[1. ROLL CALL]
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GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYBODY AND WELCOME TO OUR JULY 18TH, 2023 REGULAR MEETING OF THE DE WITTY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER? HERE, MS. MOODY? HERE.
UH, IF YOU WILL, WILL YOU STAND WITH ME AND DO THE INVOCATION, WHICH WILL BE OUR LORD'S PRAYER, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
OUR FATHER, JOY AND HEAVEN HALL BE THY NAME.
THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE ON, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES.
AND AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US.
AND THESE, NOT THE TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL OF I IS THE KINGDOM, KINGDOM, POWER, AND THE GLORY FOR EVER.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA]
ON OUR AGENDA IS AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA.DO WE HAVE ANY FROM STAFF? NO AMENDMENTS FROM STAFF.
MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY FROM SUPERVISORS? NO.
IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
SECOND ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.UM, ALL OF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, AHEAD OF TIME.
WE'VE GOT THE SUMMARY OF CLAIMS AND YOU GOT A VRA REQUISITION, UM, DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN'S SERVICES, PROVIDER CONTRACT AWARDS AND SURPLUS, UH, COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND A SET OF MINUTES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN? ALL I, I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED.
[6.A. Virginia Department Of Transportation]
TO REPORTS IN OUR FIRST ONES, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.MR. FRENCH, HOW ARE YOU THIS AFTERNOON? I'M WELL.
HOW ARE YOU? I'M, THANK YOU SIR.
UM, I HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT LIST THIS MONTH, THANKFULLY
THE CREW AT MCKINNEY IS BUSY UNDERWAY ON THAT PROJECT.
UH, THEY WERE DOING SOME WIDENING AND GRADING THIS WEEK.
UH, HOPING TO HAVE THAT ONE WRAPPED UP, UH, HERE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
THEY'LL PUT THE STONE ON IT ONCE THEY GET IT WIDENED AND THEN WE WILL GET, UH, A COUPLE SHOTS OF TAR AND ROCK ON IT.
UM, THE WATERFORD DRIVE, OR? NO, THE WATERFORD DRIVE CULVERS ARE DONE.
UM, THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE MOBILIZING ON THOSE TWO CULVERTS THIS WEEK.
WE WENT OUT THERE AND DID SOME PRELIMINARY WORK WITH SOME STATE FORCES LAST WEEK, UM, TO GET THE GRADE IN THE CULVERTS AND EVERYTHING.
AND, UH, BED FOR THE LINER THAT THEY'LL BE PUTTING IN THOSE TWO CULVERTS.
SO LIKE I SAID, THAT SHOULD BE GETTING DONE THIS WEEK.
AND THAT'S A, UM, TRENCHLESS AND RELATIVELY LOW IMPACT, UH, APPLICATION.
THEY'RE LINING THOSE WITH, IT'S A FLEXIBLE LINER.
IT GOES IN LIKE A SOCK AND THEY BLOW IT UP AND PUT, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY UV CURED.
PUT A UV LIGHT IN IT AND GET IT'S HOT.
IT'S, IT'S VERY INTERESTING LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, CATCHING THEM OUT THERE DOING IT.
AARON, WHEN DID YOU SAY THAT WAS GONNA BE DONE? THIS WEEK.
MAKE SURE I GET OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT.
UM, UM, OUR FOUR 60 TRENCH WIDENING PROJECT, UH, HIT A, UH, HICCUP WITH THE CONTRACT.
UM, WE ARE REBIDDING THAT CONTRACT.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT SECURED, WE WILL RESUME THE WORK ON THAT ROAD AND, UH, THOSE QUANTITIES THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED FOR THE TRENCH WIDENING AND PLAN TO CONTINUE TO ADD ADDITIONAL QUANTITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, WE ARE TRIMMING TREES ON COURTHOUSE ROAD THIS WEEK.
UH, RIVER ROAD WAS DONE, I BELIEVE THROUGH THE EARLIER HALF OF THIS WEEK AS WELL.
UM, AND A COUPLE MORE ON THAT LIST AS WELL.
OUR PRIMARY MOWING WRAPPED UP LAST WEEK.
SECONDARY MOWING IS UNDERWAY AND STATE FORCES DID SOME MOWING IN WEST PETERSBURG AND PINEY BEACH LAST WEEK AS WELL.
UM, ON MONDAY I'M MEETING WITH OUR DISTRICT RIVER MECHANIC TO LOOK AT THE CULVERT ON 6 22 ON BALTIMORE ROAD.
JUST BEFORE YOU CROSS THE COUNTY LINE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A PERPETUAL ISSUE WITH WATER OVER TOP OF THE ROAD, EVEN IN MINOR RAIN WILL OVER TOP THE ROAD.
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IN A FLOODPLAIN AND, AND A LITTLE BIT MORE HYDRAULICALLY COMPLEX THAN, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ANALYZE ON MY OWN.SO GONNA MEET WITH THEM AND UM, THAT WILL EVENTUALLY TURN INTO A PRETTY LARGE CULVER PROJECT, UH, LATER ON IN THE SUMMER.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE PASSING LANE? UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT I SENT A RESPONSE.
IT WAS LAST FRIDAY OR TWO FRIDAYS AGO.
I WILL LOOK INTO THAT FOLLOW UP THOUGH.
IF YOU CAN'T JUST GIMME SOME PAINT.
THEY WON'T KNOW
SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT PAINTED.
I CAN'T OFFER YOU TRAFFIC CONTROL TO DO IT
AND SOMEONE'S GOING, I'M TELLING YOU NICK, IT'S GONNA BE BAD.
SO, BUT IF YOU CAN'T GET IT DONE, I PROMISE YOU 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, MY WIFE WAS SHINING THE LIGHTS AND I WILL.
UM, I'VE GOT, UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, IN MR. MOODY'S DISTRICT BUT CLOSE TO MINE.
UM, IT'S A RESIDENCE OUT, UM, BUT IT'S A HOLE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL 'CAUSE EVERYBODY DRIVES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
BUT, UM,
SO IF, UM, AND I THINK THE RESIDENT TOLD ME THEY, THAT Y'ALL HAD FILLED IT IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT IT'S COME BACK SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHY IT'S DOING IT, BUT, UM, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE IT ONCE YOU GET THAT.
SO YES SIR, I WILL HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK AT THAT, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, YOU REMINDED ME OF A POTHOLE ON ZILLOW ROAD RIGHT AFTER YOU CROSS THE RAILROAD BRIDGE GOING SOUTH.
IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE LEFT DRIVER'S TIRE IS GOING TO HIT EVERY TIME IT GOES AROUND THERE.
SO I THINK YOU TOLD ME BACK A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT THE SURFACE TREATMENT THEY PUT DOWN WAS, WAS JUST A, UH, LIKE A BASE AND IT WAS COMING BACK LATER WITH SOMETHING ELSE ON THAT ROAD, BUT, BUT I KNEW THAT WHAT Y'ALL PUT DOWN WAS NICE AND SMOOTH WHEN YOU FIRST DID IT, BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC GOING AROUND THAT SLIGHT CURVE, ALL THAT WEIGHT GETS PUSHED INTO THAT CON INTO THE ASPHALT PAVING OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THIS IS ON, THIS IS ON ROUTE 6 42, 6 42 WHEN YOU COME OVER THE BRIDGE AND YOU GO ON, RIGHT? YES SIR.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THAT ROUTE IS ON THE SURFACE TREATMENT SCHEDULE FOR OUR NEXT SEASON, I BELIEVE.
UM, BUT ANY POTHOLE, I'D TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND TO GET ANY POTHOLES OUT THERE ADDRESSED AND IT'LL LIKELY BE ANOTHER ASPHALT PATCH, UH, LIKE WE PUT OUT THERE LAST YEAR.
MAYBE IF, IF IT'S AN AREA WHERE, IF IT'S IN THE SAME AREA WHERE WE PATCHED LAST YEAR, THE PATCHING THAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS MORE OR LESS A MILL AND FILL PATCH WHERE WE MILL IT DOWN A COUPLE INCHES AND FILL IT.
IF IT'S AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY POPPING BACK UP AND IT'S SHOWING ITSELF AFTER THAT SHORT DURATION OF TIME, WE'LL DIG IT OUT, TAKE AND DIG IT OUT ABOUT A FOOT OR SO, COME BACK WITH SUBGRADE NEW STONE.
UM, SO IT'S DRAINING AND NOT CONTINUING TO SINK HOLE THE REST OF THE AREAS.
Y'ALL DID SEVERAL AREAS AND THEY SEEM TO BE HOLDING UP PRETTY GOOD.
BUT THAT ONE AREA TAKES A LOT OF ABUSE GOING AROUND THAT CURVE.
AND THEN IT, IT COULD BE EVEN WHEN THAT ROAD WAS BUILT, AN OLD STUMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S WAY DEEP IN THE, THE ROAD THAT IS THERE AND IT HOLDS MOISTURE AND THAT, THAT CAUSES THE WATER TO COME UP AND CAUSES, CAUSES, THE SOFT SPOTS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, UM, OFF OF 2 26 SUNSET DRIVE OR ROAD, IT'S A, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING OUT AND IT'S A HOLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE COMING, UM, OUT TO TURN ON 2 26, IT'S A, ON THE EDGE, IT'S A HOLE.
SO PEOPLE SAID WHEN THEY COME OUT AND TURN, UM, THE CAR OR THEIR TIRE DROPS DOWN IN IT, BUT IT'S A, UH, AND I AND I SAW IT THE OTHER DAY, IT'S A NICE SIZE LITTLE HOLE RIGHT ON SUNSET.
SO THAT'S IN THE, IN THE RADIUS OF THE TURN.
FROM SUNSET ONTO 2 26, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT ON THE END, YOU KNOW.
MR. MATTHEW, YOU, HAVE YOU GOT ANY NO, NO, NO.
I'M GONNA RIDE AROUND AND LOOK SOME POTHOLES.
IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR POTHOLE LOTS OF WATER.
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BEEN THAT BAD THIS YEAR WITH THE LACK OF SNOW AND SUBSEQUENT LACK OF SALT THAT WE PUT ON THE ROADS THIS YEAR.SO HAVING, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEDICATE TIME TO SOME OTHER THINGS, THANKFULLY.
BUT, UM, IF Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING ELSE, AS ALWAYS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON.
[6.B. Route 460 Water Tank Painting]
REPORTS, UH, SIX B IS, WE'VE GOT THE ROUTE FOUR 60 WATER TANK PAINTING, MR. MASSIO.MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE WATER AUTHORITY, EDDIE PEARSON, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THERE IS, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, HE IS IN THE HOSPITAL, SO HE'S UNABLE TO COME HERE TODAY, UM, TO KEEP YOU MANY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
UM, BUT FOR, FOR YEARS AT LEAST GOING BACK FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE HAD INTEREST, UH, WHEN THE, THE FOUR 60 WATER TANK WOULD TO BE REPAINTED, UM, FOR THOSE, AGAIN, JUST OFF OF FOUR 60, JUST ACROSS FROM THE DENLEY SPORTS COMPLEX, SOUTHERN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WALMART.
UH, THIS IS THE, THE WATER TOWER THAT PRESENTLY HAS A STEP AHEAD, UH, WRITTEN ON THAT.
UM, SO THE, THE THOUGHT EVEN FROM THE BOARD IN PRIOR ADVANCES WAS THAT WHEN IT CAME AVAILABLE THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON WHETHER TO MAINTAIN A STEP AHEAD OR WHETHER IT'D BE TIME TO, TO MAKE A CHANGE.
UM, IF YOU DECIDE TO MAKE A CHANGE FROM A STEP AHEAD, WE HAVE THE, THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WON THE CONTEST YEARS, I GUESS ABOUT THREE DECADES AGO NOW, UM, TO PUT A STEP AHEAD ON THE, THE WATER TOWER.
SO THE THOUGHT IF WE MOVE TO MOVE FORWARD AWAY FROM THAT IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL COME TO A, A MEETING, PRESENT HER WITH A, A PICTURE OF THE WATER TOWER.
AGAIN, HER RECOGNITION OF, OF THAT, UM, TO THE, TO THE BOARD AND TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT WE ALSO, UM, HAVE STARTED TO WORK WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER OPTIONS.
AND SO, UH, I WANTED TO PRESENT SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ONE THING I DON'T DO IS PICK OUT COLORS AND, AND GRAPHICS.
SO I LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WANTED YOU ALL TO HAVE SOME INPUT TO THAT.
SO, MS. BROWN, IF YOU COULD, WE'RE GONNA SHOW A, A COUPLE, UM, GRAPHICS OF THE LOGOS THAT COULD BE PUT.
NOW SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE WATER AUTHORITY.
I WILL TELL YOU, THIS PROJECT INITIALLY WAS TO BE MOVED, UM, WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE NEXT YEAR, BUT THE WATER AUTHORITY WAS ABLE TO DO A RESURFACING THIS YEAR.
SO IT CAME MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY THAN THAN WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
UM, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, THAT THE WATER AUTHORITY HAS A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD IN GETTING THIS, THIS DONE, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS OR, OR THIS MONTH.
AND YEAH, SO THE THOUGHT IS WITH SCHOOL BEING OUT, THIS WOULD BE THE IDEAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PAINTING.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME GRAPHICS AND THEN FROM THERE YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR, YOUR INPUT OF WHAT YOU THINK AND WE CAN GIVE THAT BACK TO THE WATER AUTHORITY.
SO, MS. BROWN, SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GONNA SHOW THE SHAPE OF THE, OF THE WATER TOWER.
SO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS IS, AGAIN, THE OVERALL DIMENSIONS.
SO THE WATER TOWER AS IT EXISTS TODAY IS OVER 56 FEET WIDE.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THIS PARTICULAR SEAL, THIS SEAL IS OF NOT THE COUNTY SEAL.
IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY SEAL, BUT IT ALSO HAS THE DEMEE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITIES LOGO.
AND IF YOU WANNA SEE THE LOGO, UH, SPECIFICALLY YOU SEE IT ON THE RIGHT THERE.
BUT SHE ALSO, MS. BROWN HAS ANOTHER COPY OF JUST THEIR LOGO.
SO THAT LOGO IS A LITTLE BIT DATED, BUT IT IS THE, THE, THE INE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY LOGO.
IF YOU WERE TO GO TO VIRGINIA MOTORSPORTS PARK MOST RECENTLY, YOU'LL SEE THIS LOGO PUT ON THE VIRGINIA MOTOR SPORTS PARK, UH, WATER TOWER THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE TRACK.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'LL SHOW, UH, DIFFERENT THOUGHT.
SO THE CONCEPT, ONE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT CAME OUTTA THE WATER AUTHORITY WAS TO PUT, UH, YOU, DIY COUNTY MORE SPECIFICALLY HAS, UM, HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH FOOTBALL.
UH, THE SPORTS COMPLEX BEING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, THE WATER AUTHORITY PUT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU COULD DO SOMETHING FOR NAVY NATION, UH, BY PUTTING THE FOOTBALL HELMET WITH THE ICONIC OLD ENGLISH D IN CROSS SABER.
UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION.
I KNOW MR. CHAVIS AND DR. MOORE, WE ATTENDED A MEETING WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE WATER AUTHORITY.
THE THOUGHT IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA DO FOOTBALL, YOU COULD JUST DO THE OLD ENGLISH D AND THE CROSS SABER.
UM, AND THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION IN ADDITION TO THE, THE FOOTBALL HELMET.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUST TO DO THE FOOTBALL HELMET IN THE NAVY NATION
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COLORS, UH, IS ABOUT $9,250 TO PUT THAT.AND IT WOULD BE SIMILAR IN SIZE AS THE PREVIOUS, UH, THAT ACTUALLY SHOWED YOU THE DIMENSIONS.
AN ANOTHER OPTION IS TO STICK WITH THE SEAL, BUT PUT THE COUNTY SEAL ON IT.
AND SO IN, IN THIS OPTION, IT'S MULTICOLORED.
IT WOULD BE AGAIN, THE SAME, UH, SIZE AND SCOPE AS THE, UH, THE ONE WE SAW AT THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT IT'S THE, THE DEWIN COUNTY SEAL WOULD BE PUT, UM, ON IT.
THE COST OF THIS SEAL, AGAIN, 'CAUSE IT'S MULTICOLORED IS, IS JUST OVER $13,000 TO DO THAT.
SO I SHOULD HAVE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, IF YOU WANNA KEEP A STEP AHEAD, NO ADDITIONAL COST.
IT'S THE SAME PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UH, THE DEY COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY LOGO IS $7,000.
UM, THE FOOTBALL HELMET IS $9,250, AND THEN THIS ONE IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE AT $13,000.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAST OPTION THAT WE HAD, AND WELL, LET ME BEFORE YOU MOVE FROM THERE, MS. BROWN.
SO I KNOW THAT WE SHOWED YOU A SEAL EARLIER ABOUT TWEAKING SOME OF THE COUNTY SEAL TO, UH, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DENWOOD.
HE HAS SHOWN IN GREEN ABOUT MOVING MORE OF THE SEAL TO A, UM, MORE NAVY LOOK.
AND SO WE, WE SHOWED THAT TO YOU BEFORE AS A NEW AND IMPROVED SEAL.
UM, WE DIDN'T SHOW THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC 'CAUSE THE BOARD HADN'T NECESSARILY ADOPTED THAT, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPTION IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.
NOW, THE, THE FINAL, UH, GRAPHIC IS IF YOU WERE TO, TO SEE THE, THE HEADER, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'LL SEE OFF OF, UH, CHAPARRAL STEEL AU YOU'LL SEE THE, THE DIMITY COUNTY ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR WATER TOWER.
WE'VE HAD COMPLIMENTS OVER THAT OVER THE YEARS.
THIS WAS THE, UH, HEADER THAT'S ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
IT'S ON CERTAIN STATIONARY, BUT IT WOULD PUT DEWINE COUNTY ESTABLISHED 1752.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, WRAPPED AROUND THE, THE TOP OF, OF THE WATER TOWER, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE OVERALL SEAL OR LOGO AS A COLOR POTENTIAL.
SO IN YOUR MIND'S EYE, THERE'S TWO COLORS THAT THE WATER AUTHORITY RECOMMENDS.
ONE IS A LIGHT BLUE COLOR, WHICH TENDS TO BLEND IN MORE TO THE SKY, UH, WHICH YOU SOMEWHAT TRY TO HIDE WATER TOWERS IN SOME CASES.
SO THAT LIGHTER BLUE KIND OF BLENDS INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, ANOTHER OPTION THAT THE WATER AUTHORITY RECOMMENDS IS A LIGHT TAN COLOR.
SO REGARDLESS OF THE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LOGOS THAT YOU POTENTIALLY GO TO, YOU WOULD ALSO WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WHETHER YOU THINK A LIGHT OR BLUE OR A LIGHT TAN.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE WERE THE IDEAS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US BY THE WATER AUTHORITY AND SOME INTERNALLY HERE TO STAFF.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T PICK OUT LOGOS AND I DON'T PICK OUT COLORS, BUT I WOULD MORE THAN BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LEAD OR HAVE CONTINUED CONVERSATION OF THE BOARD ON WHAT YOU ALL BELIEVE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND AGAIN, THE WARD AUTHORITY WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK TODAY, IF POSSIBLE.
MR. ARMEE, THE COST ON THIS ONE, WE DON'T HAVE THE COST ON THIS ONE YET.
WE, WE SUBMITTED THIS TO THE WARD AUTHORITY LAST WEEK.
UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS GONNA CHECK WITH THE COMPANY AND BEING THAT HE IS IN THE HOSPITAL, HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, WE, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT MULTICOLORED.
WE THINK IT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN, THE MOST EXPENSIVE IS PROBABLY THE DEMEE COUNTY SEAL.
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE IN A, IN A, AT A BETTER PRICE RANGE AT THAT POINT.
MR. LEE, ANY COMMENTS AS WE GO FORWARD? ANY, ANY IDEAS? WHAT DO YOU, ANY ONE OF 'EM STICK OUT AT YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN? I, I KINDA LIKE THE LAST ONE PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT'S MORE GENERIC AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT FOOTBALL TEAM, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE A GREAT BASEBALL TEAM NEXT YEAR.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD SINGLE OUT CERTAIN TEAMS, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, BUT THAT ONE TO ME IS MORE GENERIC AND DOESN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY DOESN'T COST AS MUCH EITHER.
AND I KINDA LIKE THE TAN MYSELF.
IT'S JUST, BUT THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE A BLACK LETTERING WITH A TAN, BLACK, OR NAVY.
YEAH, YOU COULD, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANNA WORK TO SEE WHAT WOULD POP OUT.
THE MO I MEAN, I LIGHT TAN AGAIN, I DON'T, I'M NOT A COLOR PERSON, BUT, UH, YOU WOULD WANT IT TO SET OUT.
SO I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, IF WE COULD, IS JUST, DO YOU HAVE ANY DESIRE OF, I MEAN, TAN OR BLUE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TAN WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE.
IT'S LIKELY RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKELY BLUE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS HOLLOW BECAUSE I GUESS MY,
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I LIKE THE BLUE COUNTY SEAL, UM, ON A BLUE WATER TOWER, BUT I ALSO, UM, LIKE, LIKE THE WAY IT IS FOR NO COST, UM, TOO, SO I DON'T KNOW.I'M NOT GOOD AT THESE DECISIONS.
UM, I THINK, UM, TAN IS A NICE COLOR OF COURSE.
AND, UM, THIS LAST, UM, ONE WITH THE DENWITTY COUNTY VIRGINIA, I THINK IT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT OF MONEY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF A BASIC AMOUNT.
SO, AND WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT, WHAT GOES UP HERE STAYS PROBABLY 15, 20 YEARS.
