[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.ALL UH, MR. LER, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE, MR. CHAIR? IF I MAY, BEFORE I START, I DID GET A TEXT FROM SWAG, UH, WHO DOES THE VIDEO? UM, AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT WHEN SOME OF THE MEMBERS ARE SPEAKING, UM, THEY CAN'T HEAR THE MEMBERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE THE MICS ARE NOT ON.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU DO SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC ON.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OF ANY ADDITIONS OF CORRECTIONS, CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE NOW NEED TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS.UH, MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 8TH.
I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
AND WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 12TH WORKSHOP MEETING.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SENATE SECOND.
AND SECOND, MR. EARL, MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
TIME IN OUR MEETING FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS, OR ANYONE SIGNED UP, MR. LEY? MR. CHAIR.THE FIRST IS, UH, CARLA JONES.
UH, WE HAVE ONE PERSON WE DON'T SPEAK.
UH, LET ME READ THIS FIRST AS WE DO IT, UH, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CITIZEN'S COMMENT.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIRES TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO ZONING ISSUES THAT ARE NOT LISTED UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PORTION OF THIS MEETING IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD IS A IS PROVIDED THIS TIME IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
NOR IS IT A TIME FOR DIALOGUE WITH COMMISSIONED MEMBERS OR STAFF.
CITIZENS WHO TAKE PART IN THIS COMMENT PERIOD MUST ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS, THE COMMISSION WITH DECORUM LIE, DISRUPTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR TO INCLUDE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE SHALL BE AVOIDED.
AVOID WORDS OR ACTS OF AIM AT EVOKING VIOLENCE OR CAN BE DEEMED TO BE A BREACH OF THE PEACE.
AND LASTLY, DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION'S CHAIR, AND IF YOU WILL, PLEASE COME, UH, TO PODIUM TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
AND IF YOU WILL, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR.
UH, WELL JUST ALL OF US, BUT OH, OKAY.
AND YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS? UM, 50, NO, 25.
AND SO I'M HERE TODAY TO, UM, REQUEST, UH, FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMITTEE THAT, UM, THE NORTHERN AREA BE ALLOWED TO, UM, BE REZONED TO ALLOW FOR A AND BU AIRBNB TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL ALSO, UM, ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE REQUEST IS, IS SO THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS, OUR RESIDENTS ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF OF 85 95.
SO IT IS CONVENIENT FOR, UM, TRAVEL, THOSE TRAVELING THROUGH THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, LODGE AT A AIRBNB THAT'S LOCAL RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE COME INTO THE COUNTY, THEY COME INTO THE COUNTY
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TO ENJOY, UM, THE FULL EXPERIENCE HERE.THEY ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING OTHER, UH, ACTIVITIES LOCAL IN OUR AREA, NOT JUST, UM, I KNOW IT'S ZONED NOW FOR THE AIRBNBS ARE ZONED FOR FARM STAY.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS OUR AREA ISN'T ZONED THAT WAY.
AND SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, UM, STAY IN OUR AREA BECAUSE IT'S NOT ZONED FOR AIRBNB USAGE.
SO WHAT, UH, THOSE WHO WANT TO TRAVEL TO THE MOTOR SPORTS PARK, THOSE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR COME DO HISTORICAL, HISTORICAL EVENTS IN OUR AREA, IN OUR COMMUNITY, OR EVEN, UM, PARTICIPATE AT VC, UH, VIRGINIA STATE COMING FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AT VIRGINIA STATE SUCH AS HOMECOMING, AND THEY LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY.
UM, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY IN A CLOSE, IN A CLOSE PROXIMITY AND THEREFORE HAVE TO GO SPEND THEIR MONIES, REVENUE AND OTHER LOCALITIES.
AND SO, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT AIRBNB'S IN OUR AREA WOULD ALSO GENERATE INCOME FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND ALSO, UM, ALLOW FOR TOURISM, ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO, WHO WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COME EXPERIENCE OUR COUNTY.
SO, UM, I'M REQUESTING FROM THE BOARD THAT, THAT YOU ALL RECONSIDER ZONING, UM, THE NORTHERN COMMUNITY FOR, TO ALLOW FOR A AIRBNB, UH, USAGE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT YOU, YOUR COMMENTS ARE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD AND THEY WILL BE LOGGED WITH THE MINUTES.
AND SO IT WILL BE A RECORD OF THAT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL, UH, DIS DISCUSS THIS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR, FOR RECONSIDERATION.
AND SO, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT RATHER THAN US BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING TONIGHT OR SO, YES, WE, YOU KNOW, WE AGREE WITH YOU, WE DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.
UH, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING YOURSELF WITH A GREAT ARGUMENT.
AND I KNOW OUR STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT AND, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US TO, TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AT ANOTHER TIME.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
IF THAT THEY, IF THEY THINK THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.
BUT THANK YOU MS. WILDER JONES.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT 1639 EAST TUCKAHOE STREET, PETERSBURG.
BUT I AM A DAUGHTER OF DENWITTY.
I HAVE PROPERTY AT 56 31 BELL STREET NORTH IN WITTY.
I, UH, PREVIOUSLY HAVE OWNED A AIRBNB.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS ILL, BUT THAT, THAT MY COMMUNITY WAS, UH, ZONED, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL USE, BUT NOT MY COMMERCIAL USE.
UH, WE ARE WITHIN TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS OF A, UH, BUILDING THAT IS USED TO, UH, STORE WALMART TR WALMART TRUCKS.
AND WE'RE ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM, UH, A STEEL PLANT WHERE A MOUNT APPROXIMATELY FROM A HOTEL.
I KNEW IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND I HAD DIFFERENT PEOPLE COME THROUGH OUR AREA WANTING TO STAY TO GET THE RURAL EXPERIENCE OF DENWITTY.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD STOP NOT WANTING TO STAY AT A HOTEL, BUT ENJOY THE RURAL AREA OF THE PONTY BEACH COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHERE MY, UH, HOME WAS.
BUT, UM, WE HAD THE COVID ISSUE TOO.
PEOPLE DID NOT WANNA STAY IN HOTELS.
AND, UH, WITH EACH GUEST THAT I HAD, THEY ALWAYS GAVE ME POSITIVE, UH, FEEDBACK AS TO HOW QUIET IT WAS, HOW PEACEFUL IT WAS.
THEY LOVED THE, THE COUNTY OF DENWITTY.
THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT DENWITTY HAD, UH, GOING ON.
AND THIS IS JUST NOT THE TRI-CITY AREA, THE TRI-COUNTY AREA.
I HAD, UH, GUESS HOSTED GUESTS THAT, UH, WOULD STAY FOR THE, UM, RACES IN RICHMOND OR THE RUNNERS FROM THE MARATHON.
THE, THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE
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DON'T MIND DRIVING WHERE THEY CAN RELAX.IF THEY CAN REALLY HAVE A GOOD TIME.
THEY DON'T MIND, UH, COMING DRIVING.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I FOUND OUT.
I EVEN HAD A COUPLE COME FROM ISRAEL TO STAY.
THEY FOUND ME ON AIRBNB AND THEY WERE DELIGHTED TO KNOW THAT PAMELA PARK WAS RIGHT UP THE STREET AND THEY DID VISIT IT.
SO I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK AT THE REVENUE THAT YOU'RE MISSING BY NOT ALLOWING COMMUNITIES TO HAVE AIRBNB.
WE DO WANNA FOLLOW, FOLLOW REGULATIONS AND BE ABOVE BOARD, BUT I USE IT AS A FORM OF COMMUNITY, UH, SERVICE.
I USE IT AS A, A FORM OF, UH, PUBLIC RELATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO SHARE A LITTLE LOVE.
AND I THINK THAT IF YOU OPEN THIS FOR DISCUSSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE ASSET TO THE COUNTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT.
IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP, WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
[7A. FY 2024-2033 Capital Improvements Plan (CIP)]
WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, TONIGHT.THE, UH, FIRST ONE IS, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, AND I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO MR. MAKI.
MR. MA, IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO GET BACK WHERE, OKAY.
SO WHILE YOU DO THAT, UM, FOR BOTH MS. JONES, THAT THAT CAME FORWARD, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, FOR THEM AND FOR YOU ALL, WE, THEY, UM, GAVE COMMENTS AT OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AS WELL.
AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT, THAT YOU COULD HEAR THE COMMENTS, UM, FROM OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PERSPECTIVE, THAT THE IDEA WAS FOR, FOR STAFF TO KIND OF DO AN INTERNAL TECHNICAL REVIEW OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, DEVELOP THOSE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO IT'S, IT DIDN'T GO ON DEAF EAR.
AND SO THERE IS SOME FINALITY THAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN THIS AFTER STAFF DOES THEIR TECHNICAL REVIEW.
SO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL BE DOING THAT.
SO HOPE HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU SOME SENSE OF NEXT STEPS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THE PLAN COMMISSIONER HEARD EVERY WORD YOU SAID IT.
THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE STAFF WHO ASKED ME TO ASK YOU, MR. MASTERAL, TO, HEY, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL LOAD TONIGHT, SO THAT I'M NOT GOING TO
SO ALVIN, WE, WE NEED TO PROBABLY GO TO, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO HEAR THE COUNTY BUDGET PRESENTATION.
SO IT, OH, IF YOU GO TO THE VERY END OF THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'LL SEE A, A SLIDE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
WHERE IS, SORRY, I HAD NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
YOU ALREADY GOOD, RIGHT? YOU'RE GETTING, YEP, RIGHT THERE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AT, AT OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ONE ANOTHER, UM, I WAS PRESENTING ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED FOR FY 24.
AND IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS THE, THE SHEET THAT, THAT LOOKED SIMILAR TO THIS SHEET.
AND AT THAT TIME FOR FY 24, WE WERE JUST UNDER $7 MILLION IN THIS, THIS CURRENT YEAR.
AND I TOLD YOU AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, THE SWEET SPOT FOR THE COUNTY IS TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, 7 MILLION.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, AFTER FY 24, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WE WERE LOOKING AT NEARLY 18 MILLION NEXT YEAR.
AND SO AGAIN, I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S, THAT WASN'T REALLY OPTIMUM FOR THE COUNTY AND THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY FOR THE PLAN.
NOW, WHAT I'M GONNA TALK THROUGH
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TODAY MAINLY IS FY 24, BECAUSE THAT'S THE YEAR THAT WHAT THAT THE BOARD AND I, THROUGH MY PROPOSED BUDGET HAVE FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR.UM, BUT I WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE OUTLYING YEARS.
BUT WE, WE HAVE, UM, OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 44 PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RECREATIONAL PLAN THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN ACTUALLY HAS SOME, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN IT FOR, FOR FACILITIES.
AND THEN, UM, THE COUNTY IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IS DOING A FACILITY STUDY.
SO EVERY SINGLE COUNTY BUILDING, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S OWNED OR OPERATED BY THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IS GONNA BE CAREFULLY EVALUATED FOR, UM, IT THE OVERALL BUILDING THEMSELVES AND, AND A REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE, SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT OF CERTAIN THINGS BEING A PART OF IT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, A, LET'S SEE IF TECHNOLOGY WORKS.
SO AT THE BOARD MEETING, IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO IF I WALK YOU THROUGH THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS, THIS, THIS IS WHAT HAS MADE MY BUDGET AS FAR AS THE CAPITAL PLAN AND JUST WANTED TO TALK THROUGH THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
SO, UM, THE, THE FIRST IS AN ELECTRICAL UPGRADE AT, AT SUNNYSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THAT UPGRADE IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO HAVE THE HVAC SYSTEM, UM, REPLACED BY NEXT YEAR.
SO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RECEIVED, UM, WHAT IS CALLED ESSER THREE FUNDING.
IT'S FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOLS, UH, VERY MUCH PART OF LIKE THE, THE AMERICA RESCUE PLAN ACT FUND.
SO THERE'S A DATE STAMP ASSOCIATED WITH TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE.
THOSE HAVE TO BE SPENT BY, BY THE END OF 2025.
THAT PROJECT COST US ESTIMATED TO BE A A MILLION DOLLARS.
AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU ASKED ME SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DOES THAT MILLION DOLLARS PAY FOR? SO WE WENT BACK AND TALKED, UM, TO, TO STAFF WITH THAT.
AND, AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IS, AGAIN, THIS IS A, A COMPLETE CHANGE OUT OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
SO THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM THERE IS FAIRLY DATED.
AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY CHANGING OUT THE, THE MAIN PANELS AND FEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND THEY BELIEVE WITH THIS UPGRADE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN ACTUAL QUOTE OF A MILLION DOLLARS, SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN ESTIMATE, IT'S A QUOTE, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO PUT IN THE HVAC SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
THE NEXT PROJECT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS, IS SCHOOL BUS REPLACEMENT.
