO COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, AND REVIEWED FURTHER AT THE TIME OF APPLYING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION.
UH, NUMBER 14, UM, BASICALLY STATES THAT, UH, SPEAKS TO, UM, SOME STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PERMANENT STRUCTURES WITHIN THE CAMPGROUND.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROHIBITED PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION IN THE CAMPGROUND, AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN THE, UH, ATTACHMENT TO THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THEN THE LAST ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, UM, TALKS ABOUT NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES.
UM, THEIR REPLACEMENT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NEW.
THERE ARE NO EXISTING NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY, SO THIS REQUIREMENT IS ESSENTIALLY NOT APPLICABLE.
SO THOSE ARE THE MINIMUM, UM, 15 REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE FOR CAMPGROUND.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED BY THE COMP PLAN AS BEING WITHIN THE PLAN GROWTH AREA, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE MEDIUM TO HIGH DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS COMPLIMENTARY SERVICE AND CONVENIENCE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES AND REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS.
AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, FALLS WITHIN THE ROUTE ONE WATER AND SEWER OVERLAY THAT OVERLAY, UM, EXTENDS OUT FROM ROUTE ONE ON BOTH SIDES A HALF A MILE FROM THE CENTER OF ROUTE ONE, UM, PUBLIC.
BECAUSE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO THIS PROPERTY, UM, THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE WELL INCEPTIVE SYSTEMS. SO THAT OVERLAY, UM, THERE'S NO IMPACT OF THE OVERLAY ON THIS PROJECT.
SO TO SUMMARIZE THE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT TO THE SITE, UH, TO COUNTY SERVICES AND FACILITIES, UM, AS I JUST MENTIONED, UM, THERE'S NO IMPACT TO PUBLIC UTILITIES BECAUSE THE SITE WOULD BE SERVED BY ON ONSITE WELL IN SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AS FOR SCHOOLS, THE CAMPGROUND IS NOT INTENDED FOR PERMANENT OCCUPANCIES.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS MINIMAL.
AND SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A MAXIMUM, UM, STAY IN, IN THE CAMPGROUND OF EIGHT MONTHS.
THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE RECOMMENDED STAFF CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, THAT IS A CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS REQUEST.
AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT, UH, THE CAMPGROUND, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO GATE THE CAMPGROUND, UM, A CERTAIN DISTANCE WITHIN ENTERING FROM NASH ROAD.
UM, AND SO THE APPLICANT WOULD INTEND TO COORDINATE ACCESS, UM, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE.
UH, HE DOES INTEND TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AS FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING ONLY ONE ENTRANCE FROM NASH ROAD, AND VDOT HAS INDICATED THAT A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE IS REQUIRED AND IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT MOST OF THE TRIPS TO THE PROPERTY ARE GONNA BE ENTERING THE SITE FROM ROUTE ONE, TRAVELING FROM NASH ROAD ON ROUTE ONE.
SO TO SUMMARIZE, UH, THIS REQUEST AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 22 DASH 22 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH OUTLINES, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, UM, ANY PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER WHICH ALLOW OUR USE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHALL NOT PROHIBIT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FROM DENYING
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AN APPLICATION FOR A PARTICULAR PERMIT UPON FINDING AFTER PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH PERMIT WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE INTENT.PURPOSE IN DESIGN OF THIS CHAPTER OR SECTION 22 DASH TWO OF THE COUNTY CODE.
SO FOR YOUR AWARENESS, SECTION 22 DASH TWO OF THE COUNTY CODE OUTLINES THE PURPOSE FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT JUST STATES THAT, UH, THE CHAPTER HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, PROVIDE FOR ADEQUATE LIGHT, AIR, CONVENIENCE AND OF ACCESS AND SAFETY.
UH, REDUCE OR PREVENT CONGESTION IN THE PUBLIC STREETS, FACILITATE THE CREATION OF A CONVENIENT, ATTRACTIVE, AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY, UH, EXPEDITE PROVISION OF ADEQUATE POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION, DISASTER EVACUATION, WATER, SEWAGE SCHOOLS, PARKS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES PROTECT AGAINST DESTRUCTION OF OR ENCROACHMENT UPON HISTORIC AREAS AND PROTECT AGAINST, UM, ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING, SUCH AS OVERCROWDING OF LAND, UNDUE DENSITY OF POPULATION, OBSTRUCTION OF LIGHT AND AIR DANGER AND CONGESTION AND TRAVEL.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, PURPOSES OUTLINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 13 RECOMMENDED STAFF CONDITIONS, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH BRIEFLY.
THE FIRST CONDITION, UH, BASICALLY SPEAKS TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION AND THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.
THE SECOND CONDITION, UH, BASICALLY LIMITS THE NUMBER OF CAMPSITES IN THE PROJECT TO 300 CAMPSITES.
THE THIRD CONDITION, UH, STATES THAT THE CAMPGROUND HAS TO OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPOSED RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS PROVIDED IN AN ATTACHMENT TO THE STAFF REPORT.
THE FOURTH CONDITION, UH, SPEAKS TO THE, UM, BUFFER THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED ON THE EASTERN PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, UH, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET, BUT, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A CONDITION OF 75 FEET.
THE FIFTH CONDITION, UM, STATES THAT THE CAMPGROUND SHALL BE OCCUPIED ONLY BY PERSONS IN CAMPING UNITS.
AND I'LL MENTION THAT THIS CONDITION HAS BEEN, UH, REVISED SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS REQUEST.
THAT, UH, LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF MONTHS THAT, UH, A CAMPER WOULD STAY IN THE CAMPGROUND IS, IS REFLECTED IN THIS CONDITION, WHICH GOES ON TO STATE THAT PERMITS PERMANENT OCCUPANCY OF A CAMPSITE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS A PERIOD EXCEEDING EIGHT MONTHS IS PROHIBITED AND THAT WOULD EXCLUDE STAFF AND OPERATORS AND MANAGERS, ET CETERA.
THE SIXTH CONDITION, UH, BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT COMPLIANCE, UH, THAT THE WATER SOURCES AND SEPTIC AND SEWER AND SEPTIC FACILITIES HAVE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, UH, THE STATE REGULATIONS, THE BOARD OF HEALTH, THE STATE WORK CONTROL BOARD, AND THIS IS A CONDITION THAT WAS PLACED ON SOME OF THE, ON OUR EXISTING CAMPGROUNDS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT, UM, NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO EXISTING WELLS, UH, SHALL NOT BE CREATED BY THE PROJECT AND SPEAKS TO A REQUIREMENT OF A, UH, HYDROGEOLOGICAL STUDY IN AN AQUA TEST.
UH, THE EIGHTH CONDITION, UM, EXTERIOR LIGHTING HAS TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AND NOT EXCEED A HALF FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINES.
THE NINTH CONDITION, UH, IF ANY EVENTS ARE HELD IN THE CAMPGROUND, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY AND OBTAIN A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
THE 10TH CONDITION, UM, REQUIREMENT OF A REGISTER FOR, UM, ALL OF THE VISITORS TO THE CAMPGROUND.
THIS IS ANOTHER CONDITION THAT WAS PLACED ON, UH, THE EXISTING CAMPGROUNDS IN THE COUNTY.
SO THIS IS WHY THIS IS INCLUDED.
UH, THE 11TH CONDITION, UH, TALKS ABOUT DESIGNATING A POINT OF CONTACT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE 24 7, UH, 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS PER YEAR.
THE 12TH CONDITION, UM, CAMPGROUND IS SUBJECT TO ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER CONDITION THAT WAS PLACED ON OUR EXISTING CAMPGROUNDS IN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THE LAST CONDITION IS BASICALLY
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STATING THAT THESE CONDITIONS, UM, ARE IN ADDITION TO BASIC ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, UH, OF THE COUNTY CODE.SO THESE ARE NOT, UH, THESE WOULD NOT BE THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO MEET, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO COMPLY WITH, UM, ALL OF OTHER, UH, DEN WEEE COUNTY CODES.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS, UH, PROJECT AT THEIR MEETINGS ON JANUARY 11TH AND FEBRUARY 8TH.
IT WAS TABLED ON JANUARY THE 11TH FOR FURTHER REVIEW.
AND THEN ON FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH, THEY DID, UM, RECOMMEND A MOTION WAS MADE TO RECOMMEND THIS DISAPPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
WELL, IT WAS A TIED, UH, MOTION SO THE VOTE WAS TIED, SO THE MOTION FAILED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT MAKE ANY OTHER MOTIONS THAT EVENING.
SO THIS HAS BEEN SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A TIED RECOMMENDATION AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THIS TIME, AND MR. JACK KNAPP IS PRESENT THIS EVENING AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I PROBABLY, THIS MIGHT NOT BE YOUR QUESTION, IT MIGHT BE THE, UM, APPLICANT'S QUESTION, BUT I'LL ASK IT.
AND THEN IF WHEN HE PRESENTS, UM, WE CAN, SO NUMBER FIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, PERMANENT OCCUPANCY AS DEFINED BY A PERIOD OF, UM, NOT EXCEEDING EIGHT MONTHS.
WHAT'S THE, SO I'M THERE FOR EIGHT MONTHS, CAN I LEAVE FOR A DAY AND THEN COME BACK? UM, YES.
THE NEXT DAY AND BE EIGHT, FOUR MONTHS.
IS IT A WEEK? IS IT A MONTH? UM, WHAT IS IT? IT DOESN'T SAY THERE? UM, I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THAT IS A COMMENT AND A QUESTION THAT DID COME UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? DO I THINK I ASKED THE APPLICANT QUESTION? OKAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? YES, PLEASE.
AND PRESENT THE CASE? MY WIFE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HELP.
WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION WE'D LIKE TO DO WITH A POWERPOINT.
IT'S JUST ABOUT 10 MINUTES LONG.
HOPEFULLY IT'LL HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE BROCHURE AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS GIVEN TO YOU BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PEACEFUL PINES RV PARK.
AS WE MENTIONED IN THE BROCHURE, THIS PARK IS OUR DREAM TO CALL HOME.
WE ARE FULL-TIME REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS.
WE KNOW THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND SET UP.
WE PLAN TO SELL OUR CURRENT HOUSE AND BUY A MOTOR HOME TO LIVE IN FULL-TIME ON SITE AS THE PROPERTY MANAGERS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE NEXT 10 MINUTES TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR VISION OF HOW PEACEFUL PINES RV PARK WILL LOOK.
OUR GOAL IS TO HELP YOU SEE THE ASSET WE WILL BRING TO THE OFFICIAL DENWITTY COUNTY PLAN GROWTH AREA, AND THAT YOU WILL NOT ONLY APPROVE OUR APPLICATION FOR THE COUNT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT OUR RV PARK COMING HERE TO DENWITTY COUNTY.
THE INSPIRATION FOR OUR DESIGN CAME FROM ONE PARTICULAR SITE AT AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS CAMPGROUND IN ALABAMA.
WE LOVE THIS SPACE AS WELL AS THE ESTABLISHED TREES BLOCKING SITES AND SOUNDS OF NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN BECOMING LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER FOUR CAMPGROUNDS IN DENWITTY.
SIX MONTHS AGO WE STARTED THIS PROCESS AND APPROACHED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS WITH OUR IDEA.
HOWEVER, HAVING BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MEETINGS, A MEETING WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL NOT BE A MOBILE HOME PARK.
SO MUCH SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HELP WITH STRICT RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT WE ARE NOW, THAT ARE NOW CONDITIONS IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH RIDES IN PERPETUITY WITH THE PROPERTY TO PREVENT A MOBILE HOME PARK FROM HAPPENING.
WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S HELP AND MR. ROBINSON'S DIRECTION, HERE'S HOW WE ESTABLISH THAT.
LOCATED ON 184 ACRES, WE WANT SPACE BETWEEN SITES 80 FEET OF SPACE, AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO ALLOW FOR THIS.
WE'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU HOW AND WHERE WE HAVE PLACED THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CUP.
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ARE ADDRESSED ON PAGE ONE.UNDER GENERAL PARK RULES NUMBER ONE, QUIET HOURS ARE 11 TO SEVEN.
THIS IS STRONGER THAN COUNTY REQUIREMENTS WHERE QUIET HOURS DON'T START UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
RULES AND REGULATIONS, PAGE THREE, NUMBER THREE, STATES NO VACANT RVS MAY BE KEPT ON INDIVIDUAL SITES.
WE HAVE A SECTION OF OUR PROPERTY DESIGNATED FOR RV STORAGE.
WE MAKE IT, WE MAKE IT CLEAR TO OUR GUESTS THAT THEY CAN LEAVE THEIR RVS SET UP FOR WEEKEND USE ONLY RULES AND REGS.
PAGE THREE, UNDER RVS AND VEHICLES.
NUMBER FIVE STATES RVS FOR WEEKEND USE ONLY SHOULD NOT BE KEPT CONTINUOUSLY ON INDIVIDUAL SITES.
AGAIN, THEY'RE WELCOME TO UTILIZE THE RV STORAGE AREA.
