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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 17TH, 2023, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR DENWOODY COUNTY.[1. ROLL CALL ]
WE HAVE ROLL CALL MS. EBRA BONNER.WILL YOU STAND WITH ME FOR THE INVOCATION, THE LORD'S PRAYER? AND THEN WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD AND GIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US.
LEAD US NOT TO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL VINE, US THE KINGDOM, THE POWER ON THE DOOR FOR EVERY AMEN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNTO GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA ]
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON? YES SIR.MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED TO, UM, ADD UNDER 13.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD 13 B SUMMER WORK-BASED LEARNING PROGRAM PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, AMENDED AGENDA.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA ]
AYE.YOU HAVE YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, UH, PRESENTED THAT YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT.
YOU'VE GOT SUMMARY AND CLAIMS VRA 2019 C, TAX EXEMPT BOND REQUISITION NUMBER 47.
UM, YOU'VE GOT THE COUNTY, UM, ATTORNEY'S CONTRACT AS WELL AS A SET OF MINUTES.
UM, ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE ITEMS? DETERMINE IF THERE ARE NONE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
[6.A. Virginia Department Of Transportation ]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO REPORTS.AND THE FIRST ONE THERE IS, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
HOPE EVERYBODY IS DOING WELL THIS AFTERNOON.
I HAVE RECEIVED WORD THAT THE BRANCHES ROAD PROJECT IS DONE, SO I'LL BE GOING FOR A RIDE WHEN I LEAVE HERE.
HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING LOOKS OKAY AND WE'LL BE MOVING OFF OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, TODAY WE ISSUED A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR OUR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MOWING LAST WEEK.
IT'S A 10 DAY NOTICE TO PROCEED.
SO SOMETIME THIS WEEK, EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK, UH, SHOULD SEE THOSE MOWERS OUT THERE.
UH, GETTING EVERYTHING CUT AROUND THE COUNTY.
UM, THIS WILL BE A FULL WIDTH MOW, IT'LL BE A LAST FOR THE SEASON.
SO WHAT THE CONTRACT MOWERS DON'T DO ON THE PRIMARY STATE FORCES WILL COME BACK BEHIND AND MOW THE FULL WIDTH, INCLUDING THE MEDIANS.
UM, WE'LL BE DOING SOME PATCHING AT 2 26 AND FOUR 60 SOON IN THAT LANE COMING DOWN 2 4 60 ON 2 26.
UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S CONCRETE UNDER THAT ROAD AND THAT'S A, UH, HAVING A DEAMINATION ISSUE WITH THAT ASPHALT STICKING TO THAT CONCRETE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S PUSHING SO BAD.
UM, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF TACK APPLIED ON THAT CONCRETE WHEN THEY PATCH IT THIS TIME.
SO SHOULD NOT, SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME THING OCCUR AGAIN.
THE ROUTE 7 0 2 LENNY ROAD BRIDGE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
UM, JUST WAITING ON ASPHALT CONTRACTOR TO GET IN THERE AND PAVE THAT BRIDGE.
THAT ROAD WILL BE REOPENED SHORTLY AS WELL.
UM, I AM SURE THAT, UH, THERE ARE EFFORTS ON FOUR 60 AT BUTTER WOOD.
WERE SEEN LAST WEEK WITH THE LANE CLOSURE THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE WEEK DOING THAT PRELIMINARY WORK FOR THE PAVEMENT REPAIR PROJECT.
UM, THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED LAST WEEK WITH SOME SLOPE REPAIR, SOME DRAIN REPAIR, AS WELL AS UNDER DRAIN INSTALLATION ON THE SHOULDER THERE TO HELP THAT WATER.
THAT'S CAUSING OUR PAVEMENT ISSUE THERE TO, UM, GET OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT AND KEEP THOSE CONCRETE SLABS FROM DEFLECTING.
UM, ASPHALT CONTRACTORS SHOULD BE MOVING IN SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO, UH, PERFORM THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT REPAIRS THERE.
AND THEN THAT ONE WILL BE BE WRAP.
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MATERIAL FOR OUR 6 22 PIPE REPLACEMENT, SO GONNA BEGIN SCHEDULING THAT.UM, WE'LL PROBABLY CLOSE THAT ROAD BALTIMORE ROAD FOR ABOUT A WEEK OR SO, UM, HOPEFULLY LATER ON THIS MONTH AND KNOCKED THAT CULVERT PROJECT OUT AND GOT AN UPDATE ON THE HALIFAX ROAD THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION.
THAT PRO THE STUDY IS UNDERWAY.
I DO HAVE TO GET WITH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO GET SOME CONCURRENCE BECAUSE WHEN, IF THE THREE TRUCK RESTRICTION IS IMPLEMENTED, THE SIGNAGE WILL BEGIN ALL THE WAY BACK INTO THE CITY.
SO I'LL BEGIN WORKING WITH THAT.
UH, GET IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY.
I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY COMPLICATIONS WITH GETTING THAT CONCURRENCE FROM THE CITY.
WHAT CAN I DO FOR THE BOARD THIS AFTERNOON? OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, MR. FRENCH, WE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, 2 26, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND ALSO AT THE ROCK, AT THE, UH, TIN OR UH, MEETING OR SO BEFORE.
WHAT WAS THE, DID YOU INCREASE THE, UH, YIELD, I MEAN THE YELLOW LIGHT, ANY ON THOSE LIGHTS OR WHAT DID, WHAT WAS THE YES SIR.
I KNOW THAT AT THE 2 26 AND FOUR 60 THEY DID INCREASE, UM, THE INTERVAL FOR THE YELLOW TIMING.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR THE PHASE IF THE, FOR THE TRUCKS COMING FROM THE QUARRY.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE TIME WISE IF THEY ADDED TO IT? BECAUSE IT'S STILL, STILL KIND OF IFFY WHEN YOU'RE COMING THROUGH THERE AND IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU QUITE TIME TO GET THROUGH IT IF IT TURNS YELLOW BY THE TIME YOU HAVE TO HIT YOUR BRAKES.
DO YOU UNDERSTOOD, DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? I'M NOT CERTAIN OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I BELIEVE IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE SECONDS THEY EXTENDED THAT YELLOW INTERVAL.
IF YOU COULD CHECK ON MAYBE INCREASING A COUPLE MORE SECONDS.