AND AT THE LAST MEETING I TOLD YOU THE ESTIMATE FOR, UH, A SCHOOL BUS THESE DAYS IS AROUND $113,000.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS LOOKING AND HAD REQUESTED FOR FIVE SCHOOL BUSES TO REPLACED, BE REPLACED IN FY 24.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST FOR THOSE FIVE IS $565,000.
AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK SOMEBODY HAD ASKED THE QUESTION TOO, HOW FREQUENTLY DO WE REPLACE SCHOOL BUSES ABOUT EVERY 14 YEARS.
THAT'S NOT A, AN EXACT SCIENCE.
WE TRY TO GET AS MUCH USAGE OUT OF THEM.
WE, WE CAN TAKE 'EM TO LONGER RUN AREAS, TO SHORTER RUN AREAS, BUT 507 SQUARE MILE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE PUT A LOT OF MILES ON SCHOOL BUSES OVER THAT, THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UH, MOVING TO PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAD, UM, DELAYED LAST YEAR WHAT WE CALL OUR, OUR AUTO PULSE REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS, UM, AN, UM, A CPR DEVICE THAT, THAT HELPS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THOSE ON EVERY ONE OF OUR, UM, AMBULANCES AND FIRST RESPONDER VEHICLES.
SO IT'S 13 IN OF THOSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AGAIN, THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, AND I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE DEFERRING IT ONE MORE YEAR.
UH, THE COST OF BEING ABLE TO REPLACE THESE 13 DEVICES FOR THE COUNTY IS $175,000.
THE NEXT IS AN AMBULANCE REPLACEMENT.
AND SO AGAIN, THIS WILL REPLACE AN AMBULANCE THAT WE PRESENTLY HAVE THAT'S AT THE END OF LIFE.
UM, SO THE GOOD THING IS WE, WE, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO BUY SEVERAL AMBULANCES DURING, DURING THE COVID YEARS, THIS AMBULANCE, ONCE IT'S BEEN ABLE TO BE PURCHASED NEXT YEAR, WE WERE, WE ABLE, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A BREAK AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO AMBULANCES.
AND SO WITH, AS YOU ALL WERE TOLD LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, UH, SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT, WE'RE GONNA BE BUYING AN AMBULANCE OUTSIDE OF NEXT YEAR, ALMOST EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SAME THING WITH POLICE CARS, SCHOOL BUSES, AND SOME OF OUR FIRE APPARATUS.
SO THE NEXT IS THE, THE PAMPLIN BUILDING.
AS YOU KNOW NOW, THE PAMPLIN BUILDING IS, UH, HOUSES OUR SCHOOL BOARD ADMINISTRATION AND CENTRAL OFFICE AS WELL AS THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
AND SO WE CAME BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONTROL
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SYSTEM BEING NEEDING TO BE REPLACED.NOW IT'S ACTUALLY THE ROOFTOP UNIT THAT WOULD BE REPLACED, AND THAT'S A $300,000 QUOTE.
AND WE HAVE THAT FUNDED THIS YEAR TO DO THAT.
AT, AT THE END OF THIS, WE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PAM BUILDING.
UM, THE NEXT PROJECT WAS, WAS A PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECT.
AND SO FOR THIS, THIS IS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, THE DEITY COUNTY SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH BARRY DUNN JUST MENTIONED TO YOU, THE WORKSHOP, THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHT FACILITIES OF THE COUNTY.
THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN OF THE, THE SPORTS COMPLEX SHOWED FOR WHEN AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN, UM, THE, THE ACCESS ROAD THERE, RRB PAMPLIN DRIVE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT TOO.
SO AGAIN, SO TO THE, THE WEST OF THAT, UH, WE HAVE SOME LAND THERE THAT WOULD SHOW PHASE TWO OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
SO WE HAD, UH, HAD ASKED PARKS AND REC HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT AT THE, AT THE BOARD WHEN I PRESENTED THE BUDGET, WE PROBABLY HAD 60 PEOPLE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE BASKETBALL COURT FACILITY.
BUT IT'S A BASKET OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURT FACILITY.
IT WOULD BE TWO HIGH SCHOOL REGULATION SIZE, UH, COURTS, UM, SURFACE MARKINGS FOR BASKETBALL AS WELL AS PICKLEBALL.
UM, AND IT WOULD HAVE A 10 FOOT EXTERIOR FENCE.
AND I KNOW THIS GRAPHIC HERE, THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THIS GRAPHIC IS PROBABLY THE BETTER PIECE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS, UH, AN EXTERIOR FENCE OF 10 FOOT, AND THAT'S SO THAT THE BASKETBALL WOULDN'T BOUNCE OUTSIDE OF IT.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD KEEP IT, UM, CONTAINED.
AND IT WOULD ALSO HAVE DIVIDING THE TWO, THE TWO COURTS, UM, A FIVE FOOT FENCE IN, IN BETWEEN THERE.
AND AGAIN, IF WE WERE OPERATING PICKLEBALL ON ONE COURT AND RUNNING BASKETBALL ON THE OTHER COURT, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO.
SO THAT FIVE FOOT FENCE IN THE MIDDLE TO CREATE SEPARATION WOULD, WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
SO THIS IS ONE THAT WAS ONE OF THE LAST TO BE ABLE TO BE FUNDED.
AND, AND THE REASON, AND THE PROJECT COST US $379,000, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH SOME OF OUR AMERICA RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS.
AND WE RECEIVED A COUPLE SPECIAL FUNDS FROM THE STATE THAT HAD TO BE USED FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO, WE GET INTO 379 BEING THE TOTAL COST TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT COST BY 122,000 OR SO FROM GRANT FUNDS TO BRING IN THE TOTAL PROJECT TO 2 56.
THOSE OTHER ALTERNATIVE GRANT FUNDS, JUST LIKE THE S3 THREE FUNDS FOR THE SCHOOL, THEY HAVE SPECIFIC TIMELINES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT ON.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD TO DO THAT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS OF WHEN DOES IT OPERATE.
UH, IT'S NO LIGHTS PRE AND PROPOSED AT THIS.
SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD OPERATE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, THE OPERATIONS OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LIGHTS AT THIS POINT, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE DONE AT AT NIGHTTIME.