WE HAVE DONE MOUNDS OF RESEARCH TO GET TO THIS POINT AND KNOW THAT LONGER STAYS ARE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ARE IDEAL FOR OUR PARK.
OUR TARGET MARKET HAS A HOUSEHOLD INCOME BETWEEN 100 AND 250,000.
LOCATING A VACANT CAMPSITE IS NO EASY TASK.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 1.6 MILLION RV CAMPSITES IN THE UNITED STATES AND A RECORD 11.2 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS OWN RVS.
ACCORDING TO 2021, DATA FROM THE RV INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, ABOUT 400,000 OF THOSE RV OWNERS ARE CONSIDERED FULL-TIME RVS.
OUR IDEAL GUEST ARE THE CONSTRUCTION WORKER AT FORT LEE OR ONE OF THE NEW DISTRIBUTION CENTERS COMING TO THE AREA.
A NURSE SERVING A CONTRACT FOR THREE OR SIX MONTHS AT SOUTHSIDE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER, ST.
MARY'S HOSPITAL, CHIPPENHAM OR JOHNSTON WILLIS, AN IT CONTRACTOR THAT WORKS FROM HOME RETIREES WHO LOVE THE FOUR SEASONS THAT VIRGINIA HAS TO OFFER.
A SOLDIER STATIONED AT FORT LEE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, A HOMESCHOOL FAMILY WHO WANTS TO EXPLORE GREATER CENTRAL VIRGINIA, THE HISTORY AND ALL THAT.
IT HAS TO OFFER AN ENGINEER WORKING FROM HOME WHO STOPS HIM WITH HIS FAMILY TO EXPLORE THE LOCAL SITES.
OUR PARK WILL BE STATE OF THE ART AND WILL OFFER HIGH SPEED BROADBAND INTERNET, SOMETHING THAT DENWITTY DOESN'T CURRENTLY OFFER IN THIS AREA.
THIS INTERNET WILL BE A HUGE SERVICE TO THOSE WORKING FROM HOME AT OUR PARK OR JUST STREAMING A STREAMING A GREAT MOVIE ON A RAINY DAY.
OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE RVS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION, ARE NEAT AND CLEAN, THAT WE HAVE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE WON'T TOLERATE FOLKS THAT WON'T ABIDE BY THE RULES.
AND THE RV MUST CONTINUE TO LOOK GOOD THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THEIR STAY.
THE WAY WE ENSURE THIS WILL HAPPEN IS THROUGH OUR WRITTEN RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE PART OF THE CUP.
THIS WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR RV PARK AND A MOBILE HOME PARK.
UNDER RVS AND VEHICLES, NUMBER ONE, RVS HAVE TO BE WELL-MAINTAINED AND CLEAN FREE OF MOLD AND MILDEW, NO WINDOW AC UNITS.
NUMBER ONE C ONSITE REPAIRS WHILE NOT PROHIBITED, ARE DISCOURAGED AS RVS AND VEHICLES SHALL BE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTAIN, REMAIN OPERATIONAL UNDER SITES.
NUMBER TWO, AS ALL SITES PROVIDED ARE RELATIVELY FLAT, RVS SHALL BE AT GROUND LEVEL, NO CINDER BLOCKS ALLOWED.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RULES ABOUT HOW EACH SITE WILL LOOK AND WHAT WE WILL ALLOW AND WON'T ALLOW TO HAPPEN ON OUR PARK, SUCH AS PAGE ONE OF OUR RULES AND REGS UNDER GENERAL PARK RULES.
NUMBER THREE, STATES, NO MAIL OR PACKAGES SHALL BE DELIVERED TO THE PARK FOR GUESTS OR VISITORS.
PAGE TWO, UNDER SITES NUMBER ONE C CLOTHESLINES ARE PROHIBITED.
DON'T HANG YOUR LAUNDRY, CLOTHING, ET CETERA OUTSIDE OF THE RV.
PAGE THREE, UNDER RVS AND VEHICLES.
PARKING GUESTS ARE LIMITED TO TWO VEHICLES AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
ALL VEHICLES SHALL FIT ON THE SITES GRAVEL PAD, PARKING ON THE GRASS, ROADWAYS, OR OTHER SITES IS PROHIBITED.
IF ADDITIONAL PARKING IS DESIRED, PLEASE MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE PARK.
AND THESE VEHICLES MUST ALSO BE IN GOOD OPERATIONAL CONDITION.
WE HOPE YOU'RE SEEING A THEME AND GETTING A VISION FOR WHAT OUR RV PARK WILL LOOK LIKE, CLEAN AND NEAT.
AND SOMEWHERE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO VISIT.
AND DEFINITELY SOMEWHERE WE WILL WANT TO LIVE BECAUSE THIS WILL BE OUR HOME RULES AND REGS.
UNDER SITES NUMBER TWO SAYS, PERMANENT STRUCTURES SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUCTED ON INDIVIDUAL SITES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DECKS, PORCHES, SHEDS, ET CETERA.
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LIFESTYLE.THOSE THAT FEEL THE NEED TO BRING EVERYTHING WITH THEM, WE LOVE TO SHOP AND OUTGROW.
THEIR SITE WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT OUR RV PARK TO LOOK LIKE.
WHETHER YOU'RE THERE FOR A NIGHT, A WEEKEND, 30 NIGHTS OR SIX MONTHS, OUR MAXIMUM LENGTH OF STAY IS EIGHT MONTHS.
AT THE FRONT OF THE PARK, WE WILL HAVE AN OFFICE, AN ACTIVITIES PAVILION THAT WILL HOUSE A LAUNDRY FACILITY AND DOG WASHING STATION.
THERE WILL BE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE SITES THAT ARE LARGER THAN OTHERS, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT A FEDERAL OR STATE REQUIREMENT AT THIS TIME.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'LL HAVE ONSITE RV STORAGE FOR VACANT RVS, BOATS AND TRAILERS.
WE'LL HAVE A SECURITY GATE WITH GUESTS AND VISITORS MUST GO THROUGH.
AND WE'LL BE GOING AROUND TO EACH SITE DAILY FOR TRASH PICKUP.
AND DOING THIS WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP AN EYE ON EACH AND EVERY SITE IN THE PARK.
WE ARE VERY CONVENIENTLY LOCATED NEAR COMPANY ONE, THE FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY, ALONG WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS INTO OUR PARK 24 7.
ALSO, HAVING HAD MY NEPHEW WORKING FOR THE RICHMOND CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OFFICERS TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO DO THEIR REPORTS.
THEY ARE ALWAYS WELCOME AT OUR PARKS PAVILION RULES AND REGS.
PAGE ONE, UNDER GENERAL PARK RULES NUMBER FIVE STATES THAT VISITORS ARE LIMITED TO TWO PER SITE, AND B STATES THAT VISITORS SHALL BE REGISTERED WITH THE PARK, MEANING BOTH THE STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RECORD KEEPING.
OWNER OF CAMPGROUND VIEWS, MARK KEPP SAID WE COULD QUOTE HIM ABOUT OUR DESIGN AND CONCEPT.
THERE ARE NO OTHER PARKS LIKE THIS IN THE US.
THE EAST COAST IS THE PERFECT LOCATION.
THIS WILL BE ABOVE PREMIUM TO ALL CAMPGROUNDS IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND THIS PARK WILL FILL A HUGE NEED.
AGAIN REGARDING OUR LOCATION, AUTO INSURANCE.ORG INSURES FULL-TIME RVS.
THEY STATE THAT OF THE TOP 10 STATES FOR LIVING IN AN RV FULL-TIME.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT AND DRIVING TO WELL OVER 50 PROPERTIES THAT WERE 100 PLUS ACRE SITES ALL OVER THE GREATER CENTRAL VIRGINIA REGION.
NOTHING WAS BETTER SUITED FOR THIS RV PARK THAN THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
IT WAS AN EASY DECISION FOR US BECAUSE DEM WITTY MUNICIPAL CODES WERE EASILY ATTAINABLE FOR WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WE WERE LOCATED IN THE DENWITTY PLANNING GROWTH AREA, WHICH MEANS WE'RE AN EXACT FIT FOR WHAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR.
A FEW WEEKS AGO, ON FEBRUARY THE FOURTH, I TOOK THIS PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RISES ABOVE NASH ROAD AND HOW FULL THE TREES ARE FOR PRIVACY.
EVEN IN THE DEAD OF WINTER, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE RVS FROM THE STREET.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CAMPERS.
THANKS TO THE RULES AND REGS WE HAVE IN PLACE, YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW WE'RE THERE.
WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF PRAYER AND A LOT OF TIME INTO DEVELOPING WHAT WE THINK WILL BE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
A PLACE WE'LL WANT TO CALL HOME.
AND A FANTASTIC ADDITION TO DI WITTY COUNTY.
WE PLACE THIS, THIS DECISION IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS OUR DESIRED OUTCOME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BECOMING A BIG PART OF DI WITTY COUNTY AND AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? AND I GUESS I'LL ASK MY QUESTION.
UH, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT MAYBE WE ARE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE, WE, WE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A SEASON AND THAT TENDS TO BE THE STANDARD FOR THIS REGION OF THE COUNTRY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FROM KENTUCKY, OVER EIGHT MONTHS TENDS TO BE THE SEASON AND MOST CAMPERS DON'T WANNA STAY LONGER THAN THAT.
AND SO AT THAT POINT THEN THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
I DON'T HAVE A SET TIME THEY WOULD BE OUT FOR, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, IF THEY LEAVE FOR A DAY, I GUESS THEY COULD COME BACK.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE THE AVAILABILITY.
I'M PRETTY SURE WE'LL BE FILLED.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THEY STAY MOBILE AT ALL TIMES.
SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW A MOBILE HOME PARK HAS THE TONGUE REMOVED, THE TIRES ARE REMOVED AND ALL THAT STUFF.
THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO STAY MOBILE.
WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY LIVING THERE FULL TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR SEWER SYSTEM AS FAR AS, IS IT GONNA BE CENTRAL OR IS IT GONNA BE INDIVIDUAL OR
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HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK? YES SIR.IT'S, UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, DR.
MONET, UM, GREG MONET, WHO IS, UH, GONNA DESIGN, HELP DESIGN IT.
UH, WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY YET.
IT'S STILL OWNED BY THE PHIPPS.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE THREE MONTHS AFTER TONIGHT TO DO OUR WORK ON IT TO MAKE SURE IT PERKS AND TO, UH, BUT IT'LL BE A CENTRAL LOCATION.
IT'LL BE ONE THAT HANDLES ALL OF IT.
ALL, ALL OF THEM IN ONE, ONE SPOT.
WE HAVE TWO PLANS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
ONE WOULD BE THE, UH, WHERE THE SOLIDS WOULD GO INTO A TANK, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE, THE, THE EFFLUENCE WOULD BE TREATED AND THEN IT WOULD BE, UH, PUT OUT.
IT'S THE DEQ AND IT WOULD BE SPRINKLED AT NIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE, I MEAN, IT'D BE POTABLE AT THAT POINT, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE.
AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE TO HAVE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL DRAIN FIELD, LIKE 10 ACRES, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT.
SO ON, ON THE, ON THE, UH, WE'RE WE'RE ONLY USING ABOUT 80 ACRES, UH, FOR THE CAMPGROUND ITSELF.
WE, WE DON'T EVEN START THE BUILDINGS AND STUFF.
WELL NOW THE STORAGE AREA WILL START 196 FEET OFF OF NASH ROAD.
THAT'S JUST THE STORAGE AREA BEYOND THAT IS ANOTHER 400 FEET BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO THE ENTRANCE FOR THE GATE.
SO WE'RE, UM, WHAT'S THAT, ALMOST 600 FEET OFF OF NASH ROAD BEFORE YOU, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PAVEMENT FOR THE RVS TO GET UP THERE.
UH, AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A LICENSE PLATE READER.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE OF COURSE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE POLICE FIRE EMS BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULD JUST KEY THEIR MIC AND THEY COULD COME IN.
UM, BUT THAT GIVES THEM FULL ACCESS ANYTIME.
AND WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT AT THE, UH, LAND USE, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT, LAND DEVELOPMENT MEETING AND ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE CAMPERS.
UM, DO YOU KNOW, AND THIS MIGHT BE A COUNTY QUESTION, WOULD THE RVS BE TAXED IN THE COUNTY? UH, DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY'RE HERE.
I THINK YOU'RE YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON WHERE THEY'RE REGISTERED.
SO OURS WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LIVE HERE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS BE MORE LIKE YOU WOULD BE TAXING AS A HOSPITALITY SITE, LIKE A MOTEL.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU GET, IS THAT HOW IT'S TAXED? YEAH.
SO YOU'RE TAX, YOU'RE TAXED LIKE A HOTEL.
BUT AS FAR AS THE RVS THEMSELF, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE COLLECTED IN THE COUNTY? NO.
EVEN IF IT WAS HOUSED IN THE COUNTY IN JANUARY ONE, NO.
'CAUSE THEY'S TEMPORARY, NOT CONSIDERED, NOT CONSIDERED HOUSED.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE ANY CHANCE OF, OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT'LL BE END, WE PROMISED WE PAY LOTS OF TAXES.
