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          OKAY. 
          GOOD 
          [1. ROLL CALL]
AFTERNOON EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE APRIL 11TH WORKSHOP OF THE DENWOODY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          CAN WE GET ROLL CALL MR. CHAVIS? MR. LEE? HERE. 
          MS. EBRA BONNER? HERE. 
          MR. MOODY? HERE. 
          DR. MOORE HERE. 
          FOUR BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS AFTERNOON WE'VE GOT SOME REPORTS. 
          AND FIRST UP ON, UH, 
          [2.A. Brightpoint Community College]
THE AGENDA IS FROM BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND WE'VE GOT DR. 
          VAN WILSON, THE INTERIM PRESIDENT, AND DR. 
          BILL FI FIGGY, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LEARNING AND STUDENT SUCCESS. 
          WELCOME, GENTLEMEN. 
          WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE US COME AND, AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE MADE ON OUR STUDENTS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, LET ME GET BEGIN BY SAYING THAT, UH, MY NAME IS VAN WILSON AND I'M SERVING AS THE INTERIM PRESIDENT OF THE COLLEGE. 
          UH, A COMMITMENT THAT I'VE MADE TO SUPPORT THE INSTITUTION WHILE IT SEARCHES FOR DR. 
          TED'S RAS BILLER'S, UH, REPLACEMENT. 
          UH, THE FIRST THING I WANNA TELL YOU TODAY IS BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS YOUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 
          AND WE THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          UM, AFTER ALMOST 40 YEARS OF BEING IN HIGHER EDUCATION, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE NOT WORKED WITH A FACULTY, A STAFF, OR A COMMUNITY THAT'S MORE COMMITTED TO STUDENT SUCCESS. 
          ALSO, I'D BE A LITTLE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT WE, WE BOUGHT OUR TEAM WITH US TODAY. 
          YOU'LL HEAR FROM, UM, DR. 
          BILL FIGY IN A MOMENT. 
          HE'S OUR VICE PRESIDENT FOR LEARNING AND STUDENT SUCCESS. 
          I WANT HIM TO SHARE SOME DATA POINTS WITH YOU ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT YOUR CONTRIBUTION MAKES TO THE COLLEGE. 
          THE OTHER THING IS I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU FOR MORAL SUPPORT. 
          WE HAVE, UM, FRED, UH, TAYLOR WITH US, WHO IS OUR, UM, GOVERNMENTAL DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. 
          AND, AND FRED'S BEEN A VICE PRESIDENT PRIOR WITH US FOR, FOR OVER A, A DECADE AND BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF THE, THE BUDGET. 
          THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD SAY BEFORE I ASK DR. 
          FIGGY TO COME TO THE PODIUM IS THIS, IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR ME TO BE BACK HOME. 
          UM, YOU DON'T KNOW THIS ABOUT ME, BUT I GREW UP AT THE INTERSECTION OF A 40 AND ONE AT DAIRY FREEZE. 
          UM, AS A YOUNG MAN, MY MOTHER WAS RAISED BY HER OLDER SISTER IN MCKINNEY, VIRGINIA, SO I KNOW THAT AREA, UM, QUITE WELL. 
          I HOPE THAT AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU'LL FEEL FREE TO ENGAGE US. 
          WE'VE GOT THE TEAM HERE TO ANSWER THEM. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO DR. 
          VICKI, BILL. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, DR. WILSON. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. 
          GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. 
          UH, TODAY. 
          IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. 
          I'VE, UH, FINISHED MY 11TH YEAR AS A CHIEF ACADEMIC OFFICER AT THE INSTITUTION. 
          AND, UH, TODAY, JUST WANNA SHARE SOME STATS. 
          LET'S SEE IF I DID IT THE CORRECT WAY HERE. 
          IS THERE A SPOT WHERE I CAN, I MIGHT KNOW AND IF NOT, THEN I CAN. 
          AND IT COULD BE USER ERROR . 
          SO, UM, TO BE VERY CLEAR, BUT I THINK I CAN CHECK THAT. 
          GIMME TWO SECONDS. 
          YOU'RE FINE. 
          WELL, I'LL GO AND GET STARTED. 
          UM, MY BACKGROUND IS, IS SPEECH COMMUNICATION. 
          SO I'VE LEARNED ALWAYS BE SURE TO HAVE BACKUP PLAN. 
          THAT'S WHAT I TELL MY STUDENTS, SO I MADE SURE TO DO THAT MYSELF. 
          SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THE FIRST COUPLE SLIDES. 
          BASICALLY JUST SOME DATA POINTS. 
          WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. 
          OUT OF THE 23 COMMUNITY COLLEGES, ABOUT 8,500 STUDENTS. 
          UH, LAST FALL, UH, SEMESTER, UH, WE HAD, UH, 253 OF THOSE STUDENTS WERE FROM DENWITTY COUNTY. 
          AND WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS. AND I, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THE 80 PLUS PROGRAMS, NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          I CAN GO READ 'EM ALL TO YOU. 
          UH, BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES AS FAR AS WE HAVE TRANSFER PROGRAMS WHERE STUDENTS CAN GET A TWO YEAR DEGREE AND THEN GO ON TO THE FOUR YEAR INSTITUTION AND, OR, UH, STUDENTS, THEY COULD GO TO WORK. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WE THEN HAVE THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL PROGRAMS, THE APPLIED ASSOCIATE DEGREES, AS WELL AS CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS. UH, THOSE LEAD STUDENTS DIRECTLY TO WORK. 
          UH, THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ABOUT 30% EACH. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL STUDENTS WHO ARE IN THE, I DON'T KNOW, MAJOR, UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          AND OF COURSE, THEY COULD END UP IN AN APPLIED DEGREE. 
          THEY COULD END UP IN AN, IN A DEGREE THAT'S TRANSFER. 
          BUT MANY OF OUR STUDENTS JUST COME 'CAUSE THEY MIGHT NEED ONE CLASS FOR PROMOTION OR TO MOVE INTO, UH, A NEW CAREER, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 
          AS DR. WILSON STATED, WE'RE THE COMMUNITY'S COLLEGE AND WE'RE HERE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS. 
          A PART OF THAT WORK, UH, THAT WE DO. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE ALLIANCE. 
          THAT'S THE WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, J SERGEANT REYNOLDS AND BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 
          AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS PROGRAMS TO MEET SHORT TERM WORKFORCE CREDENTIAL TRAINING AS WELL. 
          UH, PART OF OUR, UH, UH, WORK THAT WE DO IS WORKING WITH YOUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          WE HAVE A ROBUST DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE SAVED THE CITIZENS OF DENWITTY FALL, JUST FALL 2022, $60,900 
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IN TUITION. 
          THEY TOOK 416 DUAL ENROLLMENT CREDITS AT $8 AND 50 CENTS PER CREDIT HOUR. 
          I'D SAY THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL, UH, WHEN OUR NORMAL CREDIT HOUR IS $160, UH, PER CREDIT. 
          UH, WE ALSO, UH, WITH THOSE DUAL ENROLLMENT CLASSES, WE OFFERED JUST BASICALLY THE GENERAL EDUCATION, BUT WE ALSO WORKING AT ANTE HAD STUDENTS WHO, WE HAVE FOUR STUDENTS WHO WERE GONNA GRADUATE THIS MAY, UH, WITH A CREDENTIAL ACTUALLY, BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, OF THOSE STUDENTS. 
          SO THAT'S THE DUAL ENROLLMENT WHERE THE CLASSES ARE OFFERED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE ROBUST, OH, YOU'VE GOT IT UP. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE. 
          I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST ROLLING ALONG. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO, UH, THE CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT PROGRAM IS WHERE STUDENTS TAKE THE CLASSES ON OUR CAMPUS COMING FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND SO WE HAVE 11, UH, STUDENTS THAT ARE IN, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, UH, IN THE INDUSTRIAL, UM, ELECTRICITY WELDING, PRECISION MACHINING, AND MECHANICAL MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. UH, AS FAR AS, UH, DENWITTY GOES, THESE STUDENTS CAN COMPLETE THE CREDENTIAL AND IN FACT, WE'LL HAVE TWO, UH, WHO WILL COMPLETE THIS YEAR, AGAIN, THROUGH TAKING CLASSES ON OUR CAMPUS. 
          UH, OUR JOB, WHAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING TO DO IS TO BUILD THE PATHWAY FOR STUDENTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE STUDENTS GET INTO THE RIGHT COURSES THAT WILL HELP THEM GET THE MAJOR TO COMPLETE WHAT THEIR DESIRED OUTCOME IS. 
          SO WITH THAT, AS PART OF OUR DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM, WHAT WE REALLY DO IS WE WORK WITH STUDENTS TO GET IN THE, INTO A MAJOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE CLASSES THAT WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE FOUR YEAR INSTITUTION OF THEIR CHOICE, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEIR INTENTION IS, AND TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T COUNT AS ELECTIVE CREDIT, BUT THAT IT GOES AS MAJOR CREDIT. 
          WHEN WE DID A, UM, A PILOT WITH A SCHOOL SYSTEM SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE HAD ASSOCIATE DEGREE PROGRAM AND ABOUT 32 STUDENTS WERE IN IT. 
          AND WE REALIZED THAT, UM, OUT OF THE 32, ONLY ONE WAS ABLE TO HAVE ALL OF THEIR CREDITS ACCEPTED FOR TRANSFER. 
          AND SO WE STILL WORK WITH STUDENTS WHO WANT TO GET AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE. 
          WE THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT FOCUSING ON THE COURSES THAT THEY CAN TAKE IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR A VERY GOOD COST, AS WE, UH, DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT THAT WE WORK WITH THOSE STUDENTS TO MAKE SURE THE COURSES THEY TAKE WILL TRANSFER TO THAT FOUR YEAR INSTITUTION AND OR WORK FOR THEIR CAREER OF, OF THEIR CHOICE. 
          SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT US GOVERNMENT OF ACCOUNTABILITY, IT'S A 2017 REPORT, TALKED ABOUT CERTAIN WASTED CREDITS. 
          I DON'T LIKE TO USE THAT TERM WITH FACULTY 'CAUSE THERE ARE NO WASTED CLASSES. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THERE CAN BE WASTED CREDITS, UH, IF STUDENTS DON'T TAKE THE RIGHT PATHWAY. 
          SO BASED ON THESE TYPES OF STATISTICS THAT WE GOT, WE MODIFIED OUR PROGRAM TO WORK WITH STUDENTS. 
          THEY CAN STILL COMPLETE AN ASSOCIATE PROGRAM, UM, BUT WE WANT THEM TO TAKE THE CLASSES THAT WORKS FOR THEIR GOALS, NOT JUST FOR THEM TO FINISH A CREDENTIAL. 
          UM, WE ALSO, UH, FOCUS ON THE STUDENT SUCCESS IS WE HAVE HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE, AND CAREER NAVIGATORS. 
          UH, WHAT THESE NAVIGATORS, UH, DO, AND WE HAVE ONE, UH, HERE AT DWI, A WOMAN NAMED KYLE BILLER IS THE, IS THE, UM, COLLEGE AND CAREER NAVIGATOR HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UH, AND THEY WORK WITH ALL OF THE STUDENTS TO HELP THEM ABOUT CAREER PATHWAYS. 
          THE STUDENT'S INTERESTED IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL, THEY'LL WORK WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALSO CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BRIGHT POINT AND HAVE THEM, UH, UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND BRIGHTPOINT. 
          UH, WE ALSO, WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON OUR STUDENT SERVICES. 
          WE KNOW A LOT OF STUDENTS HAVE GONE TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEN THEY DON'T REMEMBER WHO THEY SAW. 
          AND SO NOW THESE NEW STUDENT NAVIGATORS, WHEN A STUDENT APPLIES, THEY'RE CONNECTED WITH A PERSON WHO NAVIGATES THEM THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, THEN CONNECTING THEM WITH A FACULTY ADVISOR RETENTION SPECIALIST TO HELP WITH STUDENT SUCCESS. 
          WE HAVE A HELP HUB ONE STOP RESOURCES. 
          IF A STUDENT COMES TO CAMPUS, THEY CAN GET HELP WITH ADVISING FINANCIAL, UH, AID AND OTHER STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES. 
          WE ALSO, FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, WE HAVE FREE TUTORING AND CERTAINLY OUR LIBRARY. 
          SO WE REALLY WORK TO PROVIDE A PATHWAY FOR STUDENTS, AS I TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. 
          AND THEN ALSO VERY IMPORTANT IS THE STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES TO HELP ENABLE THEIR SUCCESS. 
          SO THE NEXT, UH, ASPECT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS, IS THE TUITION MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM OR ACTUALLY TO SUPPORT THEM. 
          THE G THREE GET SKILLS, GET A JOB, GET AHEAD. 
          IT'S A LAST DOLLAR FINANCIAL AID PROGRAM AND PROGRAMS OF IT, HEALTHCARE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, EDUCATION, AND SKILLED TRADES, UH, SO THAT STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO REALLY BENEFIT, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THIS GREAT PROGRAM THAT STARTED OVER A YEAR AGO. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FINANCIAL AID OPPORTUNITIES, SCHOLARSHIPS. 
          UH, WE HAVE PAYMENT PLANS FOR STUDENTS, UH, AS WELL AS FOR FAST FORWARD FOR CC TO BA WORKFORCE PROGRAMS OR SCHOLARSHIP MONEY FOR THOSE STUDENTS AS WELL. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE OVER 80 DEGREE IN CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS, OVER 40 COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE ALLIANCE PROGRAMS. AGAIN, TRANSFERRED TO FOUR YEAR INSTITUTIONS. 