AND SO THE LOCATION OF IT IS ESTABLISHED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL COURTS LATER, YOU COULD, AT THIS POINT, THIS DOLLAR FIGURE DOES NOT INDICATE ANY, ANY PARKING ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, THE IDEA IS THAT THEIR PARKING WOULD BE IN THE FOOTBALL FIELD, PARKING, AND THIS WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT IF HAVING A PEDESTRIAN, UH, MOVEMENT BACK AND FORTH FROM THAT.
BUT PARKING AT THIS TIME WOULD BE DONE AT THE COMPLEX.
OUR NEXT IS OUR, OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, I TOLD YOU WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING, UH, VEHICLES, UH, ALMOST EVERY YEAR.
SO SIX PATROL VEHICLES ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE AND FUNDED IT IN THIS YEAR'S PLAN FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, WE HAD INDICATED THE MILEAGE THAT WE HAD ON MANY OF 'EM, WE HAVE 10 THAT ARE OVER 130, UH, THOUSAND MILES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UM, TOTAL PROJECT FOR SIX PATROL VEHICLES IS 232, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UH, WE HAVE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION, AGAIN, NOT, I KNOW WE HAD CONVERSATIONS, MR. TIPMAN HAD MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT OUR SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS TOO.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO FUND, UH, MORE REVENUE THIS YEAR AND EXPECTATION OF, OF THAT EFFORT.
AND SO WE'VE ADJUSTED THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY TO OFF OFFSET THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
NEXT PROJECT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WHAT IS CALLED MDT REPLACEMENTS, WHICH IS MOBILE DATA TERMINALS.
SO IT'S THE LAPTOPS AS, AS SHOWN HERE IN THIS EXAMPLE, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PATROL VEHICLES.
SO WE, WE HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN A-D-C-J-S GRANT AND KNOW THAT THAT GRANT FUNDING IS, IS, UH, PRETTY WELL ASSURED THAT IT'S GONNA COME IN.
THE PROJECT COSTS TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE UP TO 50 OF OUR MOBILE DATA TERMINALS WOULD BE $348,000.
BUT THE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING THAT'S GONNA PAY FOR THIS IS ABOUT 218,000,
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WHICH LEAVES A BALANCE OF 130 FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER.SO IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND THIS, THIS IS A GOOD SLIDE THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU A SUMMARY OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO THIS IS, THAT TOP PICTURE IS ACTUALLY THE GRAPHIC OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
YOU CAN SEE THE BASKETBALL, UM, COURTS IN THAT BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE OF, OF THAT GRAPHIC.
BUT, UM, IF YOU WERE TO, TO REALLY LOOK AT THE PROJECTS, THIS SHOWS YOU HOW WE'RE FUNDING THEM.
SO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST YOU'LL SEE IS THREE POINT, JUST OVER $3.3 MILLION.
ALTERNATIVE FUNDING READING LEFT TO RIGHT IS 340,000.
SO THE TOTAL IS ABOUT $2.9 MILLION THAT WOULD, WOULD BE COMING OUT OF.
UM, SO IT'S, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE WANTED TO SPEND, UH, BUT AGAIN, FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE ON OUR BUDGET, WE ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE TWO, $300,000 OF UNCOMMITTED, UM, FUNDS ON THAT SIDE.
SO, AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'RE WE WILL BE CLOSER TO THAT 2.5 MILLION NUMBER, UH, COMING OUT OF OUR, OUR FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, OF THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS, NOT THIS NEXT GRAPHIC WILL KIND OF JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF OUR, AS FAR AS THE, THE, UM, THE ALLOCATION OF IT.
YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE GRAPH AS THE DEWINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS RECEIVING ABOUT JUST OVER 1.5 MILLION OF THAT TOTAL, 3.3, UH, FIRE AND EMS WAS THE NEXT AT 485, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT 360 2, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS AT 300 AND THEN THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR THAT BASKETBALL.
AND THAT'S AGAIN, MINUS THE ALTERNATIVE FUNDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
SO JUST FOR, FOR THIS COMMISSION AND, AND FOR THE BOARD, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT THE VIRGINIA CODE ACTUALLY REQUIRES A FIVE YEAR CIP.
AND YOU KNOW, IN DENWOODY WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TO A 10 YEAR CIP.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE WARNING, YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF TONIGHT IS APPROVAL FOR FY 24.
EVEN THOUGH THIS GOES TO FY 33, FY 24 IS THE ONLY YEAR THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 10 YEAR PLAN.
UM, BUT I HAD TWO STRATEGIES THAT I PRESENTED TO THE BOARD THE MORNING PRESENTED TO YOU.
PROCE HAS BEEN A PART OF OUR CIP COMMITTEE FOR YEARS, UM, AND HOPEFULLY CAN APPRECIATE SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, ONE, AGAIN, WE NEED TO GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, UM, IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO CREATE AN INDEPENDENT REVENUE STREAM WHEN IT COMES TO THE REPLACEMENT OF, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING AMBULANCES EVERY YEAR, UH, FIVE TO SIX, UH, POLICE CRUISERS A YEAR.
UH, WE'RE IN BETWEEN FIVE OR SIX SCHOOL BUSES IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
WELL, IN SOME YEARS IT'S ALMOST EIGHT OR NINE SCHOOL BUSES.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT OTHER APPARATUS THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE AND EMS. IF YOU JUST DID THOSE THINGS ALONE, YOUR, YOUR AVERAGING ABOUT $1.8 MILLION A YEAR.
AND I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, WE ONLY NEED TO BE SPENDING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION A YEAR.
SO IF 1.8 OF IT EVERY YEAR IS GONNA BE DEDICATED JUST TO THESE SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT, IT DOESN'T GIVE TOO MUCH ROOM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR OTHER COMMUNITY ASSETS.
AND SO IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO DEDICATE THAT REVENUE OUTSIDE OF A CIP, IT WOULD FREE UP THE FULL TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WITH THAT NOT BEING SAID, SO I I, I NEEDED TO ALSO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHEN WE HAVE DEBT THAT IS COMING OFF THE BOOKS.