HUH? WE PROMISE WE'LL PAY LOTS OF TAXES.
AND THEIRS WOULD ALSO, PROB COULD POSSIBLY, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I GUESS THIS LAND IS PROBABLY IN LAND USE RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO COME OUTTA LAND USE.
AND SO THERE'LL BE A BACK PAYMENT OF SOME TAXES ON THAT ALSO, I GUESS.
AND WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE INITIAL INVESTMENT TO ADDITIONAL OF, OF THE PRICE OF PROPERTY? DO YOU GOT ANY IDEA? UH, FOUR, $4 MILLION.
I, I HOPE NOT TO SPEND THAT MUCH.
BUT THE BROADBAND ALONE IS GONNA BE, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT IN OUR, OUR, WE'RE GONNA HIRE THE COMPANY WHO PUTS IT IN FOR THE MILITARY AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, THEY'RE CALLED ACCESS PARKS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA PUT FIBER IN OUR PARK TO EACH PEDESTAL.
AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BACK HAUL IT, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET IT FROM OUR CAMPGROUND BACK TO A BROADBAND CONNECTION.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE MICRO WOOD BURST TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
AND THEN THE, THE SEPTIC AND THE WATER, I MEAN, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE A GEOLOGIST TO COME OUT AND WE'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HIS COST.
AND, UH, ROYAL PLUMBING'S GONNA COME OUT AND DO THE, THE, OUR, I THINK IT WAS, WELL ANYWAY, THE, THE WELL AND WE'LL PROBABLY END UP WITH TWO WELLS IS WHAT WE'RE FIGURING, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE AT THIS POINT JUST 'CAUSE OF THE FLOW.
AND THE PROPERTY WON'T REALLY BE FENCED, BUT IT WILL BE A GATE AT, IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? YES, SIR.
WE'LL HAVE A, A WIDE ENTRANCE WITH THE GATE THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READER WILL CATCH.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO RECORD EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN AND GOES OUT FOR RECORD KEEPING.
THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE AND COUNTY.
AS FAR AS I PROBABLY WAS IN HERE, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.
AS FAR AS PETS GO, WILL THEY BE ON LEASH AT ALL TIMES? YES, SIR.
LEASH AT ALL? WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT YES SIR.
65% OF ALL CAMPERS USE ANIMALS, KEEP ANIMALS AND, UH, THAT ALL THE DOGS WOULD'VE TO BE HAND LEASHED AT ALL TIMES.
WE WILL HAVE A DOG RUN AREA THAT'S PLANNED TO BE OVER AN ACRE AND WE'LL HAVE A SMALL DOG RUN AREA IN A LARGE DOG RUN AREA, AND THAT'LL BE COMPLETELY FENCED.
AND THEN WE, UH, WE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATED PUTTING A FENCE AROUND THE, THE COMPLETE PERIMETER.
JUST TO KEEP OUR CAMPERS FROM WANDERING.
BUT THE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED THE PROPERTY, IT'S EXTREMELY DENSE AND IT'D BE MISERABLE TO TRY TO WALK OFF THE AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CLEARED.
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WE'RE ONLY GONNA CLEAR THE AREAS THAT ARE FOR THE STREETS, WHICH ARE GONNA BE 24 FEET WIDE, UH, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE FIRE AND POLICE AND RESCUE.AND THEN THE, UH, ACTUAL GRAVEL SPOTS FOR EACH SITE WILL BE CLEARED.
BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT AS WOODED AS POSSIBLE.
FAR AS I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE THING IS THAT FAR AS SNOW REMOVAL, YOU WILL HAVE EQUIPMENT TO TAKE CARE OF.
UNFORTUNATELY, MY JOB IS GONNA BE TO CLEAR ROADS AND CAMPSITES AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE DRAG SCREENING FOR KEEPING THE POTHOLES DOWN.
AND, AND WE'LL, YES SIR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUITE A BIT OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO USE AND THAT'LL ALL BE TAXED.
UH, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU PROPOSE TO HAVE? WELL, I'M HOPING TO GET ABOUT WITH EIGHT, BUT I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT WITH THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.
UM, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TURN, WE'RE HOPING, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP GOOD PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UM, THE WEAK ENDERS ARE NOT WHO WE'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THEY TEND TO BE, UM, PART PARTIER.
I, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL 'EM.
AND MY WIFE AND I ARE NOT, WE'RE, UH, VERY CONSERVATIVE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE VERY CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE STAY WITH US.
BUT YES, MY JOB WILL BE EVERYTHING FROM NASH ROAD UP.
WE'LL HAVE TO BE CLEARED FROM SNOW REMOVAL.
BUT IF SOMEONE DOES COME TO YOUR PARK TO, TO GET A SPOT OR WHATEVER, TO, UH, AS LONG AS THEIR EQUIPMENT IS FUNCTIONING IN GOOD SHAPE, YOU'LL YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE TO RENT IT TO 'EM, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
THERE IS NO, NO DISCRE, NO, NO, UH, DISCRIMINATION AT ALL.
THEY CAN STAY A WEEKEND IF THEY WANT TO, BUT IF THEY GET ROWDY, WE'RE GONNA PULL THEIR, UH, THEIR, THEIR LICENSE.
'CAUSE EACH PERSON WILL BE GIVEN A LICENSE TO STAY.
LIKE IF YOU GO TO A BALL GAME, UH, WHEN YOU GET YOUR TICKET, IF YOU FLICK IT OVER, LOOK IN THE BACKWOOD, THAT'S A LICENSE.
SO IF YOU'RE TOO ROWDY, YOU KNOW, SECURITY COMES AND MOVES OUT PEOPLE SOMETIMES.
SO THEY REVOKE THE LICENSE AND THAT'S THE SAME THING THEY'RE GONNA GIVE WHEN IT COMES STAY WITH US.
SO THERE WILL BE NO TENANTS, NO LANDLORDS, THEY'LL ALL BE LICENSES.
UM, IS THAT THE WALKING TRAIL OR IS THERE MORE TO RECREATION THAN JUST THE WALKING TRAIL? WE, UH, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE A PLAYGROUND GOING, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING A LOT OF KIDS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, BUT WE HAVE THIS THING THAT'S CALLED GIANT ASKED.
IT'S A OUTDOOR EXERCISE EQUIPMENT COMPANY.
WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING THEM EITHER ALONG THE WALKING TRAIL OR NEAR THE CENTRAL PARK, WHICH IS YOU, YOU SAW TWO STREETS GOING UP LIKE THIS AND TWO STREETS LIKE THIS.
AND THERE WAS A BIG SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT BIG SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE IS GONNA BE THE ACTIVITIES AREA.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, THE DOG RUN AREA IN THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE GIANT ASS EQUIPMENT IN THERE.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE FIRE PITS, COMMUNITY FIRE PITS, COMMUNITY FIRE PITS, AS WELL AS, UM, MY, MY GOAL, BECAUSE WE'RE IN DENWOOD COUNTY, YOU GOT SOME LOW LEVEL LIGHTING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, STARGAZING, UH, TELESCOPE EQUIPMENT IN THERE FOR THAT TO START WITH.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE, FROM THE, AND OF COURSE THE PAVILION WILL BE LOADED UP WITH THE, UH, BEANBAG, UM, CORN.
AND, AND MY LAST QUESTION, UM, I GET, AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR HOGGE, UH, CUSTOMER.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION, AND MAYBE YOU CAN EDUCATE ME ON THIS, I REALLY DON'T SEE A DESTINATION HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT, A LOT OF THE OTHER CAMPGROUNDS THAT, AND THEN WOODY, UM, TWO ON LAKE CHES.
ONE HAS A, A LAKE THERE BESIDE IT.
UM, NOT SURE ON THE FOURTH ONE, BUT, SO IF, IF THERE'S NOT REALLY A DESTINATION, THEN YOUR TARGET IS GOING TO BE THE WORKER OR SOME TYPE OF TRANSIENT, UM, CRY.
MAYBE ADDRESS THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
WE DO HAVE THE, UH, THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY COVERED WITH THE, UH, STONY CREEK.
AND SO THAT'LL BE THE WATER FEATURE.
WE'RE GONNA PUT, UM, A LITTLE, UM, SEATING AREA DOWN THERE AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU WALK DOWN, IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN THE HILL.
SO THE CAMPGROUND'S LOCATED ON A PLATFORM, UH, OR A TABLETOP.
AND THEN YOU SLOPE DOWN TO THE STONY CREEK.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN AREA DOWN THERE TO FISH.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FISH, BUT I ASSUME YOU FISH IN STONY CREEK.
BUT, UH, AN AREA FOR THEM TO SIT AND JUST WATCH THE WATER GO BY AND, AND THAT, UM, AND THE DESTINATION THAT WE'RE COUNTING ON IS WHAT WE GREW UP UNDER, WHICH WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WILLIAMSBURG, DC UH, RICHMOND, THE BATTLEFIELDS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TO THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY.
IF WE DO GET KIDS, UH, WE ANTICIPATE IT BEING FOURTH GRADE 'CAUSE THAT'S THE GRADE THAT THE, UH, KIDS ARE ALL RUNNING THROUGH THE, UM, HISTORY OF AMERICA.
AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THEY WOULD COME HERE AND GO TO JAMESTOWN FOR TODAY, COME BACK, GO TO WILLIAMSBURG FOR TODAY, COME BACK, UM, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
OR MAYBE EVEN GO DOWN TO THE BEACH FOR TODAY.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF DRIVE PETERSBURG HISTORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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A LOT ALL AROUND US HERE.BUT AS FAR AS IT BEING, WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A POOL.
UM, AT LEAST NOT THE BEGINNING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MAY END UP WITH THAT.
WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT OUR, UH, WITH CAMPERS ENJOY ROOM, PLENTY OF ROOM TO EXPAND.
AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT, SIX OR TWO, WHATEVER.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S RIDICULOUS HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE.
WE GOT 80 ACRES FOR, FOR THIS, THAT WE'RE USING 80 OR A HUNDRED ACRES FINE.
JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO, WHO TRAVEL NOW I KNOW, UM, DOGS, CATS.
NOW SUPPOSE SOMEONE COMES AND THEY HAVE A THERAPY ANIMAL OTHER THAN A DOG AND CAT, ARE YOU, ARE THEY GONNA BE ALLOWED? I WOULD SAY IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF, UM, DOCUMENTATION THEY HAVE FOR ONE THING.
UM, BUT ARE IN OUR RULES AND REGS, IT SAYS HOUSEHOLD PETS.
SO IF IT'S AN ALLIGATOR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE AND NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE WELCOME.
WELL, YEAH, I WAS KIND OF THINKING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THAT'S THEIR HOME OR WHATEVER, UM, THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A DOG OR A CAT AS A THERAPY ANIMAL.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LARGE ONE, I GUESS, BUT SOMETHING UNUSUAL.
SO WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT
IT'S NOT OUT, IT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.
UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WITH, UM, THINGS NOWADAYS, I MEAN, THEY, THEY DO HAVE THINGS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE TRADITIONAL HOUSEHOLD PETS.
SO I JUST, I JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RV TRAVELING, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOME ANIMALS, SO
SO I, I WAS JUST THINKING BECAUSE PEOPLE DO, THEY DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ONES, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, AND THEY SAY, UH, MY THERAPY AN ANIMAL, PTSD AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU AS, AS REAL ESTATE AGENTS.
THE, THE, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN IS IT A THERAPY OR IS IT A COMPANION? YEAH, THERE'S, IS THAT THE RIGHT, YEAH.
YOU GOTTA HAVE, THERE'S TWO LEVELS AND OF COURSE THE SECOND LEVEL WE CAN'T DENY NO MATTER WHAT.
THEY, THEY COULD HAVE THEIR, UH, MEDICAL PAPERWORK WITH THEM.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THEY BRING IT OUT.
SO IT'S, IT, IT'S IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE THOSE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN THE COUNTY WOULD WANT TO TRY TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE.
SO, AND THEN YOU MAY NOT SEE IT.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, FROM STATE TO STATE SECURITY, I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SECURITY.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LICENSE PLATES OR THEY CAN RUN THOSE, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST, UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO HAVE CHILDREN AND, UM, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, SECURITY, MAKING SURE THAT THE, YOUR OTHER, UM, UH, RV R RV PEOPLE ARE, ARE SAFE.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S KIND OF GOING FROM STATE TO STATE OR WHATEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND, AND YOU DO SCAN, YOU SAID THE LICENSE PLATE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO, AND, AND WE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, UH, FROM OTHER CAMPGROUND OWNERS THAT AT OUR PRICE POINT, THOSE WON'T BE THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY VISIT OUR SITES.
BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PRICEY FOR WE'RE THE BIGGEST AND THE BEST.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BRING, UH, A PREMIUM FOR OUR CAMPGROUND.
WE HAVE 80 FEET BETWEEN EACH SITE.
MOST, MOST PEOPLE YOU CAN REACH OUT AND HAND A SALT SHAKER THROUGH YOUR WINDOW, THROUGH YOUR OTHER CAMPER.