I I LIKE THAT THE LAST ONE WE HAVE MM-HMM
I, I LIKE THE DITY, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY AT 1752, I THINK IT, IT GIVES YOU CONTINUITY THROUGHOUT, WHETHER YOU'RE ONLINE DRIVING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A STANDARD THAT'S THERE.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT IN NAVY.
I WOULD PREFER IT BEING NAVY'S NOT BECAUSE OF NAVY NATION.
UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD LOOK FINE ON THE TAN.
I THINK WE ALL CAN LIVE, IT'S DIFFERENT TOWN OF NAVY.
WE CAN, WE CAN MAYBE GET A MOCKUP OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT.
BUT I JUST, I THINK THEY WANTED TO GET AT LEAST SOME IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND WE GO FROM THERE.
ARE, ARE YOU OKAY US MOVING FORWARD WITH CONTACTING THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DID A STEP AHEAD TO IF, IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FROM THAT, WE THINK WE SHOULD HONOR HER IN THAT WAY? YEAH.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT SUBJECT.
THEN WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT GUIDANCE.
[6.C. Christmas Sharing Foundation]
WE'VE GOT, UH, SIX C AND THAT'S OUR FRIENDS FROM CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION IS WITH US THIS EVENING.MS. PITTMAN AND GUESTS, WELCOME.
I'LL SHARE WITH YOU OUR, UH, FLYER FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
HEY, DAN CALLED ME TODAY AND TOLD ME TO, HE WON'T WEAR PINK THOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, TWO PRESENTATIONS TO INCLUDE TODAY, BUT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SUCCESSES AND ABOUT, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WE DO SERVE.
THIS ORGANIZATION WAS ORIGINALLY AN ARM OF SOCIAL SERVICES, UH, MORE THAN 25 YEARS AGO.
AND IT GREW UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF KATHY YOUNG AND HER FAMILY.
AND TODAY WE HAVE A CORE GROUP OF APPROXIMATELY 13 PEOPLE WHO DO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR, UM, THE WHOLE OF CHRISTMAS SHARING.
BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 60 VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK WITH US, EITHER IN MOVING OUR TOYS OR SERVING ON DISTRIBUTION DAY, OR, UH, HELPING US COLLECT TOYS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE HERE AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO STAND SO YOU COULD RECOGNIZE WE HAVE OF OUR CORE COMMITTEE ON OUR FLOOR COMMITTEE.
MR. HOPE YOU'VE BEEN ON COMMITTEE BEFORE.
AND WE, WE, WE DO APPRECIATE THE, UM, EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE RUNNING IN THIS GROUP.
UM, WE OFFER APPLICATIONS STARTING IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, AND WE HAVE THREE SIGNUP DAYS FOR OUR CLIENTS.
WE VERIFY THAT THEY DO IN FACT LIVE IN ITY COUNTY AND QUALIFY UNDER OUR FINANCIAL PROCESS.
HOWEVER, WE DO CERTIFY FAMILIES SOMETIMES ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IF THINGS LIKE SEVERE ILLNESS WITHIN THE FAMILY A, A FIRE OR OTHER CRISIS THAT COULD OCCUR THAT MAY AFFECT THE FAMILY FINANCES.
WE COLLECT TOYS, BIKES, COATS, HATS, GLOVES, PUZZLES, AND GAMES ALL YEAR ROUND IN ORDER TO DISTRIBUTE THEM IN DECEMBER.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR FLYER, LOOK AT THE PORTION THAT TALKS ABOUT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
AND WE, WE WERE GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTING ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TODAY, BUT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT, UM, AS YOU COME DOWN THROUGH THOSE BULLETS THAT WE HAD TO 21 DIFFERENT CHURCHES WHO MADE EITHER DONATIONS OR SENT VOLUNTEERS TO US OR HELD TOY DRIVES FOR US.
WE HAVE, UH, 14 STOREFRONT BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS WHO PUT OUT COLLECTION BOXES.
AND WE, UH, END THE END OF NOVEMBER AND BEGINNING OF DECEMBER AND LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED OVER 800 TOYS FROM THOSE BOXES.
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UH, DEWINE COUNTY SAFETY FIRE AND EMT AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES AND YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM DO PROVIDE US WITH GREAT SUPPORT.DEWINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS PROVIDES US STORAGE FOR OUR WARES AND HELPS US DISTRIBUTE OUR INFORMATION THROUGH THE SCHOOLS TO HELP PEOPLE LEARN WHEN THEY CAN SIGN UP AND OFFERS US VOLUNTEERS.
DENWOOD HIGH SCHOOL CLUBS AND ATHLETIC TEAMS HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS FOR US.
AND THREE OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HOLD, UH, GLOVES AND HATS AND SOCK DRIVES FOR US.
WE HAVE MANY PRIVATE CITIZENS WHO DONATE AND WHO ADOPT FAMILIES AS WELL AS OUR CHURCHES.
WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM OF KNITTERS THAT MEET, UH, ONCE A MONTH IN THE DENWOODY LIBRARY AND LAST YEAR THEY KNITTED OVER FIVE, EXCUSE ME, 200 HATS FOR US TO DISTRIBUTE.
WE HAVE A GROUP OF MEN WHO COME TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER OUR BIKES AND THEY DO THAT IN THE ANNEX AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS AND THEY DO WHISTLE WHILE THEY WORK AS LIKE
AND SO WE HAVE A, A CLUSTER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE A ASSIGNED, UH, A DIFFERENT JOBS, SO TO SPEAK.
ALSO, UM, BECAUSE OF A SHIFT IN POLICY OF WALMART DISTRIBUTION IN CORPORATE POLICY THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR LOCAL, UH, STORE HERE, BUT WE HAD HAD, HAD GREAT SUPPORT FROM WALMART OVER THE YEARS, AND SO NOW WE ARE STILL GETTING SUPPORT FROM THEM.
BUT IS IT IN THE FORM OF GRANTS RATHER THAN ACTUAL TOYS AND BICYCLES? SO WE ARE NOW FORCED TO, UM, LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDS AND WE ARE INTO THE POINT OF RAISING FUNDS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD TO DO IN THE PAST.
SUSAN CARSON, ONE OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBERS HAS STEPPED UP AND, UM, JUMPED IN WITH WRITING GRANTS AND, UH, WE WERE SO APPRECIATIVE OF HER DOING THAT.
LAST YEAR WE SERVED OVER 403 CHILDREN IN DIMITY COUNTY FROM THE AGES OF INFANT UP TO 14.
260 OF THOSE CHILDREN, UH, WERE SERVICED AT THE, UH, ENHANCEMENT CENTER ON DISTRIBUTION.
THE FAMILIES WERE SPONSORED BY CHURCHES AND PRIVATE FAMILIES, 46 CHILDREN WHO WERE OLDER THAN THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE.
WE REFERRED THEM TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF MAKING SURE, BECAUSE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS WE WERE GIVING CHRISTMAS TO THE KIDS UNDER AGE 14.
AND THAT FAMILY AND THAT SAME FAMILY HAD A 17-YEAR-OLD.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE SOME CHILDREN IN THE FAMILY HAD SOMETHING FOR CHRISTMAS AND OTHERS NOT.
SO SOCIAL SERVICES WAS A GREAT HELP AS WELL AS WESTERN HEIGHTS CHURCH.
LOOK AT YOUR FLYER TOO, ON THE SECTIONS THAT SAYS HOW YOU CAN HELP.
WE PROVIDED OUR DATES FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'LL BE MOVING OUR STUFF ON DECEMBER THE 12TH, AND OUR DISTRIBUTION DAY WILL BE DECEMBER THE 13TH.
WE DO HAVE A SATURDAY MORNING THAT WE HAVE OUR 13, 14 YEAR OLDS GO TO SHOP AT TARGET.
AND LAST YEAR WE HAD SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME AND WALK WITH THAT FAMILY TO HELP THEM SHOP.
AND WE PROVIDED THEM WITH A $100 THAT THEY COULD USE TO PICK OUT, UH, TOYS FROM THERE.
UM, YOU CAN DONATE FUNDS OR SOME ORGANIZATION THAT YOU BELONG TO CAN DONATE FUNDS.
AND OF COURSE, ON DISTRIBUTION DAY AND MOVING DAY, WE HAVE TO FEED THOSE 60 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HELPING US.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME GREAT HELP FROM OUR COMMUNITY AS FAR AS LUNCH AND, AND, UH, BREAKFAST ON THOSE TWO DAYS.
UM, TONIGHT WE WILL HAVE PRESENTA TWO PRESENTATIONS AND ONE IS FOR OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER OF THE YEAR, AND THAT SUSAN CARSON WILL BE DOING THAT, FOLLOWED BY LITTLE STEWART WHO WILL BE PRESENTING YOU WITH THIS YEAR'S CHRISTMAS MOTHER.
AND I HAVE MS. CARSON COME UP.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD AND KEVIN.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
UM, I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER THIS YEAR.
IT'S GONNA BE WILLIAMS CONTRACTING.
SO THEY HEARD THAT WE LOST OUR BIG SPONSOR OF WALMART AND HOW THEY HAD DONATED TOYS IN THE PAST AND THEY STEPPED UP.
UM, WE HAD ONE DELIVERY WHERE THEY DELIVERED 350 TOYS AT ONE TIME AND BIKES, AND THEY CONTINUED TO CHALLENGE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES TO COLLECT TOYS.
AND THEY MADE TWO MORE DONATIONS AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, RONNIE AND MORGAN BOTH HAVE BUSINESS HERE IN DENWITTY, UH, RONNIE'S FROM DENWITTY.
UM, BUT WE WANNA RECOGNIZE THEIR HARD WORK IN STEPPING UP FOR US.
UM, WE'D BEEN SHORT FOR SURE IF THEY HADN'T STEPPED UP.
SO, RONNIE, WILL YOU COME FORWARD? I'M GONNA PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD.
YOU ALL CAN HANG UP AT THE BUSINESS, UM,
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JUST RECOGNIZING ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO CHRISTMAS SHARING, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE A CHALLENGE OF CHRISTMAS IN JULY AT THE FITNESS TANNING SALON THIS YEAR.THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US.
UH, THIS IS VERY SPECIAL OCCASION FOR US, UH, AT CHRISTMAS SHARING.
I'M LILLIAN STEWART, AND I SERVE AS THE TREASURER FOR THE CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION.
AND THIS EVENING, THIS AFTERNOON, WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE 23 CHRISTMAS MOTHER.
UM, AND WE ARE SO GLAD THAT SHE ACCEPTED THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
NONE OTHER THAN BARBARA SAT BROWER.
BARBARA IS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF DENWITTY COUNTY WHERE SHE GREW UP WHEN A HOUSEHOLD WITH SEVEN CHILDREN AND HER PARENTS INSTILLED IN HER AND, UH, THE CHILDREN OF THE HOUSEHOLD THAT HELPING THOSE LESS FORTUNATE WAS IMPORTANT AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UH, BARBARA, UH, CURRENTLY IS A MEMBER OF OLIVE BRANCH BAPTIST CHURCH, WHERE SHE SERVES AS SECRETARY TREASURER OF THIS, UH, TRUSTEE MINISTRY.
UM, SHE, UH, WORKS WITH THE FINANCE, UH, MINISTRY.
UM, SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE USHER BOARD AND SHE ALSO SERVES AS A PASS AID FRIEND AND TAKES A LOT OF PRIDE IN HELPING TO KEEP THE BUILDING IN GOOD REPAIR.
IN ADDITION TO ALL THE MEMBERSHIP, UH, AFFILIATION THAT SHE HAS, SHE STILL FINDS TIME TO BE HELPFUL TO ANYONE WHO COMES TO HER FOR NEED, WHETHER SOMETIMES, EVEN WHETHER THEY ASK HER OR NOT.
IF SHE SEES A NEED, SHE JUMPS RIGHT IN WITH HER TIME AND HER RESOURCES.
MRS. BROWER AND HER HUSBAND JERRY STARTED, UH, BROWDER'S TOWING YEARS AGO.
THIS BUSINESS AND BARBARA ARE FULLY VESTED IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICE WORK.
LAST YEAR, THE BRODERS, UH, TOWING HAD NUMEROUS TRUCKS IN THE CHRISTMAS PARADE THAT DIDN'T WITH THE CHRISTMAS PARADE.
AND THEY SERVED A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY GROUPS BY PROVIDING HELP WITH THE, UH, TOWING THEIR FLOATS.
BARBARA AND HER BUSINESS PROVIDES BIKES EACH YEAR TO SOUTHERN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO BE USED FOR THEIR INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
EACH YEAR, THE BARBER OF THE BROWDER'S, UH, TOWING ADOPTS A FAMILY FROM DENWITTY CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION.
UM, SHE STATES THAT SHE PRAYS THAT THESE FAMILIES THAT SHE HAS BLESSED CAN BLESS SOMEONE ELSE THEMSELVES.
IN THE FUTURE, BARBARA'S COWORKERS AND HER FAMILY CONTRIBUTE TO THE DENWITTY FOOD BANK.
SHE HAS A FRIEND, JUANITA, WHO IS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE FOOD BANK, AND THEY MAKE THEIR DONATIONS IN HER HONOR.
DENWITTY HIGH SCHOOL ENJOYS THE SERVICES OF BROWDER TOWING AROUND PROM TIME, AND I THINK WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT BY PROVIDING A WRECKED CAR ON DISPLAY IN THE, ON THE LAWN AREA.
THE WRECK CAR HELPS, UH, TO REMIND THE STUDENTS TO DRIVE CAREFULLY DURING THAT, UH, SPECIAL TIME.
BARBARA HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER OVER THE YEARS AT DENWITTY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, DENWITTY MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND DENWITTY HIGH SCHOOL.
BARBARA IS A MOM, A GRANDMOM, A BUSINESS OWNER, CHURCH MEMBER, AND OUTSTANDING CITIZEN.
THE DENWOODY CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR 2023 CHRISTMAS MOTHER IS NONE OTHER THAN BARBARA BRODER.
WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? WE WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU STARTED BY PRESENTING YOU THIS TOKEN.
IT SAYS, DENWITTY CHRISTMAS SHARING.
BARBARA BOWER CHRISTMAS MOTHER, THANK YOU.
I GIVE HONOR TO GOD FOR USING ME AS A VESSEL TO BRING TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY TO SOME OF THE, OF HIS CHILDREN.
AND NOT JUST THE CHILDREN, BUT TO THE PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS AND ANY RESIDENTS, DENWOODY COUNTY THAT HOPE CAN BE EXTENDED TO MY MISSION AS DENWOODY COUNTY'S CHRISTMAS SHARING MOTHER IS TO CONVEY, CONVEY TO THE PEOPLE WHO DWELLS IN THE HOMES OF UNCERTAIN UNCERTAINTY, THAT THE COUNTY'S BODY CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR MENTAL STATE AT A TIME
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WHEN OTHER FAMILIES ARE ENJOYING WHAT IS ALREADY AT THEIR FINGERTIPS.EVERY YEAR, DISCOMFORT SURFACES, FIRE DESTROYS HOMES, MOTHERS AND FATHERS GET LAID OFF WHILE THE RENT AND THE LIGHT BILL STILL NEEDS TO BE PAID.
SO THEY ASK THEMSELVES, HOW DID I GET HERE? AND NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR OUR CHILDREN? MY MISSION AS THE CHRISTMAS SHARING CHRISTMAS MOTHER, IS TO ROLL UP MY SLEEVES BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
FIRST OF ALL, WHEN ANYONE CONGRATULATES ME, I WILL SAY THANK YOU KINDLY.
CAN YOU JOIN FORCES WITH ME? OUR FAMILY NEEDS OUR HELP.
WE HAVE TO DO BETTER TO BE BETTER.
CHRISTMAS IN JULY IS A GREAT TIME TO GET STARTED.
OUR HEAVENLY FATHER WANTS US TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND DO HIS WORK IN AND OUT OF SEASON.
SECONDLY, I WILL, AND SOME OF MY FAITHFUL SUPPORTERS WILL TRAVEL TO CHURCHES, BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY AUTO PARTS STORES, AMAZON, WALMART, VIRGINIA MOTOR SPORTS PARK, AND ALL TOWING COMPANIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
WE HAVE PLAN TO ASK FOR DONATIONS.
THIRDLY, MY VISION AND DESIRE IS TO HAVE THE BIGGEST CHRISTMAS PROGRAM AS A FUNDRAISER, ONE THAT ITY COUNTY HAS NEVER WITNESSED BEFORE.
I WILL LOCATE A PLACE THAT WILL ALLOW THE CHRISTMAS SHARING MOTHER AND SUPPORTERS TO COME IN FREE OF CHARGE, PLAN A PROGRAM WITH TWO HOURS MAX LIVE STREAM, AND INVITE WAYNE KOVAL TO ATTEND EACH AND EVERY ONE THAT ENTERS, BRING A TOY GIFT OR A DONATION.
I WILL EXPECT ALL POLITICIANS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE OLIVE BRANCH BAPTIST CHURCH THAT HAS CAMPAIGNED FOR OFFICES TO SUPPORT ALL, ALL, UM, AND OF ALL BOARD OF VISOR MEMBERS, SHERIFF OFFICE, COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, AND THE COMMITTEE BOARD.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE BANKS.
THE CHRISTMAS SHARING PROGRAM AGENDA CONSISTS OF FIVE PERSONS SPEAKING ON THEIR HARDSHIPS, SACRIFICES, AND WHAT SOMEONE DID FOR THEM TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES.
I WOULD INVITE TWO SOLAS TO SING TWO SONGS, EACH SONGS OF LOVE AND JOY.
INVITE TWO GROUPS TO SING CHRISTMAS CAROLS.
INVITE CHILDREN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT CHRISTMAS MEANS TO THEM.
I WOULD SHARE THAT SOMETIMES CHILDREN MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THE GIFTS OR TOYS THAT THEY RECEIVE, BUT WHEN SOMEONE GIVES THEM SOMETHING, WHEN THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WEREN'T, WERE NOT GETTING ANYTHING.
JUST THE JOY ON THEIR FACE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE SOMETHING.
IT'S JUST JOY BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW THAT SOMEONE CARES ABOUT THEM.
AND LASTLY, I WILL INVITE MY PASTOR, THE REVEREND, DR.
KEVIN M NORAM, TO BEGIN THE PROGRAM WITH PRAYER AND END THE PROGRAM WITH PRAYER.
MY TASK FOR HIM IS TO, FOR HIM TO INVITE EACH AND EVERY REVEREND MINISTER BISHOP THAT HE IS ASSOCIATED WITH, TO COME OUT WITH THEIR SUPPORT.
I HAVE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THE PERSON THAT GIVES GIFTS REWARDED.
I HAVE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT A PERSON THAT GIVES GIFTS ARE REWARDED IN THEIR HEARTS.
AND MOST OF ALL, GOD IS PLEASED.
THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTY SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
AS WE GROW AND MATURE, WE ALL WILL BE BLESSED.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO MS. BROWDER AND THOSE WHO HAVE COME TO SUPPORT US.
THE LAST THING I WANT YOU TO DO IS TO LOOK AT THE CLIENT INFORMATION.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE ASK OF OUR CLIENTS FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FOR US.
IT GIVES YOU DATES WHERE THEY CAN APPLY AND WHAT THEY NEED TO BRING WITH THEM.
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WE'LL BE DISTRIBUTING THESE, UM, FLYERS OR BROCHURES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.AND ALSO WE DO SEND INFORMATION HOME THROUGH OUR SCHOOLS UP THROUGH GRADE SIX, BECAUSE THAT'S THE AGES THAT WE, THAT WE DO SERVE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO COME AND PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT THIS GROUP ALREADY GETS FROM THE COUNTY, FROM YOU, FROM THE OTHER, UM, UH, THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WELCOMING.
THE, THE REC DEPARTMENT, THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE AND EMT AND THE SCHOOLS.
IT IS TRULY A, UH, A WHOLE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND DO APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS PERTAINING TO I'M GONNA SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM,
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE FAMILIES AND THE KIDS REALLY ENJOY RECEIVING THE, UH, THE GIFTS DURING CHRISTMAS TIME.
AND AS SOMEONE SAID, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE LAID OFF AND THINGS, UM, THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO SHARE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS GONNA LOOK OUT AND TRY TO HELP THEM.
AND, UM, AND, AND MS. BROWNIE, YOUR SPEECH WAS, UM, AWESOME.
IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY.
AND, UM, UM, AND, UH, YOU HAD, UM, JUST, UH, GIVE PEOPLE HOPE AND, UM, AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE, I THINK YOU CALLED OUT EVERYBODY FOR US TO COME.
SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW UP
YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GONNA PLAN SOMETHING BIG, SO WE, WE ARE GONNA KIND OF HOLD YOU TO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA BE THERE TO TRY TO HELP YOU, UM, CARRY IT OUT.
AND I SEE YOUR PASTOR BACK THERE.
I KNOW HE, YOU KNOW, HE WAS SMILING, SO I KNOW HE'S GONNA BE ON BOARD, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CONTACT PEOPLE AS WELL.
REVEREND KNEW HIM, BUT, UM, YES.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE THE, UM, CHRISTMAS MOTHER THIS, UH, FOR THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, WE HOPE THAT, UM, EVERYTHING WORKS OUT WELL AND WE KNOW IT IS.
AND MS. PITTMAN HAS JUST BEEN A EXCELLENT PERSON DOING THIS FOR YEARS.
AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BUSY DOING EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT SHE IS STILL HERE DOING THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THANK AND THANK THE COMMITTEE ALSO.
I THINK THE, THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, UM, IS, UM, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS IS, UM, THE DIFFERENT GROUPS FROM ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY, FROM HUNT CLUBS AT HILTON MM-HMM
UM, TAKE TOYS FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
UM, I KNOW AT WORK WE, WE HAVE A BOX AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPETITION BETWEEN, UH, FEDERAL AND STATE, UH, IN OUR OFFICE WHO, WHO CAN FILL THE BOX UP THE BEST.