AND SO ONE OF THE STRATEGIES, JUST LIKE WITH THIS GOVERNMENT COMPLEX, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, THE RENOVATION OF THE I TO THE IT BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW, AND TO THE PAMELA UH, BUILDING WAS TO, TO LOOK AT WHEN WE HAD DEBT COMING DOWN AND WHEN THAT WOULD STAIR STEP DOWN, BEING ABLE TO ADD DEBT STRATEGICALLY IN THOSE YEARS SO THAT THE COUNTY'S NOT PAYING MORE THAN WHAT IT'S ALREADY PAYING.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO HERE IS JUST ILLUSTRATE THAT IN NOT FY 24, BUT NEXT YEAR WE HAVE 314,000 THAT'S COMING OFF THE BOOKS.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR PAYMENT ON A LARGER BORROW, POTENTIALLY IN 27.
IT'S ANOTHER 638,000 THAT COMES OFF THE BOOKS.
AND 29 754 ADDITIONAL, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS OF DEBT WILL COME OFF THE BOOKS.
AND THEN BY FY 31, THIS FACILITY IS COMPLETELY PAID OFF ALL THE, THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON THE COUNTY SIDE.
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YOU SEE A NICE MILLION DOLLAR DEDUCTION THAT COMES OFF THE BOOKS THEN.SO OVER THIS 25, 27, 29 AND 31 FISCAL YEAR PERIOD, YOU HAVE OVER $2.8 MILLION COMING OFF THE BOOKS.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL IN DEBT OF THE COUNTY OF, OF OVER 3.45 MILLION, 2.8 IS GOING TO BE SATISFIED OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO AGAIN, THE STRATEGY HERE FOR THE BOARD IS, IS SHOULD BE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR CASH AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.
AND IN THE INSTANCE THAT YOU WANT TO DO A BORROW, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THESE STAIR STEPPING DOWN A DEBT THAT WOULD HELP YOU FINANCE THAT OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, PERIOD OF TIME BASED ON WHATEVER THAT PROJECT MAY LOOK LIKE.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE OTHER, THE TOTAL 44 PROJECTS IN THE WHOLE 10 YEAR PERIOD, I JUST WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THIS POSSIBLY COULD LOOK LIKE.
SO AGAIN, INSTEAD OF US HAVING, WHEN I CAME TO YOU BEFORE IT WAS 18 MILLION NEXT YEAR, YOU CAN SEE IN FY 25, I'VE GOTTEN THAT BUDGET DOWN TO 4.1 MILLION.
AND SO THE GOOD PART OF THAT IS THAT'S, THAT'S STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS IN THIS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY, 'CAUSE I JUST SHOWED YOU THAT, THAT BOLDED YEAR OF 25, WE HAD SOME DEBT COMING OFF THE BOOK.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE, WE HAD A TANKER TRUCK THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE REPLACED THIS YEAR.
I MOVED TO NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE HAD ONE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED IN 26 AND I MOVED THAT BACK TO 25.
AND SO THOSE TWO TANKERS I HAVE AS A WOULD BE A BORROW, UH, IF WE DECIDED TO GO THAT ROUTE.
WE HAVE BETWEEN SCHOOL BUSES, POLICE CARS, AND FIRE APPARATUS.
UM, WE HAVE, THAT'S A BRUSH TRUCK AND A COUPLE OTHER, BUT ANOTHER 1.4 BILLION.
SO AGAIN, JUST LIKE BUYING CARS, MOST PEOPLE DON'T PAY CASH FOR CARS.
UH, THE, THE USEFUL LIFE OF BUSES, POLICE CARS, AND F FIRE APPARATUS IS USUALLY MORE THAN JUST A, A FOUR OR FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BORROWED THOSE BEFORE JUST TO DIVERSIFY THE PORTFOLIO A LITTLE BIT.
OUR RATING AGENCIES WANNA SEE AS MUCH CASH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT ALSO WANNA SEE A MIX OF, OF, OF CASH AND BORROW AND YOUR ABILITY TO PAY IT BACK.
SO AGAIN, 4.1 MILLION POTENTIALLY NEXT YEAR, FY 26 THEN GOES DOWN TO 2.8 MILLION.
UH, FY 27 YOU'RE AT 3.1 MILLION AND FY 28, 4 0.4.
SO YOU'RE SEEING THIS NUMBER GET MORE REASONABLE THAN WHERE YOU WERE WITH THESE LARGE PEAKS AT 18,000,009 MILLION THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAW.
AND WE HAVE TWO THINGS PROPOSED THERE.
ONE, YOU HAVE A FIRE ENGINE THAT HAS TO, WOULD BE DONE.
AND THIS IS WHEN WE HAD PROPOSED THE FIRE STATION, UM, AT, IN THE SUTHERLAND AREA, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE AT THE DIMITY COUNTY AIRPORT OR WHETHER THAT WAS OVERALL, UM, IN SUTHERLAND ITSELF, BUT THAT'S 7.7 MILLION.
UM, WE ALSO, THE DOANE COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU REMEMBER THE PRIORITY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, ONE OF THEIR TOP PRIORITIES FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR WAS LOOKING AT A TURF FIELD FOR, UM, A REPLACEMENT OF THE GENERALS FIELD.
UM, A LOT OF OTHER AREA SCHOOLS ARE DOING THAT.
PETERSBURG RECENTLY DID, PRINCE GEORGE RECENTLY DID.
UM, SO AGAIN, I SHOWED IT IN FY 29, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
AGAIN, IF IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PLEASURE, THE CIP COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD THAT COULD BE MOVED UP OR BACK DEPENDING ON WHEN WE WANTED TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT 1.8 MILLION WORTH OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING A, A BIG STAIR STEP DOWN TO DEBT.
THAT MIGHT BE A YEAR THAT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT.
FY 30, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 6.1 MILLION.
UM, AND AGAIN, A A LARGE PART OF THAT IS FERNDALE PARK.
AND IF, IF SOME REASON THE CITY OF PETERSBURG WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING AN INVESTMENT THERE ON ITS OWN, FERNDALE PARK WOULD COME OFF THE LIST.
UH, BUT WE ARE KEEPING IT AS A PLACEHOLDER HERE JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, FY 31, ANOTHER BIGGER YEAR, 7.8 MILLION.
BUT THERE'S THE BEGINNING OF AN IDEA OF AN, AN EXPANSION OFF OF THE DENWOODY MIDDLE SCHOOL, UM, TO, TO HELP OVER THERE.
AND SO WE HAD PUT THAT IN FY 31, THAT'S A $4.2 MILLION PROJECT OF THAT 7.8.
SO, SO MOSTLY HALF, MORE THAN HALF OF THAT IS IN THAT, THAT PROJECT.