YOU KNOW, THESE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT DOWN THE STREET AND COME OVER TO YOUR CAMPER.
'CAUSE OF THE TREES WE'RE LEAVING.
AND, AND THE LAST QUESTION, UM, YOU DO HAVE SOMEONE THERE FOR EIGHT MONTHS.
THE CHILD LIKES GOING TO SCHOOL, LOVES IT, AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE AGAIN.
AND I KNOW YOU SAID EIGHT MONTHS IS A CUT OFF, UM, AND THEY WANNA STAY A LITTLE LONGER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UM, SOMEBODY'S GOING OVERSEAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND CHILD WANTS TO STAY, UM, AND FINISH UP THAT PARTICULAR SEMESTER.
SO, UM, IS IT SOMETHING THERE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT OR YOU'RE GONNA JUST TELL 'EM, WELL, I'M SORRY IT'S EIGHT MONTHS, IT'S CUT OFF AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE.
THEY HAVE TO GET OUT THAT SITE.
BUT I SUPPOSE IF IT WAS A SITUATION LIKE THAT, OR IF IT WAS A HUSBAND OR WIFE, MILITARY MM-HMM
UM, THEY COULD MOVE TO ANOTHER SITE.
OUR BIGGEST THING IS, PLEASE, LET'S KEEP THEIR RV MOBILE.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY, UH, IT BECOMES PERMANENT.
SO BY KEEPING IT MOBILE, WE KNOW THAT IF SOMETHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, HEAVEN FORBID WE GET A FIRE MM-HMM.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT IN CALIFORNIA, BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN, I WANNA KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN YANK AND GO MM-HMM
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, UH, REASONS FOR HAVING THE MOBILITY, THE EIGHT MONTH CUT CUTOFF.
AND ALSO REGARDING THE SCHOOLS.
UM, FROM OUR RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, MOST OF THE STUDENTS, MOST CHILDREN SCHOOL AGE ARE BEING TAUGHT BY THEIR, THEY'RE BEING HOMESCHOOLED.
SO THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF GOING TO A BATTLEFIELD FOR THE DAY AND GETTING THAT TYPE OF HISTORY GOING
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TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMESTOWN OR DC AND THAT TYPE OF HISTORY VERSUS JUST WORK LEARNING IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.WANNA ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, IT COULD BE, SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE MORE, ONE MORE QUESTION I THOUGHT OF.
WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSED RENTAL INCOME PER DAY, PER WEEK AND PER MONTH? IS THAT HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT? YES, SIR.
WE, WE'VE DONE A TON OF STUDY ON THAT, AND THE MINIMUM WOULD BE SIX 50 A MONTH.
AND THEY WOULD PAY THEIR OWN ELECTRIC AND PROBABLY WATER.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT SIX 50 A MONTH.
UM, UM, GO, I'M GONNA, MY QUESTION'S PERTAINING TO THE BUSINESS MODEL.
SO IF I COME FOR A WEEK, THERE'S A WEEKLY RENTAL WHERE YOU SAID SIX 50 FOR THE MONTH? YES, SIR.
IT'LL BE A LITTLE HIGHER, UH, ON A DAILY BASIS.
BUT IT'LL BE MUCH LESS THAN THE SIX 50.
SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LA CARTE TYPE SCENARIO.
IF I WANT INTERNET, I WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT.
OR IF I, IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE RENTAL? YES, SIR.
AND YOUR ELECTRIC AND WATER, UH, FOR LESS THAN A MONTH WOULD BE INCLUDED, WOULD BE FOR LESS THAN A MONTH? YES, SIR.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOME STUDENTS THAT LIVE IN RV PARKS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS HOMELESS.
SO YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT.
AND THEY ARE IN OUR DENVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
UM, OUR TARGET, THEY'RE IN MY DISTRICT,
UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A FAMILY TO, TO LIVE THERE AND STILL BE ABLE TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO DIMITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
UM, SO BUT SIX 50 A MONTH, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I, I WILL COMMEND YOU.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS, IS UNIQUE.
AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE UNIQUE TO DENWITY COUNTY.
UM, THE PICTURE THAT WE HAVE UP THERE THAT I SEE IN THE FOREGROUND IS A LAKE.
AND THOSE OF US THAT LIVE HERE AND KNOW THE EBB AND FLOW OF STONY CREEK
WE CAN, WE CAN WALK ACROSS IT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE THERE.
BUT I DO COMMEND YOU THAT THE OTHER I SEE HERE, YOU, YOU MENTIONED GRAVEL COMING IN.
THE BIG PICTURE HAD GRAVEL COMING INTO THE PROPERTY OFF OF NASH ROAD.
YOU SAID THAT IT WOULD BE ASPHALT COMING IN.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT SO WE DON'T, THE RVS DON'T SPIN OUT.
I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ON A SECOND ENTRANCE, UH, OF SOME KIND.
WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE 300 SITES, UM, GOD FORBID SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.
AND IN PARTICULAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF FORESTRY THAT YOU WILL STILL HAVE IN PLACE, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN THERE.
AND THEN YOU REALLY GOT AN ISSUE OF GETTING TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION OF SOME, WHETHER IT, OF A SECOND ENTRANCE.
UH, WE, WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE, UH, LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE SECOND ENTRANCE, UH, IT STARTS TO MESS WITH OUR SECURITY AND WE'RE VERY TIGHT ON THE SECURITY.
AND THEN WE CAN'T HAVE ANY CAMPSITE DIRECTLY ACCESSING.
UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, IT'D HAVE TO CURVE OVER AND KIND OF CONNECT BACK.
SO IT, IT JUST WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'D BE VERY CHALLENGING TO DO AND KEEP THE SECURITY.
'CAUSE EVERY TIME YOU CUT ANOTHER ROAD IN, YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SECURE IT.
BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE USED, IT WOULD BE CHAINED.
BUT YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO BE UNIQUE IN THE RESPECT THAT WHEN WE ASK OTHER PEOPLE TO HAVE OTHER ENTRANCES, I DON'T WANT THIS ONE TO BE SINGLED OUT AS IT ONLY HAS ONE ENTRANCE GOTCHA.
WHEN WE REQUIRE THAT FOR OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT IN DENWOOD COUNTY.
SO JUST, AND OUR ROADS ARE, ARE, UM, WIDE ENOUGH, LIKE A LOT OF IT'S PARK, SO THEY'RE ONLY SINGLE WIDE.
AND OURS ARE GONNA BE DOUBLE THE, THE ROADS ARE GONNA BE WIDTH FOR TWO.
SO YOU COULD HAVE TWO COMING OUT AT A TIME.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP AS WELL.
'CAUSE WE GOTTA HAVE THE TURNING RADIUS AND EVERYTHING.
MR. MASSON, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.
JUST TO WANNA CLARIFY THE TAX QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED.
SO MR. MOODY, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE, THE ROLLBACK TAX.
I JUST WANTED THE RULE ON THAT IS THE CURRENT YEAR, SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED, AND ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THIS LAND IS IN LAND USE, THERE WOULD BE A CURRENT YEAR PLUS FIVE YEARS OF ROLLBACK TAXES OWED ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARITY.
AND, AND THE SECOND COMMENT ABOUT THE TAXES AND, AND TREATED LIKE A HOTEL.
SO WE HAVE AN 8% TRANSIENT OCCUPANT OCCUPANCY TAX IN DENWOOD COUNTY.
SO THAT WOULD BE ON A DAILY BASIS UP TO 30 DAYS.
AT THE END OF THE 30 DAY PERIOD, IT'S CONSIDERED AN EXTENDED STAY.
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AFTER THE 30 DAY PERIOD.SO THAT THE TAXES, AGAIN, YOU ARE TREATED LIKE A HOTEL LODGING.
YOU WOULD GET THAT FOR THE FIRST, FIRST 30 DAYS.
SO YOU'RE MARKETING YOURSELF AS AN EXTENDED STAY UP TO SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS POTENTIALLY.
SO, BUT THAT SHORT TERM STAY YOU'RE AT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY TREATED JUST LIKE A, A HOTEL.
JUST LIKE THE OTHER CAMPGROUNDS IN THE COUNTY.
IF YOU'RE THERE UNDER A MONTH, UNDER 30 DAYS, YOU PAY TAXES ON THE TRANSIENT
AND THEN DR. MOORE TO THE DESIGN STANDARD IN REGARDS TO THE ACCESS OF EGRESS AND INGRESS INTO THE PROPERTY WITH ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
A POTENTIAL COULD BE TO HAVE A MORE OF A BOULEVARD STANDARD ENTRANCE.
WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TWO LANES IN AND TWO LANES OUT.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE VERY IN FAVOR OF THAT.
WE'LL HAVE TO PAVE, BUT I WOULD RATHER DO THAT 'CAUSE I CAN SECURE THAT.
WITH THE GATE, WHEN A, IN A TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE, NOT A BOULEVARD STANDARD, IS IT, IS THAT REALLY ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT? BUT IF YOU DO CREATE THE TWO IN THE BEGINNING, AT LEAST FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN HELP YOU CERTAIN DISTANCE, GIVE YOU THAT, THAT OKAY.
THAT EXTRA PUBLIC SAFETY NEED.
AND WE CAN GET ALL FOUR LANES COMING OUT IF WE NEEDED TO, IF IT WAS THAT KIND OF AN EMERGENCY, I ASSUME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OF THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
IF WE NEED TO ASK YOU SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO, UM, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC, UM, COMMENT PERIOD.
SO IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THE CASE? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE MR. CHARLES CHAMBERS.
MR. CHA, BOARD MEMBERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I LIVE ON NASH ROAD ACROSS FROM THE PROPO PROPOSED 300 SPACE RV CAMPGROUND.
MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT IS TO VOICE MY CONCERNS AND MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THE, SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS AND SOME OF THE AJO LANDOWNERS HERE TONIGHT.
AND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE.
MY CONCERNS INCLUDE RV, DIESEL, NOISE, THE NARROW TWO LANE NASH ROAD, NOT BUILT TO HANDLE THAT MUCH.
SOME OF THESE RVS ARE LARGER THAN A GREYHOUND BUS, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE MEETING ONE OF THEM ON A COLD MORNING.
THESE VEHICLES WILL BE USED ONE EXIT AND ENTRANCE ROAD, WHICH WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MY DRIVEWAY.
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXIT ENTERING THIS ACCESS ROAD.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE LAND VALUES OF EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT MAY DROP DUE TO THIS PARK AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE FISH AND WILDLIFE AND STONEY CREEK.
THE IMPACT ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE RESCUE SQUAD.
WE'RE TALKING 300 RVS, PROBABLY 600 PEOPLE.
IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, YOU GOT EVEN MORE PEOPLE THAN FIND IN THAT AREA.
SINCE THIS AREA IS ZONED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL USES, HOW DOES A 300 SPACE RV PARK MEET EITHER OF THESE CRITERIA? SOUNDS LIKE BUSINESS OR COMMERCIAL TO ME.
MY FEELINGS AT THIS POINT AT IS THAT ALLOWING
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THIS RV PARK TO COME INTO THIS LOCATION, THIS CLOSE TO THE COURTHOUSE AREA AND ESTABLISHED HOMES IS A BIG MISTAKE.THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.
I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE?
IF YOU WILL, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 7 6 0 8 NASH ROAD.
MY LAND IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING THIS CAMPGROUND ON.
UM, MY CONCERN IS I LIVE ON THAT PROPERTY WITH FOUR OF MY CHILDREN.
MY LATE HUSBAND PASSED AWAY THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
SO, UM, MY CONCERN IS OUR SAFETY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 600 PLUS PEOPLE IN THAT IN OUR AREA THAT CAN ROAM OVER TO OUR PROPERTY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
MY KIDS ARE AT HOME BY THEMSELVES IN THE AFTERNOONS.
I MOVED HERE FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY TO HAVE SPACE PEACE, QUIET NOT TO HAVE 600 PEOPLE NEXT DOOR.
IF I WANTED THAT, I WOULD'VE STAYED IN CHESTERFIELD.
UM, I KNOW WHERE I LIVE IS RIGHT UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MOVED HERE, BUT NOT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THAT GENERAL AREA.
UM, WE ENJOY WHERE WE ARE, BUT I CAN'T STAY THERE WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE AND TO RUN PEOPLE OUT THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST EIGHT YEARS, IS I, I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S HELPING DEN COUNTY AT ALL.
UM, MY CONCERN WITH THE NOISE FROM THAT AREA AND ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY COVERED THAT I DIDN'T HEAR, BUT ARE THEY GONNA BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ATVS OR GOLF CARTS? BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA ADD TO THE NOISE.
THEY HAVE QUIET TIME AFTER 11 AND AT SEVEN.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT DURING THE DAY? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE OUTSIDE IN THE EVENING AND LISTEN TO THAT.
UM, AGAIN, FOR, WITH THE ROAD THAT IS, UH, NASH ROAD, IT IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR RVS.
WE OWNED AN RV AND WE HAD TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY AND ONTO NASH ROAD.
AND THAT DROP OFF WHERE TERRY'S LAND IS, WHERE HIS LAKE IS, IS TOO CLOSE.