UM, SO, BUT IN THE END, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S FOR A GOOD, GOOD CAUSE AND, AND, UH, IT TRULY IS COUNTY CITIZENS GIVING BACK TO COUNTY CITIZENS.
NOW, I, I DID SEE MR. NORTON BACK THERE, REVEREND NORTON,
AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU REALLY ENJOY DOING THE WHOLE TIME I'VE EVER KNOWN YOU.
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO LOVE TO SERVE.
AND EVERYONE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TIME TO STEP OUT AND BE WILLING TO SERVE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HARD WORK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE HEART FOR IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE HEART FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, SO GOD GIVES ALL OF US AN ABILITY TO SERVE.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS STEP UP AND DO IT.
MS. BROWDER, I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
UH, YOU DID A GREAT SPEECH AND I YOU MADE A BIG PICTURE THERE.
AND SO YOU MAKE THAT BIG PICTURE, IT MAKES US STEP OUT AND DO MORE TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU, THAT'S WHAT YOU PROJECT.
AND MS. PITTMAN, MS. PITTMAN'S ALWAYS OUT THERE REACHING TO MAKE THINGS BIGGER TOO.
SO, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF YOU DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR KIDS AND EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE LAST, THE WHOLE TIME WE'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I THINK IT'S GOTTEN MM-HMM
BIGGER EACH YEAR, THE PEOPLE STEPPING UP AND BEING WILLING TO, TO SERVE.
YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE I SAY, GOD PUTS IT OUT THERE AND IT'S LEFT UP TO US TO STEP UP AND WE'RE GONNA BE BLESSED FROM IT.
YOU KNOW, WE GET BLESSED EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING THAT GOD LEADS US TO DO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
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GOD BLESS MR. JUST ONE POINT A POINT MS. BRI MADE BY THE GIVER.UH, IF THE PERSON GIVES FROM THE HEART, THEY REALLY RECEIVE A LOT MORE THAN AMEN.
BECAUSE IT REALLY, IT REALLY, WHEN YOU GIVE SOMETHING OUTTA YOUR HEART, IT REALLY MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.
MS. BRADER, THANK YOU FOR, FOR STEPPING UP.
I'VE SAID A LONG TIME THAT WE ARE GOD'S HANDS AND FEET IN HIS MOUTH HERE ON EARTH.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION AND WHAT YOU, THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS MM-HMM
I'M GONNA PUT PASTOR NORTHERN BACK THERE ON THE SPOT BECAUSE WE UP HERE ARE NOT AFRAID TO PRAY.
YOU MADE A COMMENT IN THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA START THAT YOUR MINISTRY, 'CAUSE THIS IS A MINISTRY BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS WITH A PRAYER FROM THE PASTOR.
SO I'M GONNA ASK PASTOR, NOR IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND JUST PRAY FOR CHRISTMAS SHARING.
I'M, I'M NOT AFRAID OF PRAYING IN THIS ROOM.
IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING AND DOING THAT BLESSING, THE CHRISTMAS SHARING, AS WE CALL FORWARD BLESSING, MS. BROWDER AND HER FAMILY AND EVERYBODY WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THIS SERVICE.
GOD, YOU HAVE SEARCH OUR HEARTS.
YOU HAVE HEARD OUR STATEMENTS, YOU KNOW OUR MINDS.
AND LORD, WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE GREATEST GIVER AND YOU LOVED US SO MUCH THAT YOU GAVE AND THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE TO OTHERS.
SO LORD, WE COME, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU YOU FOR THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU WILL GIVE.
AND GRANT, WE THANK YOU FOR THE SPIRIT OF GIVING.
AND I ASK THAT YOU WOULD NOT ONLY GOVERN AND GUIDE THE PATHS OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHRISTMAS SHARING, BUT SPECIFICALLY OUR CHRISTMAS SHARING MOTHER.
LORD, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD NOT ONLY INSTILL THE STRENGTH AND EQUIP HER WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, LORD, THAT ULTIMATELY WILL REACH THE MASSES.
AND THAT THIS COUNTY WILL KNOW THAT THERE'S LOVE AND THAT THERE'S LOVE IN THE AIR.
SO, LORD, WE TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT, UH, ALL THAT WE INSPIRE TO DO THAT YOU WILL NOT ONLY, UH, BLESS THE CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION, BUT ALL THAT LABOR, ALL THAT SERVE THAT ULTIMATELY LORD, YOU WILL GET THE GLORY FROM IT.
AND YOU WILL BE HONORED AND ALL THAT IS DONE.
WE THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE LEADERSHIP.
AND WE ASK THAT, LORD, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD GOD AND GOVERN SO THAT WE WILL BE THE RECIPIENTS OF THE JOY THAT COMES FROM GIVING.
WE BLESS YOU NOW AND WE THANK YOU.
THIS IS OUR PRAYER AND THY NAME.
[7.A. Sports Complex Right Of Way Approval]
WE'VE GOT SOME ACTION ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS AFTERNOON.AND OUR FIRST ONE IS UNDER SEVEN A.
IT'S A SPORTS COMPLEX RIGHT OF WAY APPROVAL.
MR. CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS, MR. MAGU, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT UM, JULY IS A SPECIAL SPECIAL MONTH.
UM, NOT ONLY IS IT PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, BUT PARKS AND RECREATION CELEBRATES ALL OF THE, THE, THE WONDERFULNESS OF PARKS AND RECREATION AT A NATIONAL LEVEL.
THERE IS A DAY WITHIN THAT MONTH THAT IS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY HALL IN ITSELF, AND THAT IS BOARD MEMBER DAN LEE'S BIRTHDAY.
IF THIS WAS NOT SUCH A FORMAL SETTING, I BREAK OUT THE SONG AND DANCE, BUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY BOSS OVER THERE, I LIKE MY HEAD WHERE IT IS.
I DON'T WANT MY TO STARE FROM MY BOSS TO DISPLACE MY HEAD IN A PLACE THAT IS NOT DESIGNATED.
AND I WOULD NOT WANT ANY OF MY BOSSES IN FRONT OF ME TO FOLD UP A WRITTEN REPRIMAND IN A FORM OF AN AIRPLANE AND FLOAT IT OVER TO ME FOR SIGNATURE.
SO I'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BOARD MEETING.
SO, UH, WITH THAT SAID, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
UM, THE BUSINESS AT HAND IS THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS THE COUNTY TO GRANT THE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT TO VIRGINIA ELECTRIC POWER COMPANY, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE ELECTRIC CONNECTION AT OUR OUTBUILDING AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
SO YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SPORTS COMPLEX WHEN YOU GO DOWN RRB, PAMPLIN, THE SECOND ENTRANCE YOU MAKE THAT LEFT OUR GARAGE IS RIGHT THERE AS YOU GO UP THE LANE.
THAT GARAGE IS THE HEARTBEAT IN THE CENTER OF, UM, ALL OF THE OPERATIONS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND FOR PARK SERVICES AT THE COMPLEX.
AND OF COURSE, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE POWER THERE NOW.
AND SO IF WE WERE ABLE TO ADD POWER THERE, IT'S GONNA MAKE US A LOT MORE EFFICIENT FROM A WORK PERSPECTIVE.
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RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE LIGHTS IN THE BUILDING AND SO IF YOU GET ON THERE AT NIGHTTIME, YOU CAN'T SEE, UM, WE CAN PUT ELECTRICAL OUTLETS IN SO WE CAN PUT POWER TOOLS DOWN THERE.THE MAINTENANCE STAFF CAN ACTUALLY USE THOSE POWER TOOLS AND WORK ON A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT SHARPENING BLADES AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, WE CAN ALSO ADD AN EXTRA LEVEL OF SECURITY.
RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS OR MOTION LIGHTS AT THAT AREA.
WE ONLY HAVE THAT ON THE CONCOURSE.
UH, AND SO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF FUNDING'S AVAILABLE, TO PUT UH, A CAMERA SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM DOWN THERE SO THAT WE CAN WATCH SOME OF THE EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE DOWN THERE.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE SOME OF OUR ASSOCIATIONS, THEY USE THAT AS A GATE ENTRY PLACE.
AND SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE FANS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THEY WANNA PLUG IN.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO USE GENERATORS FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US TO ENHANCE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR OPERATIONS, UM, BY ADDING POWER.
THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS RIGHT AS YOU MAKE THAT LEFT, UM, INTO, ONTO THE LANE TO COME IN.
UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS, UH, BEEN DESIGNATED AND THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU'VE SEEN, SO THERE'S A SCHEMATIC OF THAT AS WELL, IF YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT IN FAVOR OF VIRGINIA ELECTRIC POWER COMPANY APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
IS THAT UNDERGROUND OR OVERHEAD OR IT'S GONNA BE UNDERGROUND.
AND SO WE ALSO HAVE A PANEL BOX THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THAT PANEL BOX ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WILL ALLOW US, SO IF WE HAVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF FACILITIES, UH, SAY WE WANT TO ADD LIGHTS OR A FAN TO THE BAT, ENGAGE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT A FRACTION OF THE COST BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY.
WELL KIND OF SURPRISED IT'S TAKING THIS LONG FOR US TO, FOR IT TO COME TO US TO GET TO THAT POINT
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
SECOND ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER.
[7.B. Contract Award, General Real Estate Reassessment]
NEXT ACTION ITEM IS A CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE GENERAL REA UH, REAL ESTATE REASSESSMENT.MR. MAMU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE AN ACTION ITEM TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO WAMPLER EAMES, UM, APPRAISAL GROUP.
BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, YOU'RE REQUIRED UNDER STATE CODE TO DO A REASSESSMENT EVERY FOUR YEARS.
YOU, YOU ARE FOR 50,000 OR LESS POPULATION, YOU CAN EXTEND THAT TO FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
AND ON, ON IN 2016, YOU ESTABLISHED A SIX YEAR INTERVAL, UH, FOR YOUR REASSESSMENT.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, THE THE LAST ONE WENT INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST, 2019.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEEDING TO GO FORWARD AGAIN AND, AND, UH, MAKE THIS APPOINTMENT OR CONTRACT.
UH, SO WE, WE ISSUED AN RFP, UH, EARLIER IN THE YEAR BACK IN MAY ON JUNE 9TH.
THE COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE, UH, LORI STEVENS, TYLER SOUTH HALL, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ANN HAMILTON, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND MYSELF AND TYLER.
I, I BELIEVE TYLER'S ROLE WAS TO KEEP US LEGAL, NOT NECESSARILY AS A VOTING MEMBER, RIGHT? SOMEONE SPECIFY THAT.
UH, BUT HE CONCURRED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WAMPLER E'S APPRAISAL GROUP AND YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU.
BUT I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRICE 'CAUSE UM, WE, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER THAT THE RFP SHOWED AN ESTIMATED PARCEL COUNT OF 20,842 PARCELS IN DENWOOD COUNTY.
AND WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S, UH, $26 AND 50 CENTS PER PARCEL.
SO IF YOU JUST DO THE MATH, THAT'S A $552,000 ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND I'M JUST OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER 15 $16 A PARCEL.
SO 20 26 50 IS, IS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE PAID IN THE PAST.
SO IN THE CURRENT YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, UH, FY 24, WE APPROPRIATED $400,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.
BUT DUE TO THE TIMELINE OF THE WORK, IT'S GONNA GO INTO TWO BUDGET CYCLES.
SO AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED $400,000 AND FY 25, YOU WILL APPROPRIATE THE BALANCE OF THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME.
UM, THE GENERAL REASSESSMENT ALWAYS CONJURES UP DIFFERENT EMOTIONS AND YOU GET PHONE CALLS AND I GET PHONE CALLS AND THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE DEFINITELY DOES AS WELL.
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TIMELINE REAL BRIEFLY.SO HERE WE ARE IN JULY, AWARDING THE CONTRACT IN AUGUST, UH, NEXT MONTH, THE, THE APPRAISAL COMPANY WILL BEGIN SALES STUDIES AND PREPARING THE ASSESSMENT MANUAL IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
THEY'LL SET LAND VALUES, PREPARE SALES DATA REPORTS AND CONSTRUCTION COST ANALYSIS REPORTS.
SO THIS NOVEMBER UNTIL FOR 11 MONTHS UNTIL NEXT OCTOBER, THEY'LL BE IN THE FIELD DOING FIELD WORK.
UM, AND DOING THAT FINAL REVIEW AND SALES STUDY COMPLETION IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, THE THE NOTICES WILL BE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S NOVEMBER OF 2024.
NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER THEY'LL BE HEARINGS, UM, UP TO 10 DAYS WITH ASSESSORS, UH, THE COMPANY ITSELF.
AND THEN AT, IN DECEMBER OF 2024 APPEALS PROCESS AND FINAL SALES RATIO STUDY.
AND THEN TO CERTIFY THE, THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT BOOK.
SO THE END GOAL IS TO GET TO DECEMBER.
AT THE END OF THE YEAR OF, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.
THE CODER, VIRGINIA REQUIRES THAT THAT HANDBOOK BE FILED WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR END GAME.
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT.
AND THEN JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF, UM, OF 2025, YOU ACTUALLY START THE, UH, BOARD OF OF LOCAL BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
SO THE CONTRACTS IN, IN HERE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU WE BELIEVED THAT BASED ON AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, WE INTERVIEWED ALL THREE.
EVERYONE WHO SUBMITTED A BID GOT A, GOT AN INTERVIEW THAT WE REALLY FELT LIKE AFTER FINAL NEGOTIATIONS THAT WAMPLER E'S APPRAISAL GROUP SHOULD COME BACK AGAIN AND DO THE, THE GENERAL REASSESSMENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MEMBERS AND BOARD MEMBERS? I, I'VE JUST, UM, I WAS HERE FOR THE, UM, ASSESSMENT BEFORE THE LAST ASSESSMENT.
UM, AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH WAMPLER EAMES WAS, UM, THEM BEING HERE, BEING ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE SETUP FOR THIS, UM, APPRAISAL VERY SIMILAR TO THE APPROACH THAT WAS MADE WITH THE LAST, UM, YEAH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF OPEN COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY, NOT ONLY WITH THIS BOARD BUT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND SPEAKING TO THEM AS WELL AS COULD BE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT BODY.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF, OF OPENNESS THAT THEY DID, UH, LAST TIME.
ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN? I, I, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID TOO, I MENTIONED THE SALES DATA PIECE AND SO I'M LOOKING AT MS. STEVENS, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK, 'CAUSE WE WE'RE KIND OF IN A DIFFERENT MARKET FROM WHERE WE WERE AND THAT THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE SALES DATA EVEN BEYOND THE PERIOD THAT I, THAT I QUOTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE IS THAT IF SALES DATA CONTINUES TO CHANGE, THEY CAN TWEAK AND MONITOR THAT THROUGHOUT THE, YOU KNOW, UP INTO I THINK MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR, UH, THEY'LL LOOK AT THAT SALES DATA.
JUST MR. CHILDER DATE, YOU SAID IT WAS 20 SOME THOUSAND PARCELS.
ARE THEY PLANNING TO VISIT THEM ALL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES, SO ONE OF THE, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS VALUE OF THEM, SO 20,842 PARCELS.
SO SOME OF THESE PARCELS ARE LANDLOCKED, SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK OFF THE ROAD.
UM, SO EVERY HOME WILL BE VISITED, UM, NOW OUTSIDE OF THE HOME IF IT'S, IF IT'S OFF THE ROAD, I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY GO IF IT'S AN UNIMPROVED PARCEL.
BUT EVERY IMPROVED PARCEL WITH A HOME OR MOBILE HOME WILL BE PERSONALLY VISITED.
IT IS, UH, I KNOW THE LAST TIME THEY ACTUALLY TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF, I GUESS WITH CELL PHONES OR WHATEVER THEY PLAN TO DO THAT TOO.
THEY, THE PHOTOGRAPHS WILL, WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS AS WELL.
NOW FOR SOME REASON, IF WE SPECIFICALLY SAID, IF SOMEONE WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE ACTUAL PHOTO OF THEIR HOME, THAT THEY WOULD HELP ME, LORI, THEY, THEY WON'T TAKE A PICTURE IF, IF THE PERSON SPECIFICALLY REQUEST NOT A PICTURE TO BE TAKEN, IF THEY SPECIFICALLY ASK REQUEST NOT THEN IT WON'T BE TAKEN.
BUT THEY WILL TAKE A FRONT AND BACK PICTURE.
THIS DOES ENSURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY SIGNED UP TO DO TO GO TO EACH PARCEL.
WE CAN ALSO MARK THEIR, THEIR, UM, FILE SO THAT IT'S NOT SEEN, UM, VIA GIS OKAY? MM-HMM
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YOU.AND IF THEY COME TO A GATE, THEY ARE TO NOTIFY MY OFFICE.
WE WILL TRY TO GET A NUMBER FOR THAT LANDOWNER AND MAKE CONNECTIONS THAT WAY SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
SO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO YES, SIR.
AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND MR. SOUTH I CAN JUMP INTO THIS WITH THIS PARTICULAR RFP AND AWARD, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A RENEWAL PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME RENEWAL LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE COUNTY TO RENEW THIS IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING QUICKER THAN A SIX YEAR.
I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON EVEN A TWO YEAR TYPE OF REVIEW.
UH, THIS CONTRACT IS THE CONDUIT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT RENEWAL WITHOUT HAVING TO OPEN THAT BACK UP.
UM, IF, IF IT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNTY TO DO THAT AT THE TIME THE SOUTH FALLS, THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE IS AN OPTION IN HERE FOR A RENEWAL AT THE TWO YEAR MARK.
SO IF, IF THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE IN REAL ESTATE PRICES, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO DO A RENEWAL SO THAT YOU HAVE A NEW REASSESSMENT ON JANUARY 1ST, 2027.
UM, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A THREE OR A FOUR YEAR RENEWAL OPTION.
IT'S A TWO YEAR RENEWAL OPTION.
RIGHT? SO AT THAT POINT, UM, YOU, YOU'D HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT.
AND THERE, THERE ARE TWO PRICES THAT ARE NOTED IN THE RENEWAL.
ONE OF THEM IS MORE OF A DESKTOP.
THE OTHER IS A, A VISIT TO THE PARCEL.
UM, IT IS, YOU, YOU CAN DO A COMPLETE REASSESSMENT FROM MORE OF A DESKTOP POINT OF VIEW.
THERE HAS TO BE THE OPTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT IF THEY WANT THEIR HOUSE TO BE VISITED, IT HAS TO BE VISITED.
BUT THAT OPTION IS THERE FOR THAT TWO YEAR RENEWAL.
AND I, I THINK MS. STEVENS PROBABLY KNOWS THE OTHER COUNTIES PRACTICES BETTER THAN, THAN I DO, BUT THERE, THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT, THAT APPEAR TO BE HEADED IN THE DIRECTION OF MAYBE DOING THOSE TWO YEAR RENEWALS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT AT LEAST WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNTY THE OPTION OF DOING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST TO REITERATE, SO WHY WOULD WE LOOK AT DOING THIS SOONER? UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, EVERYBODY'S BEEN PAYING REAL ESTATE TAXES BASED ON WHAT THEIR HOME WAS WORTH IN 2019.
SO WE GET CALLS FROM TIME TO TIME AND SAY, WHY IS MY, WHY IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR MY TAXES GOING UP FOR REAL ESTATE, YOUR TAXES AREN'T GOING UP FOR REAL ESTATE.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU MAY BE MORTGAGING YOUR INSURANCE AND HAVING INSURANCE PAYMENTS GO UP, BUT YOU'RE PAYING TAXES FOR YOUR REAL ESTATE BASED ON WHAT YOUR HOME WAS VALUED AT IN 2019.
AND UN UNLESS YOU'VE MADE SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS A SWIMMING POOL OR A GARAGE OR, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO REMEMBER, THE GOAL OF ANY GOOD REASSESSMENT IS TO TRY TO GET THE MARKET, THE WHOLE MARKET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF FAIR MARKET VALUE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT TO DO THAT.
SO YOUR SALES RATIO, AGAIN, IF, IF HOMES COME IN HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL VALUE, THE SALES RATIO BEGINS TO DROP.
SO YOU GET FURTHER BELOW A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO WHERE ARE WE TODAY? REALLY? WANT ME TO
SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THE 60 PERCENTILE, UM, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT AN ADJUSTMENT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN VALUES AND THAT CAN COME AS STICKER SHOCK.
THE MARKET WILL BE WHAT THE MARKET IS.
THE BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS.
BUT THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME IS GETTING THAT CLOSE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF FAIR MARKET VALUE.
SO WHEN YOU SEE IT GET INTO THE SIXTIES, THAT'S PRETTY LOW COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE, THAT ALSO IMPACTS OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
SO IF YOU WERE A, A TWO YEAR ASSESSMENT CYCLE AND MAYBE DOING, YOU KNOW, AS OUTLINED OR POTENTIALLY THOUGHT OF IN THIS RENEWAL, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THESE MASSIVE SWINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SIX YEAR PERIOD.
AND, AND OUR TAXPAYERS MAY BE ABLE TO ADJUST TO THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN TO THIS.
AND AGAIN, YOU ALL SET WITH THE ABILITY TO, TO TRY TO PUT THE EFFECTIVE RATE TO NEUTRALIZE THAT TOO.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS A PART OF THE WHAT YOU CAN DO.