'CAUSE IT IS, IT IS HARD TO STOP AT THAT WITH A FULL LOAD AT BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAD, MR. STILL JUST A, I TOLD YOU SO.
UM, IF YOU WAIT TILL NOVEMBER TO CLOSE BALTIMORE ROAD, MR. MOODY AND I ARE GONNA HEAR IT FROM THE DEER HUNTERS.
SO TRY TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER.
THEY HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER AS WELL.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE PUT THE NEW CULVERTS IN AND UH, THE WATER GOES IN AND IT SWAMP THE DUCK ONS, I'M NOT GONNA BE HAPPY EITHER.
ESPECIALLY AROUND ELECTION DAY TOO.
YOU DON'T WANT, THAT'S THE MAIN ROUTE FOR PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THERE.
I WILL, I WILL CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THE LIGHT THERE IS TO NOT LETTING ENOUGH CARS TO GO AT THE TIME YOU GET STARTED.
THAT'S WHAT COMPLAINTS THAT I GET.
AT FOUR 60 ROUTE 1 4 60 IN ROUTE ONE FOR SPECIFIC, A SPECIFIC MOVEMENT.
IS IT RIGHT? IS IT OH, ONE NUMBER ONE TO COME FOUR 60 ON NUMBER ONE.
GOING, YOU KNOW, SOUTH TO NORTH OR WHATEVER.
IT'S HARD TO, THERE'S ONLY LIKE THREE OR FOUR CARS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT BEFORE IT CHANGES.
THE BIGGEST THING FOR IS THAT I SEE IS, IS THE LEFT TURN, IF YOU'RE ON NUMBER ONE COMING SOUTH TO NORTH MM-HMM
UH, 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH TO SOUTH, YOU'VE GOT THE TURN LANE THAT'LL TAKE YOU, YOU CAN GO MM-HMM
SO THAT'S WHERE I, I SEE IT MORE.
YOU MIGHT GET A COUPLE OF EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU'LL GET A COUPLE OF BACKUP TRUCKS COMING OUT OF ALDI, UM OKAY.
THAT ARE TAKING A LEFT TO GO OUT TO THE INTERSTATE MM-HMM
UM, BUT IT, THAT SIGNAL IS, THAT ONE'S PRETTY SHORT.
SO, AND HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT THERE TOO.
THAT WAS TOP OF THE MIND THAT, UH, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF, IF THERE IS GONNA BE A SIGNAL ANALYSIS DONE AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, LIKELY, LIKELY THERE WILL BE ONE.
WELL I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HALIFAX THIS TODAY.
NOW I DON'T, I, THE ONLY THING I HAVE FOR ME IS JUST GETTING USED TO THE BLINKING YELLOWS NOW THAT WE HAVE AT TYNDALL AND AT, UM, AT, UH, 2 26.
THAT DOES SEEM TO BE SOME PEOPLE GETTING A LITTLE BIT AN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE COMING OUT IN FRONT OF 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THIS IS 55.
IF YOU'RE COMING IN FRONT OF ELITE AND YOU'RE COMING, GOING WEST, IT'S 55 MILES AN HOUR COMING THROUGH THERE.
AND, UM, SO YOU, IT'S A LITTLE FOR FOLKS TAKING A LITTLE, SOME CHANCES WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE PAST.
[6.B. The Improvement Association: Dinwiddie Head Start ]
ALRIGHT, ITEM B UNDER REPORTS.WE'VE GOT THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION THEN
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WITH THE HEAD START AND WE HAVE MS THAT'S RIGHT.HOW ARE YOU DOING MR. POWELL? I'M DOING FINE.
GOOD TO SEE MR. CHAIRMAN AND THIS COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, GOOD TO BE HERE AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON, UH, TO ELABORATE ON OUR CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UH, REPRESENTATIVE HERE, UM, TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNTER FOR BEING A SMALL BEST COUNTER ACHIEVEMENT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
UM, JUST WANT TO REAPPEAR TO YOU REGARDING, UH, THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION HEAD START PROGRAM REQUEST.
UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT SINCE 1990 THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN, THEY IMPLEMENT THE HEAD START PROGRAM, UH, FOR SUSSEX AREA GREENS EMPLOYEE, BRUNSWICK, UH, COUNTY, AND LATER ON EXPANDED TO DENWITTY.
UH, WE HAVE HAD A RECORD SUCCESS AND HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED ONE OF THE EFFECTIVE PROGRAM IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
AND I'M PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT THE CHILDREN, THE FAMILY HAVE MADE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, HERE WE HAVE SOME, WITH SOME PARENTS IN THE BACK AND SOME AMOUNT OF STAFF HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHILDREN AS YOU ARE IN DENWOOD COUNTY IN 2021, UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW, DELEGATE TYLER REPRESENTED THIS, THIS AREA.
AND HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR YEARS AND BEEN SEEING CLOSE UP THE IMPACT OF HEAD START, SHE CARRIED THE BILL TO EXPAND VPI SERVICES, UH, FOR ALL PRESCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
AND THE REASON BEING BECAUSE THERE REALIZED THAT MANY CHILDREN DIDN'T, COULD NOT, DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE HEAD START PROGRAM AND THE SERVICE IT PROVIDES.
HEADSTYLE IS A PROGRAM THAT PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES FOR SECURITY OF THE BILL.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REALIZE IS VPS A DIFFERENT HEAD START.
HEAD START, UH, OFFER EDUCATION, HEALTH, NUTRITION, VISION, AND WORK WITH THE TOTAL FAMILY.
IT'S, IT'S THE LARGEST EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND, UH, IT'S THE FIRST COMPREHENSIVE EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH THE CHILD TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE READY FOR KINDERGARTEN.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH THE FAMILIES TO ENSURE THEY GET EMPLOYMENT, WORKING WITH THE FAMILY TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL, GET A SKILL TO JOIN THE WORKFORCE, AND ALL THE OTHER SERVICES THAT THE HEAD START PROGRAM MANDATES THROUGH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE, AND I'M, I BELIEVE THAT EVERY CHILD, AND I HOPE YOU AGREE, EVERY CHILD NEED EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.
UH, I KNOW YOU WANT THE SAME THING FOR YOUR CHILDREN AS I WANT FOR MINE.
AND THAT'S WHY MY P YOU TODAY, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR HELP.