AND WE ALMOST SLIPPED OFF AT CERTAIN POINTS.
UM, IS THE COUNTY GONNA WIDEN THE ROAD? UM, I MEAN THAT'S, AND I ALSO LIVE WHERE THERE'S A HILL IN FRONT OF MR. CHAMBERS ROAD.
SO COMING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, I CAN'T SEE.
SO THEIR ROAD IS GONNA BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT HILL.
I'VE BEEN HIT, ALMOST HIT TWICE JUST BY TRAFFIC COMING OVER THAT HILL.
CAN YOU IMAGINE 600 PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE? THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
WE BOUGHT IT WITH THE INTENT OF OUR CHILDREN COMING BACK AND OWNING A PIECE OF IT.
THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR GOAL, WAS TO HAVE OUR CHILDREN COME BACK AND LIVE NOT WITH THAT NEXT DOOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE CASE IS, DOES THE, UH, APPLICANT WISH TO SAY ANYTHING IN REBUTTAL TO WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD HERE? OR, OR IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COM? UM, SUPERVISORS JUST, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DID MEET WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS, UH, PRIOR TO, UH, PURSUING THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, AT THE TIME THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND FEELINGS CHANGE.
UM, SO WE HAD GONE DOWN THAT ROAD TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY BEFORE WE DID APPLY.
SO THAT WAS, THAT'S THE ONLY REBUTTAL I CAN THINK OF.
WELL, AND PART OF OUR GENERAL PARK RULE IS JUST TO MENTION LIKE THE LAST THING SHE HAD TALKED ABOUT, THE NOISE ATVS OR, UM, GOLF CARTS OR WHATNOT ON PAGE ONE IN OUR GENERAL PARK RULES UNDER QUIET HOURS OR 11 TO SEVEN, BUT EXCESSIVE, EXCESSIVE NOISE EVEN DURING NON QUIETT HOURS.
NUISANCE PUBLIC INTOXICATION, ILLEGAL DRUG USE, SALE OR EXCHANGE, PUBLIC NUDITY, FOUL OR OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, EXPLOSIVE.
AND, UH, EXPLOSIVES AND FIREWORKS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THE PARK AT ANY TIME.
IF NEIGHBORS CAN SEE IT OR HEAR IT, IT SHALL ABIDE BY THESE RULES.
THIS INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO OUTDOOR TV VIEWING, BARKING DOGS, MUSIC, ET CETERA.
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OH, YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS RAISING THEIR HAND? HAND? YEAH.TERRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN OVER THERE HAD A QUESTION.
THE GENTLEMAN OVER THERE, JUST FOR RECORD, NOT EVERYBODY THAT THEY SPOKE TO WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I WASN'T SPOKE TO AT ALL ABOUT IT.
WE DID NOT MEET WITH MR. UH, CHAMBER.
HE HAS A, HE IS CONNECTED AS WELL.
YOU HAVE ONE QUESTION IF I'M ALLOWED J COME FORWARD THOUGH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS TERRY CHAMBERS, UH, 1 7 6 2 5 NASH ROAD.
UM, MY PARCEL WRAPS AROUND MY DAD'S FROM THE CREEK BRANCH ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, THE VERY FIRST NIGHT I MET THIS GENTLEMAN WAS HERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND, UM, HE TOLD ME ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING TO DO AND HE, UH, HE REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME WAS I INTERESTED IN HELPING HIM THERE.
AND I ASKED WITH WHAT? AND HE SAID, SECURITY, HE WOULD NEED SOMEBODY TO LOOK AFTER THE PLACE.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, HE SAID, MY WIFE AND I LIKE TO TRAVEL, SO I NEED SOMEBODY TO LOOK AFTER THE PLACE WHILE I'M GONE.
MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE AND THAT'S YOUR HOME, HOW DO YOU POLICE IT? DAILY WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRAVELING? STAFF.
AND, UM, I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE AREA AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT, UM, I GREW UP RIGHT THERE.
I EVEN RODE FOUR WHEELERS AND MOTORCYCLES ON A PROPERTY THAT HE'S GETTING READY TO BUILD OR DEVELOP.
THEN COUNTY HAS BEEN A QUIET PLACE.
UM, I WELCOME ANYONE THAT WANTS TO COME TO DENWOODY AND, AND BUILD A HOME AND, AND BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP IT QUIET AND SAFE.
AND, UM, I JUST ASK YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT.
IF, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE SITTING IN YOUR HOME AND YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND YOU OPEN IT ONE DAY AND THIS IS IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? UM, TO ME THAT'S TROUBLING.
UM, MY CHILDREN MAY ONE DAY LIVE IN MY DAD'S HOME, AND MY GRANDCHILDREN MAY BE OUT FRONT AT THE BUS STOP.
WHAT TYPE OF SAFETY DO THEY HAVE? AND ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS ONE POTENTIAL, UM, TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT GETS ME LATE TO THE BUS STOP.
WHAT'S THE SECURITY OF MY GRANDCHILDREN WHEN THEY'RE WAITING ON PAWPAW TO COME GET 'EM OFF THE BUS? HOW SECURE ARE THEY STANDING OUT THERE WITH 600 REVOLVING PERSONALITIES ACROSS THE STREET? YOU KNOW, SO, UM, RIGHT.
I DIDN'T, UM, FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THIS FROM THE START WITH THE POTENTIAL THAT COULD, COULD BE THERE.
IT ALL SOUNDS WELL AND GOOD, AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB AT PRESENTING IT.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE GREAT THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO.
UH, I'M JUST CONCERNED OF WHAT IT IS GOING TO END UP.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THAT PORTION.
NOW LET'S, CHAIRMAN, JUST BEFORE YOU GET COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD, I WAS WONDERING IF A PLAN COMMISSION CHAIRMAN MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD MR. PROCE FOR SOMETHING.
UM, A FEW THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS REALLY STRUGGLED WITH THIS CASE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE MET IN JANUARY, WE TABLED IT BECAUSE WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE WE HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE CAME BACK IN FEBRUARY AND TO THE APPLICANT'S CREDIT, THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AS THEY DID TONIGHT, OF DESCRIBING WHAT THEIR VISION WAS, THE SPECIFICITY OF THEIR RULES AND REGULATION, WHICH BECOMES A PART OF THE CPU IS IMPORTANT.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE DIVIDED ON THREE THREE VOTE.
AND THERE ARE THOSE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THOSE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHO FELT LIKE THAT, THAT SPECIFICITY, IF IT COULD BE ENFORCED, AND IF IT COULD BE ENFORCED FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THEN IT WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE COUNTY.
NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE, THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING NEXT DOOR, AS YOU HEARD THE COMMENTS TONIGHT, WILL CERTAINLY FEEL THE WAY THEY FEEL.
THE QUESTION BECOMES, DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS CAN BE AND WILL BE ENFORCED? AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD THREE PEOPLE, FOUR AND THREE PEOPLE AGAINST.
WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD IN THE COUNTY, IN MY OPINION, OR IN THE OPINION OF SOME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, OF ENFORCING EXISTING EXPECTATIONS, RULES AND REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPGROUNDS.
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BUT THEN THIS IS NOT A CAMPGROUND, THIS IS AN RV PARK.AND SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, DO YOU THINK THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE STAFF AND THE COMMITMENT TO ENFORCE THE CONDITIONAL USE USES THAT HAD BEEN SET FORTH IN THE HOPE IN THE WHOLE APPLICATION? IF THAT IS, I THINK, I THINK THE COUNTY WOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT IF YOU DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT, THEN WE MAY BE OPENING UP A PANDORA'S BOX.
AND THAT'S A, YOU'VE GOT A DIFFICULT SITUATION AND WE DIDN'T HELP YOU A GREAT DEAL, EXCEPT WE DID ASK A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS.
UH, I DO THINK, UH, BASED ON THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE BACKGROUNDS OF THE APPLICANTS, THAT THEY WOULD BECOME AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, AN ASSET TO THE COUNTY.
UM, IT JUST CAN, AND THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH ALL THE COMMITMENTS THAT THEY'VE MADE.
AND, AND IT IS AN EXPENSIVE OP, YOU KNOW, PROPOSITION.
SO THAT'S SAYING THAT THEY SPEND X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USES.
IS THE COUNTY GONNA SHUT 'EM DOWN? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I THINK THE COUNTY HAS TO ASK.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE RULES, DON'T MAKE 'EM.
UH, SO IT'S, UH, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY TRIED HARD ON THIS ONE, AND I THINK WE, WE DID, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD GREAT REASONING, GREAT QUESTIONS, GREAT, UH, COMMENTS.
AND, UH, THEY VOTED WITH THEIR HEADS AND THEIR HEARTS.
UM, I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOAL.
THIS IS, IS DISTRICT POLE FROM SCOTCH ROAD TO RIGHT ONE IN NASH ROAD.
I'VE PROBABLY DRIVEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES IN THE LAST 62 YEARS.
UM, AND SO TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT THIS PIECE OF LAND, UM, AND KEVIN'S GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME.
UM, WE PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT, I GUESS MAYBE IT WAS THE LAST COMP PLAN WE TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE PMDS OR PD, WHAT WERE PUDS PUDS PLAN, URBAN, URBAN DEVELOPMENTS, URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY, UM, DISCUSSED ABOUT A GOLF COURSE, UH, HIGH-END SUBDIVISION VISION, UM,
UM, THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT THE PUDS HAD DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR 'EM.
SO WE STAYED AWAY FROM, FROM THOSE.
BUT IN THE COMP PLAN, WE DID PUT, UM, A BY, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN GROWTH AREA.
AND SO IN MY MIND, UM, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IN MY MIND, UM, IS TO STAY IN TREES.
BUT I ALSO REALIZE THAT THE FSES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND IF, IF IT'S YOU KNOW, OF THEIR CHOOSING TO SELL IT, THEN THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
UM, I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME, THERE IS GONNA BE SOME GROWTH ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHETHER IT IS A, WELL, I'LL GO BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN DWIN COUNTY, OUR DEVELOPERS ARE DEVELOPING PREEXISTING LOTS WITH A SHOTGUN EFFECT OVER THE HOLD COUNTY, WHEREVER.
THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY ZONED 20 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE ON IT.
THEY WILL NOT COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO GET PIECES OF PROPERTY REZONED.
AND I THINK THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT PROBABLY ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE WOULD BE A HIGH-END, LARGE LOTS SUBDIVISION.
UM, WHEN YOU CROSS STONY CREEK GOING WEST.
I THINK THAT'S THE LINE IN THE SAND TO ME, UM, FOR ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE STARTING TO GET IN SOME AG LAND.
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SIDE TO THE, UM, BUILDING HOMES THERE, UM, FROM MR. CHAMBER'S DRIVEWAY TO RIGHT ONE, THE ROAD DOES GET NARROW AND IT NEED, WOULD NEED IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS TO BE, UM, FIXED AND I DRIVE 40 MILES AN HOUR ON NASH ROAD AND WHEN I GET TO WORK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, I PROBABLY GOT SIX OR EIGHT CARS BEHIND ME THAT ARE CUSSING ME BECAUSE I'M MESSING AROUND.UM, BUT ANYTHING DONE WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, I THINK ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.
UM, THE APPLICANTS, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, IS WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN DO.
UM, BUT FOR ME, UM, TO, UM, AND, AND MR.
AND THEN WHEN IT GOT TO THE BOARD LEVEL, THE BOARD WAS LIKE 35 CONDITIONS.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONDITIONS FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE TO DO.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, FOR THE APPLICANTS, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE A BIG COMMITMENT TO, UM, DO THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND, AND SO I CAN'T, CAN'T BE IN FAVOR OF IT, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WE, WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT, THAT DOES THE TECHNICAL REVIEW OF THESE ISSUES.
AND, UH, FROM THE MINUTES I READ AND FROM WHAT I SAW, THEY HAD A TOUGH TIME WITH IT.
NO, NO RECOMMENDATION CAME TO US BECAUSE IT WAS SPLIT.
SO, UH, SO IT WAS, IT IS A TOUGH, TOUGH DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE.
UM, I I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH, LIKE FIRE RESCUE SCHOOLS, IF THERE IS SOME CHILDREN IN THERE THAT HAVE TO GO, UH, I DO STRUGGLE THAT WITH A $4 MILLION INVESTMENT, IT'S 79 CENTS, IF I FIGURED RIGHT, THAT'S ABOUT 31,600.
SO I DO STRUGGLE WITH THAT PART A LITTLE BIT.
AND AFTER 30 DAYS, YOU CAN'T CHARGE A TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ON THAT.
SO YOU WOULD ONLY BE GETTING THAT FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE SHORT STAYS.
UM, THE SEWER SERVICES, I KNOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE A ENGINEER TO, TO PROVE IT.
THEY CAN DO IT THERE AND MAYBE THEY CAN, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS, IF WE COULD PUT HOUSES ON A FIVE ACRE LOTS OUT IN THAT AREA, IT WOULDN'T BE 40 HOUSES.