MR. CHAIR, ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THE WORD OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS? THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE COMING AROUND AT THAT POINT IN TIME? WE'RE GONNA DO, I GUESS, FACEBOOK AND, UH, I WOULD IMAGINE WE DO FACEBOOK, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING SOMETHING IN, UM, THE NEXT ROUND OF TAX BILLS THAT GO OUT THAT WAY WE KNOW IT GETS IN EVERYBODY'S MAILBOX.
UM, AND OF COURSE, NEWSLETTER, NEWSLETTER, NEWSLETTER.
UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN SET UP MEETINGS AT DIFFERENT TON CLUBS AND THINGS
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OF THAT SORT.IF Y'ALL DO TOWN HALL MEETINGS, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE IT THERE AS WELL.
THESE VEHICLES THAT WILL BE GOING AROUND WILL BE MARKED.
OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE MARKED AND THEY'LL BE IDENTIFIED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND WE WILL HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE FIELD ASSESSORS.
UM, ANYBODY THAT CAN BE OUT IN THE FIELD WILL HAVE THEIR, THEIR PICTURE AND HAVE THAT POSTED SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE JUST NEED SIMPLY THAT THE RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED AS PRESENTED.
YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU FOR THE GENERAL RE REAL ESTATE REASSESSMENT.
SECOND ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER.
NEXT ITEM IS CITIZEN'S COMMENT FOR THIS AFTERNOON, AND I'LL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP.
ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN'S COMMENT? PERIOD.
HEARING NOW, WE'LL, CLOSE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
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COUNTY BOARD, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS, MR. MASSEY, MR. CHAIRMAN BEING THERE WEREN'T ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? I'LL TAKE SOME OF THEIR, THEIR TIME.UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE WITH MS. BROWER.
UM, AND NOW THAT KEVIN NORAM HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM, I CAN TALK ABOUT HIM.
SO, MS. COLLINS AND I WERE IN A FAITH-BASED MEETING, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
AND, AND I WROTE SOMETHING DOWN THAT REVEREND NORAM SAID, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU NEED TO BRING A PEN EVERY TIME HE'S AROUND.
'CAUSE HE DROPS THESE LITTLE COUPLE OF LINES OR ONE, A FEW, FEW WORDS THAT YOU WRITE DOWN.
BUT HE TALKED ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE ALL HAVE WITH OUR, WITH INFLUENCE, THE INFLUENCE THAT YOU HAVE AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT.
SO I, I JUST THINK ABOUT MS. BROWDER AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT SHE SAID TODAY AND THE SPEECH THAT SHE GAVE.
BUT EACH YEAR, THE CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION FINDS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE JUST TREMENDOUS INDIVIDUALS TO BE EITHER THE CHRISTMAS MOTHER OR PARENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T HAVE THIS WRITTEN DOWN TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, BUT I THOUGHT THEY, THEY HID IT OUT OF THE PARK ONCE AGAIN.
UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT CHRISTMAS, AS YOU ALL WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK I HEARD IT SAID ONE TIME, THERE'S REALLY THE MEANING OF THE CHRISTMAS STORY IS REALLY ABOUT LOVE AND IT'S, IT'S GOD'S LOVE TO ALL HIS CHILDREN.
BUT THE REALITY IS TOO, THAT THERE ARE SOME CHILDREN, NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF LOVE, BUT SHORTAGE OF FINANCES.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SHORTAGE, THE COMMUNITY CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.
AND THE CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION DOES THAT FOR US.
AND EACH YEAR, THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, SEES IT.
WE GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO.
BUT WITHOUT THAT, THAT GIVING, THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO IT.
SO I JUST, AGAIN, FOR THE CHRISTMAS SHARING FOUNDATION, SOPHIE DID A TREMENDOUS JOB AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MS. BROWER.
SHE, SHE FURTHERS THAT MISSION.
SO LET ME TALK ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE DIRE, WHICH IS THE
AND JUST, JUST BEFORE THIS, THIS MEETING HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO DELEGATE KIM TAYLOR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS SITUATION.
SO YOU, YOU KNOW THAT THE LEGISLATORS, UH, IN RICHMOND ARE STILL AT ODDS WITH ONE ANOTHER.
AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE AT ODDS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY AND THERE'S TOO MANY PRIORITIES IN THIS SITUATION.
THE STATE OF VIRGINIA FINDS ITSELF WITH A, WITH A $3 BILLION STATE SURPLUS, AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO WORK TOGETHER TO SPEND THE MONEY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAJOR DIFFERENCES, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE VERSUS DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED SENATE.
AND WE, WE, WE FIND THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE BREAKING DOWN.
I, I TALKED TO, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO DELEGATE, TAYLOR ASKED, WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL CALL IN A A SPECIAL SESSION? UM, SHE DIDN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING UNTIL THE BUDGET CAN GET CLOSER.
THESE TO TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH THESE NEGOTIATIONS.
SO, SPECIFICALLY IN MEETING WITH DR.
WESTIN LAST WEEK, AS A PART OF THE BUDGET, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET.
IT'S THE SKINNY BUDGET THAT IT'S REFERRED TO.
UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE IMPLICATIONS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT, NOT ONLY JUST FOR OUR SCHOOLS, BUT FOR OUR STATE SUPPORTED CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES AS WELL.
AND SPECIFICALLY HOW, HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT.
UM, I KNOW THAT DR. MOORE, MYSELF AND THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION HERE FOR CRATER MET ON JUNE 28TH AT THE VACO REGION.
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MEETINGS AND 31 LOCALITIES SHOWED UP.GOOD INPUT, BUT JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE MAJOR INITIATIVES OR CONCERNS.
UH, SECOND WAS EDUCATION AND THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION.
OPERATIONALLY, THE STATE REFUSES TO FUND ITS FULL SHARE OF THE STANDARDS OF QUALITY AS WELL AS THE OTHER, UH, POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SAME THING WITH OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.
YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE JUST, WHAT THE STATE SAYS WE NEED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ABOUT 27 INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY PAY FOR 26, 27.
WE HAVE OVER 60 SOME IN THAT OFFICE.
UH, BUT WE, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD RUN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH JUST 26, 27 PEOPLE.
UH, SAME THING WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IF YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT, NEARLY 40% OF ALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS FUNDED LOCALLY.
AND SO THE, THESE HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON, ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, PUBLIC SAFETY WAS ANOTHER BIG, BIG CATEGORY THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.
SOME STAFFING CONCERNS, COMPENSATION, UM, CONCERNS.
THE STATUS OF OF, OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS PRETTY, UH, SIGNIFICANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS AREN'T VOLUNTEERING LIKE THEY USED TO, WHICH HAS AN IMPACT.
MENTAL HEALTH, ANOTHER SPECIFIC SUBJECT THAT'S OF A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.
UM, AND THEN HOW PUBLIC SAFETY REACTS TO A, A COMMUNITY THAT HAS MENTAL ILLNESS CONCERN.
UM, BROADBAND, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE COMMONWEALTH IS FURTHER ALONG WITH BROADBAND IMPLEMENTATION, BUT DR. MOORE WOULD CONTEST THAT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE JURISDICTION OF THE, OF THAT CAME, OF THE 31, THERE WAS ONE OR TWO THAT WAS FURTHER ALONG, BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE SEEN VERY LIMITED PROGRESS WHEN IT COMES TO BROADBAND.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD.
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT CAME OUTTA THE WHITE HOUSE, THE BEAD FUNDING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, BUT VIRGINIA'S GONNA GET $1.5 BILLION THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN WORK TO, TO THAT HOUSING.
ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THERE, THERE'S A LACK OF HOUSING, UM, IN THE COUNTY AND IN, IN, THROUGHOUT THIS, THIS 31 AS FAR AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO MR. LEE AND I SPECIFICALLY HAD A LITTLE EXERCISE, AND WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE, AGAIN, I WANTED TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE TO YOU ALL.
UM, WE TOOK ONE OF OUR NEWEST SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH IS TURKEY RUN SUBDIVISION.
SO TURKEY RUN SUBDIVISION HAS 24 LOTS.
THOSE 24 LOTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED UPON.
AND SINCE 2019 TO 2023, THOSE 24 HOUSES HAVE BEEN BUILT IN TURKEY RUN.
SO I ASKED MR. LEE ASKED ORIGINALLY, SO WE ASKED THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, SAY, WELL, OF THOSE 24 LOTS, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE HOME SIZE IN THAT PARTICULAR, UH, SUBDIVISION? AND IT'S 1880 1,880 SQUARE FOOT.
SO THEN SHE WENT A STEP FURTHER AND SAID, WELL, WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THESE, THESE HOUSES? SO THE AVERAGE CONSIDERATION IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD IS $491,000, JUST UNDER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
FOR THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE, I MEAN SIZE OF AN 1880 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
SO THEN I DUG A LITTLE DEEPER OF THESE 24, 11 OF THEM SOLD FOR $625,000.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REASSESSMENT, A A LITTLE BIT AGO WHEN THIS SUBDIVISION STARTED, THE SAME HOME WAS SELLING AROUND $380,000.
TODAY, THE MOST RECENT SALES, 11 OF 24 ARE $625,000 FOR AN 1880 AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT HOME.
WESTON ABOUT THIS AND, AND WE WERE SAYING, WELL, WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE TAKING TEACHERS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW THEM A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD BUY A HOUSE, BECAUSE TRULY, UM, AT THIS PRICE POINT, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING FIREFIGHTERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS OUR TEACHERS INTO THIS AREA.
SO IT UNDERSCORED TO ME WHAT THEY WERE SAYING AT THE VACO MEETING, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK ABOUT WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO AGAIN, I JUST, I WANTED TO REPORT THAT OUT TO YOU ALL.
AND I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY ON AUGUST 17TH, THE COUNTY, THIS, THE COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WILL BE GOING TO VACO TO TALK ABOUT ITS LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.
AND THIS IS KIND OF OUR FINAL LAST DITCH EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER TO GET IT TO THE STATE MM-HMM
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ADOPTED.SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO STAFF, WE'VE TALKED TO DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ENCOMPASSING ALL THAT WE SHOULD FROM DEWIN COUNTY, BUT I, FOR THE BOARD, IT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF, TO TWEAK THINGS A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO MAYBE GET A BETTER PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
SO I WANTED TO ALSO TELL YOU THAT ON AUGUST 1ST, THAT'S YOUR NEXT, NEXT MEETING.
SO AT THAT MEETING, WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S COMING IN AND REFERRING THAT'S, UH, BLUE LINE SOLUTIONS.
SO BLUE LINE SOLUTIONS IS A COMPANY THAT, UM, THE STATE LEGISLATURE APPROVED TO ALLOW FIXED CAMERAS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MONITOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ZONES AND SCHOOL ZONES.
SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS APPROACHED BY THIS COMPANY, AND THE SHERIFF WILL BE HERE, HIS STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMPANY TO CONSIDER PUTTING, UH, THIS TYPE OF SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOL ZONES.
AND PARTICULARLY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR IN FRONT OF SUTHERLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON FOUR 60.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE MATH ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN A, IN A FIVE DAY PERIOD THAT THEY PUT A TEST RUN.
WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE 36,000 CARS GO THROUGH THERE.
AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT WAS ABLE TO CALCULATE WAS HOW MANY OF THOSE CARS WERE GOING OVER 10 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE REDUCED SPEED DURING THE TIMES OF THE FLASHING LIGHTS OF THE 36,000, 24,000 WE'RE SPEEDING.
AND SO, AGAIN, THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK THIS THE BOARD NEEDS TO, TO, TO THINK THROUGH.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE A LEGISLATIVE PIECE FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE IT.
UM, BUT JUST, IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, A POTENTIAL TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.
I KNOW THAT AT THAT MEETING, DR. MOORE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE THERE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON VACATION THAT WEEK, AND MR. SOUTHALL'S NOT GONNA BE THERE EITHER.
SO, MR. CHAVIS, YOU'LL BE RUNNING THAT MEETING.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY, ONLY SUBJECT THAT WE HAVE.
I MENTIONED THE FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AGO SINCE WE STARTED THAT INITIATIVE.
AND SO ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 31ST AT EAST SIDE, UH, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE RECOMMITMENT AND ENGAGEMENT OF CHURCHES.
SO LAST WEEK WE SENT OUT A CORRESPONDENCE INVITING ALL THE, THE PLACES OF WORSHIP IN DEM WITTY COUNTY TO COME BACK AGAIN.
IT'D BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE WE STARTED THE INITIATIVE THAT WE'LL HAVE ALL, ALL THOSE CHURCHES, HOPEFULLY BACK.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENT IS TO EDUCATE THE, THE CURRENT PASTORS AS WELL AS MAYBE SOME OF THE NEWER PASTORS OF WHAT THIS FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE IS ALL ABOUT.
IT'S GONNA BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LISTEN, BUT ALSO EMPOWER THE PASTORS, UM, AND CHURCH LEADERS OF WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE GOOD ATTENDANCE AT THAT.
UH, ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT ON OCTOBER 21ST, WHICH I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU ONCE BEFORE, IS THE LEADWELL SUMMIT.
AND DEAN KENNY HAS ACCEPTED, WILL BE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WHO'S THE ONE WHO DID THAT IN 2020, SHOULD BE A GREAT EVENT AT DIY COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL.
THE ONE COMMUNITY CHURCH SERVICE WILL ALSO BE THAT FOLLOWING SUNDAY, OCTOBER 29TH.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE, I BELIEVE, AT WEST END BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY'S GOSPEL CORRAL THAT HAS AGREED TO COME AND, AND DO THE MUSIC THAT NIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT SHOULD BE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD EVENT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE OUR FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE IS, IS.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT AND MEMBERS BOARD, I WANTED TO END WITH THE LAST, LAST PIECE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SINCE 2015, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED, UH, BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, GFOA, WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.
SO WE FOUND OUT, I THINK YESTERDAY OR TODAY, THAT THIS WILL BE THE EIGHTH STRAIGHT YEAR THAT DIM WITTY COUNTY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH THIS.
AND THIS IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION FOR EXCELLENCE IN THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SECTOR.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK VERY FAR TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND SEE THE STRUGGLES OF WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL REPORTING THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE.
AND SO WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO BE AWARDED THIS, YOU GOTTA REALLY, UH, DEVELOP AND PUBLISH AN EASY, CLEAR, EFFICIENT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUDGET AND AUDIT.
AND SO WE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE, AGAIN, TO BE RECOGNIZED, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR CAFFER AND WHAT WE DO.
SO I GOTTA LOOK AT ANNE HOWERTON.
WE, WE'VE SAID SHE'S THE SECRET SAUCE WHEN IT COMES TO, TO MOVING THE COUNTY FORWARD.
WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TYPE OF RECOGNITION.
WE DON'T DO NECESSARILY, NECESSARILY THINGS TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT HOPEFULLY WHAT THIS DOES FOR PEOPLE AT HOME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT JURISDICTIONS OUR SIZE, TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS EIGHT YEARS IN A ROW,
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UM, UNDER ANN'S LEADERSHIP, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL END WITH THAT.[10. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
WE'LL START WITH BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS, MS. BONNER.UM, JUST TO KIND OF BASICALLY GOING BACK OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS EVENING, UM, OF COURSE THE, THE CHRISTMAS SHARING WAS, UM, UH, PEACE WAS REALLY GOOD AND, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH HELPING THE INDIVIDUALS AND, UM, AND ALSO WITH THE, UM, MR. VINES AND HIS SPORTS COMPLEX RIGHT AWAY.
I THINK HE'S HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE HAPPY ABOUT THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, GOING, GOING FORWARD AND, UM, UH, AND THEN RE-LOOKING AT THE WATER TANK.
SO I THINK WE KIND OF DID A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD STUFF TODAY, LOOKING AT ALL THOSE THINGS.
UM, THE, UM, AND WITH THE FAITH BASE AS, UM, UM, KEVIN HAS TALKED ABOUT, THOSE ARE, ARE SOME GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, UM, MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, UM, THE, THE ONLY THING I, UM, WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT, I WAS LOOKING AT THE NEWS AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TELEHEALTH, AND THEY'RE REALLY, UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, SENATOR KANE IS, UH, TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE, UM, THAT CAN'T GET TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND THINGS, WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THEY COULD JUST, UM, TALK TO SOMEBODY BY TELEHEALTH AND GET EVERYTHING DONE.
I THINK THAT'S, UM, REMARKABLE.
AND I HOPE THEY REALLY PUSH TO GET THAT DONE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST DON'T GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TRANSPORTATION OR ANYONE TO TAKE THEM.
SO IF, UM, THE DOCTOR CAN COME INTO THEIR HOME, UM, WITH, UM, WITH A COMPUTER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELL, AND ALSO, UM, AND, UM, I THINK NUMBERS, I ASKED HER ONE TIME, I SAID ABOUT NUMBERS, AND SHE JUST LOVED NUMBERS AND SHE LOVED NUMBERS.
I TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA BE GREAT TO LOVE NUMBERS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, UH, BACK AND FORTH AND EVERYTHING, BUT EVERYBODY, UH, WHAT THE BIBLE SAID, EVERYBODY HAS A GIFT.
I, YOU KNOW, UM, THANK HER FOR DOING THAT AND HER TEAM MM-HMM
BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A LOT TO DO AND WHATNOT.
AND ALSO, UM, JUST TO, UH, SAY, UH, DAN'S BIRTHDAY IS TODAY MM-HMM
AND HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 36, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
UM,
BUT TO TODAY IS HIS ACTUAL BIRTHDAY, SO THAT'S GOOD.
SO HE SAID HE HAD A GOOD DAY AND SO FORTH.
HE WAS TELLING US IN THE BACK ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK, UM, AND WE, AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AWARDS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TOO, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH NACO NACO, YEAH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE AWARDS THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA SEND IT TO US.
SO, UM, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM.
WE NEED TO, UM, RECEIVE AWARDS FOR THINGS THAT WE DO.
UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.
THANK YOU, ANN, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T MANAGE YOUR MONEY RIGHT, THINGS GO AMEN.
SO DAN'S BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT FOR MANY YEARS, BUT FOR THE AWARD LAST EIGHT YEARS.
UM, UH, KEVIN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE VALUE OF THE HOMES.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STEADY GOING UP.
I WAS JUST RUNNING SOME HALF A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
THE TAXES ON THAT AT 79 CENTS WOULD BE 39 50.
AND I THINK THE, UH, COST EDUCATED CHILD AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT RIGHT NOW, ISN'T IT? MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS.
WELL, I'LL PUT IT TO YOU ANOTHER WAY.
THE, OF THAT SUBDIVISION, IF YOU TOOK THE 24 HOMES, THEY'RE PAYING 93,000 AS AN ENTIRE SUBDIVISION.
SO A SCHOOL BUS AND WHAT'S THAT FIGURE?
IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SCHOOL BUS.
SO YET, TO YOUR POINT, TO MY POINT, YEAH.
IT, IT COSTS A LOT TO RUN THE COUNTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN A NICE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE HARDLY EDUCATES ONE CHILD.
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UM, I GET TO SPEND MY BIRTHDAY WITH MY SECOND FAMILY TODAY, SO, UM, UM, WHICH IT IS A GOOD THING.UM, I ACTUALLY LIKE MY SECOND FAMILY, SO, UH, SO IT'S GOOD TO SPEND MY BIRTHDAY WITH Y'ALL AND, UH, HOPEFULLY MY OTHER FAMILY WILL, UH, DO SOMETHING FOR MY BIRTHDAY ON ANOTHER DAY.
UH, BUT, UH, NO, I, UM, YOU KNOW, DAYS LIKE TODAY WITH THE CHRISTMAS SHARING, UM, GROUP COMING, UM, IS WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT EE COUNTY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY A COMMUNITY ORIENTED COUNTY AND, AND, UH, APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE HARD WORK THAT, THAT THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN THE ROOM HERE DO, UM, FOR THAT.
MR. CHAVIS, GOING BACK TO WHAT MR. HARRISON SAID ABOUT, UM, RAISING KIDS IN THE COUNTY TAXES SCHOOLS, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO BAIL MY HOUSE IN DENWOOD COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW, WAS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR PLANNING, I THINK IT WAS PLANNING.
HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEVER GET OUR MONEY BACK FROM YOU FOR RAISING YOUR KIDS IN SCHOOL.
YOU THINK ABOUT FOUR KIDS, AND I THINK THE YOUNGEST ONE WAS IN THE THIRD GRADE WHEN WE STARTED, AND THE OTHER, THE OLDEST, OLDEST ONES WERE LIKE, HAD FIVE YEARS TO GO FOR THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IT DID COST TO, TO RAISE MY KIDS IN.
BUT THEN WITH THE COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE, BUT IT COST MONEY TO RAISE KIDS.
AND WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE IN, UH, 89, 18, RIGHT AT 2000 SQUARE FEET, $77,000, THE SAME HOUSE THAT THEY BUILT IN, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM
SO THINGS HAVE WENT, BUT IT TAKES IT TO MAKE THE COUNTY BE EFFICIENT.
AND WE, THE ONES THAT HAVE TO MAKE THE POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE THOUGH, THE 12 YEARS WE'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, REAL ESTATE IS STILL BEEN MM-HMM
MR. LEE TRIED TO RAISE IT, BUT WE DECIDED AGAINST HIM,
YOU KNOW, MR. THAT LESSON EARLY, DIDN'T HE? BUT ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
YOU KNOW, THINGS YOU GOTTA PAY THAT, THAT SAYING IS WHAT YOU GOTTA PAY TO PLAY.
AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO HELP EVERYONE, BUT ALSO TO MAINTAIN A WAY OF, OF LIFE.
WELL, I'M GONNA END ON A HIGH NOTE.
WE HAVE A WINNING BASEBALL TEAM IN THIS COUNTY IS OUR DENVER WINNING NATIONALS MAJORS TEAM, DIXIE YOUTH BASEBALL, UM, WILL BE PLAYING, WON THE, UM, STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND WE'LL BE GOING TO, UM, WHERE IS IT? RUSTON, LOUISIANA.