AND THEY, THE PARENTS AND DEALING WITH IT NEED YOUR HELP.
YOU KNOW, MANY OF US WILL INVEST OUR MONEY IN THE STOCK MARKET, BUT WHEN WE INVEST OUR MONEY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT MIGHT BE.
BUT WE KNOW WHEN WE INVEST IN CHILDREN AT RISK, CHILDREN, WE KNOW WE GET A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.
IT'S NOT LIKE THROWING MONEY OUT THE WINDOW OR BUYING A CAR, OR WE ARE INVESTED IN CHILDREN.
AND EVERY PARENT, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 40 YEARS, I'VE NEVER HAD A PARENT SAY, I DON'T WANT MY CHILD TO SUCCEED.
THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO SUCCEED.
THEY WANT EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SUCCEED.
AND WE, I'M PROUD OF THE STAFF WHO LABOR, UH, WORK WITH FAMILIES, UH, TO MOVE THEM FORWARD.
AND OUR BOARD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE APPEAR BEFORE YOU, 'CAUSE WE NEEDED SOME SUPPORT TO TRANSFER THE, THE KIDS AND DIDN'T WHERE THE, AS THE OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE DONE AND FOR FISCAL STRENGTHS OR WHATEVER, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, RALLIED OUT THEIR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
THEY COULD NO LONGER PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE HAD TO FIND A WAY TO GET THOSE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.
MENDO PARENTS GO TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING, GET BACK LATE IN THE AFTERNOONS.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, OUR BOARD AND OUR POLICY COUNCIL AND STAFF FEEL LIKE IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO EXHAUST EVERY AVENUE POSSIBLE TO GET THOSE CHILDREN TO A CONDUCIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.
AT THAT TIME, THE SUPERINTENDENTS WERE HERE AND AFTER MUCH
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DISCUSSION, UH, AND SHE'S A GOOD PERSON TO WORK WITH, UH, INDICATED THAT SHE WOULD EXPLORE AVENUES, HOW WE CAN WORK OUT THE TRANSPORTATION.THE SCHOOL SYSTEM VENTURED TO LOOK AMONG THEMSELVES, THEIR STAFF TO SEE IF THEY HAD A DRIVER, IF WE COULD GET THE BUS.
WELL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I APPEAL TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I EXPLAIN TO THEM WHY WE NEED EVERY CHILD IN D WITH IT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN WHY THEY NEED ACCESS TO HEAD START SERVICES.
IT WAS LONG DISCUSSION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY GRANTED THAT REQUEST.
THEY APPROVE A $123,000 TO PURCHASE THAT BUS FOR DENVER.
THE BUS HAD BEEN GETTING LETTER PUT ON IT.
SO THEY BELIEVE IN THE CHILDREN AND WHAT THE LEADERSHIP HERE AS WELL, THEY INVESTED $123,000 TO BUY THAT BUS.
WE HAVE THE BUS, BUT THE ISSUE IS WE DON'T HAVE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET TO PURCHASE A DRIVER UNLESS I LAY UP, TEACH OFF.
SO WE SHORT IN TERMS OF GETTING A DRIVER WHERE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SAID THEY WERE LOOKING AMONG THEMSELVES, THEIR STAFFING TO TRY TO FIND A DRIVER.
WE SAID THEY DID NOT HAVE ANYONE.
WELL, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO FIND A, A DRIVER WHO JUST RETIRED FROM DENVER TRANSPORTATION, UH, SCHOOL DIVISION, WHO WAS A BUS DRIVER WHO HAVE THE C THEIR LICENSE AND QUALIFIED WHO SAID, I WILL TRANSPORT THOSE CHILDREN.
SO WE HAVE FOUND, LOCATED A DRIVER.
I CALLED JEFF AT THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND THEY INDICATED THAT THE RATE THAT THEY PAY THEIR DRIVER WITH SOME EXPERIENCE, EXCUSE ME, IS $18 AND NINE 9 CENTS.
SO WE PROPOSED TO HIRE THAT DRIVER, OR I GAVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM OP OPPORTUNITY.
THEY CAN HIRE 'EM ON THEIR PAYROLL.
UH, BUT ANY RATE, AT $18 AND 9 CENTS PER HOUR, WE'RE GONNA AVERAGE THE FOUR HOURS A DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT COMES TO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, FROM NOW TO THE END OF THE YEARS ON A $12,763, $12,763.
WELL, WE HAVE 58 CHILDREN ENROLLED.
UH, SOME KIDS, SOME PARENTS DROPPED BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT, DID NOT HAVE, UH, ALLOWABLE SOURCE OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE NEED, WE HAVE FOUR TO THREE CHILDREN THERE WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
THE BUS, UH, THAT WE PURCHASE WILL ACCOMMODATE 32 CHILDREN.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOOD 10 CHILDREN.
SO OTHER PARENTS, SOME MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT.
WE ARE HERE THE DAY BEFORE BECAUSE WE NEED $12,763.
NOW, IIII UNDERSTAND THE BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, I'M A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.
I UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGET WORK.
I UNDERSTAND THE RESERVE, I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
BUT I, I GUESS WE MIGHT AGREE.
IIII DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TAX PAYER WILL HAVE A PROBLEM OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I THINK THEY'D BE DELIGHTED TO KNOW THAT YOU INVESTED $12,000 TO EDUCATE 43 CHILDREN AT RISK CHILDREN AND WORK WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND MOVE THEM FORWARD.
UM, SO TODAY WE APPEARING FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO SUPPORT THE FOUR TO THREE CHILDREN.
THAT EQUATES TO, IF YOU TAKE FOUR TO THREE CHILDREN AND $12,760, THAT EQUATES TO $296 PER CHILD.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I KNOW ANY CHILD WORTH MORE THAN $296.
UH, WHEN WE GO TO A CONFERENCE, ONE ROOM CALLS 'EM FOUR OR $500, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $296 PER CHILD.
UM, WHETHER CONSEQUENCE, IF WE DON'T, CAN'T TRANSPORT 'EM.
PARENTS WOULD KEEP THE KIDS AT HOME.
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THEY'D PROBABLY COME TO SCHOOL BEHIND OTHER KIDS.THEY'D IN DEVELOP AN INFERIOR OUTTA COMPLEX THINKING THE OTHER KIDS ARE SMARTER THAN THEY, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.