          CT PROGRAMS DEVELOPED FOR OUR EMPLOYERS. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. 
          I 
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ACTUALLY MET WITH SOMEBODY TODAY AT LUNCHTIME, A HEALTHCARE SUPPLIER. 
          THEY NEED, UH, A CERTAIN AREA. 
          I DON'T, A LITTLE EMBARGOED, I CAN'T SAY IT YET, BUT THERE'S AN AREA THAT THEY REALLY NEED HELP WITH, AND WE'RE WORKING TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM BECAUSE THAT'S A NEED THAT WILL HELP OUR HEALTHCARE, UH, PARTNER. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT CAREER CLUSTERS THAT WE HAVE, UH, FROM ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, ARCHITECTURE, CONSTRUCTION, SKILLED TRADES AREAS, UH, THAT MR. MASSENGILL'S BROTHER, UH, TEACHES ELECTRICITY. 
          ALAN, ONE OF OUR FANTASTIC, UH, FACULTY MEMBERS. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU WEREN'T HERE, , UH, I PROMISE YOU THAT, UH, THINK THE WORLD OF ALLEN. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR WHICH WE EDUCATE OUR, OUR STUDENTS. 
          UM, ONE THING I WANNA MENTION, UH, HERE AS WELL IS, UH, WE JUST STARTED PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING TECHNICIAN, UH, PROGRAM TO MEET THE BIG NEED THAT WE HAVE IN THIS AREA OF THE COMPANY'S PAC FLOW AND CIVICA. 
          AND SO, UH, WE STARTED A CAREER STUDY CERTIFICATE. 
          UH, ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE COMPLETING THAT PROGRAM ALREADY HAVE JOBS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM AGAIN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO AS YOU TALK ABOUT NEW PROGRAMS, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED IN THE LAST, UH, YEAR, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE ALLIANCE, SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM TO EXPAND DELIVERY OF CLINICAL MEDICAL ASSISTANT AS WELL AS NURSE AID PROGRAMS. HIGH NEED IN OUR AREA AND, UH, IMPORTANT TO THE CRATER REGION. 
          UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY GETTING A BIG TRAILER TRUCK TO TAKE MT ONE TRAINING OUT TO DENWITTY AND OTHER PARTS OF OUR SERVICE AREA. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR. 
          PROCUREMENT, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO GET IT, BUT WHEN WE GET IT, WE'LL BE BRINGING IT, UH, TO, TO THIS COUNTY AND OTHERS IN OUR SERVICE AREA. 
          AND THEN WITH THE TOBACCO COMMISSION GRANT, UH, COMBINES OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDING FOR OUR CCWA, UH, PROGRAMS. FAST FORWARD PROGRAMS. WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FREE TUITION, BOOKS, CERTIFICATIONS, ASSESSMENTS, AS WELL AS INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS FOR THOSE IN THOSE WORKFORCE PRUDENTIAL TRAINING PROGRAMS. SO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE DID A HIGHLIGHT OF ONE OF OUR STUDENTS, HAYDEN BALES, WHO'S A PRECISION MACHINING STUDENT AT BRIGHT POINT RESIDENT OF DENWITTY. 
          UH, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT VIDEO, PLEASE CHECK IT OUT. 
          VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THAT HAYDEN HAS DONE. 
          AND THEN WE, UH, CERTAINLY WANNA APPRECIATE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COLLEGE BOARD AND, UH, DR. WILSON WILL COME UP AND, AND PAY TRIBUTE TO TAMMY. 
          YES, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ME WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, NOT ONLY DO WE THANK YOU FOR BEING AN ACTIVE PARTNER WITH US, BUT ALSO FOR SHARING YOUR TIME WITH THE COLLEGE. 
          AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MS. TAMMY COLLINS FOR HER ENERGY, HER COMMITMENT, AND HER EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE COMMUNITY. 
          HER TERM IS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON OUR COLLEGE BOARD, WHICH SPANS EIGHT YEARS. 
          WILL AND INCLUDE SERVING AS STINT AS A CHAIR WILL END JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, HOWEVER, BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE . 
          UM, WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT SHE HAS AGREED TO REMAIN ON, ON OUR REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION BOARD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WELCOMING A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DENWITTY, UH, COUNTY BOARD TOO, OUR COLLEGE BOARD. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO RESPOND TO THEM OR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE COMMENTS, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'RE JUST DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          YEAH. 
          DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB. 
          A GREAT JOB. 
          WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          I JUST WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH TWO THINGS. 
          NUMBER ONE, YOUR SUPPORT HELPS SUPPORT OVER 70 STUDENTS THAT ATTEND OUR COLLEGE, THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          AND NUMBER TWO, WE ARE TRULY COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PATHWAYS TO SUCCESS FOR EVERY STUDENT. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GOOD JOB. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD. 
          ITEM NUMBER, 
          [2.B. Blackstone Area Bus System (BABS)]
UH, B UNDER REPORTS IS BLACKSTONE AREA BUSINESS SYSTEM, BABS. 
          AND THAT'S WITH, UM, MARY MURPHY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. 
          JUST WANNA GRAB MY SHEET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO START BY SAYING LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I THINK I WAS, UM, LIMITED TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES AND I DID NOT REALIZE THIS WAS A WORKSHOP. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THIS BEING VERY SHORT AND SWEET. 
          UM,  FINE. 
          BUT, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE BLACKSTONE AREA BUS SYSTEM, UM, I AM HERE TO JUST FORMALLY REQUEST, UM, CONTINUED FUNDING FROM THE DENWITTY COUNTY FOR OUR UPCOMING, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          UM, THESE FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED TO HELP, UM, WITH OUR OPERATING EXPENSES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR OUR DENWITY EXPRESS ROUTE, UM, WHICH RUNS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EACH WEEK. 
          UM, AS WE 
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ALL KNOW, WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH INFLATION A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY WE SEE IT IN THE COST OF OUR, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, OPERATING SUPPLIES, UM, JUST EVERYDAY EXPENSES. 
          UM, BUT A LOT WITH OUR MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES. 
          UM, HOWEVER WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF OFFSET THOSE BIGGER EXPENSES, UM, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, MOTOR, ORAL MO, EXCUSE ME, MOTOR OIL TIRES AND, AND FUEL OF COURSE, UM, BY PRIORITIZING AND KIND OF MINIMIZING SOME OF OUR OTHER EXPENSES, UM, TO HELP KEEP THE BOTTOM LINE FIGURE OF OUR OVERALL FY 24, UM, BUDGET FROM INFLATING TOO MUCH. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE, UM, FUNDING FROM YOU ALL. 
          WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR IT TO REMAIN THE SAME AS OUR PREVIOUS REQUEST, UM, WHICH IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $21,200. 
          UM, SO WHILE I'M HERE, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY THANK YOU GUYS AS WELL FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO OUR ORGANIZATION OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, IT'S NOT ONLY APPRECIATED BY US, BUT ALSO WE HAVE, UM, ABOUT 75% OF OUR RIDERSHIP IS DENWITTY COUNTY RESIDENTS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO AND FROM WORK AND DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER ESSENTIAL PLACES, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO BE. 
          UM, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE PERSONAL MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LUXURY TO SOME. 
          UM, BUT YEAH. 
          UM, AND I ALSO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. 
          UM, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, IN OUR FUNDING REQUEST. 
          AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP AND NOT ONLY THIS YEAR, BUT IN YEARS TO COME, HOPEFULLY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ANY QUESTIONS? JUST A COMMENT. 
          YES SIR. 
          I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB UP THERE. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU WITH THE THANK YOU US SERVICE. 
          UM, HAS THE RIDERSHIP INCREASED ANY IN, IN OVERALL OR IN DWI IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, OR IT SO WELL OVER 2020 AND 2021, WE DEFINITELY SAW, UM, SOME DECREASE IN THE RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS OF COURSE PRIMARILY DUE TO, UM, THE LASTING EFFECTS OF COVID, UM, AS WE ALL KNOW. 
          BUT WHEN I WAS DOING THE FIGURES FOR 2022, IT HAD COME UP SINCE THOSE TWO YEARS. 
          UM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY LEVELING OUT TO KIND OF OUR NORMAL PRE COVID YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S DEFINITELY GOOD TO SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU, YOU AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT, TWO C IS 
          [2.C. American Red Cross]
AMERICAN RED CROSS, CHRISTIE CARNE, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS VIRGINIA REGION. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          HOW ARE AFTERNOON Y TODAY? FINE, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          AND THANK Y'ALL AGAIN SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND YOUR SUPPORT. 
          WE ARE VERY HUMBLED AND THANKFUL FOR THAT. 
          AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, WE ARE CONTINUING TO RESPOND TO LOCAL HOME FIRES AND OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS IN AND AROUND THE AREA. 
          UM, ONE OF OUR FIRST FIRES THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR US IN DITY ALONE WAS 10 PEOPLE IN ONE HOME, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, AS THE PREVIOUS PRESENTER MENTIONED, NOT ONLY ARE EV IS EVERYONE ELSE FEELING THE IMPACT OF INFLATION, SO ARE FAMILIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY DISASTER, WHICH IS WHY, UM, ORGANIZATIONALLY WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR DIRECT SPENDING TO OUR CLIENTS BY AN ADDITIONAL 20% OVER WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY GETTING BECAUSE THEIR COST OF RECOVERY IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WAS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE INTERESTING FACTS, ONE OF OUR NEWEST PROGRAMS WE'VE STARTED, AND I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE OUR VOLUNTEER THAT HEADS IS ACTUALLY A DENWITTY RESIDENT. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE FOUND THAT THERE IS A GROWING LATINO POPULATION IN AND AROUND OUR AREA. 
          SO WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED OUR HISPANIC OUTREACH PROGRAM, UM, WHICH HAS DONE REALLY WELL. 
          LIKE THE HOUSE WITH THAT HAD 10 PEOPLE IMPACTED. 
          THEY WERE PRIMARILY SPANISH SPEAKING. 
          AND SO IT'S DONE WONDERS AND GROWN. 
          UM, BUT SUPER PROUD OF OUR LADY THAT'S COORDINATING THAT. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, SHE LIVES IN DAN WITTY, SO I'M LIKE, YAY. 
          UM, SO, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR REGULAR PREPAREDNESS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN THAT WHERE WE TRY TO GO OUT AND SUPPORT AS MANY EVENTS AS WE CAN BY SHARING THAT INFORMATION. 
          I KNOW IN THE PAST YEAR WE WERE AT THE MCKINNEY HUNDREDTH YEAR CELEBRATION, UM, NATIONAL NIGHTS OUT, THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS WHERE WE JUST TRY TO SHARE WHAT WE CAN DO AND THE FREE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING, WE STILL HAVE OUR PILLOWCASE PROGRAM, UM, FOR KIDS THIRD THROUGH FIFTH GRADE, AND THEN THE PAGE PREPARES FOR PRE-K THROUGH SECOND GRADE, WHICH JUST HELPS THEM LEARN WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. 
          AND WE DO OFFER THE FREE HANDS-ONLY CPR, SO IT'S NOT THE FULL CLASS. 
          AND THAT IS, YOU CAN ASK FOR THAT FOR A BIG GROUP, A SMALL GROUP, WE'LL TRAVEL TO YOU AS LONG AS THE KIDS ARE OLD ENOUGH TO DO IT THROUGH SENIOR CITIZENS, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO OUT AND DO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WITHIN OUR 
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DISASTER PROGRAM ITSELF, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT ELSE THAT CAN ENTAIL. 
          IF YOU'VE LOST MEDICINES, IF YOU, WE HAVE DISASTER, SPIRITUAL CARE, DISASTER MENTAL HEALTH, JUST PEOPLE TO HELP YOU KIND OF IDENTIFY WHERE YOUR OTHER RESOURCES ARE. 
          OF COURSE, WE ARE THE BLOOD SUPPLY FOR THE LOCAL HOSPITALS. 
          EVERY HOSPITAL THAT COVERS THIS AREA GETS RED CROSS BLOOD. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, WHERE WE HAVE OUR MILITARY PROGRAMS, BECAUSE SO MANY DWIN RESIDENTS ARE EITHER ACTIVE DUTY OR VETERANS, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE AS WELL FOR ALL OF OUR MILITARY AND VETERAN PROGRAM SUPPORT AS WELL. 
          SO, AND THEN OF COURSE WE ALWAYS HAVE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          IT WAS FUNNY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NURSING PROGRAM. 
          IF WE HAVE YOUTH VOLUNTEERS THAT ENTER INTO NURSING PROGRAMS, THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME NATIONAL SCHOLARSHIPS THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR IF THEY COME IN THROUGH US. 
          SO IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG VARIETY OF PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN OFFER. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. 
          NO. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO, IF ANY OF YOU ARE DOWN IN THE PETERSBURG AREA, WE DID MOVE OFFICES AND BECAUSE OF, WE MOVED ABOUT TWO DOORS DOWN. 
          AND BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW ABLE TO HOST FIRST AID AND CPR CLASSES ACTUALLY IN OUR OFFICES. 
          SO PEOPLE CAN GO FIVE MILES DOWN THE ROAD INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TRAVEL FURTHER FOR THEM. 