AND THE SECOND PLACE TEAM WAS FROM DENVER, WIDY COUNTY ALSO.
AND THAT'S THE THEN WITH THE AMERICANS MAJORS TEAM, AND THEY WILL BE GOING.
SO I ANTICIPATE THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME CAR WASHES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON FOR US TO GIVE, UH, OF OUR FUNDS, EXTRA FUNDS TO HELP WITH, UH, TAKING THOSE KIDS TO, UH, LOUISIANA.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CHILDREN, TO THE COACHES, TO THE PARENTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THOSE.
AND, UH, WE WISH THEM GREAT SUCCESS IN LOUISIANA.
MAYBE A COOLER WEEK DOWN THERE PLAYING BASEBALL WHEN THEY DO HAVE TO PLAY, BECAUSE IT'S PLENTY HOT DOWN IN HUMID LOUISIANA.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE IN SEPTEMBER OUR, UM, CITIZENS ACADEMY THAT WILL BE STARTING UP.
IT'S EVERY, IT WILL RUN EVERY, UH, OTHER WEEK, UH, SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER.
AND WE HAVE SIX SPOTS THAT ARE REMAINING.
AND IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN THAT CITIZENS ACADEMY, OUR SECOND CITIZENS ACADEMY, UM, CAN CONTACT MARIE, UH, GRANT WITH THE COUNTY AT, UM, WHETHER HERE AT THE COMPLEX OR ONLINE, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, LOOK FORWARD TO THAT NEXT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH HOW GOVERNMENT IS RUN
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AND, UM, AND THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPEN THROUGH THE CITIZENS AND THROUGH THOSE OF US THAT ARE ELECTED TO, TO TAKE THE COUNTY FORWARD AND THE ADMINISTRATION.UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEWARDSHIP.
UM, WE KNOW THAT YOU VALUE THE DOLLAR THAT COMES INTO THIS COUNTY JUST AS IF IT'S YOUR DOLLAR.
AND THAT'S THE, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE IS THAT SHE'S TIGHT AS THE BARK ON A TREE.
OKAY? AND FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, UM, IS THAT SHE'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY, UH, IN ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WE DO FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT TOUCHES LIVES IN ITY COUNTY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THE EIGHT YEARS OF EXCELLENT SERVICE AND MORE YEARS IN THAT.
I KNOW THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THE AWARD TIME.
AND, UM, I WILL SAY ONE THING ABOUT CHRISTMAS SHARING, I WANNA PUT A, A, UM, PLUG OUT THERE.
THERE ARE OVER 80 HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN DENWITTY COUNTY.
MY, MY GOAL IS I WOULD LOVE FOR ALL 80 TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME SHAPE, FASHION OR FORM TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE CHILDREN'S LIVES IN DENWITY COUNTY.
AND SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT'S OUT THERE FOR ALL OF THOSE CHURCHES TO BE INVOLVED.
UH, AND WE'LL PUT THAT PLUG IN ON AUGUST THE 31ST, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, FOR THOSE THAT MAY COME AND PARTICIPATE, BUT I THINK THE NUMBER OF 403 IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER THAT I HAVE HEARD SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF LIVES THAT ARE BEING TOUCHED, UM, DURING THAT SEASON.
AND NOT JUST THEN, BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND, UH, IT WAS, IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND SEE THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED, OUR CITIZENS THAT HELP WITH THAT.
THE DAY THAT THOSE CHILDREN COME IN.
IT IS, IT IS A BLESSING TO BEHOLD.
AND, UM, I WISH THEM ALL THE WELL AS WE GO FORWARD.
UM, AND ONE LAST THING, MR. LEE.
AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION
[11. CLOSED SESSION]
INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 8 1.PERSONNEL COUNTY ATTORNEY, CONTRACT APPOINTMENTS, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD, DENWOODY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND DENWOODY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE, BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY, OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 3.
DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES.
AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 8 8 CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL.
BROADBAND N 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 8 29, DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND CONTRACTS.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE, PLEASE? IT'S MOVED.
I ROLL CALL SECOND MS. EBRA BONNER.
AND WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:00 PM SO WE WILL BE BACK AT THAT TIME.
WE HAVE A NEED TO COME OUTTA CLOSED SESSION.
NEED A MOTION? MOTION TO COME OUTTA CLOSED SESSION.
WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED IN A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.
PERSONNEL COUNTY ATTORNEY CONTRACT APPOINTMENTS APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD, DENWOODY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IN DENWOODY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE.
BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE
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2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A THREE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES.
AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 8 CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND 2.2 DASH 3 7 29.
DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND CONTRACTS.
AND WHEREAS NO MEMBER HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH CLOSED MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE.
UM, MADAME CLERK, I THINK MR. CHAVIS, YOU MAY WANT TO ABSTAIN SINCE YOU WEREN'T IN THERE YEAH.
SO WE MAY WANT TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO OFFER THE SECOND.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
[12.A. Resolution Authorizing Approval To Apply For "No-Wake" Zone At The Mouth Of Whipponock Creek To Lake Chesdin]
EVENING EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS PORTION OF OUR MEETING TODAY.WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AND IS THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR A NO WAKE ZONE AT THE MOUTH OF WOCK CREEK TO LAKE TESTON.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE MR. MASS, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS GONNA PRESENT THE CASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU WILL SEE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE, THE NO WAKE ZONE, UM, AT THE MOUTH WHIP NOT CREEK.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, THE PURPOSE OF, OF THIS RESOLUTION WOULD BEGIN THE ENFORCEMENT EFFORT OF BEING ABLE TO, UM, TO, TO REGULATE THAT NO WAKE ZONE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO, TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED.
UM, SO IF YOU RECALL ON MAY 16TH, THE BOARD HAD A PUBLIC INPUT SESSION RELATIVE TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AT THAT MEETING, THERE WERE SOME REALLY GOOD COMMENTS MADE, UH, AT, FOR MR. SADLER, MR. BROOKS, MR. DANIELS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE LOCATION SPECIFICALLY OF, OF THE BUOYS.
UM, SO WE DECIDED TO POSTPONE TAKING ANY ACTION AT THE MAY 16TH MEETING.
AND AT YOUR REQUEST, I HELD A, A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, UH, ON LAKE CHESON AND I, I ALSO BROUGHT ROBERT WILSON.
UH, ROBERT, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND, HE'S, HE'S HERE TODAY.
ROBERT IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE APAX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY.
SO WE HAD ROBERT AND HIS STAFF, UM, TAKE SEVERAL OF US OUT ON LAKE CHESON ON MAY 31ST.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE MR. SADDLER, MR. BROOKS, MR. DANIELS AND MR. GORE.
WE ACTUALLY PULLED UP TO MR. GORE'S DOCK ABOUT THE TIME THAT HE CALLED A REALLY BIG FISH.
SO THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PERFECT TIMING OR, OR HOW HE DID THAT, BUT IT, UH, WE, WE DECIDED AT THAT MEETING TO, TO RELOCATE SOME OF THE BUOYS.
AND SO THE ARAWA MAINTENANCE STAFF RELOCATED THE BUOYS AFTER THE MAY 31ST, UH, MEETING TO THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS THAT, THAT WE HAD HAD THOUGHT WE WERE, WERE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON.
THAT BEING SAID, AS SOON AS THAT REPLACEMENT TOOK PLACE, UM, MY PHONE STARTED RINGING.
I THINK, UM, OTHER, UH, BOARD MEMBERS STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS AND ESPECIALLY THOSE ATTENDING THE MEETING, WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE BUOYS WERE PUT WHERE WE, WE HAD REALLY AGREED TO THEM TO GO.
SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC AND THAT THE LA AND LONG QUADRANTS HAVE TO BE USED IN REGARD TO THE EXACT LOCATIONS.
SO I, I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE JUNE 20TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA, UM, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, BUT WE DIDN'T FOLLOWED UP ONCE AGAIN.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAME TO THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAD ON JUNE 21ST.
AND SO AGAIN, WE HAD THAT AT THE APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITIES OFFICES ON THE CHESTERFIELD SIDE OF THE LAKE.
UM, AND WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE, AGAIN, MR. SADLER, MR. BROOKS, MR. DANIELS AND MR. GORE, UH, ATTEND THAT, THAT CONVERSATION.
I WISH I COULD BEFORE STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AND SAY THAT, UH, WE HAD A CONSENSUS, UH, THERE WAS SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, THE, THE LOCATIONS, BUT WE DID, UH, SPECIFICALLY THERE WERE, YOU'LL SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY,
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THE ACTUAL LOCATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT MEETING.AGAIN, UH, I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY A CONSENSUS, BUT IT WASN'T A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS AND THERE WAS SOME, SOME CONCERNS MENTIONED.
UM, IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, I BROUGHT IT TO YOU AS A, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND JUST WANTED TO TALK IT THROUGH WITH YOU.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE, THE GRAPHIC HERE ON YOUR SCREENS, UH, PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THE INDIVIDUALS AND MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING, COULD UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND, UH, HAVING THESE THREE PROPOSED BUOYS.
AGAIN, BUOYS LOCATION NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, AND NUMBER FOUR, UH, CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE ABOUT PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER ONE.
UM, AT THE END OF THAT CONVERSATION, AGAIN, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE PUT PROPOSED BU LOCATION NUMBER ONE ON THIS, THIS MAP, UM, BECAUSE OF A COUPLE REASONS.
ONE, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST NARROW PORTIONS OF LAKE CHESON THAT IS ON A MAIN CHANNEL.
UH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT LOCATION OR NARROW IS PROBABLY WHAT IS REFERRED TO THE CUT THROUGH THAT GOES IN BETWEEN DIMITY CHESTERFIELD INTO AMELIA.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST DANGEROUS ONE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT, BUT THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS MORE TRAFFIC AS WOCK MARINA, UM, IS THE ONLY GAS STATION ON THE LAKE AND PROBABLY GETS MORE, UM, TRAFFIC THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO AFTER CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION, UM, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, I PUT PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER ONE AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AGAIN, THIS GRAPHIC DOESN'T SHOW, BUT THERE IS A FLOATING DOCK AT THE END OF THAT, UH, PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, AND WE JUST FELT DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF IT, THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT LOCATION AGAIN, HAVING VOTERS RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT, UM, YOU'RE COMING INTO THAT NO WAKE ZONE.
AND, AND IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, WE HAD SOME, SOME VIDEOS THAT WERE SENT IN SOME CELL PHONE VIDEOS THAT WERE ALSO SENT IN OF, OF SOME, UM, SOME SPEEDING THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL AS, UM, PEOPLE ON TUBES AS WELL AS SKIING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND AGAIN, WE JUST GENERALLY FELT LIKE IT MADE SENSE TO PUT THIS IN PLACE AT THAT LOCATION.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN AGREE TO THIS, YOU CAN TWEAK THIS, YOU CAN TAKE ALL FOUR BUOYS AWAY.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE DONE TONIGHT.
UM, FOR ME, I WANTED TO GET THIS BEFORE YOU, FOR YOU TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
UH, AGAIN, FROM A STAFF RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINT, WE BELIEVE THAT THESE FOUR LOCATIONS, UM, ARE PROBABLY THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
BUT AGAIN, UH, AS YOU ALL ARE THE HEAD OF LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, YOU GET TO MAKE THAT THAT FINAL DECISION ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE BUOYS ARE PRESENTLY, I WAS TALKING TO MR. WILSON EARLIER, SO IF YOU WERE TO, TO GO OUT TO LAKE CHEIN TODAY, WHERE THE BUOYS ARE PRESENTLY ARE NOT WHERE THESE BUOYS ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UM, SO ALL OF THEM, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
PRESENTLY WE HAVE THREE BUOYS.
ONE OF THOSE BUOYS, UH, WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE PURCHASED, UH, IN THAT REGARD.
UM, THERE, AND I, AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
I, I THINK PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER FOUR IS IN THE, THE LOCATION WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE.
BUT PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER THREE AND TWO WILL BE, NEED TO BE TWEAKED, BUT FOUR IS IN THE PRESENT DAY LOCATION.
THE OTHERS WILL HAVE TO BE RELOCATED.
SO AGAIN, MS. CHAIRMAN TONIGHT AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THIS IS A, A FEEDBACK.
UH, YOU, YOU CAN TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.
IF YOU TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, WE THEN CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION IN GETTING IT SUBMITTED, UM, AND START THAT EFFORT.
I WILL TELL YOU, I KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WERE PART OF A MEETING WITH ME IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY AS WELL.
UH, SO THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION ASKED.
AS YOU KNOW, DI COUNTY DOESN'T MONITOR THE LAKE.
UH, WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE APAX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY AS A MEMBER.
THE AUTHORITY ACTUALLY WORKS WITH CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, UM, AND THEY PROVIDE MARINE PATROL ON LAKE CHE.
I KNOW OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS STARTED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT TRYING TO STAFF THAT AND MEANING OUR STAFF AND THEM COULD DO THIS AS A, A JOINT EFFORT.
UM, BUT FROM WHAT CHESTERFIELD TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS WELL AS THEIR MARINE PATROL, THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REGULATE, ENFORCE THIS AS PART OF WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND BEING WE CONTRACT, UH, THROUGH ARWA FOR THAT SERVICE, IT WOULD BE DONE ACCORDINGLY.
BUT AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD, UM, BEFORE WE GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANYTHING TO ROBERT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. WILSON, IF HE HAS ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY TO ADD
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OR THAT'S FINE.JUST WANTED MAKE SURE HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD NO.
MR. LEE ASKED A GREAT QUESTION AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH IS WHO IS THE TECHNICAL EXPERT AT THIS? AND SO I KNOW WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES AND THE CONVERSATION BACK FROM THEM IS, WE DON'T GET INTO THE RELOCATION OR THE LOCATION OF THESE, UH, IT IT'S UP TO THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY.
UM, WE DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOSE.
AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE, THE GOVERNMENT BODY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO PUBLICLY STATE BEFORE WE GET, UM, SOME COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK WE HAD IN ADDITION TO, UH, THOSE THAT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN WORKING THIS OUT OR AT LEAST COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAD OTHER CITIZENS WHO HAVE PUT FORTH LETTERS AND COMMENTS AND PHONE CALLS.
AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMMENTS TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? SIR? QUICK QUESTION.
BOY, NUMBER ONE TO THE, TO THE WEST OF THAT IS WHERE WOCK MARINA IS, CORRECT? YES.
SO WHEN THEY PASS BUOY NUMBER ONE, THEY CAN RESUME NORMAL SPEED.
IF YOU'RE HEADED TO WOCK MARINA AFTER YOU PASS THE BUOY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABLE TO THEN TO INCREASE YOUR SPEED.
SO YOU, MR. MOODY, ONE OF THE, THE, THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE USED IN LOOK, LOOKING AT LOCATION NUMBER ONE, THE, WE ACTUALLY CALCULATED AT A NO WAKE SPEED HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE YOU GOT TO PROPOSED BUOY LOCATION NUMBER TWO.
SO ADDING BUOY NUMBER ONE LOCATION TO NUMBER TWO ADDS ABOUT A THREE MINUTE, UH, ADDITIONAL NO WAIT TIME TO THAT LOCATION AGAIN DUE TO THOSE SPECIFIC PARAMETERS AROUND THAT PARTICULAR CHOKE POINT IS WHY WE ADDED THAT BUOY.
BUT IT'S, IF YOU'RE QUESTIONING BETWEEN LOCATION TWO AND ONE, IT'S ABOUT A THREE MINUTE NO WAIT AT THE, AT THE LOW WAKE SPEED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF IT.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE CARLOS MUNOZ.
UM, I LIVE IN THE, UM, WATERFORD LANDING, UH, THE BACK OF MY HOUSE, UH, FACE THE OPEN AREA AFTER THE BRIDGE COMING OUT OF THE MARINA.
I WANT TO STAY FIRST THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH, UH, IN GENERAL WITH BOATS COMING IN OR OUT OF THE MARINA SPECIFICALLY.
UH, THE FISHING CLUBS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA, NORMALLY THE BOATERS ARE VERY RESPECTFUL.
UM, WHEN THEY USE THE AREA WHERE WE LIVE NORMALLY THEY ARE IN THE ELECTRIC MOTOR, SO SPEED IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UH, WHEN THEY SPEED UP, THEY ARE IN THE CHANNEL, WHICH ARE NOT, UH, OF MY CONCERN AT THIS POINT.
UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT OUR AREA IS BEING USED ALWAYS AS A SWIMMING AREA OF THE LAKE AND, UH, ESPECIALLY DURING THE LAST YEAR, SOMETIMES, UH, NORMALLY, UH, DURING, UH, UH, SPECIFIC WEEKENDS OR DURING WEEKENDS, WE HAVE UP TO 22 BOATS PARK OVER THERE AND A LOT OF CHILDREN ARE SWIMMING IN THAT AREA.
THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS THE SPEED OF THE BOATS THAT ARE COMING WITH JET SKIS OR SKIING, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE BOATS THAT ARE ANCHOR IN THE FRONT AND THEY GO THROUGH AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, A, A TIMING BOMB REALLY, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT OVER THERE.
WE HAVE SO MANY BOATS THAT SOME OF THEM PARK IN THE AREA OF THE CHANNEL, WHICH WAS MORE OF A CONCERN JUST FOR YOU TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
UM, I HAVE REPLACED THREE TIMES THE WATER PUMP THAT I HAVE ATTACHED TO MY DOCK BECAUSE THEY HAD CRASH THEIR BOATS IN INTO THE, THE, THE, THE PUMP AND THEY HAD DAMAGE THE PUMP.
THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYBODY.
I HAVE A, A BUOY THAT I, I PLACED IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY OF NO WAKE, AND EITHER THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ, THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE OR
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MOST CONCERN IS THAT THEY NEVER GOT AN OPERATOR LICENSE FOR A VESSEL.SO I CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE SPEED IN THAT AREA.
THE BUOYS, I THINK THEY ARE WELL PLACED.
I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT EVEN REDUCING THE SPEED, I DON'T THINK.
AGAIN, THERE ARE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA IN, IN, IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS OF THE MARINA BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, I'VE SEEN VERY RESPECTFUL PEOPLE OVER THERE, PEOPLE WHO KNOWS HOW TO OPERATE BOATS.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF BOATS THAT ARE, UM, WHAT I CALL FOREIGN PEOPLE OR, UH, JET SKIS IN IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR, FOR ANYTHING.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, I LIVE AT 18,001 60, UH, WOCK WAY.
I'M RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE ISLAND.
I SENT SOME VIDEOS IN TO, UH, DR. MOORE AND, UH, MR. MASSENGILL AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ISLAND IN PARTICULAR.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TREATING IT AS A RACETRACK, ESPECIALLY WITH THE JET SKIS.
THEY COME THROUGH WITH BOATS, TOWING PEOPLE ON SKIS, TOWING PEOPLE ON TUBES, AND THEY'RE JUST WIDE OPEN.
UM, I THINK, UH, DR. MOORE AND BOTH, UH, MR. MASSENGILL WERE, UH, BOTH, UH, APPRISED OF AN INCIDENT THAT, UH, MY NEIGHBOR SAW HAPPEN.
UH, MY NEIGHBOR HAS, UH, TWO BOYS, UH, ONE WAS IN THEIR FISHING BOAT RIGHT OFF THE CORNER OF THE, OF THE ISLAND FISHING, AND ONE OF THE TOURNAMENTS STARTED UP AND THEY COME BLASTING OUT OF THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, MOUTH OF WHIPPER KNOT CREEK.
AND ONE BOATER JUST DECIDES HE'S GONNA HOOK A RIGHT AND JUST BEAT EVERYBODY AROUND THE ISLAND.
HE WAS COMING STRAIGHT FOR MY NEIGHBOR'S SON, FOUR FEET OFF THE BACK OF THE MOTOR, BLEW WATER ALL INTO THE BOAT.
HIS SON SAID HE COULD SEE THE DRIVER SAWING AT THE WHEEL BECAUSE HE HAD NO CONTROL TRYING TO, TRYING NOT TO HIT HIM.
AND MY AND MY NEIGHBOR WAS JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON THE, ON THE DOCK ABOUT TO GO CRAZY.
DIDN'T, DIDN'T HIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THAT HAPPENS.
I MEAN, UM, I'VE SEEN HIM COME OUT TO COVE AND THE FIRST GUY OUT TO COVE STOPS HIS BOAT AND STARTS FISHING OFF THE CORNER, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS BLASTING BY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET TO THEIR, TO THEIR, THEIR PLACE TO, UH, TO FISH.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT AND, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT IT CAN CAUSE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME TIME DIFFERENCES.
I KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, PEOPLE WONDERING, WELL, IF THREE OR FOUR FISHERMEN SLOW DOWN FOR THE NO WAKE AND THE OTHER WAS BLAST THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IS THAT FAIR? I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY.
UM, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO, TO STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OTHERS ON THE LAKE.
UM, I'VE SEEN SOME, SOME PRETTY CRAZY STUFF COMING THROUGH THERE, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HURT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO ENTRANCES.
THERE'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS.
YOU COULD HAVE TWO BOATS COMING AROUND, ONE AROUND THE ISLAND, ONE FROM THE OTHER END AND GO UP INTO THE COVE.
YOU GOT SOMEBODY COMING OUT OF THE COVE AND TRYING TO GO LEFT.
YOU GOT SOMEBODY COMING OUT AND GOING AROUND THE ISLAND WHERE YOU GOT SOMEBODY CUTTING AROUND THE ISLAND.
SO THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES OF BOATS COMING THROUGH THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY A MATHEMATICAL SITUATION HERE.