IT JUST, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY COME TO KINDERGARTEN, THEY WILL BE ON THE SAME FOOTING IN OF THE CHILD.
AND WE ARE THE PARENTS INDEN WITH AT YOUR MERCY, BECAUSE YOU CONTROL THE PURSE STRING.
YOU SET THE PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I HAVE SOME PARENTS HERE IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK TO SAY ANYTHING.
I KNOW THEY, THEY CAME, UH, IF THEY WANT, SAY THEY COME THIS TIME.
UH, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, PARENTS, A LOT OF TIMES CITIZENS GET, GET FRIGHTENED WHEN THEY COME FOR ELECTED FISHER, BUT THEY WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE, YOU DID.
UH, BUT IF THEIR ATTORNEY WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING, NOT OF HEARING MR. TYLER.
WE, WE HAVE A CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND LET HER, I JUST OKAY.
THEY COULD, THEY CAN, THEY COULD SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO DURING THAT PERIOD TOO, IF THEY WISH TO.
IF THEY WANT YOU, YOU COME ON.
I'M JUST SAYING WE DO HAVE A CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD THAT WE CAN TALK THROUGH.
I HAVE A SET OF TWINS IN THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR SMALL KIDS IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DAYCARES.
AS YOU KNOW, DAYCARES ARE LIMITED HERE.
SO THE HEAD START PROGRAM REALLY DOES HELP.
UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO RIDE THE BUS.
FOR ME, I WORK IN RICHMOND, SO THAT GREATLY INCONVENIENCED ME ON MY JOB.
UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE BUS WAS STOPPING RIGHT AT THE BUS STOP TO LET THE OTHER KIDS GO TO SCHOOL, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET ON A BUS.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE BUDGET WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE A BUS DRIVER.
SO, I GUESS THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, HI, MY NAME IS STACY HILL.
UM, MY DAUGHTER, SHE GOES TO HEAD START.
UM, THE ONLY THING IS, IS THE TRANSPORTATION.
BECAUSE I HAVE TO RUSH TO BE TO WORK AT EIGHT 30, TRY TO GET HER TO SCHOOL AND TRY TO PICK HER UP AND LEAVE BETWEEN MY JOB.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE JOB, DON'T CARE IF YOU GOT A CHILD OR NOT, BECAUSE THEY CAN FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO REPLACE ME.
AND WHEN MY SON WAS IN HEAD START, THEY HAD TRANSPORTATION.
NOW IT'S LIKE, WHERE'S THE TRANSPORTATION AT? THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ORDER.
IT'S, I FEEL LIKE NOTHING IS IN DCC AND IN ORDER, LIKE EVERYTHING IS LIKE, I GOTTA RUSH, TAKE HER TO SCHOOL, SEND THE TEACHER.
UM, IF SHE'S COMING TODAY, UH, YEAH, I GOT THREE OUT THE KIDS, THEY GOTTA GET ON THE BUS.
NOW WITH MY DAUGHTER, I HAVE TO TAKE HER TO SCHOOL AND PICK HER UP THEN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MY DAUGHTER, THAT'S GAS.
SO THERE'S NOT LIKE, OH, BUT SINCE YOU HAD TO BRING HER, LET'S GIVE YOU PARENTS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR Y'ALL APPRECIATION UNTIL WE GET THE TRANSPORTATION.
LIKE, SO IT WILL HELP IF THE TRANSPORTATION WILL BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE KIDS AND BRING THEM HOME.
UH, SO THAT IS OUR, OUR REQUEST.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THESE ARE WORKING FAMILIES, UH, WHO AND SOME OF 'EM IN SCHOOLS AND CANNOT BE HERE.
BUT THIS IS THE REQUEST WE HAVE FOR FOUR YEARS TODAY.
AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WE HAVE TO DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, I HOPE THAT WE WITHIN PROTOCOL AND, UM, THAT YOU WOULD GRANT, UH, THE $12,760, UH, TO JUST FOR THE DRIVER.
WE HAVE, AS I SAID, WE, WE HAVE THE BUS.
UH, THE $123,000 HAS BEEN PAID.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE.
IF I COULD JUST, LET'S GET INTO COUNTY.
MR. TYLER AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU ELABORATE WITH THE BOARD FROM OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY ABOUT FUNDING? IS THIS ONE TIME OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS BEING A REOCCURRING EXPENSE? AS I TOLD, UH, THE ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATOR ON YESTERDAY, WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
WE ARE HOUSED IN THE MODULE BEHIND THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND, AND FRANKLY BEEN THERE FROM DAY ONE.
WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING FOR SPACE WHEN WE FIND SPACE,
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IF IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WILL FREE UP THAT $2,000 THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR RENT ON THE MODULES, THAT MONEY WILL BE USED, WILL SAVE MONEY, BUDGET TO TAKE CARE OF THE VAN DRIVER OR THE BUS, THE BUS DRIVER.SO THAT IS OUR HOPE THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'S A ONE, HOPEFULLY IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE.
I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU ANYTHING FALSE AND COME BACK BEFORE YOU.
AND WE HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE LOOKING.
WE WENT TO THE HISTORIC, UH, SCHOOL SOUTH SIDE, AND WE LOOKED AT THAT AND OUR BOWL WAS ALL EXCITED.
AND, AND, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT DIDN'T, DIDN'T WORK OUT BECAUSE IT NEED RESTROOMS IN THE CLASSROOMS, ASSUME THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, SO, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SPACE.
MR. LEE, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, MR. TYLER, UM, THE BUS HADN'T RUN AT ALL YET, THEN YOU HAVEN'T USED THE BUS? NO, IT'S BRAND NEW.
BUT IT WAS A BRAND NEW BUS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME, AND I KNOW WE THOUGHT WE HAD HEARD THAT SOME THINGS WERE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND I, I DON'T WANNA SOUND HARSH HERE, BUT WE ARE REALLY NOT TASKED WITH EDUCATION OTHER THAN THE FUNDING, OVERALL FUNDING.
AND THEN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND, AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION HANDLES WHAT I CONSIDER EDUCATION.
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS FALLS UNDER EDUCATION.
SO I'M TRULY SYMPATHETIC AND HOPEFULLY THINGS CAN BE WORKED OUT.
BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE PROBABLY THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS ABOUT A MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS THAN, THAN WITH US.