SO 40 AS OPPOSED TO 300 LOTS IS, TO ME IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND, UH, I, I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.
I KNOW MR. LEE TALKED ABOUT DESTINATION FACILITIES AND MOST OF THE ALL CAMPGROUNDS WE HAVE NOW ARE AT A DESTINATION WHERE THEY CAN BE NEXT TO THE LAKE OR, OR WHATEVER.
SO, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US, YOU KNOW, TO THE WEST, I KNOW AMELIA'S GOT ONE THAT I KNOW OF, THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE, BUT, UH, WE DO, WE HAVE FILLED A NEED, I THINK OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE COULDN'T PUT ANOTHER ONE IN, BUT, UH, I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN WITH THAT ONE.
AND, UH, NASH ROAD, AS MR. LEE MENTIONED, IT'S NOT A ROUTE 40, IT'S NOT A 1 53, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A RURAL ROAD.
WHEN YOU MEET A TRACTOR TRAILER ON THESE BACK ROADS, YOU HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL AND THEY'RE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A TRACTOR TRAILER, SO YOU HAVE TO
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BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.UM, BUT I WILL SAY THE APPLICANTS GAVE GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IF SOMETHING CAME UP ON A, A GOOD ROAD IN A, IN A DIFFERENT AREA, THAT I MIGHT BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I'M, I'M HAVING PROBLEMS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
HONOR ANY COMMENTS? UM, WELL, LISTENING TO THE, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THEY, UM, PROPOSED, UM, IT, IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION AND SOMETIMES TIMING IS EVERYTHING.
AND AS I LISTEN TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND, UM, INDIVIDUALS COMING TO THE COUNTY, AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT IS PEOPLE DO LEAVE CHESTERFIELD OR WHATEVER TO COME OUT BECAUSE THEY WANT, UM, PEACE AND QUIET.
I MEAN, HOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT THEY, UM, HAVE SAID THEY MOVED.
AND I'M, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING AND, UH, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RV, UM, RVS THAT COULD COME AND, UM, ON THIS, ON THIS ROAD AND EVERYTHING, AND I THINK SOMETIMES, UM, IT COULD PROBABLY BE A, UM, A TRA UH, PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS THAT COULD, UM, HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK THAT YOU DO WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS TO WORK WITH YOU.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE, UH, PROPERTIES AND THINGS THAT COME UP AND, UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S THEIR RIGHT.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE BEEN IN A AREA FOR A LONG TIME AND THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY, UM, THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH, UM, TO DO, UH, THIS MAYBE AT A, AT A LATER TIME.
AND I'M, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND NOT ONLY THE TAX REVENUE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET, BUT ALSO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO, UM, ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THEIR HOME, THEIR FAMILY, THEIR CHILDREN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
AND WITH ALL THAT SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST CANNOT, UM, GO ALONG WITH AT THIS TIME, AND AS I SAID, TIMING IS EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK, UM, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD, EXPANDING THE ROAD OR DOING SOMETHING ELSE OR MAYBE FINDING, UM, POSSIBLY ANOTHER AREA, BUT, UM, I CANNOT, UM, VOTE, UM, FOR THIS AT THIS TIME.
UM, COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MY MIND, FIRST OF ALL IS TRANSIENCY PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.
UM, WE CAN TAKE PICTURES OF PEOPLE'S, UM, PLATES AS THEY COME IN AND GO OUT THAT, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHO'S IN THE RV.
OKAY? UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A FULFILLMENT CENTER HERE IN DENWITY COUNTY AND AMAZON, IF YOU READ, DO ANY READING ABOUT THOSE FULFILLMENT CENTERS, PEOPLE TRAVEL AND THEY WILL GO AND STAY IN A COMMUNITY FOR SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S SEASONAL, DEPENDING UPON WHICH UNIT YOU'RE AT.
UM, SO THAT HAPPENS PRETTY FREQUENTLY AND THAT, THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE TO FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
THE OTHER IS, UM, IF YOU'RE STAYING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN VEHICLE, THEN IF, AND LET'S SAY FROM A TRIPS POINT OF VIEW, LEAVING THAT PROPERTY GOING TO NUMBER ONE HIGHWAY ON NASH ROAD, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING TO 300, 600 TRIPS A DAY ON FROM THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY TO NUMBER ONE HIGHWAY.
SO THAT HAS TO BE A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS A COMMUNITY.
THE OTHER IS, MOST OF THESE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AGE ON 'EM, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO FORWARD THE TYPE OF RV WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL INCOME OF SOME KIND, UM, THAT WOULD BE COMING IF YOU'RE VISITING THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GO TO PLACES AND, AND SIGHT SEE IN, IN THIS AREA.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE DOESN'T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH, BUT THE EMS SIDE DOES.
OKAY? UM, YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE HEALTHIER.
NOT SAYING I'M 62, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT AS TIME GOES ON, THERE'S MORE DEMAND ON EMS AS WE GROW OLDER.
SO YES, WE HAVE A FULL STAFF, FULL-TIME STAFF AT DENWITTY, BUT WE ONLY HAVE THREE CREWS THAT COVER 507,
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SEVEN SQUARE MILES.AND OF COURSE, OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR IS TELLING US THAT WE NEED HELP THERE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
UM, OF COURSE, GOING BACK TO WHAT, UM, DR.
PROSCI SAYS, RULES ARE WONDERFUL, BUT IF THEY'RE NO GOOD, IF NOBODY CAN ENFORCE THEM, OKAY? SO I LOOK AT OUR COUNTY, WE HAVE ONE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR THIS COUNTY ONE, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DRIVEN BY COMPLAINTS.
SO AT SOME POINT YOU, YOU WOULD PRAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO FOR CO COMPLIANCE ISSUES, BUT THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE.
SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON AS FAR AS THE, THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED.
AND THEN MY LAST IS THIS, AND THIS GOES BACK TO MR. LEE'S COMMENT.
WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? OKAY, IF YOU BELIEVE IN AG, IT'S TREES, OKAY, AT THIS, AT THIS TIME IN THE COUNTY'S HISTORY.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IT PRESENTS ITSELF FOR A GREATER OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN, IN THE, AS THE COUNTY MOVES FORWARD.
SO I THINK THERE'S A GREATER OPPORTUNITY THERE.
UM, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT NASH ROAD, AND I KNOW MR. LEE LIVES AND TRAVELS NASH ROAD EVERY DAY.
I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE MULTIPLE TIMES MYSELF OVER MY LIFETIME.
UM, IT'S NOT ONE THAT YOU WANT TO, UH, MEET ANOTHER SOMETHING OF ANY SIZE ON, UM, BECAUSE TWO, TWO VEHICLES COMING AND GOING THAT ARE OF AN RV SIZE MIGHT NOT BE, YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFICULTIES.
SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR CASE AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, IF NOT, YOU HAVE A, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION, BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.22286 A PARA THREE AND SEVEN, THE ZONING ORDINANCE 2 22 DASH 22 AND 22 DASH TWO.
IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RE RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST C DASH 23 DASH THREE AS PRESENTED, BE DISAPPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD NOT BE INCOMPLIANCE WITH THE INTENT, HELPLESS AND DESIGN OF THE DEITY COUNTY ZONING CODE.
UH, DOES ANYBODY WANNA TAKE A SHORT BREAK OR DO THE APPOINTMENTS? KEEP GOING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
[14.A. Appointments]
ITEM NUMBER 14.I THINK WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A, A NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE DEITY COUNTY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, UM, WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT RICHARD TAYLOR TO, UM, APPOINTMENT, UM, 2 25 20 28.
OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN GOT A MOTION OF A SECOND.
CAN WE GET ROLL CALL MR. MOODY? AYE.
[15. CITIZEN COMMENTS (3 MINUTES)]
OUR CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.I WILL OPEN THAT CITIZEN'S COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.
DOES ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY, THE FLOOR? OH, WE HAVE SOME PLEASE COME FORWARD.
NAME AND, AND UH, ADDRESS AND GOOD EVENING.
VICKI RIZZO 2 4 3 0 1 DRIVE ROAD NORTH IN WITTY.
THIS WAS A LOVELY PRESENTATION.
THE NEIGHBORS HAD A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS.
QUOTING EXACTLY WHAT OUR CONCERNS WERE.
ONLY THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT 300 PEOPLE.
YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT MIGHT BLEED OVER TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
HOW MANY COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE AT A CAMPGROUND? SIX, EIGHT.
YOU, THEY WERE OFFERING A 75 FOOT BUFFER.
YOU GAVE US 10 ON ONE SIDE AND 50 ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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AND THE NOISE, THEY WERE WILLING TO PUT IN EXTRA NOISE PRECAUTIONS.MR. LEE, TO YOUR CREDIT, YOU DID COME TO THE PROPERTY, YOU STOOD IN OUR BACKYARD RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE COX ROAD APARTMENT AND YOU SAID, WHAT NOISE WOULD YOU BE TALKING ABOUT WITH APARTMENTS? I WILL LEAVE THAT UNANSWERED.
UH, MR. MOODY, I COMMEND YOU FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY SERVICES, FIRE, RESCUE AND SCHOOLS TO QUOTE YOU.
YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THESE EXTRA 1500 PUTTING THIS BURDEN IN NORTH END WITTY.
AND I'M GONNA CALL THESE, THESE CAMPING PEOPLE.
I'M GONNA SUGGEST THEY BRING IT TO NORTH END WITTY BECAUSE THIS BOARD HAS PROVEN IT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN NORTH END WITTY AS LONG AS WE PUT THE HOUSES AND THE HIGH END.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE QUOTE, THE HIGH END NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN HERE.
YOU DON'T CARE WHAT GOES NORTH END WHERE YOU APPROVED IT BY YOUR ACTIONS, YOU WILL BE KNOWN.
MAUREEN JONES, 49 0 3 STERLING ROAD.
DURING THE COURSE OF A BOARD MEETING DURING THE PAST YEAR, A BOARD MEMBER DECLARED THAT THE MEETING WAS NOT ABOUT APARTMENTS, BUT ABOUT SAVING SOULS.
YET THE ACTIONS OF THE BOARDS AND THE ASSOCIATES AT LARGE DEMONSTRATE OTHERWISE.
FOR EXAMPLE, GRANTING A MINUSCULE 10 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND A HOMEOWNER'S NEIGHBORING PROPERTY MAKES THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY UNLIVABLE AND UNSELLABLE AND PRACTICALLY FORCES HER TO ACQUIESCE HER LAND TO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER.
NO LOCALITY IN VIRGINIA WOULD HAVE GRANTED SUCH AN OUTRAGEOUS ZONING BURDEN UPON ONE OF THEIR CITIZENS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THE BOARD AND ASSOCIATES ALLOWED THE DEVELOPER TO DICTATE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HOW TO WRITE THE WATER RESERVE RIGHTS FOR THE DEVELOPER'S BENEFITS.
THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THOSE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THE BOARD AND ASSOCIATES ACCEPTED FALSIFIED TRAFFIC DATA AS GOSPEL, YET DISMISSED THE TESTIMONY OF A BOARD MEMBER WHO LIVES THE REAL TRAFFIC DATA DAILY, ALONG WITH OTHER LEGITIMATE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS JUST A SMATTERING OF THE EXAMPLES OF BAD POLITICS.
NORTH AND WITTY CITIZENS AND BEYOND ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IN THE MONTHS SINCE THE ACTIONS OF THE BOARD AND ASSOCIATED ADMINISTRATION AT LARGE SPEAK AGAINST HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
RATHER, THE MESSAGE WAS SENT TO YOUNG AND OLD THAT THE CITIZEN READ DOES NOT MATTER.
THAT BATTLES ARE WON BY ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE OF POWER, MONEY, AND INFLUENCE.
AND BY DOING SO, YOU CAN WIN THE BATTLE EVEN BEFORE IT STARTS.
UH, BUT THE PEOPLE DO HAVE A ROLE IN PLAYING THE USEFUL IDIOT IN THE POLITICAL WHEEL.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE DISSERVICE TO THE CITIZENS AND A BAD EXAMPLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND WORST OF ALL, DOES NOTHING TO WIN SOULS FOR THE CREATOR.
LUKE 1613 SAYS, NO ONE CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS FOR HE WILL EITHER HATE THE ONE AND LOVE THE OTHER AND YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD.
AND MAMMON ONE JOHN 1416, JESUS SAYS, I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE IN FIRST JOHN CHAPTER TWO, THREE THROUGH FIVE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW HIM IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS.
THE MAN WHO SAYS I KNOW HIM BUT DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR.
BUT IF ANYONE OBEYS HIS WORDS, GOD'S LOVE IS TRULY MADE COMPLETE IN HIM.
FOR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCED THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN ACTION FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST YEAR, ALL FAITH AND TRUST WAS LOST IN YOU.
IS ALL HOPE LOST? NO, BECAUSE GOD PROMISES TO RESPOND TO ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH.
GREATER THINGS AWAIT THOSE WHO FIND HIM THAN IN ANY OTHER EARTHLY GAIN.