UM, WE WERE SITTING IN THE LAST MEETING AND THE MAPS EXPERT TOLD US IT'S 175 FEET FROM THE BANK TO THE BANK.
SO YOU GOT A 40 FOOT, A 42 FOOT FLOATING DOCK WITH RAMP OUT THERE.
YOU GOTTA MAINTAIN 50 FEET OFF OF THAT DOCK TO BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE AT FULL SPEED.
YOU GOT A BOAT THAT'S BASS BOATS, SIX FEET WIDE, SEVEN FEET PONTOON BOATS, EIGHT FEET WIDE.
YOU GOT TWO EIGHT FOOT WIDE PONTOON BOATS TRYING TO GO PAST EACH OTHER.
AND YOU GOT A BANK OVER THERE THAT YOU GOTTA FIT ALL THAT IN.
WHAT'S A SAFE OPERATING SPEED TO HAVE TWO BOATS PASS? SO, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? SOMEBODY GETS CLOSER TO THE DOCK SO THAT THEY CAN STAY AWAY FROM THE OTHER APPROACHING BOAT.
MY SAME NEIGHBOR THAT LIVED BESIDE ME WAS ON HIS PONTOON BOAT.
EVERYBODY WAS AT NO WAKE SPEED NOW THE PASSING PONTOON
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BOAT AND HERE COME A BASS BOAT RIGHT BETWEEN 'EM.HE SAID HE COULD HAVE SPIT IN THE BOAT AND, YOU KNOW, SO PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT ENFORCED IT AND IT'S KNOWN THAT IT'S NOT ENFORCED.
UH, AND SO SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA ABIDE BY THE BUOY AND SOME AREN'T.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'VE SEEN BOATS COME THROUGH THERE WIDE OPEN AND I'VE HEARD 'EM YELLING, USED INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE AND BASICALLY FORGET ABOUT THE BUOYS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THIS, YOU KNOW, SETTLED TONIGHT AND GET IT PASSED.
UH, THREE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, LONGER TO GET TO YOUR FISHING HOLE IS, IS IS WORTH A LIFE.
I'M THE ONE WITH THE FLOATING DOCK.
THE RULES OF THE WATER STATE THAT IF YOU ARE WITHIN 50 FEET OF A DOCK, SWIMMERS OR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WATER, A BOATHOUSE OR BOAT RAMPS, YOU MUST TRAVEL AT NO WAKE SPEED.
THEY ALSO STATE THAT BOATS MUST REDUCE SPEED WHEN PASSING OR APPROACHING OTHER BOATS, BOATS ACED IN THE WATER, BOATS AFFIXED TO A DOCK OR, OR THE SHORE AS TO NOT CAUSE HARM TO OTHER BOATERS OR DAMAGE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THESE RULES ARE SIMPLY NOT APPLIED IN THIS CONGESTED AREA.
THIS AREA NEEDS NO WAKE BUOYS FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
FISHERMEN OFTEN FISH BOTH SIDES OF WHIP ORNOT CREEK, THE MOUTH AROUND THE ISLAND AND IN BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLAND, MOST OF THE TIME STANDING UP IN THEIR BOATS ALL TOO FREQUENTLY.
WE'VE WITNESSED THAT BOATS AND JET SKIS HAVE FLOWN PAST THESE FISHERMEN WITHIN A MATTER OF FEET, CAUSING THEM TO BE WAKED AND NEARLY FALL OUT OF THEIR BOATS.
BOATS OFTENTIMES STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE ISLAND AND THEY'LL DROP THEIR TUBES OR SKIS IN THE WATER, AND THEN THEY'LL REMAIN THERE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES.
THEY ALSO DROP THEIR KIDS IN THE WATER FOR THEIR KIDS TO CLIMB ON THE TUBES BEFORE ENTERING OUT INTO THE MAIN LAKE.
BOATERS OFTEN PULL TUBES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AROUND THE SIDE OF THE ISLAND AND THROUGH WHIP KNOT CREEK SEVERAL TIMES EVERY WEEKEND, KIDS FALL OFF OF THESE TUBES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK WITH BOATS BEARING DOWN ON THEM FROM BEHIND.
ANY BOATS TRAVELING AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED COULD EASILY RUN OVER.
THESE CHILDREN WOULD HAVE ONLY SECONDS TO TRY TO AVOID THEM.
GIVEN HOW NARROW THE CREEK IS, IF BOATS ARE TRAVELING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TUBERS, IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR BOATS TO TAKE EVASIVE MANEUVERS.
THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN OF WHY NOT TO HAVE WEIGHT ZONES SEEM TO USE TRIGGER WORDS SUCH AS LIABILITY AND UNSAFE TO CONVINCE THE BOARD THAT BY INSTALLING NO WEIGHT ZONES WOULD IN SOME WAY HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON DENWOODY COUNTY.
IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT IF A NO WEIGHT ZONE IS INSTALLED IN AN ACCIDENT WERE TO HAPPEN IN THAT AREA, THAT SOMEHOW THE COUNTY WOULD BEAR LIABILITY FOR THAT.
IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE THAT BY INSTALLING A SAFER AREA FOR ALL, THAT ANY ACCIDENT WOULD CREATE LIABILITY FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE ACCIDENT.
IF SOMEONE SLOWS DOWN TO GO THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE, IF SOMEONE ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO REAR ENDS THAT PERSON, ARE YOU GONNA SUE THE COUNTY AND THE STATE? ARE YOU GONNA SUE THE PERSON THAT RAN INTO YOU? ARE YOU GONNA SUE THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T OUT THERE MAINTAINING THE SPEED LIMIT THAT DAY? OR ARE YOU GONNA SUE THE PERSON THAT RAN INTO YOU? IT HAS ALSO BEEN SUGGESTED BY INSTALLING NO WAKE ZONES, HAVING BOATS AND JET SKIS SLOW DOWN FROM HIGH RATE TO SPEED, TRAVELING TO LESS THAN FIVE MILES AN HOUR, WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE, UM, OR RECOGNIZED NO WAKE SPEED WOULD SOMEONE MAKE, WOULD SOMEHOW MAKE THIS A LESS SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE NOW REDUCING SPEEDS AROUND BLIND QUARTERS IN THIS CONGESTED AREA.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A MUCH SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR BOATERS AND OTHER PEOPLE USING THE WATER RECREATIONALLY.
THE MAIN OPPOSITION TO THESE BUOYS THAT IT TAKES AN EXTRA THREE MINUTES OR SO TO GO EACH WAY BETWEEN THE ESTIMATED 1000 FEET BETWEEN THE PROPOSED BUOYS.
THE BOATERS CANNOT TRAVEL AS FAST AS THEY WOULD LIKE GIVEN THE MAKEUP OF THIS AREA AT CERTAIN TIMES WITH SWIMMERS, OTHER BOATERS PEOPLE, FISHING BOATS ANCHORED AND BOATS TRAVELING IN THE PROPOSED AREA SHOULD BE TRAVELING AT NO WAKE SPEED OR REDUCED SPEED ANYWAY TO PROPERLY ADHERE TO THE LAWS OF THE WATER.
AS STATED ABOVE, THIS IS SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING.
THE ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES SEEMS LIKE A MINIMAL SACRIFICE TO CREATE A MUCH SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL USERS.
IT HAS ALSO BEEN SUGGESTED THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE PROPOSED AREA SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IF THEY DID NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH BOATS TRAVELING AT HIGH UNSAFE SPEEDS.
ONE, THAT HOMEOWNERS SHOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF SAFETY AND THAT BOATERS ALLOW, OR FOR BOATERS TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE WATER AS STATED ABOVE.
IT ALSO SUGGESTS THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY THIS AREA RECREATIONALLY SWIMMERS, KAYAKERS, FISHERMEN, AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE USING CANOES WITHIN THE WATER, DON'T HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO ENJOY THIS AREA AS EVERYONE ELSE, IT SUGGESTS THEY CAN FIND OTHER AREAS IN WHICH THE RECREATE.
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BE USED AS A BOATING INTERSTATE TO QUICKLY ACCESS THE MAIN LAKE WITHOUT REGARD TO ANYONE ELSE, THE USE OF THIS AREA IS FOR EVERYONE AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.AREAS LIKE THE COVE BEHIND THE ISLAND IN WHIP ORITE CREEK ALLOW FOR THE ABOVE RECREATIONAL USERS TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO ESCAPE THE MAIN ACTIVITY THAT'S ON THE MAIN PART OF THE LAKE AND STILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE LAKE.
ALL TOO OFTEN WHEN WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE A STOPLIGHT, A SCHOOL ZONE, A ROUNDABOUT OR A NO WAKE ZONE, WE'RE DOING IT AS A REACTIVE MEASURE DUE TO A SERIES OF ACCIDENTS OR TRAGIC DEATH, DENWITTY COUNTY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PROACTIVE BY VOTING THESE NO WAKE BUOYS INTO PLACE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BE REACTIVE WHEN AN ACCIDENT DOES HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
I DO RESPECT THE VOTE THIS EVENING, WHETHER IT'S FOR OR AGAINST, I'M ASKING THAT YOU VOTE YES TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL CITIZENS THAT USE THE PROPOSED, PROPOSED AREAS.
EVERYONE DESERVES REPRESENTATION IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO RECREATE.
THANK YOU JASON BROOKS, HOW ARE Y'ALL? GOOD EVENING.
GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? UM, MAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE BASS FISHERS ARE GETTING THE WORST OF THIS.
BUT JASON, JUST, JUST NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I WANNA READ SOMETHING THAT I, I, I WAS LOOKING ON THE APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY PAGE THAT WAS PRINTED ON MAY 23RD, 2023.
I'M ONLY GONNA READ THE SECOND THROUGH THE FOURTH PARAGRAPHS.
ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2022, THERE WAS A FATAL BOATING ACCIDENT ON LAKE CHEIN.
UNFORTUNATELY, TWO INDIVIDUALS WERE THROWN INTO THE WATER AND LOST THEIR LIVES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THESE INDIVIDUALS AND CONVEY THE DEEPEST SYMPATHIES THOUGHTS, PRAYERS TO THEIR FAMILIES.
MULTIPLE AGENCIES PARTICIPATED IN THIS INVESTIGATION WITH THE LEAD AGENCY BEING THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.
THE FINDINGS FROM THE INVESTIGATION WERE COMPLETED IN A LATE APRIL AND FORWARDED TO THE DENWOODY COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SINCE THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED IN DENWOODY COUNTY SIDE OF THE LAKE.
NO FURTHER ACTIONS BEING TAKEN.
THE APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY BOARD DIRECTORS AND STAFF REVIEWED THE FINDINGS AND HELD ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH DWR STAFF.
THE REPORT AND FOLLOW UP DISCUSSIONS ESTABLISHED THAT SITE DISTANCE AND LATE CONDITIONS DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT.
THERE'LL BE NO RECOMMENDATIONS MADE FOR ADDITIONAL NAVIGATIONAL AIDS OR ANY NEW LAKE ORDINANCES TO INCREASE THE SAFETY.
NEXT, UM, UM, I HAVE A PUBLIC PETITION HERE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME SIGNATURES ON.
I THINK IT'S, UH, 62 IN TOTAL.
I'D LIKE TO READ THIS TO YOU, BUT I DON'T WANNA USE ALL MY TIME UP.
IT SAYS, UM, PETITION, PUBLIC PETITION.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT DENWOOD COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON TUESDAY, JULY 18TH, 2023 AT 7:00 PM PLANS TO MEET IN THE GOVERNMENT BUILDING.
AND IT GIVES THE ADDRESS, IT SAYS NO WAKE BUOYS AT THE MOUTH OF WOCK CREEK.
THE CURRENT PLACEMENT OF THE THREE NO WAKE ZONE BUOYS AT THE MOUTH OF WOCK CREEK LEADING ANYTHING TO LAKE CHESTERTON HAS OR WILL BE ADDED TO AND RELOCATED ON OR BEFORE JULY 18TH, 2023.
THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY HAS BROUGHT THEIR CONCERNS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGARDING THE CURRENT THREE NO WAKE ZONE BUOYS AND THEIR PLACEMENT.
THAT WAS WHERE THEY WERE TWO DAYS AGO, NOT WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
DENWOODY COUNTY AND THE APPROXIMATE AND APPT RIVER WATER AUTHORITY HAS PROPOSED ADDING ADDITIONAL NO WAKE ZONE BUOYS AND CHANGING THE LOCATIONS TO THE ONE THROUGH FOUR LATS AND LONGS THAT Y'ALL SEEN.
THE PROPOSED NEW LOCATIONS AND ADDITIONAL BUOYS WILL CREATE MORE CONFUSION AND ULTIMATELY WILL CREATE GREATER SAFETY RISKS, NOT JUST FOR BOATERS TRAVELING THROUGH THE NEW PROPOSED NO WAKE ZONE, BUT ALSO FOR BOATERS TRAVELING EAST AND WEST ON LAKE CHESTER.
THE EXTENDED ALE TIME THROUGH THE PROPOSED NO WAKE ZONE WILL ALSO CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD INSIDE WHIPPLE NUT CREEK ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE THAT CROSSES THE CREEK.
JUST LIKE MR. MUNOZ SAYS BACK HERE WHERE HE LIVES AT CLOSER TO THE BRIDGE.
THE SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION ARE NOT JUST RESIDENTS OF DENWOODY COUNTY, BUT ARE PERSONS WHO, WHO USE LAKE CHEIN FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN JUST FISHING AND HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS.
WITH THE MOST RECENT PROPOSAL OF THE ADDITIONAL BUOYS, THE LATS AND LAWNS THAT WE LOOKED AT EARLIER, WE, THE UNDERSIGNED ELIGIBLE RECREATIONALISTS OF LAKE CHEIN, WHIPPER KNOT CREEK, AND THE COUNTY OF DENWOODY, VIRGINIA UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT, HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION WITH PLANS TO PRESENT THIS PETITION WITH SIGNATURES TO THE DENWOODY COUNTY
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BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON JULY 18TH, 2023, IN HOPES THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION IN FEAR OF OUR PERSONAL SAFETY WHILE PARTICIPATING IN REC ITIES ON LAKE CHESTER, NO MATTER WHAT IT MAY BE.IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS, I HAD TO JUST A SECOND.
UM, LIKE THE GUY BEFORE MR. GORE, WHEN, UM, I AGREE WITH HIM, THE HAZARD IS BEHIND THE ISLAND.
HE'S BEEN SAYING IT SINCE DAY ONE.
UM, REAL QUICK, UM, WHAT'S THE APP? DOES THE WATER AUTHORITY APPROVED FOR THE DOCKS TO BE PLACED ON THERE? THEY GOTTA GET A PERMIT OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? MM-HMM
ARE FLOATING DOCKS PERMITTED ON THE LAKE? YES, THEY ARE.
THEY'RE, WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME, WITH THAT FLOATING DOCK BEING THERE, THAT FLOATING DOCK IS INCREASING THE RISK OF A HAZARD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT DOCK, IT HADN'T BEEN A HAZARD IN THE LAST 50 YEARS.
BARBARA WILLIAMS SAID SHE'D BEEN THERE 50 YEARS, OWNED AND OPERATED WOP MARINA.
AND NOT ONE ACCIDENT HAS HAPPENED INSIDE THAT CREEK.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THIS FLOATING DOCK THAT THAT'S NAILED THERE, THAT WAS A PERMIT WAS APPROVED OUT OF WATER AUTHORITY, HAS INCREASED THE RISK OF A HAZARD HAPPENING IN THAT CREEK, IN MY EYES.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GONNA VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.
WHETHER YOU DO OR YOU DON'T, I ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST IT AND I'VE GOT 67 OTHER PEOPLE THAT ASK THAT YOU DO AS WELL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT? I DO.
I'D LIKE TO STATE PHONE COME RIGHT ON UP TO THIS PODIUM.
MY NAME'S BARBARA WILLIAMS. I'M WHIP NOT MARINE AND CAMPGROUND WITH MY HUSBAND GEORGE.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE, THE LAKE ITSELF, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, HAS A GREAT SAFETY RECORD.
WE'VE BEEN THERE 50 YEARS AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME ANYBODY'S GET BEEN KILLED.
AND IT WASN'T RIGHT IN OCK CREEK, IT WAS ON DOWN FROM THE CREEK.
UH, CHESTERFIELD COUNTY IS THE ONE THAT PATROLS THE LAKE AND THEY HAVE THE POLICE OUT THERE ON THE WEEKENDS.
HE TOLD ME THEY WERE GONNA BE THERE FROM THURSDAY UNTIL SUNDAY.
NOW I DON'T SEE 'EM A WHOLE LOT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T ALWAYS COME IN THE STORE, BUT I THINK THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE CREEK THAT COULD BE PATROLLED A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO MAYBE COULD WE GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CHESTERFIELD POLICE AND ASK THEM WHEN THEY PATROL OUR CREEK MORE AND MAYBE SOMETIME ANOTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS, THE LAKE'S GROWN.
MORE PEOPLE, MORE SUBDIVISIONS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE COME UP THE LAKE PAST THE MARINA ON UP NEAR, WE GO INTO AMELIA.
SO MAYBE THEN WE ON, ON FAR DOWN THE ROAD CAN PUT SOME, UH, POLICE ON THE LAKE TOO.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CASE? YES, SIR.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD EVENING.
I LIVE AT 91 16 HICKORY ROAD IN CHESTERFIELD, VIRGINIA.
I'VE BEEN FISHING AT LAKE FOR ABOUT 45 YEARS NOW.
I'VE NEVER KNOWN OF ANY ACCIDENTS TO HAPPEN ON THE LAKE UP UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THIS PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, THE LAKE HAS REALLY GROWN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LAKE NOW A LOT.
AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU ALL RIGHT NOW, US BASS FISHERMEN OUT THERE ARE THE SAFEST PEOPLE ON THE WATER.
I SEE A LOT OF THINGS ON THE WATER, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE POLICED ON OUR LAKE IS ALCOHOL.
AND THAT'S THE REASON ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON, ON THE LAKE.
LIKE THEY ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS PEOPLE ARE AND EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, IF YOU COME OUT THERE ON THE WEEKEND, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT.
AND I JUST THINK WE NEED PEOPLE OUT THERE POLICING STUFF LIKE THIS.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S CASE.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? UM, SO YOU HAVE YOUR, GOT YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT.
UH, HOW WOULD YOU PATROL THIS? I MEAN, WOULD THERE BE A, A TICK BE TICKETED IF YOU'RE CAUGHT? HOW DOES THAT WORK AND WHAT KIND OF FINE IS IT FOR BEING STOPPED? SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL WOULD BE DOING TONIGHT IS, IS MOVING FORWARD WITH AN APPLICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES TO MAKE THIS AREA A NO WAKE ZONE.
WITH IT BEING AN OFFICIAL ZONE, WE WOULD THE, UH, MARINE PATROL ON THE WATER, WHETHER THAT WAS DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES OR CHESTERFIELD COUNTY THROUGH AME WATER
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AUTHORITY, WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT POWER OVER THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.SO IF IT WERE TO BE SEEN THAT A, A BOAT JET SKI, PONTOON, WHAT HAVE YOU, WAS TRAVELING AT A, AT AND BEYOND, A NO WAKE SPEED, THEY WOULD HAVE THE, THE AUTHORITY TO PULL THEM OVER AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT IT.
NOW, WHETHER THEY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH TICKETING THEM, I GUESS IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE RECKLESSNESS NATURE OF IT AND, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD DECIDE TO DO AS FAR AS THE SPECIFIC FINE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
MS. SOUTHALL, YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE? AS FAR AS A SPECIFIC FINE? I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SPECIFIC FINE, I TELL YOU.
THE, THE FINE FOR NO WEIGHT WITHIN 50 FEET OF A DOCK IS $50 PLUS COURT COSTS.
MY RESEARCH SAYS THE COUNTY HAS TO INSTITUTE THE PENALTY SINCE THE COUNTY IS THE ONE THAT, SO IT BE UP TO THE COUNTY DETERMINE THE PENALTY, THE ACTUAL PENALTY DEFENDANT.
SO ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WAS THE ACTUAL SPEED ON THE LAKE.
WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT? 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS ON THE LAKE.
AND, AND SO MOST RECENTLY, UH, THROUGH THE WATER AUTHORITIES EFFORTS, UH, EVERY BOAT LANDING HAS NOW BEEN POSTED WITH 45 MILE HOUR SPEED.
PRIVATE BOAT LANDINGS ARE ALSO BEEN, AS FAR AS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LOCATIONS, UH, HAVE ALSO BEEN POSTED.
AND AGAIN, THE PUBLIC BOAT LANDING THAT HAS NOW BEEN POSTED FOR THE 45, UH, MILE AN HOUR SPEED.
BUT IT, IT IS 45 MILES PER HOUR.
SO IF I'M COMING THROUGH WEAPON LOT CREEK CURRENTLY, I CAN DO 45 MILES AN HOUR COMING THROUGH THERE IF I CHOOSE TO.
OUT NOT FAR FROM, UH, GEORGE AND, AND BARBARA'S MARINA, THEY DO HAVE A, I THINK A SELF-IMPOSED BUOY FOR NO WAKE AND, AND RIGHT.
AND THAT, THAT TENDS TO, TO BE FOLLOWED FROM MY YEARS OUT THERE.
UH, BUT AFTER YOU GET, UM, BEYOND THE, UM, THE BRIDGE.
AND THEN YOU CAN GO AT A 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED PRESENTLY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD I GET KAISHA, COULD YOU PUT THE PICTURE BACK UP OF, OF THE BUOYS? AND I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS, BUT Y'ALL GO AHEAD FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND I JUST, JUST ADDITIONAL STATEMENT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE INCIDENT WITH THE FATALITY, UH, SOME OF THESE BUOY LOCATIONS WERE ACTUALLY BEING LOOKED AT BEFORE THE FATALITY TOOK PLACE.