          UM, AND WE'RE HOSTING BLOOD DRIVES IN THERE AND OUR NEXT BLOOD DRIVE WILL BE JULY 6TH. 
          IT'S A PATRIOTIC HERO'S THEME. 
          SO, AND WHAT IS THAT FISCAL LOCATION? UH, IT'S 32 WEST WASHINGTON STREET. 
          32 WEST WASHINGTON. 
          IT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER AT THE BUS STATION. 
          YEAH, IT WAS THE FREEDOM SUPPORT CENTER UP UNTIL TODAY. 
          THAT'S FIRST WALK. 
          I GOTCHA. 
          EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE EXACTLY. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION. 
          THAT'S GOOD LOCATION. 
          THAT IS GREAT. 
          AND THERE'S PARKING IN THE BACK. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY SIGNS UP FOR THE BLOOD DRIVE OR THE FIRST AID CLASS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE ARE HOSTING THE FIRST LOCAL, UM, DISASTER SHELTER DRILL FOR ALL OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS AND LOCAL RESPONDERS IN THERE ON APRIL 29TH. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT WITH THAT BIGGER TRAINING SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN UP LOCALLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          YEP. 
          GREAT JOB. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON. 
          YOU GOOD JOB. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT, UH, ITEM 2D 
          [2.D. Proposed FY 2024 Budget And Capital Improvement Plan]
AND THAT IS THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNED. 
          AND I THINK MYSELF AND MR. LEE, TWO STATEMENTS HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, TO READ. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU GOT YOURS? YEP. 
          MR. LEE, IF YOU'LL GO FIRST. 
          ALRIGHT, ALL READY. 
          AT THE APRIL 11TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE DEITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, IMMEDIATE INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET FOR DEITY COUNTY. 
          I INTEND TO VOTE ON THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATE. 
          THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS APPROPRIATED TO THE DENWITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE ITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          THE BUDGET MAY AFFECT ALL SCHOOL BOARD EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY, AND I AM ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY. 
          AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          I AM EMPLOYED BY THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHICH HAS AN ADDRESS OF 13,009 15 BORDEN FLANK ROAD, DENWOODY, VIRGINIA 2 3 8 4 1. 
          DUE TO MY EMPLOYMENT WITH THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD. 
          AND I'LL READ MY STATEMENT AT THE APRIL 11TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE DE WITTY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          I MARK E. MOORE, INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET FOR DE WITTY COUNTY. 
          I INTEND TO VOTE ON THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATE. 
          THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS APPROPRIATED TO THE DE WITTY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE DE WITTY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          THE MU BUDGET MAY AFFECT ALL SCHOOL BOARD EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY, AND I AM ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          MR. MASSENGILL, GOOD JOB. 
          GOOD NEWS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THAT TOO MANY MORE TIMES  CLOSE TO THE END OF THE OVERALL PROCESS. 
          SO, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE BOARD, WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY, UH, IS GET YOU PREPARED FOR YOUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IN REGARDS TO ESTABLISHING THE TAX RATES FOR THE, FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023. 
          UM, AND THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU REALLY CAN GET A GOOD FEEL FOR THAT IS FOR ME TO, TO GO OVER WHERE WE ARE AT THE DRAFT LEVEL OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROPOSED FY 
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24 BUDGET. 
          SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAD YOUR BUDGET ADVANCE ON THE 15TH, 16TH, 17TH IN MARCH. 
          THERE WERE, UM, CONVERSATIONS AT THE VERY END OF THAT, OF WHICH STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND WHATNOT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH AS A COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND IF YOU, WHAT I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF TALK THROUGH TODAY WAS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, JUST EVERYTHING ALL IN, UM, AND YOU LOOKED AT YOUR OPERATING BUDGET AND, UH, AND THOSE TRANSFERS, AGAIN, THAT TOTAL, TOTAL FUND, YOU, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT JUST AT WHAT WAS REQUESTED OF YOU ON THAT 15TH, 16TH, AND 17TH AND ROUND MATH, ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAD THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          SIX AND A HALF MILLION MORE. 
          UM, AND IF YOU REMEMBER ABOUT 2.8 MILLION OF THAT, NEARLY 3 MILLION OF THAT WAS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          THEN WE HAD OPERATIONAL INCREASES AND WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT $1.6 MILLION JUST IN INFLATION UTILITY INCREASES CONTRACTS THAT WERE GOING UP AND COUNTLESS NEW INITIATIVES THAT THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED. 
          OVER THAT THREE DAYS. 
          YOU HAD ABOUT 1.2 MILLION ANN WRIGHT IN NEW POSITIONS THAT, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, MEHERON RIVER REGIONAL JAIL AUTHORITY. 
          WE WERE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE THERE POTENTIALLY UP TO $500,000. 
          AND THEN YOU HAD A REASSESSMENT THAT YOU NEEDED TO PAY FOR AT, AT ABOUT $400,000. 
          SO IF YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAME BACK THE NEXT NEXT WEEK AND WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, AND WE WERE HOPEFUL TO BE AROUND $1.3 MILLION IN, IN NEW REVENUE. 
          SO SIX AND A HALF MILLION OF REQUESTS, 1.3 MILLION IN, IN NEW REVENUE. 
          SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SAT DOWN PRETTY QUICKLY AS A STAFF AND STARTED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. 
          UM, SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, AND I WILL SAY UPFRONT, I MEAN WE'RE, UH, MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GIVE YOU A BALANCED BUDGET. 
          MS. HOWERTON, MYSELF HAVE ALREADY WORKED ON, ON TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE AND WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY UNDER $50,000 AT THIS POINT TO BALANCE IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO YOU CAN TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A SIGH OF RELIEF TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS BAD AS THIS LOOKS, SIX AND A HALF MILLION WORTH OF REQUEST, 1,000,003 COMING IN, WE'RE ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, WITHIN 50,000 PROBABLY A BALANCE. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY IN MUCH IN ESSENCE BALANCED. 
          AND BY THE TIME YOU HAVE YOUR HEARING ON THE BUDGET, WE WILL BE, UH, EVEN NEXT WEEK WHEN WE MEET, WE, WE WILL BE. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO WALK, WALK YOU THROUGH. 
          SO WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET? YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAD, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AT A MINIMUM TRYING TO LOOK AT DOING A STEP ADJUSTMENT. 
          AND SO WE, AND THAT WAS FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES, OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS THAT WE SUPPORT AND SOCIAL SERVICES AT LEAST BE ABLE TO DO A 2.37% INCREASE. 
          UM, SO WE, WE HAVE THAT PRESENTLY IN THE BUDGET. 
          NOW, WE'LL TELL YOU, IN LOOKING AT THE REGION, UM, I DON'T, I, MOST OF THE REGION IS TRYING TO DO 5% AND WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I WANT THIS TO BE IN A REALLY COLLABORATIVE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST, JUST ASK ALONG THE WAY. 
          UM, BUT WE, WHEN WE DID THE SALARY SURVEY A FEW YEARS BACK, WHAT WE REALLY HOPED IS THAT WE COULD, TO COMPLETE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPRESSION ISSUE THAT WE WERE HAVING WOULDN'T COME BACK. 
          AGAIN. 
          YOU AT LEAST GOTTA MAKE THAT STEP ADJUSTMENT EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD TO LOOK AT IMMEDIATELY JUST CUTTING, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL INCREASE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INFLATION, WE HAD SOME OTHER OPERATING INCREASES. 
          AND SO THE WAY WE WE TACKLED THAT WAS TO GO BACK INTO THE BUDGET AND SAY, OKAY, WELL ALL THESE INCREASES ARE GOING UP. 
          WE GOTTA FIND WAYS INTERNALLY TO CUT SOME THINGS. 
          SO WE, WE, WE DID DO A LOT OF CUTTING JUST IN GENERAL OPERATING WAYS. 
          UM, WHAT ALSO IS NEW TO THE BUDGET IS, UM, SOME INVESTMENTS INTO SOME NEW POSITIONS. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU UPFRONT THAT, THAT IN A REVENUE YEAR AS BLEAK AS THIS ONE, TYPICALLY THESE NEW POSITIONS WOULDN'T BE FUNDED. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS PRETTY COMPELLING TO ME, UM, AND TO STAFF, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW THE STAFFING REPORT THAT CHIEF HALE GAVE YOU HAD THE SHERIFF COME IN AFTER THAT, TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR A COUPLE NEW DEPUTIES. 
          UM, WE DO KNOW THAT, THAT IT'S, THESE ARE HARD TO FILL TYPE POSITIONS THESE DAYS. 
          UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IF IT GETS FUNDED, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET RECRUITMENTS AND INTO THESE POSITIONS. 
          BUT IF THE MOMENT WE, WE 
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DO HAVE THE FIRE AND EMS STAFFING FIRST PHASE OF THAT PLAN IMPLEMENTED. 
          NOW WHAT MS. HOWERTON DID AND, AND CHIEF HALE WAS TO, TO LOOK, INSTEAD OF DOING A, A FULL YEAR'S WORTH OF FUNDING, AND REALISTICALLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA HIRE, EVEN IF WE GET APPROVAL, WE'RE NOT GONNA HIRE EVERYBODY COME JULY ONE. 
          SO WE, WE BACKED, INSTEAD OF BEING A 12 MONTH EMPLOYEE, IT WOULD BE 10 MONTH. 
          SO YOU HAVE 10 MONTHS OF FUNDING FOR FY 24. 
          NOW IN FY 25, YOU HAVE 12 MONTHS THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE INCLUDED 10 MONTHS OF SALARY FOR THE NEW FIRE AND EMS POSITIONS THAT ARE THERE. 
          THERE'S NINE OF THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH THE REQUEST. 
          THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD TWO NEW DEPUTIES AND SOME UPGRADES IN, IN SOME OF THEIR POSITIONS, TWO OF THOSE BEING PROMOTED, I BELIEVE. 
          UM, SO WE, WE LOOKED AT THE TWO NEW POSITIONS AND THE TWO NEW POSITIONS AND THE, THE ASSOCIATED, UM, VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE JOBS, UH, ARE, ARE IN, IN THE BUDGET. 
          WE HAD A PLANNER POSITION THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE, WE'VE KEPT THAT IN THE BUDGET WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN BEING IMPLEMENTED AND ALL THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AND THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS UPS AND IN THROUGHOUT THE, THE SALARY PIECE THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT AT A LATER DATE. 
          BUT REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR OPERATIONS WERE LAST YEAR WILL BE WHAT YOUR OPERATIONS ARE THIS YEAR IN FY 24, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT STEP ADJUSTMENT AND TRYING TO GET THESE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS IN THAT PLANNER POSITION. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THE BUDGET REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH FROM WHAT YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO. 
          SO WHAT WASN'T FUNDED? WELL, THE FIRST PIECE, I'VE GOT A MEETING WITH THE MEHERON RIVER REGIONAL JAIL AUTHORITY. 
          YOU KNOW, I, IT'S, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO SERVE AS ITS CHAIR. 
          WE HAVE A FINANCE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, ON MONDAY, UM, NEXT WEEK. 
          AND SO WE'LL BE TALKING TO THEM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT, AT THE BUDGET MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, NEARLY 53 VACANCIES AT, AT THAT FACILITY. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A LOT OF VACANCY SAVINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE FISCAL YEARS. 
          NOW THAT COINCIDES WITH THE DECREASE IN INMATE POPULATION, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. 
          BUT, UH, THE OTHER PART OF IT, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A LARGER SALARY BUDGET, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE POSITION. 
          SO WE KEEP PUTTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO OUR RESERVES, UM, WHICH WE'RE NEARLY OPERATING AND WITH A FULL YEAR OF, OF RESERVES OPERATING IN RESERVES. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, TOO, TOO HIGH AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          SO PART OF MY ARGUMENT BACK TO THE AUTHORITY IS TO WORK WITH BOTH, UM, MECKLENBURG AND BRUNSWICK COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT BACKING OFF ON HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, WHICH I THINK BRUNSWICK AND MECKLENBURG AGREE. 
          SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE, UM, A POSITIVE RETURN BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SOME MONEY AWAY FOR THEIR BAD DAY. 
          AND FOR US, WE ARE HOPING TO BREAK EVEN. 
          UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MEHERON AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THE REASSESSMENT, SO THE REASSESSMENTS 400,000, SO THAT, THAT $400,000, AND IT'S NOT UNARY OR WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, IS TO USE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. 
          IT'S NOT A REOCCURRING OPERATING EXPENSE AS, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER WANT YOU TO USE, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME, ONE TIME DOLLARS FOR REOCCURRING OPERATING. 
          BUT WE, WE HAVE IN THE PAST USED ONE TIME FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE REASSESSMENT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE ABOUT $400,000 THIS YEAR THAT WOULD COME OUTTA YOUR FUND BALANCE TO, UM, A YEAR END MONEY TO, TO PAY FOR THAT REASSESSMENT. 
          AND ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT 400,000 IS, IS, IT'S A BIG PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE LOOKING AT MAKING ANOTHER INVESTMENT, UM, TO FINISH THAT. 
          AND SO WE WOULD START THE PROCUREMENT THIS YEAR AND GET THAT PER THAT COMPANY ON BOARD OVER THE SUMMER. 
          UM, EXISTING SERVICES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          AGAIN, WE HAD TO REALIGN OUR SPENDING IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          WE'VE DONE THAT. 