AND EVEN WITH THE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE, YOU REALLY COULD BE THE CATALYST FOR GOD'S WAY, WHICH IS THE GOOD WAY.
AND WE SAW ANOTHER BIT OF HYPOCRISY AGAIN HERE TONIGHT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
[16. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
MEMBER COMMENTS.I'D, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS RIGHT HERE, MR. LEE.
UM, THE FIRST, UM, AND, AND Y'ALL ARE GONNA LEAVE, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD, YOU CAN, UH, GO AHEAD SPAN THE GOSPEL.
MAYBE JUST LIKE YOUR GOD, IT MIGHT EVEN BE THE SAME GOD.
BUT IN THIS CASE TONIGHT AND THE CASE
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OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT WAS IN THE COMP PLAN FOR GROWTH TO BE IN THOSE AREAS AND COMPLETELY STATED WATER AND SEWAGE.THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED TO GROW TONIGHT'S CASE.
IF IT, IT COULD HAVE EVEN BEEN A DEVELOPER COME IN AND WANT TO PUT 40 HOUSES AND THEN 20 TOWN HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE, UM, HIGH END.
I THINK YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE HIGH END PART OF WHAT, AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS YOU QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF STAFF ABOUT THE STATISTICS AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, LIKE STAFF DID SOMETHING UNETHICAL FOR US.
UM, AND AND THAT'S, YOU THINK WHAT WE DO IS EASY AND, AND WE WE CAN GO HOME AT NIGHT AND TALK TO THE DEVIL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE DID BEFORE WE GOT HERE WAS WE TALKED TO THE DEVIL.
UM, I I'M SORRY, I'M I'M SORRY.
I SAID EACH, EACH CASE THAT COMES FOR IS DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH CASE UPON THE E UPON THE MERIT, AND THAT'S WHAT I DID TONIGHT, UH, ON THIS CASE.
OH, WELL THE ONLY THING I'M I'M GONNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SIT ON THE BOARD AND, UM, IT'S A LOT TO CONSIDER AND I THINK, UM, WITH THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, ARE SPIRITUALLY DRIVEN AND UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS, IT'S NOT THE EASY THING TO DO.
AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE VOTE AND WE HAVE TO VOTE EACH, EACH ONE OF US VOTES HOW WE, HOW WE SEE THINGS.
AND UM, SO WE JUST, UM, JUST LOOKING FORWARD, JUST HAVE TO TRY TO HOPEFULLY, UM, WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS A LOT BETTER, A LOT BETTER AND, AND BETTER FOR THE THE COUNTY BECAUSE, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE SEPARATE IS NOT GONNA WORK.
WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND, AND TRYING TO FIND, TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS.
I I THE ETHICS OF THESE PEOPLE HAVING BEEN WITH THEM FOR 12 YEARS AND WITH THE STAFF, UM, I THINK YOU'RE STRETCHING IT WHEN YOU SAY THAT THEIR ETHICS ARE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AT.
WE ALL HAVE OUR FAITH THAT WE CONGREGATE AROUND ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE ETHICS OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE DEALT WITH FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS IN THIS POSITION AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD STAND BEHIND THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE ME INFORMATION TO MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS FOR THE 28,000 PEOPLE OF DENWITTY COUNTY.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, I UNDERSTAND THEM.
UM, BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS AND I STAND BEHIND THEM TOO.
CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTES? SURE.
I CALL US BACK TO ORDER ALL MR. MASSEY GOES,
[17.A. FY24 Revenue Budget]
GONNA PRESENT THE 2024 REVENUE BUDGET, MR. CHAIRMAN, MY NAME'S ON IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAG TEAM THOSE.SO WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, SORRY, LORI STEVENS, OUR COMMISSIONER, THE REVENUE HAS JOINED US AS WELL AS THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANNE HOWERTON.
SO IN AT YOUR SEAT WHILE YOU'RE AT YOUR BREAK, WE PUT THE, UH, THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE ANALYSIS IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT I HAD ASKED, UH, MS. HOWERTON IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY JUST GONNA WORK THROUGH THIS TODAY AT, AT THE VERY END I'LL, I'LL JUMP TO THE END, WHICH YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO READ THE LAST PAGE OF THE BOOK, BUT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT $1.3 MILLION IN NEW REVENUE GROWTH FROM LAST YEAR.
SO I, AGAIN, EARLIER I WAS TELLING YOU THAT ALL THE REQUESTS, IF YOU KNOW, THIS IS UNCUT BY ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU LOOKED AT MOST OF THE REQUESTS FROM EITHER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, ALL THE OTHER, UM,
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ENTITIES THAT HAVE REQUESTED FUNDS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OVER $6 MILLION WORTH OF REQUESTS.SO AGAIN, WHEN I WAS MY, MY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS, WE'VE ALWAYS PRESENTED A BALANCED BUDGET.
WE WILL GET YOU A BALANCED BUDGET THIS YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, YOU NEED IT TO KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE LOOKED LIKE.
AND TO MS. STEVENS, SHE'S BEEN WORKING HARD.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A DATA CONVERSION.
UM, HER STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE RE-ACCREDITATION THAT THEY JUST GOT AGAIN, BUT, UH, SUPER STAFF THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING BOTH CAN AT THE CANDLES AT THE ENDS, IF YOU WILL, TO THE MIDDLE AND, UM, LOT OF NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE REVENUE PROJECTIONS TO US.
UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS LAST WEEK WAS SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE VOLATILITY, IF YOU WILL, OF PERSONAL PROPERTY.
SO WE GET TO THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR THAT WAS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE SAW AN EXTREME INCREASE IN PERSONAL PROPERTY AND WE BUDGETED THAT THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AT 90% OF FAIR MARKET VALUE.
NOW, SINCE THAT TIME, THE OVERALL CAR VALUE HAS STARTED TO COME DOWN.
UM, PROBABLY NOT AS SIGNIFICANTLY AS IT WENT UP, BUT IT'S STILL COMING DOWN RATHER NICELY.
AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE GO BACK TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALMOST BREAKING EVEN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TO THE GOOD.
SO IF WE WORK THROUGH THIS, UM, THERE ARE LIKE 31 DIFFERENT FORMS OF REVENUE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, UM, AT FOR THE COUNTY.
THEN YOU GET TO THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL SIDE.
BUT, UH, FROM A REAL ESTATE TAX PERSPECTIVE, AND MS. STEVENS AND UH, MS. TON PLEASE JUMP IN.
BUT YOU'RE SEEING, AND IT TAKES A LOT, IT TAKES A TON OF NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION, UM, TO, OR, OR BUSINESSES COMING IN THAT ACTUALLY FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, MOVES THE NEEDLE THERE.
SO EVEN WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $160,000 INCREASE WHEN IT COMES TO, TO REAL ESTATE, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE PARTICULAR ONES THAT ARE DEFINITELY MARKET DRIVEN.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T DONE A REASSESSMENT, WE KNOW WE'RE DOING A REASSESSMENT THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT YOU ARE SEEING NEARLY $200,000 INCREASE THERE.
BUT WE KNOW AFTER THE REASSESSMENT THAT NUMBER WILL COME UP, UH, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF EITHER, LORD, DO YOU WANNA MAKE ANY STATEMENTS RELATIVE TO THAT FOR THE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN, THIS IS FOR, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY GENERAL STATEMENTS OR THE BOARD MEMBERS GOT ANY QUESTION? JUST ONE QUESTION.
IS THAT 2 31? A HUNDRED PERCENT? YES.
AND IT'S AT A 33% PPTR RATE YES AS WELL.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANNA THEM NOW UHUH 90 WAS FY 23.
WE WEREN'T PROPOSING 90% FOR FY 24 HAVE REALLY HAVE REALLY DROPPED.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE 15 TO 20% AND AT LEAST THE HIGH MILEAGE INFORMATION REALLY, UM, I, I THINK WE'VE GOT INTERNET ALL OVER THE FAMILY NOW
UM, AND SO WE HAD JUST A HUGE INFLUX OF HIGH MILEAGE, WHICH THE PROGRAM IS THERE AND THAT'S WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO.
SO FOR INSTANCE, MY CAR, UH, I DRIVE A 2012 PILOT.
UM, THE VALUE LAST YEAR, 90% WAS 9,000 THIS YEAR CAME DOWN TO 5,000 MM-HMM
AND BY HIGH MILEAGE I'M DOWN TWO FOR GRADE.
SO YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT 90% OF 90% RATIO
ALSO, THAT MARKET HAS ALSO STARTED TO COME WAY DOWN.
I'VE TALKED TO AN RV DEALER, WE'RE BEYOND THE COVID RV AND TRAVEL.
UM, SO PEOPLE ARE ARE PITCHING THOSE, THOSE VALUES HAVE REALLY GONE DOWN, BUT HAS BEEN SURPRISING THIS YEAR ARE THE BOAT VALUES, BOAT VALUES HAVE GONE UP 20 TO 40%.
AND I THINK THAT MARKET HAS JUST BEEN DELAYED.
UM, BEHIND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, THE WISDOM LAST YEAR WAS IF WE WOULD'VE KEPT IT AT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND DIDN'T CHANGE THE TAX RATE, REMEMBER YOU, YOU DROPPED IT 15 CENTS AND THREE YEARS BEFORE THAT YOU DROPPED IT 15 CENTS.
SO IF YOU WOULD'VE KEPT IT THE SAME, WE WOULD'VE SEEN JUST AN EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN REVENUE.
BUT A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH DIDN'T TAKE THE PER THE 90% APPROACH.
THEY LOWERED THEIR TAX RATE EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND NOW THAT THE, THE ACTUAL RATES ARE STARTING TO COME BACK IN ALIGNMENT,
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THEY'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT BUDGET SHORTFALL.SO, YOU KNOW, OUR HOPE LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE 90% WAS THAT WE WOULD BE ON THE, THE POSITIVE SIDE THIS YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE JUST, WE JUST BARELY AT $231,000 MADE IT.
SO THANK GOODNESS WE MADE THE DECISION WE DID LAST YEAR AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND OUR TAX RATE IS LOWER BY 15 CENTS.
SO YOU'RE AT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MUCH LOWER OVERALL.
UM, THAT 30% FROM WHEN, WHEN WE WERE A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH THE REST OF IT PRETTY QUICKLY 'CAUSE I, AND AGAIN, Y'ALL, YOU ARE FAMILIAR AFTER 12 YEARS OF BEING TOGETHER WHERE WE'RE AT, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS, YOU KNOW, PENALTY AND INTEREST, YOU'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX, YOU'RE UP, UM, $190,000 THERE.
YOU CAN SEE YOUR CONSUMER UTILITY TAX IS DOWN, BUSINESS LICENSE IS UP, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE, DOWN BANK STOCK TAX.
AND AGAIN, ANY OF THESE, ANN LORI, PLEASE JUMP IN IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU NEED TO WANT TO ADDRESS.
UM, ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN ON THE SECOND PAGE HERE, JUST RUNNING DOWN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ON RELATIVE TO THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE OR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT? ANN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO MAKE ON THAT PAGE? NO, THE, IT'S JUST, IT'S ALL UP AND DOWN.
DEPENDING ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH EACH, EACH LINE.
I THINK I, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ADMISSIONS AND THE LODGING TAXES ARE STRONG NUMBERS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS PLANNED.
UH, WHAT ARE PERMITTING, UM, DIFFERENT VENUE THAT WE'VE GOT HERE IN THE COUNTY TO, TO DRIVE THOSE NUMBERS.
YOU'RE SEEING NEARLY 65,000 GROWTH BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE.
NOW KEEP IN MIND WE, WE DEDICATE THAT FUNDING BACK TOWARDS, IS IT BOTH OF THOSE? NO, IT'S THE, UH, IT'S JUST THE LO THE LODGING TAX, YEAH.
TOWARDS DEBT AND I, A LITTLE SCHOOL INDEBTEDNESS.
I WAS A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE ON THE, THE ADMISSIONS 'CAUSE MEAN LAST YEAR WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD BUMP, BUT I WASN'T SURE.
AND I, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, THESE NUMBERS, MORE THAN LIKELY SOME OF THEM COULD CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE GET TO THE VERY END.
BUT, 'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY FLUID, FLUID PROCESS.
UM, ANIMAL LICENSE PERMITS, I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, UH, FINES AND FORFEITURES.
THAT'S BASED ON CURRENT HISTORICAL DATA.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2020 COURT FINES AND FORFEITURES 844,000 AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 500,000 THIS YEAR.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT'S, THAT'S COMING DOWN REVENUE FROM THE USE OF MONEY REVENUE.
THE INTEREST IS STRONG THIS YEAR.
I'M JUST NOT TOO SURE WHAT WHAT MIGHT HAPPENING NEXT YEAR.
SO I WAS AFRAID TO GET TWO CAVALIER WITH THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, AND CHARGES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA MEET BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR THAT.
AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE SHOWING US A LITTLE, NOT MUCH, BUT COMING DOWN NEXT YEAR TOO, THOSE ARE BASED ON TICKETS, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, SO YOU GOT YOUR OTHER CHARGES, WHATNOT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON PAGE FOUR? THE AMBULANCE BILLING IS UP SOMEWHERE.