AND, AND, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
HEAD START IS NOT ONLY A HEAD, AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHY THE FEDS HOUSE IT IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THEY COULD HAVE PUT UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, IT'S FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT IT DIDN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST EDUCATION.
SO THEY PUT IT UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BECAUSE HEAD START PROVIDE MORE THAN JUST EDUCATION.
THEY'RE JUST ONE COMPONENT OF THE PROGRAM.
IT'S JUST LIKE, IF YOU'RE GONNA WALMART, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
WELL, HEAD START, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
YOU HAVE THE NUTRITION, YOU HAVE THE VISION, YOU HAVE THE EDUCATION, YOU HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH.
THEN YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH A TOTAL FAMILY.
UNLIKE OTHER PROGRAM VPI, WHICH MY WIFE CARRIED THE BILL, IT ONLY DEAL WITH THE EDUCATION ASPECT, DEAL WITH THE CHILD.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU ARE, UH, OPTOMETRIST RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE KIDS IN THE HEAD.
START IT MANDATED, WE, ALTHOUGH KIDS MIGHT HAVE A VISION EXAMINATION MM-HMM
AND WE HAVE HAD KIDS THAT HAVE VISION EXAMINATION AND COULD NOT SEE.
SO WE HAVE, WE, WE ARE MANDATED BY LAW.
IF THEY CANNOT, WE HAVE THE FAMILY RESOURCES TO GET THEM GLASSES.
THAT'S NOT A MANDATE THROUGH VPI.
I'M JUST, IT'S, I GUESS THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BETWEEN THE HEAD START AND, AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND, AND I'M NOT SURE WE ARE BIG BROTHER OR, OR PARENT OR WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE.
THAT'S MY, I GUESS MY PROBLEM IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ROLE WE PLAY IN IT.
UM, OTHER THAN MAYBE BIG BROTHER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I, I THINK I ASKED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND RUFUSS, BUT WHAT DID, IS THERE A BUDGET ITEM FOR TRANSPORTATION IN THE HEAD START? FEDERAL FUNDING? YES.
WE, WE, WE HAVE, WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR GAS.
THE SCHOOL, EVERY SCHOOL DIVISION.
WHETHER IT'S SARA GREENSVILLE, SUSSEX, BRUNSWICK TRANSPORT THE CHILDREN, WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR REPAIRS ON THE BUS.
THEY TAKE CARE OF THE EXPENSE FOR THE GASOLINE.
BUT ANY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE THEY TAKE, WE, WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE, FOR THAT.
AND THE REASON BEING, BECAUSE WITH HEAD START, THEY WILL GIVE YOU 80% OF WHAT IT COSTS.
THE OTHER 20% YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOCA MATCH.
SO THEY DON'T GIVE 1% TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM.
IT'S A JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN THE FEDS AND THE LOCALES.
SO THEY WOULD GIVE THE 80% AND THEN THE 20%.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT AS COST
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OF LIVING INCREASES, WE STILL LOCKED IN WITH THE OLD BUDGET FOR MANY YEARS AGO.THEY GIVE YOU COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, BUT THEY DON'T, YOU CAN'T GO AND SAY, I NEED, UH, ANOTHER $50,000 FOR A TEACHER'S SALARY.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY WITH HEAD START.
SO WHAT OTHER LOCAL, SUCH AS CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT KICK IN.
WELL, AND OUR OTHER LOCALITY IS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS KICKED IN TO HELP MAINTAIN THE SALARY STILL BEING BEYOND THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
BUT THEY HAVE MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE HEAD START PROGRAM.
SO YOU, YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE, YOU DO REIMBURSE FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, FOOD AND MAINTENANCE ON THE BUS.
AND WHAT'S THAT NUMBER? IS IT A NUMBER IN YOUR BUDGET OR IS IT JUST AS NEEDED? WELL THEN NO.
WELL, WHEN, WHEN THEY, THE REPAIRS ARE MADE BY THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, TIRES, THEY WOULD SEND US THE INVOICE AND WE JUST SEND THE BILL, UH, AND PAY THE INVOICE.
IF I SAY ON AN AVERAGE, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT, UH, AND THIS IS NOT, I WOULD SAY CARBON STONE, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST $40,000, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES AT LEAST.
I WAS LOOKING AT SOME NOTES THAT GOT PUT BEFORE ME HERE.
AND IT SAYS THAT SCHOOL SYSTEM IS WILLING TO, IF THEY, WE COULD FIND A RETIRED BUS DRIVER, THEY'D BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.
IS THAT, IS THAT THE WAY IT'S READ? THEY WOULD HIRE THEM IF, IF THEY WOULD WORK BOTH FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND FOR THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION.
I THINK THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS INITIALLY WHAT WAS BEING CONTEMPLATED.
THAT'S EXACTLY, AND I, I, I TOLD, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT, THIS DRIVER WHO RETIRED, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR DRIVER ON THEIR PAYROLL FINE.
AND JUST USE OUR, THE NEW BUS.
WE JUST WANTED TO GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL.
SO THE DRIVER, UH, JUST RETIRED FROM, FROM THE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
SO WE SAYING THEY CAN TAKE 'EM ON THEIR PAYROLL, THE BUS, THEY CAN TAKE THE NEW BUS AND JUST TRANSPORT THE KIDS.
I GUESS ONE RETIRED SHOULD I THINK THE, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO MS. TALLA, WHAT WE DIDN'T, I, I DON'T MIND GIVING YOU A COPY OF THESE NOTES.
WESTON GAVE US A, AN E AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY THAT JUST KIND OF WALKED THROUGH THE HISTORY BETWEEN SHE, SHE COULDN'T COME TODAY MM-HMM
SO SHE WANTED TO GIVE US A BACKDROP OF THAT.
SO IN HER CORRESPONDENCE, SHE SAID THAT YOU, YOU AND HER DISCUSSED ABSORBING THE COST OF THE DRIVER.
IF, UH, WE COULD HIRE, THIS WAS HER PERSPECTIVE, HIRE A RETIRED DRIVER WHO ALSO WOULD SERVE THE DEWINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO I, I GUESS THE QUESTION, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU HAVE FOUND, UM, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO ALSO SERVE IF NEEDED THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO THE HOURS NECESSARY BETWEEN THE TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING AND TWO HOURS IN THE EVENING? OH, I, WHEN WE, WE, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE HAD THAT POTENTIAL CONVERSATION WITH NO, I I HAVE NOT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE QUESTION IS THAT THE DRIVER WHO WAS WILLING TO DRIVE THE BUS, WILL SHE DRIVE IN ADDITION TO THE FOUR HOURS PER DAY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE, RIGHT? I HAVE, I HAVE NOT.