          SO WE HAD TO ELIMINATE QUITE A BIT TO, OF SOME THINGS TO JUST KEEP THINGS IN BALANCE, UM, OUTTA STATE TRAVEL. 
          WE ELIMINATE IT. 
          AND AGAIN, IN, IN TOUGH FISCAL YEARS, IT'S HARD FOR US TO JUSTIFY GOING, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE COMMONWEALTH TO, FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING. 
          SO WE, WE MADE THOSE TYPES OF ADJUSTMENTS. 
          THIS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE, UH, INTERNAL CAPITAL. 
          THERE WERE, UM, CERTAIN VEHICLES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT REPLACING. 
          WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY NOT BE REPLACED AT THIS TIME. 
          THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO DRIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
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UM, SO THERE WAS SOME SPECIFIC ONES THERE THAT WE HAD TO DO. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES, QUITE HONESTLY, WAS TO LEVEL TO THE DECISION TO LEVEL FUND THE DEITY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S A, AS DR WESTON INDICATED, THIS WAS A BUDGET, SHE FELT LIKE IT WAS HER RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL YOU WHAT SHE NEEDED. 
          UH, THAT $2.8 MILLION MORE WHEN THE COUNTY ITSELF DIDN'T GROW BY ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, UH, WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR, FOR THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S 2.8 MILLION, YOU KNOW, WAS ABLE TO, UM, I GUESS HELP MOVE FORWARD TO GET TO THE BALANCE BUDGET. 
          SO THE FINAL DECISIONS, CERTAIN FINAL DECISIONS WILL POTENTIALLY FINANCIAL DECISIONS WILL IMPACT WHETHER THE BUDGET STAYS BALANCED OR NOT. 
          AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE, I LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION TODAY. 
          IF YOU, AND ESPECIALLY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, IF I GET TO MONDAY'S MEETING OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE JAIL BUDGET CAN'T EQUALIZE. 
          SO INSTEAD OF US BEING LEVEL WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, AND AGAIN, IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THESE NEW POSITIONS AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THE STEP ADJUSTMENT THAT WE DID, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND FIND CUTS TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT, RIGHT? BUT IF I GO ANY FURTHER, LET'S SAY THAT THE JAIL BUDGET COMES BACK AT 250,000 INSTEAD OF 500,000, WELL THAT'S 250,000 OF MORE CUTS THAT I'LL HAVE TO MAKE. 
          IF IT'S THE FULL 500, IT'S $500,000 IN CUTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. 
          SO WHILE WE MAY BE BALANCED OR CLOSE TO BALANCING TODAY, THAT COULD GET WORSE IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TO MAKE THAT BETTER. 
          UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE STEP ADJUSTMENT. 
          THE STEP ADJUSTMENT IS THAT 2.37%, WHILE AGAIN, MOST OF THE REGION IS LOOKING AT FIVE TO 7%. 
          UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET, I'LL HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH SOME OF THE AREA MANAGERS, ADMINISTRATORS TO FEEL FOR WHERE THIS IS. 
          SO ASK MS. HAMILTON JUST TO RUN THE NUMBERS AND SAY, WELL, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO GET TO 5%, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST US TO GO THAT MUCH HIGHER? UH, TO DO THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER $300,000 MORE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH TO GET THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO 5%. 
          SO, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 300 IN AN ANN, SO ANOTHER 3 0 9 I BELIEVE IT IS FOR THE TOTAL, IT ACTUALLY GOES UP, WE'VE GOT WITH THE NEW POSITIONS AND OTHER THINGS. 
          SO IT'S, IT WOULD GO UP AT 314,000 OR SO IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT. 
          SO IF YOU, YOU ALL SAID TODAY, KEVIN, WE WE REALLY WANT TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE THAN JUST THE STEP ADJUSTMENT. 
          WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT GETTING CLOSER TO 5%. 
          I WOULD NEED TO IMMEDIATELY GO BACK AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. 
          AND MOST PROBABLY THE, THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEW POSITIONS AND SEE IF SOME OF THOSE COULDN'T BE FUNDED. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE SOME OF THOSE OR LOOK BACK AT SOME ADDITIONAL OPERATING, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S THAT MUCH MORE OPERATING THAT CAN BE CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GETTING THAT, THAT TO ALIGNMENT. 
          UM, SO, BUT THAT COULD CHANGE, RIGHT? SO THE JAIL, ANOTHER ISSUE. 
          THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN THE 2.37. 
          AND THEN LASTLY IT WOULD BE, AGAIN, THIS WAS A TOUGH CUT ON MY SIDE 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, WHERE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO, TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, BUT MY RECOMMENDED BUDGET'S GONNA BE LEVEL FUNDING. 
          IF YOU ALL CAME IN AND SAID, KEVIN, I I REALLY THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DO MORE TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR THAT, THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK ON THE COUNTY SIDE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE IT. 
          AND THIS IS ALL PREDICATED, AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THAT TONIGHT AFTER YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, YOU DECIDE TO KEEP ALL THE TAX RATES THE SAME. 
          AND IF YOU WERE TO FOR SOME REASON DECIDE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE TODAY, THIS EXPONENTIALLY WOULD HAVE A COINCIDING EFFECT TO THAT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO, UM, AND I KNOW Y'ALL, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PLEASURE YET TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET LINE BY LINE. 
          I'LL GIVE MY PRESENTATION AT THE, THE MEETING, UH, MAY 2ND MEETING WHERE I ACTUALLY HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT. 
          BUT THESE ARE SOME PRETTY BIG ISSUES, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE, WE WERE AT SIX AND A HALF MILLION. 
          I TOLD ANN AND, AND TAMMY AND DENNIS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW BUDGETS TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS AND THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE, THE TOP FOUR OR FIVE, UH, TOUGHEST BUDGETS THAT WE'VE EVER HAD TO, TO DO. 
          UM, AND THERE, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION THAT'S NEEDED. 
          I WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU AS THE BOARD FIRST. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, AFTER TODAY 
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SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DR. 
          WESTON ON THE IMPACTS OF WHAT THIS MEANS TO HER. 
          UM, AND O OBVIOUSLY CAN REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU ALL AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE BALANCED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THE JAIL, WHAT YOU MIGHT WANNA DO WITH SCHOOLS AND WHAT YOU MIGHT WANNA DO WITH SALARIES. 
          WE PUT US FURTHER OUT OF BALANCE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE, THE FY 24 PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WILL AT LEAST GIVE YOU AN IDEA TONIGHT THAT IF YOU WERE TO ADOPT THE SAME TAX RATE, YOU STILL HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE MEANS OF WHERE THE COUNTY IS AT THE MOMENT, RIGHT? SO ANY, ANY CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT THIS POINT? UM, MR. , THERE'S A QUESTION THAT, DO WE HAVE THE NUMBER THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO GET FROM THE STATE YET? UH, NOT YET. 
          AND IF YOU FOLLOWED ANY IN THE NEWSPAPER, MR. MOODY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE EARLIEST THAT THE HOUSE AND SENATE'S GONNA COME TOGETHER FOR WOULD BE JUNE. 
          UM, THEY'VE COME BACK TODAY. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE COME BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AS IT BEING AS LATE AS JUNE NOW THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. 
          UM, YOU GOTTA STOP TO THINK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT TEACHERS USUALLY GET CONTRACTS IN, IN MAY, UM, WITH A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, QUICK TURNAROUND ON THAT. 
          DO YOU KNOW THE RANGE IS TALKING ABOUT? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RANGE WAS. 
          YEAH, SO IF, IF THE, IF THE SENATE VERSION PASSED, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS LIKE A WAS WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS MORE FUNDING THAT WOULD COME IN AND DO YOU REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 1,000,007 MILLION EIGHT OF THE 2.8 WOULD BALLPARK WOULD COME IN. 
          UM, AND I WANNA SAY ON THE HOUSE SIDE THAT IT WAS A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE, BUT IT WAS NOWHERE NEAR AS, UM, AS DESIRABLE AS THE, AS THE SENATE SIDE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THAT. 
          AND ONE THING TO THINK THROUGH TOO, AND THIS IS WHY DR. 
          WESTON, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO THINGS IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A, A 2.37% FOR THE COUNTY WORKFORCE, WHICH AGAIN INCLUDES ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THE COUNTY DIRECT STAFF, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE STATE SUPPORTED POSITIONS LIKE, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES, THEN I THINK WE, WE'D REALLY NEED TO GET A GOOD FEEL FOR, FROM DR. 
          WESTIN WHAT SHE'S PLANNING ON DOING, IF SHE WAS TO BE LEVEL FUNDED, WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO WITH HER EMPLOYEES, UM, ON HER SIDE. 
          IS SHE ABLE TO DO THE TWO? IS SHE GONNA BE LOOKING AT GOING TO FIVE? KEEPING IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS STATE FUNDS TO MATCH UP TO FACTORS. 
          WELL, AND HER, HER BUDGET IS BUILT ON 5% AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          UM, HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER ANYBODY IS ENTERTAINING AS SEVEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. 
          I THINK MOST SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE HAVING THE SAME TYPE OF ISSUE AS THE COUNTY DEITY COUNTY IS, EXCEPT IT'S ODDLY STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE MORE DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LARGER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE SEEM TO HAVE A EASIER WAY OF TRYING TO GET UP TO SEVEN, WHICH I KNOW FOR YOU ALL VERY ACTIVE IN VACO, IT, IT IS GONNA END UP CREATING AN INEQUITY BETWEEN WHO CAN AFFORD TO USE THE STATE'S MONEY VERSUS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO USE THE STATE'S MONEY AND BEING ABLE TO MATCH UP TO THAT, THAT 7%. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND EDUCATION, I THINK IT'S CREATING A FURTHER DIVIDE BETWEEN THE RURAL LOCALITIES, THE TRANSITIONAL COMMUNITIES LIKE DENWOODY AND, AND THE MORE DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES, SOME OF YOUR BIGGER ONES IN THE, IN, IN THE COMMONWEALTH. 
          UM, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION, UM, AND I MENTIONED THIS IN THE, UM, IN THE THREE DAY, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, DID WE PUT SOME FORMAL RAISE FOR THEM? YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT MORE. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THERE NOW. 
          IT'S NOT NOW I KNOW FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE, WE HAVE ADJUSTED PAY FOR THE BOARD, DON'T WE? AND AS FAR AS THAT WAS IN THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS SECTION, BUT I KNOW AS FAR AS YOUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE INTENDED TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I JUST BASICALLY A REMINDER AND, AND RIGHT NOW I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S KIND OF, UM, HAVE MENTIONED THAT. 
          SO IF, IF MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AGREED, YOU KNOW, WELL I THINK WE HAVE, I'VE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT THEY, IF, IF WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT, WE WANT TO DO THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND IT DOES. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THIS 
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IS THE YEAR TO, LIKE YOU SAY, TO DO A LOT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A SIGN THAT WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SO IT DOESN'T COST A WHOLE LOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IN THE BIG, BIG SCHEME OF THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I WILL TELL YOU, WE'VE GOT A FEW THAT ARE SOME LARGER, LARGER INCREASES THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE SHOWING THAT BEING FUNDED, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW ON SOME OF THOSE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE COMING BACK SAYING WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT IF WE'RE APPROPRIATE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS LEFT WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS COMING IN AND, AND REALLY WE, WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITHOUT THESE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THESE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED, THEY'RE NEEDED. 
          UM, SO WE'RE AT LEAST MAINTAINING WHERE WE ARE. 
          SOME OF THEM THAT ARE ASKED FOR INCREASES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES. 
          BUT KNOW THE GOAL IS TO AT LEAST TRY TO MAINTAIN WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE TWO. 
          MR JUST TO COMMENT THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE SALARY IS FOR DEN WITTY, BUT JUST FIGURING IT'S 50,000, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT HIGH OR NOT, BUT THE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE A MONTH, UH, THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE. 
          OF COURSE YOU GOTTA TAKE TAXES AND ALL THAT, BUT IF SO, IF IT'S FIVE, IT'D BE GETTING 200. 
          SO, BUT WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, IT'S A LOT OF IT'S, IT'S A HIGHER NUMBER. 
          IT IS COUNTY IT, UM, AND IT'S SOME, IT'S STILL SOMETHING I THINK IF, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE WERE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING REGARDLESS OF GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, TRYING TO, TO GO HIGHER THAN TWO OR 3%, AND LIKE ANN TOLD YOU THEIR BUDGET IS BUILT ON FIVE, IF THEY STICK TO THE FIVE, THEN I WILL FEEL MORE COMPELLED TO WANT TO TRY TO COME BACK AND TRY TO MATCH THAT FIVE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TWO POINT, I MEAN IF THE 2.8 MILLION NOT BEING FUNDED, WHAT IMPLICATION THAT MAY HAVE ON THEIR SALARY BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALL FIRST BEFORE HAVING A, A CONVERSATION WITH HER. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, IF, IF, IF THE THE PHILOSOPHY IS DIFFERENT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. 
          THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE HEADED IF YOU DON'T WANT A LEVEL FUND. 