AND FY 32 AT 4.7 AND THEN, UH, FIVE, JUST OVER 5 MILLION.
AND THAT WAS THE, UM, AGAIN, UH, SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS ABOUT 1.5 OF THAT.
AND THEN THE, THE AG CENTER THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO FY 24, WE MOVED THAT OUT TO FY 33 BECAUSE THERE'S NO LAND, UH, OR SITE IDENTIFIED FOR THAT, THAT LOCATION AT THE PRESENT POINT.
SO AGAIN, UM, FUTURE CIP OR SOME CONSIDERATIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE, THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES PLAN, AND THEN THE, THE OVERALL
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COMPREHENSIVE, UM, LAND USE PLAN AND, AND SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE THERE, THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE LAYERED INTO THIS.BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT FOUR FISCAL YEARS BEYOND THIS ONE, I WANTED TO, IF YOU'RE ON THE PLAN, WE WANTED TO REASONABLY BE ABLE TO SAY, IF YOU'RE ON THE PLAN AND YOU'RE FIVE YEARS OUT THE NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE FOUR YEARS OUT, THE NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE THREE YEARS, YOU'RE OUT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE FUNDING YEAR.
AND THAT IT COULD BE GIVEN SOME CONFIDENCE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUTSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAY BE HAPPENED IN THE ECONOMY THAT THIS, THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE YEAR THAT THEY'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
PROSITE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN STRIVING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS.
COVID KIND OF PUT US ON A, ON A BACK BURNER A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME OF THIS, BUT I KNOW AS A MEMBER OF THE CIP COMMITTEE IN THE PAST, THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO STRIVE FOR.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT I THINK WE, WE ADVERTISE THIS TO BE A, UH, TO RECEIVE COMMENTS IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CIP.
UH, WE HAVE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AT OUR LAST BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
THE BOARD'S INTENTIONS ARE TO TAKE ACTION AT THE MAY 16TH REGULAR MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY.
SO THE TIMING OF IT WORKED OUT WELL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THIS TO YOU ALL TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
UM, AND AGAIN, TO SOLICIT ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL.
BUT BEFORE WE, WE HAVE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY THAT I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER RELATIVE TO ANY OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS? I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MASSENGILL.
AS A NON-CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY, I'VE GOT SOME THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO HELP MY COUNTY.
YOU SAID THE TOTAL YEARLY CIPA AMOUNTS, WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO HOLD IT TO FOR, FOR DENWITTY COUNTY? IF, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK OVER THE LAST, NOW, LAST YEAR WAS DIFFERENT 'CAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY, UM, THAT WE USE.
BUT FOR DEWINE COUNTY OF A JURISDICTION, OUR SIZE, UM, WE, WE WANT TO KEEP THE CIP AROUND TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
SO OUR, OUR BOND RATING AGENCIES TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE, AND BASED ON THE CASH THAT WE'RE COMING IN, SO IN DEWINE COUNTY, WE'RE BRINGING IN REVENUE WISE ABOUT 56 MILLION, JUST 56,529,000 IN PROPOSED FY 24.
SO BEING ABLE TO PAY CASH FOR TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION A YEAR ACTUALLY STRENGTHENS THE COUNTY'S POSITION.
SO THIS YEAR, MOODY'S, UH, INVESTMENTS ACTUALLY UPGRADED THE COUNTY'S POSITION.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY DID THAT WAS THAT THE COUNTY HAS A STRONG HISTORY OF BEING ABLE TO PAY CASH FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO YOUR, YOUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET REVENUE IS 56 SOMETHING 50? YEAH, IT IS $56,529,428.
I'LL TELL YOU IN A MINUTE REASON I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
AND YOUR TOTAL COUNTY DEBT AT THIS SO TOWN, TOTAL COUNTY DEBT, WE HAVE TWO, TWO DEBT THAT WE, UH, THAT WE PAY FUNDS.
ONE IS IF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THE OTHER IS, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.
SO FOR THE SCHOOLS, OUR DEBT TRANSFERS JUST UNDER $2.5 MILLION.
AND FOR THE COUNTY THIS YEAR WE'RE AT $3.7 MILLION.
AND SO WHEN I WAS REFERRING TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE DECK COMING OFF, IT'S THE, IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THE 2.5 FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THE 3.7 FOR THE COUNTY.
THEY ARE PAYMENTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING, THEY ARE PAYMENTS TO THE, AND THE TOTAL DEBT THAT THAT REPRESENTS, OR DO YOU KNOW THAT, UH, IT SOMEWHERE, MR. DREWRY, I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 45 50 MILLION AT THIS POINT.
AND I'LL, YEAH, THANK YOU ALL FOR I, IN FACT, I WAS A STAFF MEMBER THAT TOLD US THAT.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAKE MR. MASSEN GIL QUICK THIS EVENING
BUT ANY, ANY INFORMATION Y'ALL WANT? YES SIR.
CHERRY COUNTY'S STRUGGLING AND NEED TO GET A BOND RATING.
THAT'S THE REASON I WAS ASKING YOU.
'CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL GOT A BOOK GOOD BOND RATING UP HERE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CIP MONEY THAT WE HAVE THAT'S IN THE RAINY DAY FUND.
HOW CAN THAT MONEY BE INVESTED? IS THERE LIMITATIONS ON A COUNTY AS TO WHAT THEY CAN DO BY LAW OR RESTRICTED TO DO? YES.
SO THE INVESTMENTS ARE HANDLED BY THE TREASURER'S OFFICE SPECIFICALLY.
SO I CRINGE A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT LIKE THE STATE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA THAT HAS A TRUE RAINY DAY FUND.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS AN UNDESIGNATED RESERVE FUND.
SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THE RESERVES AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT E FLOWS AS A CASH FLOW PERSPECTIVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE OUR UNDESIGNATED FUND THIS YEAR TO BE AROUND $21 MILLION COME JUNE 30.
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BUT I WILL TELL YOU AT THE PRESENT TIME, OUR UNDESIGNATED FUND IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND EIGHT OR 9 MILLION.AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HAVING TO MAKE PAYROLL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT GETS A LITTLE TIGHT THESE THESE TIMES OF YEAR.
UM, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UM, AVENUES TO INVEST COUNTY FUNDS.