WHEN WE INTERVIEWED HER, SHE ASKED HOW MANY HOURS WOULD SHE BE REQUIRED TO TRANSPORT.
WE TOLD TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING.
SHE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO OVER BEYOND THAT, THAT SHE RETIRED, I'M NOT SURE THAT SHE WOULDN'T EXTEND HER.
I, I'M, I I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
I REALLY, I HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH HER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THE, THE, THE BIG PICTURE TO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE, WE SPOKE YESTERDAY ABOUT IT AND FOLLOWED UP WITH DR.
WESTON TO GET, TO GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE YOU TODAY.
AND, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, WE, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE COUNTY BUDGETING PROCESS, RIGHT? AND I, I KNOW YOU HAVE SUBMITTED BUDGET REQUESTS IN THE PAST.
UM, IT'S, I THINK FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MR. LEE AND SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T IN COMPLETELY, 'CAUSE IT IS COMPREHENSIVE, THEY'VE ALWAYS KIND OF LOOKED AT THE BUDGET REQUESTS SHOULD, SHOULD COME THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THEY'RE THE MOST INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH YOU ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND IF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SUPPORTS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR HEAD START, THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COULD REQUEST THOSE FUNDS ANY YEAR TO DO THAT.
UM, I THINK THE, THE SPECIFIC ISSUE HERE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION AND ONE OF THE, THE INDIVIDUALS MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LAST MINUTE NATURE OF SOME OF THIS AND IT TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND CAN RESPECT THAT.
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AND AGAIN, NOT, NOT TO SHOW CRITICISM, BUT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION STARTED ON, ON AUGUST 8TH, 2000.UM, AND SINCE THAT TIME, I MEAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A TIMELINE HERE OF, OF YOU ALL TRYING TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN EMERGENCY AT THE LAST MINUTE TYPE OF SITUATION WHEN WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THIS IS JUST AS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR US TO, OR FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IF YOU HAVE ANY STEP BEFORE THE BOARD AND ASK FOR IT.
AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT TOO, I'M SURE.
UM, SO FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS, I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OPTIONS, I GUESS.
I MEAN, ONE, IT'S YOUR BUDGET.
SO AT, AT ANY POINT IN TIME THAT YOU WANNA APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR SOMETHING, YOU CAN, I DID EXPLAIN TO MR. TYLER THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE NEARLY 21 YEARS AND PROBABLY COULD COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE EVER AMENDED OR TO APPROPRIATE SOMETHING SPECIAL OUT OF THE BUDGET OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AND HE HAPPENED TO EXPERIENCE ONE OF 'EM AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THE SCHOOL SAID MR FOUR FOR THE PARKING LOT.
BUT IT'S, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, DI COUNTY, I KNOW WE WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE FINANCIAL STATE THAT YOU'RE IN.
BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE IN THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T BREAK YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES OF WHAT YOU TRY TO DO.
SO IF, IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRES, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO.
I THINK ALSO FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NOTES IS THAT, UM, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN YOU AND THE SCHOOLS HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE HOUSEKEEPING.
AND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT REGARDLESS, I MEAN, IF THE THOUGHT MR. MOODY IS THAT, HEY, WE, WE HAVE FOUND A RETIRED TEACHER THAT THAT WANTS TO SERVE.
IF THERE COULD BE AN, AN A MORE CONVERSATION WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, ELABORATE ON THEIR AVAILABILITY, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND FOR YOU ALL TO COME TOGETHER.
AND ALSO THE PAPERWORK THAT SHOULD BE FILED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS NEEDS TO BE FILED.
WESTON ALSO STRESSED THE FACT THAT, THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY, UM, ENTITY THAT RECEIVES INKIND SERVICES WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROUD OF THAT.
UM, BUT I MEAN, I THINK SHE'S OPEN JUST LIKE WE ARE TOO, TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE, AND AND SEE.
BUT I DON'T, EVEN IN TALKING WITH HER EARLIER AT GOVERNMENT DAY, SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT, THAT YOU HAD FOUND A RETIRED TEACHER KNOW ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THAT? NO, I, NO, I CALLED DR.
WESTON, UH, THE OTHER WEEK AND SAID, UH, WE HAVE FOUND THE TEACH, WE FOUND A BUS DRIVER AND I'M SORRY, BUS DRIVER, MY TEACHER, BUS DRIVER.
UH, AND I SAID, WELL, FIRST SHE HAD TALKED TO THE STAFF.
JEFF HAD TOLD OUR STAFF THAT THEY WILL NOT BE COMPENSATED AND TAKE UP THE EXPENSE.
WE THOUGHT THE MONEY WAS IN THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE WHEN WE STILL HAD LAST TIME, SHE SAID, WE WILL TRY TO WORK OUT SOMETHING ON THAT.
BUT THEN WHEN HE SAID, OUR STAFF AND, AND THEY CALLED ME, THEN I CALLED DR.
AND I ASKED HER, I SAID, WELL, WE HAVE FOUND, SHE SAID, WE COULD NOT FIND ANYONE AMONG OUR BUS DRIVERS TO DRIVE THE BUS.
SO I SAID, WELL, WE HAVE FOUND A BUS DRIVER.
I SAID, YOU, IT'S TWO WAYS WE CAN DO IT.
IF YOU WANT A SUBCONTRACTOR IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, WE CAN PUT 'EM ON OUR PAYROLL.
OR THE BUS DRIVER WOULD FOUND YOU CAN TAKE HIM AND PUT 'EM ON YOUR PAYROLL.
SHE SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
SO HERE WE ARE, UM, AND ALL DUE RESPECT.
BUT IF THE, THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYING, NO, AND I'M HERE AND YOU SAID NO, I MEAN, WE, THE PARENTS ACCORDING IN BETWEEN MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF THE TRANSPORTATION.
AND, AND WE CAN'T STAND THE MOU WITH THEM UNTIL THIS IS KINDA RESOLVED.
SO THE REASON THAT THE MOU HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED IS BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTATION.