          BUT QUITE HONESTLY, WHEN WE GOT TO CUTTING EVERYTHING WE COULD OUTTA THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT WERE INCREASING JUST TO SUPPORT WHERE WE ARE WITH SOME OF THESE NEW, I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE ADEQUATELY FUNDING FIRE AND EMS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DELIVERY OF EMERGENCY SERVICES THERE AND SOME OF THE, THE SHERIFF'S POSITIONS, IT IS JUST GOT GOT, IT'S GOTTA BE FUNDED THIS YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT LIKE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          CAN YOU TAKE A SECOND AND JUST WALK THROUGH, UM, THE FINANCIAL, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN OUR LAST ASSESSMENTS WERE AND WHAT THE PROCESS MAY BE GOING FORWARD? SURE, YES. 
          THAT TIMELINE. 
          SO YOU'RE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO, TO DO A REASSESSMENT EVERY SIX YEARS. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT THE LAST CYCLE THAT YOU POSSIBLY COULD GO TO. 
          SO WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING NOW IS AN RFP WILL BE DEVELOPED, UH, THAT WILL BE RELEASED, UH, PROBABLY TOWARDS MAY, JUNE TIMEFRAME. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO, UH, INTERVIEW THE RESPONDENTS TO THAT RFP, UM, PROBABLY NO LATER THAN AUGUST, AND HAVE BY THE, BY SEPTEMBER AWARDING YOUR REASSESSMENT CONTRACT. 
          SO THE FIRST THING THAT THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO DO IS, IS COME IN AND DO AN EVALUATION OF THE MARKET. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE ACTIVE MARKET. 
          UM, THAT MARKET ASSESSMENT IS GONNA BE DONE OVER THE FIRST FEW MONTHS. 
          AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE, UM, HOUSE AND DWELLING IN THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO BE VISITED AND A, A FIELD AND, UM, REVIEW, DONE, PHOTOS TAKEN, ALL THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT, THAT USUALLY TAKES THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST A YEAR'S WORTH OF WORK. 
          UM, SO THEN, NOT THIS OCTOBER, BUT NEXT OCTOBER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, PROBABLY ASSESSMENT NOTICES BEING MAILED OUT. 
          THOSE ASSESSMENT NOTICES WOULD COME, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO EVERYBODY'S HOME, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THOSE NOTICES, MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS QUESTIONS, ANSWERS. 
          THERE WOULD BE MEETINGS WITH THE ASSESSORS, THE REASSESSMENT FIRM TO DO THAT. 
          THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS THAT THE HANDBOOK WOULD HAVE TO BE FILED BY 
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DECEMBER 31ST OF THAT YEAR. 
          UM, THEN THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION WOULD COME IN AFTER THAT AND THEY, THE BOARD COULD MAKE ANY, ANY CHANGEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD. 
          SO FROM A TAX STANDPOINT, UH, FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, YOU WOULD, YOU, I MEAN, IF YOU GO TO THE EFFECTIVE RATE, THERE'S NO, IT'S REVENUE NEUTRAL. 
          IF THERE WERE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT ABOVE THE EFFECTIVE RATE, YOU WOULD SEE A PORTION OF THAT IN THAT SUBSEQUENT YEAR BUDGET. 
          UM, FOR THE JUNE 5TH PAYMENT OF THAT. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THAT'S THE YEAR YOU'RE GONNA ESTABLISH YOUR TAX RATES BASED ON THE NEW VALUES. 
          BUT OUR CURRENT VALUES, OUR CURRENT BASED UPON 20 19 18, 19 18 MARKET ASSESSMENT, 19 FIELD VISITS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT OUR REVENUE TODAY IS BASED UPON. 
          IT IS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE A REAL, IF YOU A HOME IN DEITY COUNTY, YOU'RE NOT PAYING TAXES TODAY BASED ON WHAT THE MARKET VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY IS AT THE MOMENT. 
          THAT'S WHY YOUR REAL ESTATE LINE STAYS PRETTY, PRETTY FLAT THROUGHOUT YOUR CYCLES, EXCEPT FOR ANY NEW REVENUE THAT MAY BE COMING ON THE BOOK OR ANY NEW BUSINESS THAT WOULD COME IN OR WHATNOT. 
          ANY, ANY ADDITION TO YOUR TAX BASE. 
          UM, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STRONGLY LOOK AT AND RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT WAIT TO A SIX YEAR CYCLE NEXT TIME THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT DOING A, A MORE FREQUENT REASSESSMENT, UM, TO KEEP UP WITH WITH THE MARKET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS YEAR, I MEAN, ONE, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AT, AT, UM, AT PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY THIS YEAR, UM, DIDN'T PERFORM LIKE IT HAD BEEN PERFORMING IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          RIGHT? SO WE, WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS THIS UNPRECEDENTED SPIKE LAST YEAR AND THE VALUES, YOU REACTED WITH THAT, UM, TO, TO NOT TAKE IT TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF FAIR MARKET VALUE, BUT TO TAKE IT TO 90% AND TO SUBSEQUENTLY ALSO LOWER THE TAX RATE BY 15 MORE CENTS. 
          UM, SO NOW WHAT THE, WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE LAST YEAR IS THE MARKET HAS COOLED DOWN SOME. 
          AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT COOL DOWN, I MEAN, I THINK, AND DO YOU REMEMBER THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? I THINK FROM A PERSONAL PROPERTY STANDPOINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE $300,000 OR SO AND AROUND THAT. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT'S, SO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT NEWER VEHICLES THIS YEAR, MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN, THAN THE VEHICLE THAT THEY HAD. 
          SO YOU SEE SOME ADJUSTMENT, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE YEAR BEFORE WHERE YOU HAD, EVEN WITH THE DECREASE IN THAT 90%, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE LOOKING AT REVENUE OVER $2 MILLION, UH, IN TOTAL. 
          SO BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY SIDE. 
          SO FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, THE GOOD THING IS, I MEAN, IF YOU DIDN'T MAKE ANY NEW CHANGES, YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY IS GONNA BE COMING DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT YOU PAID PREVIOUSLY. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'LL BE A GOOD, A GOOD THING. 
          UM, BUT AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A, A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF, OF SERVICES THAT ARE EXPECTED EVERY, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A BUDGET BEFORE YOU THAT'S GONNA AT LEAST ADDRESS THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE THERE. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, BIG THINGS, YOU KNOW, MR. MOOD, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE 2.37% DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A HUGE INCREASE JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE, THAT STEP ADJUSTMENT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING MORE, WE, WE NEED TO START DOING THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
          UM, I'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER MEETING WITH SOME OF THE REGIONAL MANAGERS TOMORROW AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, AND THEN ME PRETTY QUICKLY GETTING WITH DR. 
          WESTON TO SEE WHAT, WHERE HER THOUGHT IS THE, THE, THE, THE CONCERN OF THE REGIONAL JAIL IS REAL FOR ME TOO. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, THAT COMES IN, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE, UM, WE GOTTA COINCIDE THAT WITH THE MEDICINAL DECREASES. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT IN IN THAT AS WELL. 
          JUST ONE MORE COMMENT UP. 
          YES, SIR. 
          Y'ALL KNOW THAT THIS, THIS INFLUX OF FEDERAL MONEY HAS REALLY THROWN THE ECONOMY FROM, AND INFLATION WISE, IT'S JUST HARD TO KEEP UP WITH INCREASING COST, WHAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING NOWADAYS, IT'S JUST THEY'RE GOING, IT'S IN A DECLINE. 
          SO THAT IS A PROBLEM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND ESPECIALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT DOESN'T IMPROVE BY NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I MEAN, IF WE START SEEING, I MEAN, I WAS PRETTY PLEASED WITH, WITH, WITH ANNE AND WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR SENIOR STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, EARLY NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS TOO. 
          BUT, UM, AND WE WERE ABLE, I MEAN, IT, IT WAS NOT AN EASY TASK TO GO IN AND CUT AN ALREADY LEAN BUDGET THE 
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WAY WE LOOK AT IT, UH, TO GET IT TO THE POINT THAT WE COULD STILL JUSTIFY A STEP INCREASE AND THESE NEW POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU START HAVING, YOU KNOW, TODAY I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF OUR MANAGERS SAID THAT THEY HAD NEW CONTRACT COME IN WITH A 14% INCREASE. 
          AND JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THEY HAD TOLD 'EM IT WAS GONNA BE A 6% INCREASE. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, IF IT, IF IT CONTINUE TO SEE THAT TYPE OF INFLATIONARY INCREASES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT'S GONNA BE A, A TOUGH BUDGET YEAR NEXT YEAR TOO. 
          BUT GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND, AND WALK IT THROUGH IF YOU WANNA SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT SOME OF IT AND THEN WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          JUST A, A COMMENT IT AND A PENNY IN TAX REAL ESTATE IS WORTH HOW MUCH IN TODAY'S DOLLARS? ABOUT TWO 30, ANN IS ABOUT 2 35, 2 30, SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. 
          I MEAN, AFTER YOUR REASSESSMENT, THAT NUMBER WOULD GET REEVALUATED. 
          RIGHT? BUT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, BUT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, IT'S, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST GIVING EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANTED, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN, BUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN A YEAR THAT YOU ONLY GREW 1.3 MILLION, UM, YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, IT'S LOT OF  SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TAX RATE. 
          A LOT OF PENNS TO, TO DO THAT, UM, AT A TIME IN WHICH THE PEOPLE AT HOME ARE ALSO LOOKING AT. 
          UM, ABSOLUTELY SOME CUT. 
          SO, I, I KNOW I SAID IT EARLIER TOO, BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THESE DECISIONS AREN'T EASY. 
          THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ALWAYS IN FLUX. 
          UM, FOR ME, AND AGAIN, IT, IT CAN CHANGE AT ANY TIME BASED ON THE DESIRES OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT SEEMED TO GET PITTED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY THIS YEAR, I JUST KNOW THE, THE, THE SPECIFIC AREA WE'RE AT WITH FIRE AND EMS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT AFFECTS ALL 28,000 PEOPLE OF DEWIN COUNTY. 
          UM, AND WHILE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS YOUR LARGEST AREA THAT YOU FUND, UM, WHEN I HAD TO COMPARE FIRE AND EMS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT WAS, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO IN AND INTENT IN, YOU KNOW, CUT SOME OF OUR INTERNAL OPERATIONS. 
          UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY HAS TO BE A PRIORITY, UM, THIS YEAR. 
          AND AS YOU SEE NEXT YEAR, AND WE HAVE TO REEVALUATE, BUT NEXT YEAR FROM THE STAFFING PLAN ON THE FIRE AND EMS SIDE, THAT'S WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ADD MORE TO YOUR, IN ADDITION TO, TO TRY TO HELP RESPONSE TIMES AND SOME OTHER, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO, TO KEEP IT MORE OPERATING MORE EFFECTIVELY. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, WELL THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS TRANSITIONING TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. 
          SO THE, THE BIG SHEET I HANDED OUT, UH, IS JUST THAT WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH, I'M MEETING WITH THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          ME AND MR. BASSETT ARE GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE AND WANTED ME TO STRESS THIS, THIS IS NOT PRIORITIZED YET. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS WHEN, THIS IS WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND, AND THOSE THAT WE SUPPORT, LIKE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, EXTENSION, UH, AIRPORT WATER AUTHORITY. 
          SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS YOU GOT 45 PROJECTS THAT OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD HAVE AN OVERALL PROJECT COST OF, OF 57 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, WHAT I'M GONNA DO TODAY IS JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE THAT, THAT ARE FALLING IN FY 24. 
          BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT LIKE FOR FY 25, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SHEET, YOU SEE THAT'S $18 MILLION. 
          SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO $18 MILLION NEXT YEAR. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS HAS TO GET SPREAD OUT. 
          AND SO WHAT I, YOU KNOW, I TOLD MS. HOWERTON EARLIER, I, I WENT THROUGH AND AND LOOKED AT JUST WHERE WE ARE WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CIP. 
          SO I JUST WANNA PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT FY 24 THROUGH 30 33, AND IF WE DIDN'T DO ANY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TARGET SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO TO 3 MILLION A YEAR. 
          BETTER YEARS, WE CAN GO MORE THAN THREE. 
          UM, BUT WE TARGET SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO AND A HALF, $3 MILLION A YEAR PAY CASH FOR PROJECTS. 
          UM, IN FY 24, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS ABOUT $1.7 MILLION JUST IN SCHOOL BUSES AND AMBULANCE REPLACEMENT, UH, A TANKER INVESTMENT, UM, AS WELL AS POLICE CARS. 
          THE, IM A I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE, BUT SO THEN I, 
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I SAID TO MYSELF, WELL IF, IF IT'S COSTING US 1.7 MILLION AND THOSE ARE REOCCURRING EXPENSES, IF WE'RE TO LOOK AT 24 THROUGH 33, THE WHOLE 10 YEAR PERIOD, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE IS GONNA BE AROUND 1.6 TO 1.7 MILLION EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          AND THAT NUMBER WILL ONLY EXPONENTIALLY GET HIGHER AS YOU HAVE COST OF LIVING INCREASES AND INFLATION AND WHATNOT. 
          SO I JUST SAY THAT TO SAY THAT, I MEAN, MS. HOWERTON AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN TODAY. 
          WE AS A STRATEGY WITH THIS, UH, CIP WE'VE GOTTA GET TO A POINT OF MAKING SOME PHILOSOPHICAL DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE REPLACED EVERY, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO PURCHASE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SCHOOL BUSES, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POLICE CARS, UH, EVERY YEAR. 
          AND SO DOES THAT REALLY START TO BECOME AN OPERATING EXPENSE MORE THAN A ONE-TIME CAPITAL EXPENSE? AND I THINK WE'VE, WE FUNDED IT THIS WAY 'CAUSE IT'S CONSERVATIVE. 