YOU WHERE WE HAD INCREASED THE, THE FEES TO MATCH THE CURRENT MEDICARE FEES.
SO WE ARE, WE SHOULD REALIZE SOME MONEY FROM THAT INCREASE.
SO JUST THE, THE 1.3 MILLION THAT YOU'RE GETTING.
1.1 OF IT IS LOCAL GOVERNMENT, NOT, NOT STATE AND FEDERAL.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LOCAL REVENUE ON PAGE FIVE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LOCAL REVENUE TOTAL THERE.
REVENUE FROM THE COMMONWEALTH.
ANN, YOU WANNA TALK THAT THROUGH? UM, THIS, THE NON CATEGORICAL VERSION CATEGORY IS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE LESS, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF MOBILE HOME TITLE AND UM, SO WE DON'T GET ANYTHING.
COMMUNICATIONS TAX GOES DOWN EVERY YEAR.
THAT'S BASED ON A LOT OF, WE DON'T ANYTHING HOME PHONES GOING OUT.
SO THEY DID AWAY WITH THE TAX ON THE GAME OF SKILLS? THEY DID THAT ONLY WAS IN FOR LIKE ONE YEAR.
SO THE STATE IS STILL COLLECTING TAXES.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THOSE.
WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY PART OF IT ANYMORE.
SO THE GAMES OF SKILL WERE REALLY, I THINK, OUTLAWED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
AND THAT HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF, OF VERY INTENSE AND INTERESTING LITIGATION.
UM, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE FINALE TO THAT LITIGATION YET.
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AND THIS, THE, THE, UM, THE GAMING INDUSTRY HAS BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THOSE COURT CASES GOING AND KEEP THEM FROM HAVING ADVERSE RESULTS.AND SO THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO.
SO I THINK THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THEY ATTEMPTED OUTLAW IT AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, I THINK THEY LOST THE TAX REVENUE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T WON THEIR CASES IN COURT YET.
THERE'S GONNA BE A BACK ROLL BACK TO GET IT.
WHO IS I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE IF IT WAS A, FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLIES POINT OF VIEW, AND I'M SPEAKING EXTRA CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, SO I'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER TAX SOMETHING OR YOU MAKE IT ILLEGAL AND THEY CHOSE TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL.
SO DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, IT'S BASICALLY A FIRST AMENDMENT CHALLENGE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT AGAINST THE, THE, THE LAW THAT MADE IT ILLEGAL.
AND SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CHOSE TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL AND NOT TO TAX IT.
SO IF THAT LAW GETS STRUCK DOWN, I I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ANY TAXES ON THE ROLLBACK ON GOING OVER TO, TO, UH, PAGE SIX, THE CO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER'S REVENUES THAT ARE SHOWN.
THERE ARE THE ONES THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE COMP BOARD THIS WEEK.
THERE'S A, BASED ON THE, THE BASE BUDGET AT 5%, NOT ANY.
THAT'S ALL THEY CAN GIVE US AT THIS POINT.
UM, THE OTHER CATEGORICAL IS JUST VARIOUS GRANTS THAT WE ARE PRETTY SURE ABOUT THAT WE WILL GET THE ONES THAT WE NORMALLY GET.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT GOING ON WITH THE FEDERAL REVENUE.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF GRANTS THAT WE'LL PROBABLY GET IN THAT CATEGORY AS WELL.
ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE THINGS? YOU KNOW, THE STATE STUFF IS ALL STILL UP IN THE AIR PILL REALLY WENT UP PERCENTAGE WISE, DIDN'T IT? PILL WENT UP PERCENTAGE WISE, RIGHT.
IT DID ON THAT ONE LITTLE, THAT WHATEVER LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THAT THEY'RE PAYING US THAT $1,600 FOR.
SO AS KEVIN SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1.3 AND THAT'S THE ROUGH DRAFT.
UM, LORI'S STILL PEEING AND WORKING AND, AND SORTING THE THINGS OUT IN THE SYSTEM.
SO THAT MAY, WE MAY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 1.5.
I'M NOT ANTICIPATING ANY MORE THAN THAT FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CAVALIER WITH IT, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAIRLY REALISTIC WITH IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REAL CONCRETE IDEA OF WHAT THE BUDGET, HOW CLOSE WE'RE GONNA BE IN BUDGET THIS YEAR? WELL, I THINK UNDER BUDGET, UM, I THINK WE'LL BE A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILLION TO THE GOOD ON REVENUE.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE, I THINK PROBABLY SEVEN 50 IS PROBABLY WHERE WE'LL END UP ON THE REVENUE.
UM, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILLION TO THE GOODS.
SO I THINK FUND BALANCE WISE, WE'LL COME IN FAIRLY NORMAL.
HOWEVER, HOWEVER, I'VE ALREADY GOT IT SPENT.
SO BETWEEN IT DOES SPENT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE YEAH.
BETWEEN THE REASSESSMENT THAT HAS TO BE PAID AND OUR TRUE UP TO THE MEHERON RIVER REGIONAL JAIL AUTHORITY, YOU THAT'S GONE.
THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY DR.
SO THE GOOD THING WE'RE IN OVERALL NET POSITION GOOD WITH OUR FUND BALANCE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING A WHOLE LOT TO THE FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.
NOT ONCE WE, NOT LIKE WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST AS WE'VE YEAH.
WE'VE WORKED THROUGH OUR, OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO IF MY MATH'S CORRECT, ANN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF PERCENT ISH GROWTH FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU ALL.
YOU KNOW, THE YEARS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO MORE ON YOUR OPERATING BUDGET ARE THE YEARS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR OR FIVE, 6% REVENUE GROWTH.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE AT REALLY 2% REVENUE, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY FLAT.
BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE AT THE END OF YOUR REASSESSMENT CYCLE TOO.
SO IT'S NOT UNREALISTIC TO THINK NOW PEOPLE AT HOME ARE STILL BEING TAXED ON THEIR, THE VALUES OF THEIR HOMES AT 2019 VALUES NOT, NOT WHERE THE VALUE IS TODAY.
SO, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL TALKED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES AROUND US, THOSE THAT, THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE ASSESSMENT OFFICES WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING IN, YOU KNOW, MAKING ADJUSTMENTS EACH YEAR, YOU KNOW, GOOD.
AND WE LIKE TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, BUT YOU KNOW, CHESTERFIELD COUNTY'S OFFERING UP A REDUCTION IN TAXES THIS YEAR.
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THE SAME TIME THEY'RE ACTUALLY GROWING BY $160 MILLION IN NEW REVENUE.SO THEY CAN STILL OFFER A PENNY REDUCTION AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEIR OVERALL NET POSITION IS HIGH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN, IN LIKE A DIMITY COUNTY WHERE WELL, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR BUSINESS BASE IS TO OUR RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A REASSESSMENT, IT'S NOT TO HAVE THAT TO EQUALIZE YOUR TAXATION.
WE'RE STILL, IN MY OPINION, VERY WEAK ON RETAIL BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY SEE SOME GROWTH.
AND AS FAR AS YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T UNDERESTIMATE WHAT THE GOOD AND M AND TA MANUFACTURER BRINGS AS FAR AS JOBS AND WHATNOT LIKE THAT.
BUT YOUR REAL TAX DOLLAR BASE COMES FROM YOUR RETAILER MM-HMM
AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH DETAIL.
YOU AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HEAVILY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, SO YOU KNOW, THE BETTER BASE WOULD BE MORE LIKE 60% RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE PROBABLY UNLESS WE'VE CHANGED, WE'RE PROBABLY 80, 85% RESIDENTIAL TAXED.
SO THE MORE PRODUCTIVE WE CAN BE ON THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT SIDE AS WELL AS RETAIL COMMERCIAL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER, A BETTER MIX IN TAX BASED.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS, TO WRAP IT UP WAS, SO, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT WELL OVER $6 MILLION, YOU GOT ABOUT 1,000,003.
BEST CASE SCENARIO, MAYBE WE CAN REFINE IT TO 1,000,005.
UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA DO A LOT OF TRIMMING.
I TALKED TO YOU EARLIER ABOUT INTERNAL OPERATIONS AND BEING EVALUATED.
WE'RE ASSESSING WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO FIND EFFICIENCIES AND REDUCTIONS ANYWHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FOR US THE PRIORITY IS STILL GONNA BE ON TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS INFLATION THAT WE'RE IN IN THE MARKET, TRYING TO DO A MINIMUM ADJUSTMENT, AT LEAST TO, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP UP TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, BUT WE ARE GONNA TRY TO DO AT LEAST A STEP ADJUSTMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THE STATE IS KILLING US WITH THE 7%, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HOUSE AND SENATE VERSION AND 5% FOR STATE AND CONSTITUTIONALS AND SOQ FUNDED POSITION.
SO I, I DON'T SEE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GO THAT HIGH THIS YEAR.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME THAT IN THERE IS A BIT OF CRITICALITY WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE AND EMS AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOME KEY POSITIONS.
AND SO IF THERE'S A WAYS FOR US TO WORK THOSE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FOR, FOR THIS COMING BUDGET.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, THE, THE, THE END RESULT TONIGHT IS TAX RATE.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE PREPARED TO DO, BUT WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH AND SHOW YOU THE, THIS INFORMATION TONIGHT IS TO SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD KEEP THE, THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATES THE SAME AS YOU DID LAST YEAR FOR 2022.
UM, NOW ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU CAN ADVERTISE HIGHER AND GO LOWER.
YOU JUST CAN'T GO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAD A FLOOD OF PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AND SAID, HEY, I REALLY WISH THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE FUNDED TO SUPPORT X, YOU COULDN'T GO HIGHER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO LOWER.
SO IF WE, WE ADVERTISE THE SAME TAX RATE STRUCTURE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY IT WOULD BE AT NOT AT 90%, IT WOULD BE BACK AT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND IT WOULD STILL STAY AT THE SAME TAX RATE AT FOUR 60 BASED ON A-P-P-T-R RATE OF 33.
33 33, IT'S THE 34, THE SHIFT.
SO IT WOULD GO TO 33 IF YOU DIDN'T CHANGE YOUR VEHICLES LIKE KEVIN MASSEN GO, IF YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THEN YOUR OVERALL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, BILL SHOULD BE COMING DOWN FROM WHERE YOU WERE LAST YEAR.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING BACK TO A HUNDRED PERCENT NOW, TO YOUR POINT, MS. STEVENS, THERE COULD BE BOATS AND RVS AND OTHER THINGS, AND IF YOU TRADED AND CHANGED, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE.
BUT IN GENERAL, WHEN WE TALKED LAST YEAR, YOU KNEW EVEN WHEN YOU REDUCED IT BY 15 CENTS AND DID IT AT 90%, WE KNEW THAT MOST, MOST TAXPAYERS WERE STILL, STILL GONNA PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, IT WAS EITHER WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA GET BIT BY A PIT BULL OR GET BIT BY A CHIHUAHUA.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, I I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE SOMEWHAT OF A REDUCTION OVERALL AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A NOT AS HEALTHY AS WE NORMALLY HAVE INCREASE WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONAL PROPERTY.
BUT THE UNDERSTANDING FOR THE BOARD, THIS IS THE TIME.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE THE SAME TAX RATES, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO TELL US.
I, AND AGAIN, IF, IF YOU WOULD WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT NOW DEVELOP A TAX RATE.
THE HEARING AGAIN IS ON THE 11TH AND THE EXPECTATION IS YOU VOTE THAT NIGHT AND 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO GET TAX TICKETS, UM, PRODUCED AND SENT OUT.
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RIGHT.ANY COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S HARD TO ASK THE PUBLIC FOR MORE MONEY IN THE INFLATIONARY TIME THAT WE'RE IN.
AND I KNOW COUNTY HAS NEEDS, I RECOGNIZE THAT TOO.
AND WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF, OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO US THAT ARE GONNA JUST RELATED TO JUST INFLATION CONTRACTS IN PARTICULAR.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S HARD TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN THAT ALL OF US SHOP AT THE GROCERY STORE.
THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL? WE GOOD.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE ADS PREPARED AND THEY'LL BE PUTTING THE PAPER IN THE HEARING ON THE 11TH IN ACTION AFTER THAT HEARING.
I GUESS THERE'S ONLY ONE THING LEFT ON THE AGENDA, MR. CHAIR.
MR. JARMAN, WE GET ONE, ONE NOT TO SPOIL THE FUND, BUT THE MR. TAYLOR WAS APPOINTED TO AN AIRPORT AUTHORITY POSITION THROUGH I BELIEVE 2 25 28 AND AIRPORT AUTHORITY DOES HAVE THREE YEAR TERMS. SO I THINK THAT REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN 2 25 26.
SO IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO JUST CORRECT THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
NOW MOVE FOR JOHN SECOND ROLL CALL.
RAGSDALE 10:00 AM TO SOMEWHERE AROUND 10:00 AM TOMORROW.
AND HOW LONG WE GONNA BE THERE, KEVIN? 1 1 30.