THERE ARE LIMITATIONS BASED ON THE VARIOUS FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE ABRAM SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC, UH, INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS THAT WE CAN DO ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS A, A TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE CAN INVEST, THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE FIDUCIARY ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THAT THEY WISH TO INVEST.
AND THERE ARE POOLS OF FUNDS, AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS NOT THE AMOUNT, BUT WHAT TYPE OF SECURITIES CAN YOU INVEST IN? CAN YOU ONLY INVEST IN TREASURIES OR BONDS OF CERTAIN CERTAIN RATINGS, OR CAN YOU TAKE OUT CDS? CAN YOU DO THINGS LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S PRETTY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD SAFELY AND SECURELY EARN ABOUT FOUR TO 4.1% ON YOUR MONEY, WHICH WOULD MAKE A PRETTY GOOD DENT FROM $20 MILLION INTO YOUR BUDGET.
AND I ASSUME THAT THE AVERAGE, IF YOU'RE DOING TREASURY NOTES AND BONDS IS ONLY GONNA BE ABOUT TWO TO TWO AND A HALF.
NO, IT, IT, UM, I KNOW THE TREASURER ABOUT EVERY QUARTER AND SITS DOWN WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND, AND THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB RECENTLY OF, OF BEING ABLE TO, 'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THE, THE MARKET HAS SHIFTED, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THESE MORE LUCRATIVE FUNDS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
SO, UM, AND IT MAY BE, I MEAN, JUST AN IDEA, MAYBE IF, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF SUBJECT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MAYBE EVEN HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE BOARD AND HAVE SOME OF OUR INVESTMENTS TALKED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY A HELPFUL THING FOR Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND TOO.
'CAUSE FOR GOVERNMENTS RIGHT NOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LIKE BANKS HAVE HAVE CERTAIN STIPULATIONS.
THEY CAN ONLY LIKE, UH, I WANNA SAY THEY CAN ONLY INVEST IN B RATED, MAYBE C PLUS B RATED BONDS ARE BETTER, WHICH ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE LOWER YIELDING AND TREASURY NOTES AS OPPOSED TO TAKING OUT CDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE, THERE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED SOMEBODY ELSE WITH A DIFFERENT, UH, TITLE THAN MINE TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
BUT WE WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MR. MAS.
DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT, SIR? WELL, WE NEED TO HAVE A, I THINK A PUBLIC HEARING IS WHAT WE ADVERTISE, SO IF ANYBODY WISHES SPEAK, WE WANNA YEAH.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN FOR THE FIRST CASE, UH, 15 DASH 0.2 DASH 2 2 3 9 OR ANY BY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MR. MR. CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP BEING NO ONE'S SIGNED UP.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT ANY, WHAT YOU JUST HEARD? DO WE NEED A, A MOTION OR, UH, TO SUPPORT? YES, MR. CHAIR.
AND SECOND TO SUPPORT THE, UH, CASE THAT'S PRESENTED BY MR. MASS MCGILL.
UH, MR. GARL? MR. HARVILLE? YES.
SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING AYE.
MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS.
Y'ALL DOING A GOOD JOB FOR YOUR BOSS? I, AND HOPEFULLY I'M NOT SPEAKING AT THE TURN, BUT NO VIRGINIA CODE, IT'S ALWAYS EVERY YEAR WE GET TO THIS, BUT THE CIP AND IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF WHETHER IT'S NECESSARY TO BRING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR NOT.
AND SO I THINK SOME YEARS Y'ALL HAVE HEARD IT AND SOME YEARS YOU HAVEN'T.
AND KIND OF DEPENDING ON WHO LEGALLY IS HERE, I GUESS, AND WHETHER YOU CAN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY, AND I GUESS THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK IT'S GOOD
BUT, BUT HE'S GONNA TELL YOU THE FIRST SENTENCE IN THE, THIS IS WHAT DRIVES ATTORNEYS CRAZY.
IT LOCAL PLANNING COMMISSION MAY AND AT THE DIRECTION OF THE GOVERNING PARTY SHALL, UH, CONSIDER THE CIP.
AND THE SECOND SENTENCE SAYS, THE COMMISSION SHALL SUBMIT A PROGRAM A CIP ANNUALLY TO THE, TO THE
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BOARD.SO JUST TELLING YOU THAT, UH, IT'S IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A NICETY, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S NOT, SOME SAY IT'S NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED, OTHERS SAY IT IS.
SO IT'S THE REASON YOU SEE THIS, I THINK EVERY YEAR WE GET TO THIS AND WE ASK OURSELVES AND STAFF WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR? SO, WELL, I THINK, UH, IN THE, UM, UH, BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY, I, I THINK THAT ANYTIME WE CAN PRESENT THIS AT A PUBLIC HEARING SETTING AND ANYTIME WE CAN BE, UM, A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE COUNTY'S, UH, EFFORTS, UM, AT LE IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, TELL THE PERSON WHO TO CALL, UH, IS GOOD.
AND SO I I, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
BUT JUST LETTING Y'ALL KNOW WHY SOME LOCALITIES DO DO IT, SOME DON'T.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER COMMENT THERE TOO.
AND, AND, AND I THINK FROM A COUNTY STAFF PERSPECTIVE TOO, FROM, FOR ME AND MY ADMINISTRATION, WE, WE WANT TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
AND I THINK FOR YOU ALL, IT'S IMPORTANT AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL PROJECT SCOPE THAT WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS, AS WE ARE REZONING PROPERTIES AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING IMPACTS ON, ON OUR OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW FOR OVER 507 SQUARE MILES, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE CARS HAVING TO BE REPLACED AND, AND NOW YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH THEY COST AND THE, THE ANNUAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR SCHOOL BUSES AND THE IMPACT OF THAT, OR FIRE APPARATUS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S JUST HELPFUL FOR YOU TO SEE WHERE THOSE ARE AND WHERE SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY ASSETS ARE GONNA BE PLANNED.
AND SO, MR. DREW MAKES AN EXCELLENT POINT.
YOU KNOW, WE, EVERY YEAR WE DO KIND OF FIND OURSELVES IN THIS SIT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS DO WE WANT, IS IT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO? BUT IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
UH, LAST COUPLE YEARS BEEN A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGE 'CAUSE OF COVID.
WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT TO COINCIDE WITH THE, THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
BUT I THINK FROM FUTURE YEARS, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHERE WE ARE TO NOW, NOW WHETHER IT'S A HEARING OR WHETHER IT'S JUST YOUR ACQUIESCENCE OR AGREEMENT, BUT WE REALLY WANT YOUR FEEDBACK AND NOT JUST BE A, A RUBBER STAMP, SO TO SPEAK.
IF YOU, WE WANT YOU TO HAVE AN INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT AND TO HELP US PLAN FOR FUTURE YEARS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS TO ATTEND MY
[7B. CASE A-23-1]
OKAY.WE ARE READY FOR THE SECOND CASE.
UH, CASE NUMBER, A DASH 23 DASH ONE.
UH, THIS CASE THAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS A, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, AS A STAFF, WE, UH, REVIEWED THIS WITH YOU AT YOUR LAST, UH, MONTH'S WORKSHOP MEETING AND WHAT WENT OVER WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
UH, RELATED TO THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND, UH, THAT IS REVOLVES AROUND, UM, HAVING A DEFINITION FOR, UH, A USE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, PERSONAL SERVICES, AND ALSO ALLOWING FOR PERSONAL SERVICES IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, ASKING YOU ALL TO APPROVE, MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD TONIGHT IS, UH, AMENDING, UH, THE DEFINITION SECTION AGAIN TO INCLUDE A DEFINITION FOR PERSONAL SERVICES, UM, AS AN ESTABLISHMENT OR PLACE OF BUSINESS, ENGAGED IN THE PROVISION OF FREQUENTLY OR RECURRENT RE CURRENTLY NEEDED SERVICES OF A PERSONAL NATURE.
AND BY AMENDING THE EXISTING DEFINITION, UH, FOR RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS TO REMOVE PERSONAL SERVICES IN OTHER PERSONAL SERVICES USES.
AGAIN, UM, HAVING A STANDALONE, UH, DEFINITION FOR PERSONAL SERVICES AND TAKING THAT OUT OF OUR RETAIL, UH, BUSINESS USE DEFINITION.
AND ALSO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL TEXT AMENDMENTS, UH, WITHIN THE B ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE B TWO ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE WE'RE ADDING PERSONAL SERVICES IN.
AND THEN CONSOLIDATING ALL THOSE USES THAT WE HAVE IN BOTH OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, THAT ARE PERSONAL SERVICE, UH, USES.
AND, UM, DELETING THOSE SINCE WE HAVE, UM, JUST AN OVERALL, UH, ENCOMPASSING PERSONAL SERVICE USE, UM, THERE AS WELL.
UM, ALSO I THINK WE HAD MENTIONED IN OUR, UM, WORKSHOP MEETING RELATED TO THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT WE DO HAVE A BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY, UM, THAT'S LOOKING, UM, AT EXPANDING.
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HOSPITAL.UM, THE OWNER OF THAT, UM, WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND, BUILD A SECOND BUILDING ON THEIR PROPERTY, AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THAT BUILDING FOR ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES.
UM, SO WE HAVE INCLUDED, UM, ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES, UH, WITHIN THE PERSONAL SERVICES DEFINITION.
UM, BECAUSE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE THEY'LL BE REZONING AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY, UM, TO THE B ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW THEM TO, UM, BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT SECOND, UM, BUILDING ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM, AGAIN FOR, UH, ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A ANCILLARY, UH, REASON WHY WE'RE HERE THIS, THIS EVENING AS WELL.
UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, HAVING YOU ALL RECOMMEND THOSE, UH, THE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO MARK? YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB LAST MEETING.
KIND OF GIVES A HEADS UP, YOU KNOW, SO ALL THAT'S JUST LIKE IT WAS THEN.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. CHAIR, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION OR SOMEONE WILL MAKE UP A, UH, MOTION I MAKE WHERE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 5 AND 15.2 2 2 8 6 87.
THE ITY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICES, WARRANTS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
NOW, THERE B FOUR RESOLVED THAT THE ITY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS A DASH 23 DASH ONE AS PRESENTED TO BOARD SUPERVISOR.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION BEEN MADE? AND SECOND, THE, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS MR. GURLEY? MR. TUCKER? YES.
SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING AYE.
EIGHT DASH 23 DASH ONE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL OR WITH APPROVAL? I DIDN'T HAVE MY MICROPHONE ON.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SAY IT AGAIN?
UM, I GUESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL HEAR THIS IN NEXT MONTH OF, UH, JUNE OR WHAT? YES.
AND THAT PUBLIC, UH, HEARING WILL BE ANNOUNCED APPROPRIATELY? YES.
[8. OLD BUSINESS]
UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO OLD BUSINESS.IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS MS. JONES AND MS. JONES, THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING.
I JUST HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER OLD BUSINESS, UH, THE LILY POND SOLAR, UM, PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK, UM, AT THEIR MAY 16TH MEETING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THEY DIDN'T HEAR IT LAST MONTH, SO THEY'LL BE HEARING IT AGAIN NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
THEY'LL BE HOLDING PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE, UM, AFTER OUR, OUR HEARINGS ON IT, UM, THE BOARD DID RECEIVE A CITING AGREEMENT AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION.
SO THEY'LL BE CONSIDERING THAT AS PART OF THE REZONING CUP AND CITING AGREEMENT.
UH, ANY, ANY, ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? THAT'S ALL I HAVE MR. CHAIR.
ANYBODY, ANY NEW BUSINESS? NOT HEARING ANY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I HAVE NOTHING, MR. CHAIR, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
UH, HEARING NO COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, PLANNING
[11. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]
DIRECTOR COMMENTS? UM, I JUST, JUST GENERAL COMMENTS.[00:55:01]
UM, REZONING TYPE CASES, UM, WITH SOME APPLICANTS.WE'VE HAD SOME PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS AND, UM, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW, UM, AS SOON AS WE KNOW IF THOSE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA GO, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL AND LET YOU KNOW, UM, AHEAD OF TIME, WELL AHEAD OF TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU.
BUT, UM, I ASSUME I'M STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
I ASSUME THAT THE, UH, AIRBNB, UH, ISSUE WILL BE LOOKED AT.
YES, I KNOW WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THAT.
UM, IT'S GOT A LOT OF PLUSES AND MINUSES OBVIOUSLY, BUT RIGHT.
UH, MR. ROBINSON'S STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE HOPE TO BRING THAT AT ONE OF YOUR UPCOMING, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
I WANNA PUT ONE IN MY BACKYARD.
WE ALL IN AGREEMENT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.