          'CAUSE AT THE, AT THE YEAR'S END, WE'VE ALWAYS PERFORMED BETTER BY NOT EXPENDING ALL OF WHAT WE BUDGET AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATING THE REVENUE. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT GO BACK INTO THE, THE UNDESIGNATED FUNDS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN APPROACH, BUT A LOT OF THESE BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          LIKE YOU SEE THEM HERE WHEN MORE THAN HALF OF YOUR CIP EVERY YEAR THAT YOU'RE PAYING CASH FOR IS JUST IN THESE LIKE REOCCURRING SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT OF CERTAIN VEHICLES. 
          AND I, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY AT HOME THINKING EITHER THAT, OH WELL WE'RE JUST REPLACING A POLICE CAR 'CAUSE IT'S AT 130,000 MILES. 
          I MEAN, YOU HEARD THE SHERIFF SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, 180 PLUS THOUSAND MILES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE GET GOOD USE OUT OF THESE VEHICLES, UM, THERE AND I THINK WITH THE FIRE AND RESCUE ASSOCIATION AND THEIR APPARATUS COMMITTEES, I MEAN THEY'RE, THIS IS ONLY GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT WORSE AND I'M TRY TO BE JOHNNY RAINCLOUD, BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE LIFE LIFESPAN OF SOME OF THESE VEHICLES AND APPARATUS AREN'T LIKE THEY USED TO BE. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT A, SOME OF THESE VEHICLES USED. 
          I MEAN, IT USED TO BE LIKE 20, 30 YEAR. 
          AND, AND NOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. 
          SO I JUST JUST WANTED TO, TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          SO, UM, LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC ONES. 
          AND, AND NUMBER ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, UM, IS FROM THE EXTENSION OFFICE, WHICH IS THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION NEW LOCATION. 
          SO IF YOU RECALL, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE, UH, MIKE PARISH WAS LOOKING AT AN AG CENTER, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE THAT THEY COULD, THAT IT'S THE ONLY FACILITY WE HAVE. 
          CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ANNE, BUT WHAT, IT'S THE ONLY, WHAT PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING RENT IS FOR THE EXTENSION OFFICE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT RENTER MENTALITY WOULD HOPEFULLY BE, HEY, WE NEED TO STOP PAYING RENT AND, AND DO SOMETHING OURSELVES. 
          SO THE IDEA OF OF, UH, MIKE PARRISH WAS TO LOOK AT A, AN AG BUILDING THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED DESIGN THAT COULD HOUSE EXTENSION, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UH, LIKE TO CO-LOCATE NEAR THE EXTENSION OFFICE, SO YOUR FSA AND SOLAR AND WATER AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES AROUND THAT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE THAT ACTUALLY BEING FUNDED IN IN FY 24, BUT THAT AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS WHERE IT'S BEING SHOWN. 
          UM, AND IT POTENTIALLY IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COULD BE BROKEN UP A LITTLE BIT AND, AND MAYBE FOR THIS, IF THE BOARD DESIRES TO MOVE FORWARD, DESIRES TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK YOU NEED TO FIND OUT THE LOCATION FIRST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU CAN SOLIDIFY A LOCATION. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH WORK DONE IN SITE WORK AND ENGINEERING AND I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A MILLION DOLLARS TODAY FOR A, A BUILDING THAT SIZE. 
          AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT IS THOUGH. 
          THE NEXT PROJECT I WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS LINE NUMBER EIGHT. 
          AND THAT GETS TO THE, UH, TRAINING FACILITY MASTER PLAN. 
          AND SO THIS WAS A NINE AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S A OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION OF A 2,100 SQUARE FOOT TRAINING FACILITY, A LIVE FIRE TRAINING FACILITY. 
          I KNOW IT'S TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE, AND THE FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATION MEETING WITH THAT. 
          WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS ACTUALLY BROKEN THIS INTO TWO PIECES, UM, IN $125,000 FIRST AND THEN NEXT YEAR, $955,000 IN THE CONSTRUCTION COST. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR, UM, THE FACILITY'S MASTER PLAN AND THE LIVE FIRE TRAINING FACILITY. 
          THE 
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NEXT ONE, NUMBER NINE IS THE, UM, THE AUTOMATED CPR DEVICE OR THE AUTO PULSES. 
          AND SO IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BEING SHOWN LAST YEAR AND IN A MEANS TO TRY TO TO, TO MORE ADEQUATELY FUNDED IN THE RIGHT YEAR. 
          WE MOVED IT FROM LAST YEAR'S CIP TO THIS YEAR'S CIP, SO THAT, THAT 175,000 IS TO, UM, TO, TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THOSE CPR DEVICES. 
          AND THAT'S AT, UM, AND THAT'S AT ALL ON ALL AMBULANCES, RIGHT? THAT THAT WOULD BE AND FIRST RESPONDER VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, BUT, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING 'EM ON EVERY AMBULANCE IN ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDER UNITS. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          NUMBER 10, UM, IS ACTUALLY BEING SHOWN THIS YEAR TOO. 
          AND THAT'S AN AMBULANCE REPLACEMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S A, UM, INCREASE THERE, YOU SEE OF ABOUT $310,000. 
          CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? SURE, SURE. 
          WHY IS THERE NOT A PLACEHOLDER FOR 2020 FIVE'S BUDGET? UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A GROUP OF THEM TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THAT ONE THAT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, IT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY IT FELL OUT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND I, AGAIN, YOU, YOU PURCHASED SEVERAL AMBULANCES USING ARPA FUNDS MM-HMM . 
          AND WITH THIS ONE, I THINK WE GET CALLED UP, WE GET A BREAK NEXT YEAR, THEN THEY, YOU SEE THEY GO UP AND, AND I, THE 400,000, WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU ORDER AN AMBULANCE DAY, THEY DIDN'T COME IN, YOU KNOW,  AS FAST AS WE CAN. 
          IT KNOWS HOW FAST IT'S GONNA COME IN THAT YOU, THAT YOU WOULD WANT IT TO COME IN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE, THE NEXT ONE IS LINE 11, WHICH GETS INTO THE TANKER REPLACEMENT THAT, UM, THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT TANKER, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH LOCATION IS THAT COMPANY ONE'S TANKER? IT'S TWO OF THEM. 
          ONE AND FOUR. 
          1 1 4. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE LARGER ITEMS THIS YEAR, ABOUT $600,000 THAT'S THERE. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AGAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THERE. 
          AND I'M GONNA, KEVIN JUST YEP. 
          A COMMENT HERE. 
          UM, AND I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE INCREASING THE BUDGET TO COVER SOME OF THESE, BUT LIKE A TANKER AND MAYBE NOT AN AMBULANCE, BUT MAYBE AN AMBULANCE TOO. 
          THE LIFE EXPECTANCY ON THOSE IS OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AND WHETHER TO FINANCE THOSE AND STILL HAVE YOUR YEARLY EXPENSE, BUT IT NOT BE 300,000 FOR A TANKER. 
          IT'D BE, BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE YIELD RIGHT SO THAT YOU'LL STILL NOT PAYING FOR WIFE. 
          I COULD SEE THAT WITH AN AMBULANCE. 
          'CAUSE WE USE 'EM SO MUCH MORE THAN WE USE OUR FIRE TRUCKS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE CERTAINLY YOU DON'T WANT TO DRIVE AN AMBULANCE THAT DIDN'T PAY FOR AND WELL WHITE, SO THAT'S TRUE. 
          NO, AND YOU KNOW, AND ANN AND I TALKED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, I MEAN, SOME, SOME OF THESE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY THINK THROUGH AND WITH THE FIRE AND RESCUE AND THE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT COMMITTEE, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THESE VEHICLES GET, 'CAUSE WHEN THEY, THEY GO FROM A HIGH USE AREA TO A, AN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THEY DON'T GET USED AS MUCH. 
          SO TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET AS MUCH LIFE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT, BUT IN SOME OF THESE FINANCING, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO FINANCING THESE VEHICLES. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PEOPLE AT HOME DON'T NECESSARILY GO PAY CASH FOR THEIR CARS EITHER, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO FOR SOME OF THESE, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE A A SMART DECISION ON HOW TO HANDLE IT. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THE AMBULANCES IS LIKE 5, 6, 7 YEARS ON THE AMORTIZATION OF THOSE. 
          SO THOSE ARE MUCH SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAN YOU WOULD'VE FOR LIKE A 10 OR 15, 20 YEAR PIECE OF FIRE APPARATUS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE GOT INTO WITH THESE AMBULANCES BEFORE THEY WEREN'T AS MECHANICALLY SOUND AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. 
          AND SO, YEAH. 
          WELL, AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE, THE APPARATUS TOO IS THAT IT'S SUCH A LONG LEAD TIME, RIGHT? A BUILD TIME ON THEM. 
          RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT 24 TO 36 MONTHS TO, FROM THE TIME YOU PLACE THE ORDER TO THE TIME YOU GET 'EM. 
          SO IT'S REALLY YOU HAVING TO MOVE THEM UP IN THE SCHEDULE TO GET 'EM FOR WHEN YOU REALLY DID NEED 'EM. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE DIFFICULTY FROM A FINANCIAL PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AT THE TIME IN WHICH WE ACTUALLY 
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ISSUE THE GO AHEAD BUILD IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO AWARD THE CONTRACT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GONNA RECEIVE THE ASSET FROM MULTI FISCAL YEARS AWAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR MONEY EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE, THE RIGHT BENEFIT, BUT YOU'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR IT EARLY MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          WITHOUT MEAN BEFORE YOU WOULD PAY IT AND GET IT BACK SOONER, BUT YEAH, IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU GO TO 22, 22, LINE 22 IS, GOES BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS. 
          WE'RE OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE. 
          UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT 17, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA OF ANIMAL SHELTER REPLACEMENT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TOO MUCH INTO THIS, BUT I DO, THERE'LL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT LATER OF, UM, THE GENEROSITY OF A FAMILY THAT WAS ABLE TO GIVE FUNDS TO THE COUNTY. 
          AND THE THOUGHT IS POTENTIALLY THE, AND I KNOW THE TYLER SOUTH HALL COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IS WORKING THROUGH THAT, THAT GIFT AT THIS POINT, DONATION THAT'S BEEN MADE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE ANY SPECIFIC NUMBERS ASSOCIATED. 
          WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS THAT THAT DONATION COULD BE THE BEGINNING OF A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO REPLACE THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS A SIGNIFICANT DONATION. 
          UM, WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS LATER ABOUT THAT, BUT I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SKIP OVER THAT, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS BUILT, THERE WERE REASONS WHY IT WAS NEAR THE LANDFILL AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE EUTHANASIA AND WHATNOT OF, OF THE ANIMALS THAT WERE IN OUR CARE TODAY. 
          UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR ADOPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT CO-LOCATED AT A LANDFILL, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FEEL LIKE MAYBE A BETTER COMMERCIAL LOCATION WOULD ACTUALLY HELP OUR GOAL OF GETTING OUR ANIMALS ADOPTED. 
          AND, AND MAYBE OUT OF THAT, THAT STIGMA OF HAVING IT, AND YOU'LL FIND US ALL OVER VIRGINIA, YOU'LL SEE THE CO-LOCATION OF SHELTERS AND LANDFILLS, BUT SOME OF THE NEWER ONES ARE GETTING OUT OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          22 GETS YOU TO, UM, LET'S SEE OUR, UH, HVAC TOWER SITE IMPROVEMENT THAT ARE THERE. 
          SO GENE HAS, HAS ASKED FOR THAT UPGRADE AT THE TOWER SITE IN ADDITION TO THAT. 
          23 DOES THE, THE SAME THING, UM, AT THE PAMPLIN BUILDING. 
          AND THAT'S AGAIN, A-H-V-A-C, UH, UPGRADE. 
          AND THAT IN CONTROL IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN MOVING TO 28, 28 IS A PARKS AND REC. 
          NOW WE, I WAS TALKING TO MS. COLLINS EARLIER TODAY, WE DON'T AT THIS MOMENT HAVE THE FACILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE A PART OF SOME, SOME FUTURE CIP. 
          SO THIS NUMBER, AGAIN, THE OVERALL 57 MILLION IS GONNA GROW WHEN SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS COME IN. 
          BUT THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, 28 AND 29, 1 OF THEM IS EAST SIDE AT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT CENTER, AND IT'S INSTALLING FIELD LIGHTING, UM, AT THE, THE GREEN SPACE LOCATED BEHIND EAST SIDE. 
          AND SO THIS NUMBER MAY CHANGE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DID HEAR THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO USE SOME EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT NU THAT NUMBER MAY COME DOWN SOME, UM, BUT WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO HERE WAS TO PROVIDE SITE LIGHTING FOR SOME OF THE OUTDOOR AMENITIES AT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT NUMBER AS IT'S PRESENTLY AT WAS $338,000. 
          UM, IS WHERE THAT IS. 
          I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ON HAND IS ALREADY INCLUDED. 
          IT IS, SO THAT, THAT IS THE NUMBER, THE 3 38, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE NUMBER. 
          I THINK IT'S A POTENTIAL THAT THE INSTALLATION COSTS WILL GO DOWN. 
          THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF IS IN HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ESCALATION COSTS WILL GO DOWN. 