AND SO I TRIED TO SPECIFY AT THE MAY 16TH MEETING, THE LOCATION OF THESE BUOYS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INVESTIGATION AT THE OTHER POINT.
AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, THIS WAS A, A COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND DISTINCT ISSUE THAT RESULTED IN, IN OUR REVIEW OF THIS.
WELL, UM, AFTER THE FIRST MEETING, UM, I WANTED TO, I, I'VE BEEN IN WOCK CREEK BEFORE, BUT UM, I WASN'T REAL FAMILIAR.
SO MY SON-IN-LAW, DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER AND I WENT OVER AND, AND RODE IN WOCK CREEK AND TRIED TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH IT.
AND SO WE WENT ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO THE BRIDGE AT
UM, SO WE DIDN'T GO VERY FAST.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE THAT FIRST BOOTY IS TO THE, THE MAIN PART OF THE LAKE, I DON'T THINK TIME IS, IS A CONSIDERATION.
UM, I, I DO SOMEWHAT SEE THE CONGESTION PROBLEM ON BUSY WEEKENDS, BUT AGAIN, THAT COMES BACK TO I THINK, MORE ENFORCEMENT ON THE LAKE.
AND THE ALCOHOL IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM ON THE LAKE ON THE WEEKENDS.
IN FACT, ALCOHOL'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE ON THE WEEKENDS, WEEKDAYS, UM, TALKING ABOUT SPEED, GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND DRIVE 95 TO RICHMOND THIS AFTERNOON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
YOU'LL SEE EVERYBODY FROM 55 MILES AN HOUR TO 90 MILES AN HOUR.
SO WITHOUT SOME ENFORCEMENT THERE, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND IF YOU COME IN WHIP KNOT CREEK AT 45 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S FAST.
UM, SO, AND IT'S JUST LIKE THESE BACK ROADS.
YOU CAN DRIVE 55 ON ANY RURAL ROAD AND THEN WITH
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THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S TOO FAST IF A DEAL JUMPS OUT IN FRONT OF YOU OR YOU COME AROUND THE CURVE AND IT'S A COMBINE IN THE TAKEN UP THE WHOLE ROAD.SO SOMETIMES POSTED SPEEDS DON'T MEAN A WHOLE LOT.
UM, I, I SAY TRY IT, UM, AND, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A, A REAL DETRIMENT TO ANYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST TALKED, SOME OF THE FISHERMEN STATED 30 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF WHIPPING OUT, UM, CREEK, AND I KNOW MS. WILLIAMS AND THEM, UM, HAVE HAD A GOOD BUSINESS, UM, AND, UM, CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HURT THEM IN ANY WAY.
UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK THIS DOES.
UM, AND CERTAINLY, UM, A THURSDAY NIGHT BASS TOURNAMENT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN A SATURDAY MORNING WHEN IT'S 95 DEGREES.
UM, AND THE NUMBER OF BOATS ON, ON LAKE CHESTER, SO, OKAY.
WELL, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUOYS AND OF COURSE I WAS LISTENING TO, UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS FOR, UM, THE WATER.
AND, UM, I LISTENED TO SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE SAFETY, UH, CONCERN AROUND HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS.
AND THE THING OF IT IS, UM, IF BOATS ARE COMING IN AT A FAST AMOUNT OF SPEED, IT IS, UM, IT WOULD BE BAD FOR THE BOAT.
THE OTHER BOATS THAT'S, THAT'S THERE, THAT'S DOCKED PEOPLE IN THE WATER, UM, UH, THE ONES ON THE, UM, SKIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT, UM, IT'LL BE A PROBLEM AND SOMEBODY COULD GET HURT.
UM, YES, I HEARD ABOUT, UM, HAVING A KIND OF, ALMOST A STELLAR RECORD, UM, AT THE MARINA AND NO ACCIDENTS, WHICH IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT, UM, UH, THINGS DO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK EVEN LOOKING BACK ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, THAT LOST THEIR LIVES, UM, THAT THAT WAS A BAD, THAT WAS A AWFUL SITUATION, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, UM, DRIVING OUTSIDE OF THE MARINA, YOU ENFORCEMENT IS THE KEY.
AND, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO BE THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE, BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT, UM, THE WAY THE BUOYS ARE OR THE ONES THAT'S PROPOSED AND WHATNOT, AND I THINK IF SOMEBODY'S COMING, UM, AROUND THE CORNER, THEY HAVE TO SLOW UP THEN IF THEY WANNA SPEED BACK UP AND BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, UM, I CAN SEE SOMEONE HAVING A SITUATION OR MAYBE AN ACCIDENT AT THAT TIME.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, TO ME SLOWING DOWN IS, IS SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.
I MEAN, BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN LIVE TO TALK ABOUT IT ANOTHER DAY IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE, CHILDREN, OR, OR, UH, WHATNOT, THEY'RE NOT, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AS CAREFUL AS MAYBE, UH, A, UM, EXPERIENCE ADULT OUTSIDE.
SO YOU JUST WANNA MAKE SURE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE CONCEPT AND LOOK AT EVERYONE.
AND, AND I, AND I JUST THINK THAT, UM, FOR THE SAFETY CONCERN FOR EVERYONE, THE ENFORCEMENT TO ME APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THE MAJOR KEYS TO, UM, HELP AT THE MARINA.
ALRIGHT, LET ME, LEMME GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS.
UM, A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.
SO IF THE BUOYS ARE NOT PUT IN PLACE AND THE SPEED LIMIT IS 45 THROUGH THERE, UM, WHAT AM I TELLING CHESTERFIELD HOW TO ENFORCE THIS PARTICULAR AREA? OKAY, I, OKAY, LET ME, LEMME KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME THINGS FIRST AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UM, SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENFORCE THROUGH THERE.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING CHANGES OTHER THAN SAYING WE NEED YOUR HELP OUT ON THE LAKE WITH CHESTERFIELD.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CHESTERFIELD ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
THE LAKE IS A PRETTY GOOD LARGE LAKE AND THEY HAVE ONE BOAT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING TO, TO GO OUT AND POLICE THE POLICE, THE LAKE.
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IS GROWTH.JUST THE AVERAGE OVERALL GROWTH ON THE, ON THE LAKE, WHETHER IT'S CHESTERFIELD OR WHETHER IT'S DENWITTY SIDE, UM, CREATES MORE ACTIVITY.
WELL, IF I GO BACK 15, 20 YEARS AGO, NONE OF THOSE HOUSES PROBABLY EXISTED ON THAT POINT EITHER.
SO TIME SOMETHING HAS CHANGED OKAY.
SO IF WE DOING NOTHING TO ME IS NOT AN OPTION, OKAY? THAT'S MY OPINION.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.
UM, SO WE HAD SITTING IN A ROOM WITH, WITH OTHER FISHERMEN AND INDIVIDUALS PRETTY MUCH CONSENSUS ON THE THREE BUOYS THAT ARE FOUR, THREE, AND TWO.
I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WAS PRETTY, PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
IT'S THE BUOY LOCATION NUMBER ONE THAT CREATES THE HEARTBURN.
WELL, I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BUOY DID.
I'M GONNA LET YOU SPEAK IN JUST A MINUTE.
SO TO ME, IF YOU DON'T PUT BUOY NUMBER ONE IN LOCATION IN ITS SPOT, THERE'S, IF I'M COMING OUT OF WOCK CREEK AND I'M HEADING OUT ONTO THE LAKE, AM I REALLY GONNA STOP AT NUMBER TWO? IF I'VE GOT IT BORE DOWN, AM I GONNA STOP IT TOO? LET'S BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER, OKAY? I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY.
YOU'RE GONNA BACK DOWN WHEN YOU SEE BUOY NUMBER TWO AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BRAISE IT BACK UP AND GO, WHY? I JUST DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I SEE BUOY NUMBER ONE IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PROCESS, OKAY? UM, WE ALL KNOW FROM A JET SKI POINT OF VIEW THAT GOING THROUGH THEIR, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS CRAZY ON THE WEEKENDS, OKAY? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE ACTIVITY ON THE LAKE HAS INCREASED AND I IT'S GOING TO INCREASE AS WE GO ALONG.
IT'S JUST BY SIMPLE AVERAGE GROWTH.
SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN YOU TALK TO CHESTERFIELD TO SAY YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING HERE ORDINANCE WISE THAT THEY CAN WORK OFF OF, OKAY? THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.
NOW, THE, THE LAST PIECE OF IT IS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM COMING BACK HERE AND, AND EVALUATING THIS NEXT SPRING OR SUMMER TO SEE WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED BECAUSE THESE CAN BE CHANGED AND MOVED AT ANY TIME.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT AS FAR AS TRYING TO MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO CONGREGATE ON THE LAKE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE MINUTES BETWEEN BUOY NUMBER ONE AND BUOY NUMBER TWO.
I DON'T, I'M, I HOPE THAT THAT'S, EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
OKAY? NOW WHAT?
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY MY PART.
I LIVE AT, UH, 2 2 0 6 PLUM TREE AVENUE CLIENT HEIGHT HOUSE, A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF DENWITTY.
I WORK FOR UPS, I'M A SAFETY DRIVING INSTRUCTOR FOR UPS.
BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE BUOYS, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHAT A BUOY, THAT'S A, THAT IS A ROAD SIGN.
YOU CAN'T HAVE BUOY BUOY NUMBER TWO WITHOUT BUOY NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T HAVE BUOY NUMBER FOUR WITHOUT BUOY NUMBER ONE.
BUT BUOY NUMBER THREE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
'CAUSE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS, THE, THE LAW OF THE, OF THE WATER IS.
WHEN I GET TO THE OUTSIDE BUOY, I SET THE BOAT DOWN, I CAN AL TO THE NEXT BUOY, THEN I CAN GET BACK ON THE PLANE.
AND WE, SO IF I'M COMING FROM DOWN LAKE, I HIT THIS FIRST BUOY, WE, SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW IS GOING TO GET THE BUOY NUMBER THREE AND GET BACK UP.
YOU FOLLOW ME? THEY GONNA COME IN, THEY'RE GONNA SET IT DOWN ON BOWIE NUMBER FOUR.
THEY'RE GONNA COME AROUND BEHIND THE ISLAND AND WHEN THEY GET TO THE NEXT EY, THEY'RE GONNA GET BACK ON PLANE.
BOWIE NUMBER ONE STARTS THE I ZONE.
BOWIE NUMBER TWO ENDS IT, BUIE NUMBER THREE ENDS IT.
EVERYTHING INSIDE OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE IS THE NO WAKE ZONE.
NUMBER THREE IN THAT NO WAKE ZONE PRIOR TO YOU GETTING OUT OF THE NO WAKE ZONE.
YOU FOLLOW ME? NOW, THIS IS JUST, IF YOU HAVE BEEN EDUCATED ON BOAT SAFETY, EVERYTHING, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE SAID ABOUT 50 FEET OFF OF BOAT DOCKS AND THE SPEED YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT SPEED, RIGHT UNDER 50 FEET OF A BOAT.
I RUN THE SATURDAY TOURNAMENTS MM-HMM
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ENFORCED THIS SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE PUT IN THE WATER.THERE'S OTHER TOURNAMENTS UP THERE THAT DO NOT, BUT I HAVE ENFORCED THESE BUOYS SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE PUT IN THE WATER.
AND I, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S JUST AN EXPERIMENT.
THEY'RE NOT THERE PERMANENT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ENFORCED BY US SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE PUT IN THERE.
AND WHAT GOES ON UP THERE ON THE WEEKENDS, I CAN'T TELL YOU.
'CAUSE I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF IT'S A SATURDAY AND I DON'T HAVE TO FISH AND I'LL BACK THE TOURNAMENTS UP TO ONE O'CLOCK, THAT WAY WHEN THE SKIERS GET THERE, THESE GUYS ARE GONE.
I DON'T GO UP THERE ON THE WEEKENDS.
BUT WHEN WE GET BACK TO THESE BUOYS, THE NO, THE NUMBER ONE HAS TO BE IN PLACE TO EFFECTIVELY STARTING NO WAKE ZONE LEAVING THE CREEK.
AND TWO AND THREE HAVE TO BE IN PLACE TO MAKE IT COMING IN.
I MEAN, TWO AND FOUR THREE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, OKAY? BECAUSE THREE IS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR, YOUR CONFUSION.
AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING IT, THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO HAVE A WINDOW WHERE THEY GO UP OUT AND THEY, UH, INFORM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THESE THINGS MEAN.
'CAUSE NO, PEOPLE ARE BLOWING THROUGH THEM.
AND IT'S ONCE, ONCE THE WORDS OUT THERE, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD ONCE THAT, HEY, THIS IS A NO WAY ZONE.
IF WE CATCH YOU HERE AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA GET A TICKET, WRITE THE TICKET.
BUT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME FORM OF VIGILANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SEEN.
THEY HAVE TO, PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BUT I HAVE BEEN FORCED IT TO ANYBODY WHO'S ASSOCIATED WITH ANYTHING I PUT ON SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE PUT IN THE WATER.
IN FACT, THE FIRST TOURNAMENT, WHEN THEY WERE IN THE WATER, WE ALED FROM THE MARINA ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST, ALL THE WAY TO THE SECOND BUIE BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE INTENTIONS WERE.
AND IT WAS THE FOLLOWING MONDAY WHEN I TALKED TO THE GAME COMMISSION, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE BUOYS WERE IN THE LAKE.
AND SO WE'VE GONE FROM THERE AND THERE, WHICH WE GO FROM THE BRIDGE TO THE FIRST BUOY WE GET UP AT.
AND THE THING IS, WE DON'T WANT IT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT, BUT WE LEAVE SATURDAY AT, AT LUNCHTIME OR A LITTLE AFTER.
THESE PEOPLE SEE IT ALL WEEK LONG.
YOU KNOW, SO IT, THERE'S A, WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE ON THIS.
AND I DO BELIEVE, I OWN A HOME ON LAKE GASTON, 4TH OF JULY.
THERE WAS A REALLY BAD ACCIDENT.
AND IT'S EXACT SAME SITUATION.
IT'S A BIG ISLAND, UH, ISLAND AND A LONG CREEK.
THEY WERE SKIING IN THERE AND HIT HEAD ON IN THERE.
AND, UH, WE MET FLIGHTED OUTTA THERE.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I RUN THE TOURNAMENTS AND NONE OF US WANT 'EM, BUT IT'S OBVIOUS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM.
BUT THEY NEED TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE NOT CONFUSING AND THEY CAN BE ENFORCED.
I GOT THANK YOU, JERRY, BEFORE YOU, JERRY, BEFORE YOU GO.
I, I, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR JASON, TONY AND JEFF TOO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE QUESTION ABOUT THREE, IN MY OPINION, I MEAN FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, SO I WANT THE GUYS TO HELP ME HERE, WAS THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF LINE OF SIGHT BETWEEN BUOY NUMBER TWO AND FOUR.
AND THAT BY PUTTING A BUOY, NUMBER THREE IN THE MIDDLE WOULD JUST KEEP A CONTINUOUS LINE OF SIGHT THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE.
BUT IT ACTUALLY, YEAH, I, WE ALL KNOW THAT CREATE CONFUSION FOR SOMEBODY.
IMAGINE SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER BEEN ON THE LAKE FOR THE FIRST TIME, COMES FROM THE PUBLIC BOAT LANDING AND SEES, SEES IT, HE COMES AROUND THAT CURVE.
SO HE SAYS, OH, GOD SETS IT DOWN.
HE AISLES TO THE NEXT ONE AND JUST HAMMERS DOWN AND THE OTHER GUY'S EYEING IT IN, EYEING RIGHT THERE.
AND HE GETS ON PLANE RIGHT THERE AS A, AS A BLIND CORNER.
IT'S NOT BLIND, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CORNER THERE.
BUT IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A SCENARIO THAT WAS USED.
SOMEONE COMING THROUGH THE MOUTH BY BUOY NUMBER TWO AND WANTING TO CIRCLE THE ISLAND, POTENTIALLY WOULDN'T KNOW BEYOND AFTER THE 50 FOOT OF THE FIRST BUOY, BUOY NUMBER TWO, AGAIN, THEY'RE CIRCLING TO GO BY JOE ADDISON'S HOUSE.
THAT THEY WOULD THEN PICK UP SPEED UNTIL THEY SAW ANOTHER BUOY AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN THAT, THAT WAS JUST THE CONVERSATION.
I SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
WELL, LET'S MAKE IT THREE AND A HALF MINUTES AND MOVE TWO FURTHER OUT, FURTHER OUT.
MAKE, BECAUSE SEE, HERE'S THE THING.
IF YOU COME AROUND THE ISLAND, YOU DON'T PICK THE, YOU DON'T PICK THE BUOY UP TILL YOU MAKE THE TURN ANYWAY.
SO ORIGINALLY THE, THE NUMBER TWO SIT FURTHER OUT AND NUMBER TWO IS CONSTANTLY CREEPING IN THE CREEK ON US.
LIKE IT'S BEING PULLED OR EVEN FLOATING LOOSE OR SOMETHING.
BUT THE THING IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM, WE NEED, IT NEEDS TO BE WHERE IT'S VISIBLE BEFORE YOU GET ON TOP OF IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S IDLED UP ON IT FROM COMING OUT AND SOMEBODY COMING IN COMES AROUND AND THEN SEES IT AND NOT FAMILIAR.
'CAUSE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT YOU GOTTA LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
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MR. CHAIRMAN, WHICH BUOY ISN'T THERE NOW, SO THERE ARE THREE, THESE, THESE, THE BUOYS NOW, OTHER THAN BUOY NUMBER FOUR, BUOY NUMBER THREE AND TWO ARE PRESENTLY IN THE WRONG LOCATION.THEY'RE NOT IN THE PROPOSED NEW LAP LONG, THIS PROPOSED BUOY THREE, ISN'T THERE? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
OH, SO THEY MOVED BUOY NUMBER ONE.
YEAH, BUOY NUMBER ONE IS ALL THE WAY AGAINST THE, UH, LAND ON THE INSIDE.
THAT'S WAY UP THERE ONE'S EXACTLY WHERE IT'S, I WOULD PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK.
WHERE IT CAN BE SEEN BECAUSE YOU GOT IT.
IT IS A, IT IS A STOP SIGN BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S A CONTROL.
SO THESE, THESE TWO, I WAS, AND I, I BUY WHAT JERRY'S SAYING TO A POINT, BUT I ALSO SEE THAT IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT, THAT BUOY, BUT I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO THREE AND THEN IF, IF WE GET, GET A POINT WHERE THEY'RE BLOWING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER THAT WE PUT THREE IN, YOU KNOW, TWO AND FOUR AND ONE.
SO MR. LEE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING KEEP LOCATION ONE, PUT TWO, THREE THREE'S IN THE RIGHT, I MEAN FOUR'S IN THE RIGHT LOCATION REMOVED THREE.
YEAH, MAYBE MOVE TWO I JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT HELPS THE PROBLEM OR HURTS THE PROBLEM, BUT YES, THAT'S TONY, MR. DANIELS.
IS THE REASON WHY THREE WAS, WAS PROPOSED IN THE FIRST PLACE IS BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE COMING FROM OCK MARINA GETTING OUT TO, THEY SEE THAT, THAT, UH, BUOY NUMBER TWO, AND THEN THEY'RE HOOKING AROUND THE ISLAND WIDE OPEN.
THEY'RE JUST GOING WIDE OPEN AROUND THE ISLAND AND THEY, THEY LITERALLY ALMOST RUN OVER BOWIE NUMBER FOUR WIDE OPEN.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NO WAKE ZONE WHEN YOU HOOK A RIGHT AND GO AROUND THE ISLAND.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, AND, AND WHETHER IT'S UNORTHODOX OR NOT, MOST, MOST NO WAKE ZONES HAVE A START AND A FINISH BECAUSE IT ONLY HAS TWO AVENUES OF APPROACH.
MOSTLY THIS IS A UNIQUE, UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THREE AVENUES OF APPROACH AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A NO WAKE ZONE THROUGH THOSE THREE AREAS.
AND PEOPLE PASS THAT, THAT THEY, THEY, THEY SLOW DOWN AT BUOY NUMBER ONE, MAKE IT UP TO BUOY NUMBER TWO, AND THEN HOOK RIGHT.
SO IN THE, IN THE ELIMINATION OF LOCATION NUMBER THREE, YOU, YOU STILL HAVE THE BEGINNING OF THE LOCATION NUMBER ONE.
IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE MAIN LAKE INTO THE MOUTH OF THE, OF WHIPPING KNOT CREEK, YOU GOT BUOY LOCATION NUMBER TWO.
IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE MAIN LAKE, BY THE POINT OF MR. PATTISON'S HOUSE, YOU'VE GOT BUOY LOCATION NUMBER FOUR.
IF, UM, BUOY NUMBER LOCATION THREE WERE ELIMINATED TO MR. LEE'S POINT, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT REGARD THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT IN ADDING AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION LATER IF NEED BE SURE.
UM, I, I, I, WE, WE CAN SEE HOW HOW IT GOES.
I MEAN, I'M, Y'ALL KNOW I GOT VIDEOS TO SHOW YOU.
AND I, WE APPRECIATE YOU SENDING THEM TO US.
I, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SEND THEM TO YOU.
IF THEY CONTINUE TO BLOW THEIR ONCE, ONCE WE GOT IT UNDER ENFORCEMENT, WE CAN REVISIT THIS RIGHT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MEAN FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN WE, I THINK, YOU KNOW HOW I AM WITH THE BUDGET, WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THREE, WE HAVEN'T PAID FOR FOUR
I, I'M OKAY IF WE WANTED TO TRY THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT SAY ONE OTHER THING.