ONE, ONE OTHER, JUST FOR THE, FOR EVERYONE, TYPICALLY WHEN WE FUND WHAT WE CALL OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, ANY ORGANIZATIONS NOT INTERNAL TO THE GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? SO ANYTIME THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD FUND AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION.
ONE OF THE PREREQUISITES OF THAT IS THAT WE LOOK AT THE, THE FINANCIALS OF THE ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE INVESTING LOCAL FUNDS WOULD BE.
SO IF IT IS THE DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE GET FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT, WE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A AUDIT EVERY YEAR.
MATTER OF HAD THE AUDITS END THIS WEEK FOR THE LAST 1215 YEAR, WE HAVE AN UNQUALIFIED AUDIT, MEANING ZERO QUESTION COSTS.
WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH
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THE AUDIT TOMORROW.UH, JUST THAT'S TYPICAL PROTOCOL FOR AN OUTSIDER ORGANIZATION.
BUT IT'S REALLY UP TO YOUR PLEASURE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT OUR, THAT HISTORICAL PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU, YOU, AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU WISH TO DEVIATE FROM THAT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY UP MS. CHAIRMAN TO YOU AND THE OTHER, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD, HOW YOU WISH TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO ANYTHING, BUT MM-HMM
I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS A SEATED A TABLE SOMEWHERE SOMETIME PRETTY QUICK, BUT IT'S NOT NOW.
SO, MR. TODD, JUST A QUESTION.
ARE ANY OF YOUR STUDENTS CURRENTLY BEING TRANSPORTED TO SOUTH SIDE UNDER DENVER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS? YES.
UH, SOME OF THE HEADSTYLE KIDS HAVE BEEN TRANSPORTED BY THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THERE ARE 15 KIDS, WHICH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL TRANSPORT, THERE'RE IN THE SOUTH SIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DISTRICT THAT IS.
BUT THEN THEY HAD BEEN TRANS 15, BUT THE OTHER 43 ARE, HAVEN'T ADDRESS TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND GET THE KIDS THERE.
AND THAT WAS A POLICY CHANGE THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
RIGHT? THEY CHANGED THE BUS ROUTE LAST YEAR.
NOW MY NOTES STATE THAT SHE WOULD BE, WOULD ABSORB THE COST OF, UM, THE FUEL AND THE MAINTENANCE ON IT.
OF COURSE, YOU HAVE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM FOR THE FUEL AND THE MAINTENANCE.
AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN OUR BUDGET.
I I THINK WE CAN HELP WITH THE FUEL WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
WE WOULD ABSORB THE COST FOR THE FUEL.
I THINK WHAT I SEE HERE IS, IS WHOEVER THE DRIVER IS, IF YOU DO HAVE A DRIVER, AND THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
IF THAT PERSON WOULD BE AN EMPLOY BACK, BECOME EMPLOYED BACK WITH THE DIMITY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I SAID THAT'S PART OF WHAT I SEE HERE.
THE OTHER IS THE LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUS.
IF YOU OWN THE BUS COMPARED TO THE DENWITTY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS OWNING THE BUS MM-HMM
IF IT HAS OTHER DENWITTY STUDENTS ON THAT BUS THAT AREN'T GOING TO HEAD START.
YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? FROM A LIABILITY POINT OF VIEW.
WELL, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HAVING ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BUS.
IT'S JUST YOUR BUT IF THIS, RIGHT, I SEE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LIABILITY FACTOR.
IF THE DENWITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S DRIVING THE BUS MM-HMM
BUT YET THE BUS IS NOT OWNED BY DENWOODY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THE HEAD STOP PROGRAM,
UH, BUT THAT BUS BECAME KIND OF OLD OBSOLETE, SO TAKEN OUT THE FLEET.
BUT IN THE OTHER ISSUE, I WAS JUST THINKING IF THIS YOUNG LADY HAVE, WELL, NOT YOUNG LADY, THIS, THIS LADY HAVE, UH, RETIRED THROUGH VRS, UH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU RETIRE FROM VRS, IT COULD AFFECT YOUR INCOME VERSUS IF YOU ARE NOT WORKING VRS, WHAT'S IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATES, NOT VRS WITH NONPROFIT, IT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT HER INCOME.
SO THAT I I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH HER.
SHE JUST AGREED TO WORKING FOUR HOURS A DAY, UH, FOR US.
MAYBE SHE DOESN'T WANNA ENJOY HER RETIREMENT.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT WE AGREED TO WITH HER.
I HAVEN'T HAD A SEAT AT THE TABLE NECESSARILY.
IF I TO, TO THE POINT OF THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, IF IT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE NOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TODAY AND HAVE MR. TYLER, MYSELF, THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT SIT DOWN AND TALK THROUGH, I I THINK THERE'S, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT IN THE WEEDS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YEAH.
HOW'S, I I THINK IF, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THAT YES SIR.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO ATTEND THAT MEETING TO, TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD COME OUT OF THAT.
IF, IF THAT'S A NEXT STEP THAT YOU WANT.
AND OF COURSE, MR. CHAIR, YOU, I THINK YOU COULD REPRESENT THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME.
AND SAME THING MS. PITTMAN ON THE, ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AS CHAIR IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST NEXT STEP GOING FORWARD.
UH, I MEAN, I, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU MY POINT OF VIEW RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T, I TRY NOT TO TELL THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HOW TO MANAGE THEIR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
WE ARE THE FUNDING ARM FOR THEM.
AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW I VIEW IT.
UM, AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.
YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY.
WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET 'EM ON THE BUS.
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AND WE APPRECIATE YEAH.WELL, YOU HAVE A NEW BUS? YEAH.
[7.A. Virginia Association Of Counties (VACo), Best Small County Achievement ]
SO WE'VE GOT ESPRESSO RECOGNITION.WE'VE GOT OUR FRIENDS FROM VACO WITH US HERE.
UM, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
AND OF COURSE, ALL OF US HAVE KNOWN HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM MANY, MANY TIMES.
UM, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, KEVIN, HOW YOU DOING? I'M DOING GREAT.
AND, UM, UH, UM, I HAPPEN TO, UH, HAVE THE, UH, DISTINCT PLEASURE TO, UH, RUN THE ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS.
UM, SO WITH THAT COMES SOME POWERS.
AND, UH, ONE IS TO CHOOSE WHICH BOARD MEETING.