          SO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HOME THAT MAYBE DIDN'T HEAR, THAT'S THE, THE INSTALLATION COSTS MAY COME DOWN, BUT THE ACTUAL MATERIALS WOULD, WOULD BE THE SAME THAT MATERIALS ARE NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS MORE, MORE PRACTICE FIELD THAN IT IS GAME FIELD. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S LOOKING, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRITE UP LIGHTED PRACTICE FACILITIES. 
          I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S A 300 FOOT BY 180 FOOT, UH, THE, FOR SOCCER SPACES. 
          UM, AND IT'S IN THAT, THAT BACK AREA THERE TO ELIMINATE, UM, THAT BACK AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND 29 IS THE COST OF DOING, UM, AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX BASKETBALL COURTS. 
          AND SO THIS, THIS HAD COME ABOUT, UM, PREVIOUSLY 
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AND, AND I THINK SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAD ALSO CONTACTED THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS. 
          AND SO IF I WERE TO, IF YOU WERE TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, TURN INTO RBY PAMPLIN DRIVE AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LEFT ENTRANCE INTO THE SPORTS COMPLEX, THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE WESTERN PART OF THAT PROPERTY THAT'S, UM, THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE IN BETWEEN FOUR 60 AND GOES TO THE WETLANDS AT SOUTHERN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          SO IT WOULD BE LOCATED IN THAT GENERAL AREA OF, OF THE COMPLEX. 
          AND SO THE COST FOR ONE COURT WAS 189,000. 
          THE COST FOR TWO COURTS WOULD BE THE 3 79. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE WAS THE 3 79 FOR TWO COURTS. 
          UM, I THINK MS. COLLINS INDICATED TO ME THAT THE COURT SURFACE, IT'S NOT REALLY A PAVEMENT, IT'S A TYPE OF BASKETBALL, UM, SURFACE THAT ALSO ALLOWS MULTI-SPORT. 
          AND SO YOU COULD HAVE PICKLEBALL AND OTHER, OTHER SPORTS THAT COULD BE DONE AS WELL. 
          IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT, UM, THAT IT WOULD HAVE LIKE A 10 FOOT FENCE AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH BASKETBALL AND BALLS BOUNCING OVER THE FENCE. 
          SO AT 10 FOOT, UM, ON THE EXTERIOR, UM, PART OF THAT IN A FIVE FOOT FENCE DOWN THE CENTER, SEPARATING THE TWO COURTS FROM ONE ANOTHER. 
          UM, SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO ANY MORE RECENT CONSTRUCTED PICKLEBALL, UM, OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED A GENTILE. 
          AND IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PAVEMENT. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY A, A BETTER, MORE RELIABLE SURFACE THAN WHAT WHAT YOU'LL SEE WITH PAVEMENT. 
          AND IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON THE, THE KNEES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAN WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE. 
          BUT THAT'S THAT PROJECT THERE. 
          SO MOVING TO 31, 31 GETS YOU TO SCHOOL BUS REPLACEMENT. 
          AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT, UM, THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM'S ASKING FOR $565,000, JEFF WALTERS. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT IS REPLACING, UM, FIVE BUSES IS WHAT HE HAS LISTED HERE THAT HE WOULD, HE WOULD LOOK AT AT GOING AFTER. 
          UM, NOW YOU WILL JUST, JUST DRAW REFERENCE IN FY 32 THAT GOES UP TO NINE BUSES IN, IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR THAT, THAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT. 
          SO THAT'S A, A BUS REPLACEMENT. 
          AND, AND SO WE HAD ASKED THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PREVIOUSLY, HOW LONG DOES A SCHOOL BUS LAST IN DEITY COUNTY? AND, AND THEY DO SHUFFLE THEM AROUND FROM LONG DRIVE AREAS, THE SHORT DRIVE AREAS AND TRY TO GET THE MOST OUT OF IT. 
          BUT, BUT AN AVERAGE BUS, YOU KNOW, IS APPROXIMATELY A 14 YEAR ROTATION BEFORE IT GETS, IT GETS TAKEN OUT OF THE FLEET. 
          SO AGAIN, WE CAN KIND OF PREDICT THESE WITH SOME, SOME OVERALL ACCURACY, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S YOUR SCHOOL BUSES. 
          UH, YOUR NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 32, AND THAT GETS TO SUNNYSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          AND SO THERE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND DR. 
          WE AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MEET WITH ONE ANOTHER AND STAFF TO TRY TO TALK THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          THIS PROJECT, I DON'T BELIEVE WAS IDENTIFIED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S MADE IT TO YEAR ONE THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING WAS, UH, TO UPGRADE, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE HVAC SYSTEM OVER AT SUNNYSIDE. 
          AND THIS, THIS ELECTRICAL UPGRADE WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE THEY COULD DO THAT. 
          BUT IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE A MILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE. 
          RIGHT? THEY HAD ALREADY, THEY HAD ALREADY PLANNED TO DO THE HVAC UPGRADE, BUT THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. 
          UM, SO THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND IT'S, IT'S, I THINK, I GUESS IT'S NECESSARY TO DO THAT ELEC ELECTRICAL UPGRADE PRIOR TO DOING THE HVAC. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE NEXT ONE, NUMBER 33 IS THE DEY HIGH SCHOOL, UM, TURF FIELD. 
          AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM'S BEEN DESIRED FOR A COUPLE YEARS OF, EVEN THOUGH IT HADN'T BEEN, UM, I GUESS SPECIFICALLY ON, ON PAPER, BUT THE, THE THOUGHTS OF TRYING TO MAKE A TURF SYNTHETIC FIELD AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, NOT JUST FOR FOOTBALL, BUT I GUESS FOR PE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE AS PART, AS FAR AS PART OF THAT. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE, UM, PETERSBURG THAT HAS RECENTLY GONE TO A TURF FIELD. 
          PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS A, HAS A TURF FIELD. 
          I KNOW THAT THE, WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM WINNING THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE FACILITIES ITSELF NOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT, THIS IS JUST THE FIELD. 
          I KNOW THAT DR. MOORE, YOU HAD HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WITH SOME SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT MAKING OTHER IMPROVEMENTS 
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TO THAT FIELD, MOVING THE PRESS BOX, MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE VISITOR SIDE BLEACHERS. 
          UM, EDDIE MOORE STANDS ON OUR SIDE GOING TOWARDS THE FIFTH HOUSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT. 
          WE, THIS IS JUST TRULY A TURF FIELD. 
          AND WHAT INDICATES A 94,126 SQUARE FOOT SYNTHETIC PLANE SURFACE THAT WOULD JUST REPLACE THE, THE PLAYING FIELD ASSOCIATED WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM NEED A BANK OR CREDIT CARD COMPANY TO SPONSOR THE FIELD . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE, THE LAST TWO THAT YOU'LL SEE IS NUMBER 44, AND THAT GETS INTO YOUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, UM, FOR YOUR, YOUR PATROL VEHICLES. 
          AND ANN, I THINK IT WAS WHAT SIX VEHICLES IS WHAT WE'RE STICKING TO THIS YEAR? YES. 
          AND, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THE BUDGET TIME SHERIFF REALLY FELT LIKE SIX WAS NEEDED. 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU GO BACK FROM SIX, IT'S HARDER TO, TO GET CAUGHT UP AGAIN. 
          UM, SO THAT SIX VEHICLES, AND AGAIN, REPLACING THOSE WITH HIGH MILEAGE THAT WE, UM, THAT WE HAVE, IF WE CAN GET 'EM YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THERE. 
          THAT JUST, THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN GET 'EM YEAH, WE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ONES WE NEEDED FOR THIS YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A, WE'RE ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LISTS AND THEY HAVEN'T APPEARED YET. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT MAY MEAN A, A SHIFT IN WHAT WE'RE GETTING NOW TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, IT'S HARD TO FIND THE, THE CARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK SUVS ARE, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH FORCED TO GO TO SUVS. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY, THEY'RE JUST NOT MAKING THE, THE SEDAN INTERCEPTORS MUCH ANYMORE AT ALL. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YOU CAN'T GET ANY OF THEM AT ALL AT ALL EITHER. 
          SO THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A COUPLE OVER 180,000 MILES. 
          WE HAD 10 VEHICLES OVER 130,000 MILES. 
          SO AGAIN, WE, WE GET, WE GET A GOOD USE OUT OF IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE LAST PROJECT YOU'LL SEE FOR FY 24 IS THE 50, THE MDTS OR MOBILE DATA TERMINALS OR THE LAPTOPS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR, IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES. 
          AND SO THIS IS A, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 218,000 WORTH OF ARPA FUND GRANT. 
          SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE GOING AFTER THE GRANT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OVERALL PROJECT COST OF $348,000 AND THE, UM, THAT'S THE TOTAL PROJECT COST, BUT THE GRANT IS ANTICIPATED IT COULD PAY FOR 218,000 OF THAT. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO BRING, AND, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S THAT LONG AGO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE MADE THE INVESTMENT TO PUT THESE INTO THE VEHICLES, BUT, UM, IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT WE DO TODAY AND IF WE CAN USE ARPA FUNDING TO PAY FOR THIS PERCENTAGE OF IT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE 218,000 IS, IS THE STATE'S ALLOCATION ON DCJS FOR DY COUNTY. 
          AND THIS WAS THE PROJECT THAT, UM, MARIE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WORKED ON TO SPEND THAT $218,000 THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTY. 
          SO IS THE TOTAL PROJECT 3 48 THE TOTAL PROJECT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE TOTAL PROJECT IS 3 48 ISN'T RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          I'M, I'M JUST TRYING, IF YOU'VE GOT TWO, EIGHT, IF YOU GET THE TWO 18, THEN REQUEST IS NOT GONNA BE THREE 40. 
          IT MAY BE 3 48, BUT IT WON'T COST 3 48 MAYBE. 
          THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          DO YOU, YOU YOU'VE GOT THE SHEET THEY'RE STILL COMING ACROSS AS GOT, THERE'S TWO OF 'EM, IT'S A 3 48, IT'S TWO 18 FOR TWO, THAT'S TWO AREAS. 
          CASE SCENARIO, I GUESS IT'S FOR THE YEAH, THE GRANT. 
          I THINK, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THE, THE TOTAL PROJECT IS THE 3 48 AND TWO. 
          YEAH, IT WOULD BE TWO. 
          THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES GRANT WILL COVER 218,000 OF THE PROJECT COST. 
          I THINK THE TOTAL COST IS THE 3 48. 
          YEAH. 
          THREE FOUR. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PLACEHOLDER THAT YOU'VE GOT IS 3 48. 
          IT'S 3 48 AND THAT'S IF YOU DON'T GET THE GRANT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT COULD ONE OF THOSE CASE SCENARIO, WORST CASE THAT THEY MAY NEED TO SHOW IT IN THE CIP TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET THE GRANT. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT WE WE WILL FIND OUT MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE 348,000. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S IF YOU DIDN'T GET ANY OTHER MONEY THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PLACEHOLDER THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GOTCHA. 
          SO AGAIN, I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHAT I WAS TELLING MS. HAMILTON EARLIER TODAY WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE DOING A 10 YEAR LOOKOUT. 
          WHAT I LIKE TO DO, REALISTICALLY, IF, IF WE EXPEND TWO TO $3 MILLION A YEAR CASH, THEN YEARS 24 THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 27, 28 REALLY SHOULD BE YOUR, YOU SHOULDN'T EXCEED EXCEEDING TWO, $3 MILLION A YEAR IN THOSE FUNDING YEARS. 
          NOW WHAT WE STARTED TO LOOK TODAY IS STARTING TO LOOK AT OUR OVERALL DEBT 
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LOAD AND WHEN SOME OF OUR DEBT STARE DOWN, STAIR STEPPING OF DEBT IS GONNA TAKE PLACE. 
          AND JUST LIKE WE DID WHEN WE, WE DID THIS GOVERNMENT COMPLEX WITH THE NEW BUILDING HERE THAT WE'RE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE RENOVATION OF WHATNOT HERE, WE WERE ABLE TO HIT THOSE STAIR STEPS DOWN THE THAT. 
          AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO, TO, TO LOOK AT THOSE MOMENTS AND WE HIT TODAY THERE'S THREE OR FOUR OPPORTUNITIES IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WHERE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA WANNA MAKE SOME BIGGER INVESTMENTS. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAKING TWO OR 3 MILLION A YEAR. 
          SO I, I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC THAT NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE $18 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING IT IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. 
          UM, AND I, I WOULD ALSO WANT TO, IF SOMEONE SAW A PROJECT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF SOMETHING HAPPENING, ECONOMY, WHATNOT, THAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT IN A FOUR YEAR PERIOD TO SEE THAT ASSET COME ONLINE. 
          AND SO I THINK WE START TO BUILD PUBLIC TRUST IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IF WE ARE ABLE TO START TO FUND THEM BASED ON WHAT'S REALISTICALLY WE'VE BEEN SPENDING. 
          AND NOW WHAT THAT MAY MEAN IS SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, OBVIOUSLY GONNA HAVE TO BE SHUFFLED QUITE A BIT TO GET, GET TO THAT POINT. 
          'CAUSE ONCE YOU START ADDING THE PARKS AND REC PROJECTS BACK AND MAYBE SOME OF THE LARGER SCHOOL PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA GROW TOO. 