I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF BASS PEOPLE THAT OWN A WHOLE LOT OF BASS BOATS AND I THINK MY MENT PEOPLE ARE GETTING BLAMED FOR A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON THE LAKE THAT THEY DON'T DO, THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BLAME THEM FOR.
AND THAT JUST KINDA KICKS ME OFF.
MOST OF MY BASS FISHERMEN ARE VERY RESPECTFUL AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BLAME, BE BLAMED FOR ALL THE SPEED THAT'S ON THE LAKE.
I DO THINK WE NEED MORE POLICE ON THERE.
I KNOW I SELL BEER AT MY LAKE, BUT I DON'T TELL 'EM TO DRINK IT AND HOW MUCH TO DRINK.
SOMEBODY NEEDS SOME FORCE AND IT'S NOT ME, IT'S THE POLICE, THE COUNTY, COUNTY POLICE.
THAT'S THE ONLY COMMON SENSE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK FORWARD AND BARBARA, WE, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN WE MET WITH CHESTERFIELD AND THE WATER AUTHORITY AND, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE OVERALL SAFETY OF LAKE CHESTER.
UM, I MEAN THIS LAKE HAS EXISTED FOR DECADES AND IT IS JUST AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE THAT IT IS AS SAFE AS IT IS.
AND, AND WHAT WE, WE WANTED FROM A WATER AUTHORITY AND
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WE WANTED TO STAY THAT WAY.AND FOR CHESTERFIELD AND DENWOODY, WE DON'T WANNA SEE BUOYS EVERYWHERE.
BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WOULD BE OVERKILL.
UM, BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, MOST PEOPLE ARE BEHAVING THEMSELVES, BUT YOU DO RECOGNIZE THE ONES THAT DON'T AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN DO A BAD THING IS THE CHESTERFIELD POLICE A PATROLLER.
BUT WE, WE SHOULD HAVE SAID AT THE BEGINNING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE USING THIS LEAK, DO IT IN AN EXTREMELY SAFE LAW IN COURTEOUS WAY.
UM, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST DID HERE WAS VERY UN UNORTHODOX FOR US, UM, TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION, BUT PORTION OF IT.
BUT BECAUSE THIS GROUP WAS, WAS VERY CIVIL TO ONE ANOTHER, BOTH SIDES WERE VERY CIVIL TO ONE ANOTHER.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WANTS TO GET THIS THING RIGHT.
SO YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO, DO THAT.
AND I, AND WHO KNOWS WHETHER WE GOT IT RIGHT OR NOT, BUT AT, AT LEAST, BUT WE CAN COME BACK AT, WE CAN COME BACK, RIGHT.
WE CAN COME BACK IF WE NEED TO.
I THINK THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS IN THE ROOM THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND AGAIN, MS. WILLIAMS HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
IT IS, IT IS, IT IS, IT IS GOOD AND BAD IN EVERY ABSOLUTELY EVERY GROUP.
IT'S NO GROUP THAT, THAT HOLDS A MONOPOLY ON BEING, BEING GOOD ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, NOW I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
TIME WILL TELL WHAT, WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR NOT.
WELL, AND I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT IF WE NEED TO IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE.
IT'S NOT TII FOLLOW THE CONVERSATION.
I'M WILLING TO TRY ONE, TWO, AND FOUR AND 11, 8, 3 FOR NOW AND KIND OF SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
I USED TO SKI OUT THERE WHEN I WAS 10 YEARS OLD ON THE WEEKENDS AND BACK THEN, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
IT WAS DANGEROUS ON THE WEEKEND.
SO MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, DO WE HAVE SOME, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE? YES, SIR.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL HERE ABOUT THE SAFETY AND EVERYTHING ON THE LAKE.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THE LAKE HAS ROAD SO MUCH AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LAKE, BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS EN ENFORCEMENT.
AND WE'RE ALL HERE MAKING DECISIONS, BUT WHEN'S IT GONNA GET ENFORCED SOON AS WE, I MEAN, PASS THIS TONIGHT, IF IT PASSES, IS THERE GONNA BE PEOPLE ON THE LAKE TO POLICE IT? THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE A CONVERSATION WITH CHESTERFIELD COUNTY WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS, I PROMISE YOU, BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT'S WHAT WE LACK MOST OF ALL.
AND, AND THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO GET THAT.
THIS, THIS RESOLUTION ALLOWS ME TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO THE BOARD OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.
THEN UPON THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
AND I'M NOT SO SURE DOWN THE ROAD THAT A DENWOODY BOAT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ON THE LAKE.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT A DENWOODY BOAT'S GOING TO COST TAXPAYER MONEY WHEN THAT BOAT'S PUT ON THE LAKE TOO.
COME, COME UP HERE 'CAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SPOKE.
I LIVE IN CHESTERFIELD FOR OVER 17 YEARS.
AND I JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO HOPEWELL.
I STILL FISH THE LAKE EVERY WEEK.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO EX EXCUSE MY ATTIRE.
UM, BUT THE THING THAT I, I THINK IS DEFINITELY WE BOTH SIDES COULD AGREE ON IS THAT WITH THE LOCATION OF THREE AND FOUR, LIKE MR. SPAIN WAS SPEAKING ON, IF, IF TWO BUOYS ARE THERE ARE PRESENT, THAT'S THE BEGINNING AND THE END.
SO THERE ARE NO BOAT DOCKS OR PEOPLE SWIMMING, SWIM AREAS, WHATEVER PEOPLE WANT TO CALL IT, BETWEEN THE ISLAND AND THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT GRAPHIC.
THERE'S PEOPLE, THE TIP OF THAT, THE SKINNY TIP OF THAT ISLAND IS A POPULAR FISHING SPOT.
AND I HAVE, I RUN A BOAT FROM 2001 THE YEAR THAT I WAS BORN.
THEY HAVE FISHED THERE SO SCREAMING AROUND THAT CREEK.
WHEN YOU COME AROUND THAT ISLAND COMING FROM DOWN THE LAKE, YOU, IT'S A BLIND CORNER.
AND EVERYBODY'S TOUCHED ON THE LAKE HAS AN EXTREME
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SAFETY RECORD UNTIL LAST YEAR.IF WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE, WE ALL AGREE THAT THE SKINNY PART OF THE CREEK IS DANGEROUS.
WE ALL AGREE THAT THE BACK SIDE OF THE ISLAND CAN BE DANGEROUS WHEN YOU, IF YOU, PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT IS THREE MINUTES BETWEEN THE WAKE ZONE TO THE WAKE ZONE.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO MOVE LOCATION TWO FROM LOCATION ONE TO THE END OF THE SKINNY PART, AND THEN YOU WERE TO PUT LOCATION THREE, KEEP THAT AND KEEP NUMBER FOUR, THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY SAFE AND YOU COULD TAKE OFF OUT OF, IN BETWEEN THE ISLAND AND THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
AND IT HAS BEEN DONE LIKE THAT FOR YEARS PRIOR TO MY BIRTH.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE GROWTH HAS BEEN AROUND, BUT LIKE I SAID, IN BASS TOURNAMENTS, WHEN YOU COME AROUND THAT ISLAND, IT'S A BLIND CORNER AND PEOPLE FISH OUT ALMOST IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CREEK AND HAVE NEVER BEEN HIT.
SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT.
MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN MAYBE MOVING 3, 4, 1, WE NEED TO HAVE, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE NO WEIGHT BUOYS, THEY NEED TO BE PLACED IN THE MOST DANGEROUS LOCATIONS OF THIS CREEK.
AND WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT IT'S NOT DANGEROUS 'CAUSE NO ONE HAS EVER DIED THERE.
BUT IF HEARSAY SAYS THAT IT IS DANGEROUS, WE NEED TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S GONNA MAKE BOTH SIDES HAPPY.
NUMBER TWO IS TOO FAR OUT IN THE CREEK.
IT EXTENDS THE NO WAKE ZONE TOO FAR.
IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE SKINNY PART OF THE CREEK.
THAT'S THE MOST DANGEROUS PART.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
BECAUSE IT'LL OPEN UP THAT, THAT WIDE PORTION BETWEEN THE ISLAND AND THE LEFT HAND SIDE ON THAT GRAPHIC, IT WILL OPEN UP THAT PORTION AND SHORTEN THE WAKE ZONE BY AT LEAST ONE MINUTE.
BRING WE COULD SEE THIS ONE TO THIS, SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT.
AND THERE'LL BE TWO SEPARATE WAKE ZONES IN THE MOST DANGEROUS PARTS.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T EVER RESULTED IN AN ACCIDENT, EVER.
BUT NOW IT'S GOING BACK TO THE WATER AUTHORITY, SITTING DOWN, HAVING A MEETING, PUTTING IT BACK UP ON THE GRAPHICS, GETTING THE LATIN LAWNS TO BE ABLE TO BRING NUMBER TWO DOWN WHEREVER NU IT WOULD BE QUOTE UNQUOTE FEASIBLE FOR IT TO GO.
UM, WHERE DOES DWR STAND WITH THIS? HAVE THEY BEEN INVOLVED IN PLACEMENT? HOPE.
SO THE, THE QUESTION FOR PEOPLE AT HOME 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU, UH, JASON, BUT IT'S, IT'S WHERE IS DWR IN THIS? AND SO WHEN THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST CONTACTS AND DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES INDICATED TO US THAT THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE PLACEMENT, THEY GET INVOLVED WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA OFFER ANY SPECIAL, UH, EXPERTISE ON THAT.
I, I AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I APPRECIATE, UM, GRANT'S COMMENTS HERE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
I MEAN, AND WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO, BUT WE, WE, WE HAVE ADVERTISED FOR THE HEARING BASED ON THE LATIN LONGS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL FOUR LOCATIONS.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN, IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE, WE CAN DO THAT.
IF YOU, IF YOU DO WANNA MOVE FORWARD TO WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU WOULD KEEP OBVIOUSLY LOCATION ONE, TWO, AND FOUR.
BUT WHEREAS NUMBER THREE ON YOUR RESOLUTION, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD REMOVE THAT THIRD LOCATION AND, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, YOU WOULD ALSO REMOVE THAT THIRD LOCATION.
UM, AND YOU COULD TAKE ACTION TONIGHT IF YOU WANTED TO.
IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A DIFFERENT OPTION, YOU CAN DO THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE OTHER LATIN LONGS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, AND I'M SURE THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO POSTPONE, MAKE A DECISION AND MAKING THAT FINAL DECISION OF LOCATION WHERE EXACTLY WOULD BE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE FOR THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S WHAT YOUR PLEASURE WOULD BE.
I I THINK ONE, TWO, AND FOUR AND GIVE IT SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, WHATEVER, SIX MONTHS IS GOING TO PUT US IN ONE.
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE MANY BOATS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF IS REALLY GONNA TELL THE TAIL, BUT IF THEY ONLY GOT ONE BOAT ON THE LAKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ENFORCEMENT'S GOING TO GET DONE EITHER.
YOU KNOW? UM, AND CERTAINLY WITHOUT RIDING A FEW TICKETS,
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YOU'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM.I MEAN, IF YOU SIT THERE ONE AFTERNOON AND YOU WRITE 15 TICKETS, THAT'LL MAKE A BIG, SOME PEOPLE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT.
MR. JOHN, I, THE GENTLEMAN, YOUNG GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE.
IF YOU DID MAKE A GOOD POINT, BUT WE, FOR THESE LATIN LAWNS AND I AGREE TO TAKE, I AGREE TO TAKE ACT THREE, BUT LOOK AT MAYBE MOVING TWO IN THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A PRETTY WIDE POINT THAT YOU, I COULD MOVE IT TO SO PEOPLE COULD REDUCE THEIR TRAVEL TIME, UH, AND NOT REALLY CAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS I THINK.
BUT LET'S KIND OF SEE WHAT ONE, TWO, AND FOUR LOOK LIKE AND THEN MAYBE ADJUST TWO A LITTLE BIT LATER TO, TO GIVE A, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE BETTER TIME.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS MR. CHAIRMAN THEN WE AGAIN, WE WOULD NEED A, A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION WITH THE THIRD, WHEREAS ELIMINATION OF THE NORTH ENDING IN 2 78 IN THE WEST ENDING IN 5 56, WHICH IS THE THIRD LOCATION PROPOSED AND THAT SAME THING WOULD FOLLOW IN THE, THE B THREE, UH, BE IT FURTHER, UH, THEREFORE RESOLVED IN REFERENCES TO FOUR BUOYS WOULD ALSO BE CHANGED TO THREE TO THREE.
IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE, CAN I SO MOVE THAT? YOU CAN.
IS THERE ANY MORE THAT I NEED TO ADD OTHER THAN WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE YEAH.
WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED.
NUMBER THREE AND AGAIN, WHAT REMOVED? I MAKE THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL MS. EBRA.
ALL VOTING? AYE AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST, I'LL JUST SAY PROCESS.
WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE WILL GET THIS OUT TO THE BOARD OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES AS SOON AS WE CAN AND I'LL ALSO MAKE A NOTE THAT WE REVISIT THIS, UM, ANNUALLY AT THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, YEAR FROM NOW, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE MAY GIVE TO YOU ALL.
[13.A. Appointments]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13 AND THAT IS, UH, OLD AND NEW BUSINESS.WE HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS THIS EVENING.
UH, YES MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED TO HAVE A NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD.
OKAY? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT, UM, RA VALENTINE, UH, TO UM, APPOINTMENT TO THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, UM, FOR EXPIRATION DATE.
AND LASTLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A, A NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE DIMITY AIRPORT AND INDUSTRIAL AUTHORITY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I DID HAVE A RESIGNATION ON, ON THAT AUTHORITY.
UH, MR. PIER HAS BECOME A COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY AND HE AND HE FELT LIKE HE NEEDED TO SPEND HIS TIME AT THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT WILLIAM DUDLEY ALLEN II FOR A TERM EXTENDING ONE THIRTY ONE TWENTY TWENTY FOUR.
NO OTHER APPOINTMENTS AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU.
[14. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
ITEM IS CITIZEN'S COMMENT AND WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE PERIOD FOR THAT.I'LL OPEN UP CITIZEN'S COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE MAUREEN JONES.
ALL RIGHT, BULLET POINT NUMBER ONE.
PERMITTING FAVORED CITIZENS TO CONVERSE FREELY WITH BOARD MEMBERS FROM THE GALLERY TO SPEAK OVER THEIR ALLOTTED TIME YET TAMPING DOWN ON NORTH END WITTY SPEAKERS BY GATHERING THEM DOWN, SPEAKING OVER THEM, OR HAVING THEM FORCIBLY REMOVED BY POLICE 0.2 CONTORTING PLANNING CODE IN A WAY NEVER DONE IN VIRGINIA TO GIVE AN ASSOCIATE OF
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THE SOUTHERN BLOCK SUPERVISORS A LUCRATIVE PERPETUAL INCOME AT THE EXPENSE OF A FEW THOUSAND NORTH AND WITTY CITIZENS.COERCING A NORTH D WITTY LANDOWNER INTO POTENTIAL SALE TO THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT SHE PUBLICLY REFUSED TO SELL TO.
PUNISHING THE SAME LANDOWNER BY AN IMPOSING A SCANT 10 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN HER AND HUNDREDS OF APARTMENT UNITS DENYING A CITIZEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE HER LAND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS BY MEANS OF A SOLAR FARM.
SHREWDLY SAYING NO WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY NO CITING NOISE FROM PANELS, DENSITY, POTENTIAL DANGERS AND HAZARDS, MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND CONSTRUCTION INCONVENIENCES IF WE TOSS IN TRANS TRANSIENCY, YOU WOULD THINK WE WERE SPEAKING OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ONLY THE FOREST FIELDS, BACK ROADS AND SPARSELY POPULATED COUNTRYSIDE GET UP TO 25 TIMES MORE BUFFER THAN MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE NORTHERN APARTMENT PROJECT.
A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT DEMONSTRATED A NO LESS THAN TWO YEARS TIME, EXCUSE ME, NO LESS THAN TWO TIMES IN ONE YEAR.
THAT YES MEAN MEANS NO AND NO MEANS YES.
FIRST BY SCRATCHING A VOTE AGAINST APARTMENTS, THEN DISCUSSING AMONGST THEMSELVES FOR 15 MINUTES AND CHANGING THE VOTE FOR APARTMENTS AT THE BORDER.
SUPERVISORS MEETING REGARDING SOLAR FARMS. MR. PROSY DECLARED TO THE BOARD THAT EVEN THE, EVEN THOUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED IN FAVOR OF SOLAR FARMS, THAT THEY DIDN'T REALLY MEAN THAT BECAUSE OF X, Y, AND Z NONSENSICAL COMMENTS THAT SOLAR FARMS BELONG ON TOP OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN NORTH GEN.
WITTY THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD LOOK INTO NUCLEAR ENERGY.
AND AS A SIDE NOTE, WHEN THE COUNTY GETS ITS FIRST NUCLEAR, UH, REACTOR, UNDOUBTEDLY THE WASTE WILL BE TRANSPORTED TO NORTH DENWITTY FOR BURIAL.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MRS. EBRA BONNER COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE BOARD GO UNACKNOWLEDGED.
UNLESS THEY CAN GIVE YOU A PUBLIC TONGUE LASHING WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU WILL BE SPARED THAT.
HOWEVER, IF WELL WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE BIAS LIES.
REAL EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND DATA FROM CITIZENS IS SQUELCHED IN FAVOR OF THE PREFERRED TEAM, EVEN IF CLEARLY FALSIFIED BY THE LATER CASE IN POINT TEAM APARTMENT PROJECTS CLAIMED ONLY 12 LARGE TRUCKS UTILIZE COX ROAD ON AN AVERAGE BUSINESS DAY.
IN ACTUALITY 23 TO 28 TRUCKS AN HOUR DRIVE COX ROAD IN EIGHT HOURS THAT EQUALS 184 TO 224 LARGE TRUCKS IN A BUSINESS DAY.
I WISH PEOPLE CARED AS MUCH ABOUT OUR ROAD AS THEY DID THESE WATERWAYS AND ALL THESE POINTS WERE TO SAY, OR THE ANSWERS TO WHY DEN WITTY WILL NEVER BE A VIBRANT, HEALTHY NUMBER ONE CHOICE COMMUNITY AND THE DEMISE HAPPENED WITHIN.
YOUR DISDAIN, DISRESPECT AND DISREGARD FOR NORTH DENWITTY HAS BEEN ON REPEAT FULL DISPLAY.
YOU PROTECT THE INTEREST AND LIFESTYLE OF THE FEW LIVING IN CERTAIN AREAS WHILE DISMISSING THE MANY IN OUR DISTRICT.
NO ONE EXPECTS YOU TO BE PERFECT.
NO ONE EXPECTED ANY OF YOU TO RECUSE FROM THE COX ROAD APARTMENT.
DENWOODY IS A SMALL COMMUNITY.
THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM IS A DECEPTION.
A LIE IS DELIBERATELY HIDING YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER.
ANY OF YOU WHO KNOWS MR. GAMMON ON ANY PERSONAL LEVEL IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN WHAT IS YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
YOU COULD SIMPLY HAVE SAID THAT UPFRONT LIKE THIS.
IT WOULD'VE SOUNDED IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I GREW UP WITH BRIAN.
HE'S A BROTHER IN CHRIST AND WE GO TO CHURCH TOGETHER.
YOUR RELATIONSHIP, YOUR CONNECTION, YOUR HISTORY WITH BRYANT GAMMON DISCLOSE IT OR DECEIVE YOU HID IT.
WHY? WHY YOUR OWN DECEPTION CREATED THIS ETHICAL CONUNDRUM.
ETHICS, INTEGRITY, FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY.
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CANNOT HANG THAT BY A SINGLE THREAD.THESE ARE THE ACTUAL CORNERSTONES OF PUBLIC OFFICE DEVOTION TO THESE CANNOT WAVER AND CANNOT HAVE A SHADOW.
NOW WE'RE ONE YEAR LATER, MAYBE YOUR PERSPECTIVE HAS SHIFTED A LITTLE.
IT COULD SOUND LIKE THIS IN HINDSIGHT, I COULD HAVE DISCLOSED THIS RELATIONSHIP, THIS CONNECTION, THIS HISTORY.
I BELIEVE I STILL WOULD'VE BEEN FAIR ABOUT IT.
MY VOTE WAS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
IT WAS AN ERROR ON MY PART NOT TO DISCLOSE THAT I REGRET THAT I DIDN'T.
IF I COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN, I WOULD DISCLOSE IT.
I OWED THAT TO THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE AND I'LL USE MY LAST 20 SECONDS TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO RESPOND.
THIS IS WHY WE DON'T TRUST YOU.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
[15. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
NEXT IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.UM, LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE APPOINTMENTS I DO HAVE TWO RESIGNATIONS.
IF I KNOW WE'VE PROBABLY HAD SOME OTHER RESIGNATIONS, I THINK WE NEED HAVE THE STAFF PUT UP SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION OR, OR LETTER OF THANKS.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT MR. DAVIS? NO.
YOU GOOD MS. BONNER? UM, NO, THE ONLY THING I I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT UM, UM, WE DO HAVE CI CITIZEN COMMENTS AND UM, WE DO UH, APPRECIATE ANYONE THAT HAS A COMMENT AND UM, AND ALSO THAT WE DO ALL LISTEN TO ALL COMMENTS WHEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
ALRIGHT, AND I HAVE NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH ONE, UH, ITEM AND THAT'S ADJOURNMENT.
VOTE FOR ADJOURNMENT MR. CHAIRMAN.
ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER.
MR. LEE AYE DR. MOORE AYE ALL VOTING AYE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.