          BUT SOME THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, LONG TERM, 10 YEARS OR SO, SEE PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT FALLING OFF FAR YOU, SO YEAH, YOU START GETTING INTO BRICKS AND MORTAR THINGS THAT ARE GONNA LAST, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE TYPE OF FINANCING AND INVESTMENTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING DAVENPORT BACK AGAIN AND KIND OF HELPING US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO THE, THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS YOU DON'T WANNA SPEND MORE THAN ABOUT 5% OF YOUR CURRENT REVENUE IN PEGO FOR CIP. 
          AND SO THAT PUTS US SOMEWHERE NO MORE THAN ABOUT 2.5, 2.7 MILLION EACH YEAR KIND OF IN THAT RANGE. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK IDEA OF WHY WE STICK AROUND BETWEEN THAT TWO TO $3 MILLION MM-HMM . 
          IN CASH EACH YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST ONE THING WE JUST REALLY HAVE TO THINK THROUGH AND, AND THIS COULD BE WHEN YOU START TO SEE REVENUE GROWTH EXCEED LESS THAN 2% LIKE WE ARE THIS YEAR, BUT IF YOU START GETTING UP TO FIVE, 6%, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THESE SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT THINGS, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE EVERY YEAR AND THEY'RE GONNA BE REOCCURRING AND THERE PROBABLY SHOULD BE A REOCCURRING REVENUE TO PAY FOR IT. 
          SO TO MOVE IT TO OPERATING THAT CAPITAL WOULD POTENTIALLY FREE UP YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET TO DO SOME OTHER BRICKS AND MORTAR TYPE THINGS. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW YOUR, YOUR APPARATUS AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND BUSES ARE, ARE TAKEN UP A INORDINATE SHARE OF YOUR TOTAL CIP. 
          SO, UH, KEVIN, THE, THE BUSES REPLACEMENT THAT AMOUNT, IS THAT FIVE BUSES? YEAH, SO IT'S FIVE FIVE. 
          THERE WAS FIVE BUSES IN, UM, EACH YEAH. 
          LET'S SAY OVER, NO, THEY CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          SO IT'S, BUT IT'S, SO IT'S FIVE BUSES AND 24 AND 25 IT GOES TO 6 0 26, IT GOES TO 6 27, IT GOES TO FIVE AGAIN. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          14 YEAR REPLACEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND IT GOES UP TO SEVEN AND 30 AND 30, 31 GOES TO 8 30, 2 GOES TO NINE, AND THEN 33 IT DROPS BACK DOWN TO SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL WE HAVE, WE'VE CROSSED OVER THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A BUS, IF THAT NUMBER IS CORRECT, 5 65 AND FIVE BUSES. 
          WE THAT'S $115,000 A BUS. 
          YEAH, HE, HE WAS, JEFF WAS TELLING US HOW MUCH BUS PER BUS AT THE, SO THAT'S, WE'VE GONET FROM OUR TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL I CAN REMEMBER IT. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M DATING MYSELF, BUT I I CAN REMEMBER A $50,000, $45,000 BUS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S A DOUBLE IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          ALMOST TRIPLE ALMOST. 
          YEAH, ALMOST TRIPLE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          . 
          WELL, I THINK EVEN WHEN WE CAME ONE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT BETWEEN 70, 75,000, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE ALL, WE'RE AT 110, 115,000 NOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIZE OF THE BUS EITHER, SO THAT IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THOSE, WE, YOU KNOW, 54 SEATERS COMPARED, 
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I ASKED CHRISTIE FLEMING IF SHE REMEMBERED THE 45, 50,000 BUS. 
          SHE, SHE REMEMBERED IT TOO, SO IT MADE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          BUT YEAH, YOU'RE, I MEAN YOU'RE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          I WAS THINKING YOU SAID IT WAS CLOSE TO 90 SOME THOUSAND, BUT YEAH. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND BY THE TIME IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. 
          AND THE DIFFICULT PART WITH THIS, AND THIS HAS BEEN AT THE STATE LEVEL TALKING ABOUT THE RURAL COMMUNITIES COMPARED TO THE URBAN COMMUNITIES AND THE DOLLARS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED, WHAT WE SPEND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR TRANSPORTATION OF OUR STUDENTS TO GET THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE SCHOOLS COMPARED TO SAY THREE MILE BORDER IN A CITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S THE EQUITY IS, IS THERE IS NO EQUITY, UM, IN THAT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          BIG DIFFERENCE IN A NINE SQUARE MILE CITY IN A 507 MILE SQUARE MILE COUNTY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NO. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I, I WANTED TO AT LEAST HIT THE PROJECTS. 
          NOW YOU SEE 25 THROUGH 33, YOU'LL SEE A WHOLE LOT OF OF PROJECTS THERE. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED, WE NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON SOME OF THOSE. 
          BUT UM, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA, AGAIN ON THE OPERATING SIDE THAT AT LEAST WE'RE, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET YOU A BALANCED BUDGET AT THE PRESENT DAY TAX RATES, BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SACRIFICED IN ORDER TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD FEEL FOR AT LEAST WHERE WE ARE AT NOW AND WHERE WE WILL BE GOING. 
          UM, AND WHAT THE GAME PLAN IS KIND OF MOVING FORWARD. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DR. 
          WESTIN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT A PRIVATE PUBLIC, UH, PARTNERSHIP WHEN IT COMES TO THE FOOTBALL ATHLETIC FIELD. 
          I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A, A DISCUSSION AT LEAST, UM, OF HOW THAT COULD BE A, A POSSIBILITY, UH, OF HELPING WITH THE FUNDING OF THAT FIELD. 
          I THINK THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT THAT LEVEL. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF POPULARITY WITH NAVY NATION AT THE MOMENT TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND MAYBE THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES AND PHILANTHROPIC INDIVIDUALS THAT'D BE WILLING TO, UM, WHAT DID MR. LEE SAY? MAYBE YOU NEED TO PUT A NAME TO IT. 
          MAYBE A BANK OR SOMETHING , YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          MAYBE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO MM-HMM. 
          TO DO THAT. 
          MAYBE THE US NAVY, UHHUH, . 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I MEAN, I THINK JUST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION MM-HMM . 
          IS, IS WORTHWHILE. 
          I THINK SO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          BUT ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL ME ANYTIME. 
          WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY BEFORE WE GET TO THE, I THINK IT'S MAY 16TH ADOPTION, BUT MAY 2ND WE, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS AND OBVIOUSLY IT'LL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FLUSH OUT SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          UM, AT LEAST YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 
          [3. CLOSED SESSION]
WE HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. 
          THE BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 180 8, CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A 29 DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND CONTRACTS. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE PLEASE? I MOVE. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL MR. LEE. 
          AYE. 
          MS. EBRA BONNER. 
          AYE. 
          MR. MOODY? AYE. 
          DR. MOORE? AYE. 
          ALL VOTING? AYE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AT 7:00 PM AND THAT'S TO DISCUSS THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATES. 
          SO WE WILL BE BACK IN SESSION AT, UM, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THIS AUDITORIUM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE NEED A, A MOTION TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL MR. LEE. 
          AYE. 
          MS. EBRA BONNER. 
          AYE. 
          MR. MOODY A DR. MOORE? AYE. 
          ALL VOTING? AYE. 
          WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED IN A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 180 8, CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 8 29 DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION 
          [01:35:01]
WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND CONTRACTS. 
          AND WHEREAS NO MEMBER HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH CLOSED MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFYING THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING. 
          I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL. 
          MR. LEE. 
          AYE. 
          MS. EBRA BONNER. 
          AYE. 
          MR. MOODY? AYE. 
          DR. MOORE? AYE. 
          ALL VOTING? AYE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, IT 
          [4.A. Calendar Year 2023 Tax Rates]
BEING 7 0 5, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING TODAY AND THE FIRST ONE THAT IS THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023. 
          TAX RATES IF WE NEED. 
          YEAH, WE'LL WE WILL GO AHEAD AND READ OUR STATEMENTS AND I'LL, I'LL DO IT FIRST THIS TIME. 
          HOW ABOUT IT? OKAY. 
          UM, AT THE APRIL, UH, 11TH 2023 MEETING OF THE DIMITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I MARKEY MOORE INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET FOR DI WITTY COUNTY. 
          I INTEND TO VOTE ON THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATE. 
          THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS APPROPRIATED TO THE DENWITTY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE DENWITTY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          THE BUDGET MAY AFFECT ALL SCHOOL BOARD EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY AND I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AT THE APRIL 11TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE DEITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I, DANIEL D. LEE, INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET FOR DEY COUNTY. 
          I INTEND TO VOTE ON CALENDAR YEAR 2023 TAX RATE. 
          THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE MAY DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS APPROPRIATED TO THE DEITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE DEITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. 
          THE BUDGET MAY AFFECT ALL SCHOOL BOARD EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY AND I AM ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. 
          I AM EMPLOYED BY THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHICH HAS AN ADDRESS OF 13 9 15 BOYDEN CLAY ROAD, DENWOODY, VIRGINIA 2 3 8 4 1. 
          DUE TO MY EMPLOYMENT WITH THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD. 
          THANK YOU MR. LEE. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. MADISON GILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE, UM, ACTION TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU COULD ADOPT THE, UH, CALENDAR YEAR 2023, UH, TAX RATES FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO WE, WE ADVERTISED APPROPRIATELY TO HAVE A HEARING TONIGHT AND OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE REAL, UH, FOR TAXES THE SAME LEVY, UM, FOR CURRENT VERSUS PROPOSED WAS THE SAME FROM, UM, 22 TO 23 LAST YEAR FOR TAX RELIEF FOR QUALIFYING MOTOR VEHICLES. 
          WE WERE AT 34%. 
          UH, THIS YEAR WE ADVERTISED THAT AT 33%. 
          SO WITH YOUR, UH, UNITS OF TAXATION, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN. 
          YOU JUST CAN'T GO ABOVE. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'VE, WE HAVE THE SAME PROPOSAL FOR 2023 PROPOSED RATES AS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. 
          NOW FOR YOUR QUALIFYING MOTOR VEHICLES, IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE. 
          YOU'RE AT, WE ADVERTISE 33, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE THAT THAT PROPOSED RATE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA RECOMMEND WITH HER RECOMMENDATION TOO, IS AT 34%. 
          SO YOU CAN GO UP, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T GO DOWN ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. 
          AND, AND THE SAME THING. 
          AND AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THAT WITH THE OTHERS, YOU CAN GO DOWN BUT YOU CAN'T GO UP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT, THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT BUDGET AND CIP AND AT THIS, UM, TAX RATE THAT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, WE BELIEVE WE CAN GET TO A BALANCED BUDGET WITH SOME OF THOSE CUTS AND SOME SIGNIFICANT CUTS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UM, TO GET US A BALANCED BUDGET AT THIS TAX RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MR. MASSENGILL? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. 
          YEP. 
          OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF, OF THE MEETING. 
          IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? HEARING NONE? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR 
          [01:40:01]
COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? ANY CHANGES THAT WISH TO BE EXPRESSED FOR THE TAX RATES BEFORE US? OKAY. 
          THIS IS TO ADVERTISE IT IS THE TAX RATES? NO. 
          YEAH, THIS ACTUALLY WOULD BE TO, TO ADOPT THE, UH, THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IF I COULD I JUST FOR READING TO THE RECORD WHAT THOSE, UM, RATES WOULD BE AND THEN THE, THE QUALIFYING MOTOR VEHICLE AMOUNT. 
          SO FOR REAL ESTATE WOULD BE 70 AND THIS IS ALL BASED ON 100 A HUNDRED DOLLARS ASSESSED, UH, VALUATION. 
          SO IT'S 79 CENTS FOR REAL ESTATE, 79 CENTS FOR MOBILE HOMES, 79 CENTS FOR MINERAL LANDS. 
          UH, 79 CENTS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE, PERSONAL PROPERTY AT $4 AND 60 CENTS. 
          PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR VOLUNTEER QUALIFYING VOLUNTEER VEHICLES AT 25 CENTS. 
          MACHINERY AND TOOLS AT $3 AND 30 CENTS. 
          HEAVY CONSTRUCTION MACHINERY AT $3 AND 30 CENTS, AIRPLANES AT 50 CENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, YOUR TAX RELIEF QUALIFYING MOTOR VEHICLES WOULD BE 34%. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION, UM, AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED WITH THOSE BLANKS FILLED. 
          OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US WITH THE TAX RATES, UH, AS OF LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I GET GO. 
          OH, MR. MOODY, I DO WANNA MENTION LAST YEAR YOU DID DO A 10% OR YOU DID A 90% ASSESSMENT RATIO. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS YEAR YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT 90% RATIO, BUT THE, THE RATES WOULD BE THE SAME. 
          THAT WOULD BE AS MR. MASS GO READ THEM IN THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          UM, YOU HAVE ROLL CALL MR. LEE. 
          A, MS. EBRA, BONNER AYE. 
          MR. MOODY? AYE. 
          DR. MOORE? AYE. 
          ALL VOTING? AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD THIS EVENING? MS. CHAIRMAN? NOTHING FROM STAFF. 
          CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? I SO MOVED. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL MR. LEE. 
          AYE. 
          MS. EBRA BONNER. 
          AYE. 
          MR. MOODY? AYE. 
          DR. MOORE? AYE. 
          ALL VOTING AYE. 
          MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. 
          NEXT TUESDAY, THREE O'CLOCK ONE WEEK.
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