UH, SINCE I HAVE FIRST CHOICE I WANT TO ATTEND.
SO HERE I AM, UH,
I MEAN, I HAD TO FIGHT JEREMY LAST TIME.
SO, UM, AND JEREMY'S ALREADY TEXTED ME, DID YOU SEE THE DISPLAY CASE AND ALL THIS STUFF? SO, UM, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.
UH, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST BOARDS ON, UH, IN THE COMMONWEALTH IN OUR, IN MY OPINION.
UH, UH, WE REALLY ENJOY ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE AND ALL YOUR WORK, UH, UH, TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND TO THE STATE.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS THIS YEAR.
UH, IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN, UH, 2003.
UH, SO THIS IS OUR 21ST YEAR, UM, 135 ENTRIES.
UH, WERE, UH, JUDGED THIS YEAR.
135 INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS FROM ACROSS THE STATE.
SO THIS IS A COMPETITIVE, UM, PROGRAM.
UH, NOT EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY.
UM, 33 WINNERS PROGRAMS WON OUT OF 20 COUNTRY, UH, 20 COUNTIES.
ONE IN FOUR, UH, RECEIVED AN AWARD.
UH, D WITTY COUNTY, THIS IS YOUR EIGHTH AWARD.
YOU ARE KNOCKING ON THE TOP 10.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE INCHING YOUR WAY UP THERE.
UM, UH, YOU WON THIS YEAR, THE BEST SMALL COUNTY ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS.
UM, I SAY IF YOU WIN AN AWARD, UH, YOU'VE BEEN NAMED ALL CONFERENCE.
IF YOU WIN ONE OF THE TOP THREE AWARDS, YOU'RE A PLAYER OF THE YEAR.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE WON A PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD.
YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST, UH, UH, THREE AWARDS OUT OF THE 33, UH, THAT WE CHOSE.
UM, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE WON THIS AWARD.
SO, UH, NO OTHER COUNTY HOLDS THAT DISTINCTION.
SO CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN FOR THAT.
SO, UM, YOU ARE TRULY THE BEST SMALL COUNTY, THE BEST MID-MAJOR, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
UH, YOU'VE, UM, MAYBE ONE DAY WE'LL JUST COMBINE EVERYONE AND SEE HOW YOU STACK UP WITH, UH, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN, IN, UH, SOME STATES.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, 2020 WAS THE OTHER TIME YOU WON A, UH, BEST SMALL COUNTY.
AND, UH, I SEE IN YOUR DISPLAY CASE THERE IS ROOM FOR IT, UM, FOR THIS
SO I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO KEVIN TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY PLANNING, UH, UH, PROJECT THAT WON THIS BEAUTIFUL AWARD.
SO, JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, THE, THE CITY PLANNING PROJECT IS, IS A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING PROBABLY FOR NEARLY A DECADE NOW.
BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN DEY COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND DEY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND SO THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE THE EIGHTH GRADE GIFTED STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LONG-TERM RESEARCH PROJECT WHERE THEY HAVE TO IN INVESTIGATE A, A SUBJECT MATTER.
AND IT HAS TO BE COMPLEX IN NATURE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE DO, UM, IS WE, MS. COLLINS, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND MYSELF, UM, THE CONCEPT IS WE GO INTO THE CLASSROOM AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THE ONSET OF THE ACADEMIC YEAR, AND WE EXPLAIN THE COMPLEXITIES OF ZONING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE LAND USE DECISIONS OR SOME OF THE MOST COMPLEX ONES THAT YOU CAN HAVE.
BUT WHAT WE DO WITH THESE STUDENTS, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THE BRIGHTEST AND AS FAR AS IN THE GIFTED PROGRAM, AND WE, WE ASK THEM TO START WITH A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER AND WE EXPLAIN TO THEM, UM, HOW IMPORTANT IT'S TO HAVE A VISION, RIGHT? WHERE, WHERE DO YOU WANT THINGS TO LOOK TO LOOK? HOW DO YOU WANT IT TO OPERATE? HOW'S IT SUPPOSED TO WORK EFFICIENTLY WITH EACH OTHER? AND THEN THERE'S, THEY DESIGN ON WHAT THEY THINK IS A MODEL CITY FROM THERE.
OR, AND WE SHOULD CALL IT A COUNTY.
BEING THIS IS A COUNTY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD, BUT YEAH, THEY, THEY COULD CHOOSE BOTH, RIGHT? THEY COULD BE IN A CITY, THEY COULD BE IN A COUNTY.
AND SO NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO
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UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE RELATIONSHIP TO ZONING, THEY ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE TAXES THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY.THEY WOULD HAVE TO, TO LOOK AT, UH, THE OPERATIONS OF IT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE.
SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T JUST A ONE WEEK PROJECT.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT SPANS A SEMESTER.
SO THEY, THEY SPEND THAT ENTIRE SEMESTER DESIGNING, UH, ON PAPER WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND SO THEY, THEY COME UP WITH, WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING FROM CARDBOARD CUTOUTS TO 3D GRAPHIC DESIGN WITH LAPTOP COMPUTERS.
WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING FROM AIRPORTS TO STORM WATER SYSTEMS, UH, MASS TRANSIT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THEN THE LAST PHASE AFTER THEY DESIGN IT IS THEY COME INTO THIS BOARDROOM AND THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, MARK BASSETT, TAMMY COLLINS AS THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND PLANNING, AND MYSELF.
SO IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN SHARK TANK, THIS IS KINDA LIKE THE SHARK TANK OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY COME IN WITH THAT MODEL AND THEY THEN DESCRIBE THE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S AN OIL PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EXTREMELY NERVOUS, NERVE WRACKING FOR THEM, UH, YOU CAN TELL THE SEMESTER'S WORTH OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF PROJECT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE WIN IN ALL THIS IS, IS WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD MOST RECENTLY A STUDENT THAT GRADUATED FROM DEWIN HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS GOING TO UVA, UH, AND INDICATED THAT THIS PROJECT LED TO HER PASSION IN WANTING TO GET A PUBLIC POLICY, UH, DEGREE.
AND SHE, SHE THEN TIES THAT BACK TO THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNMENT TOOK THIS TIME TO, TO REALLY EXPAND THE KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT ZONING AND, AND LAND USE IS ALL ABOUT.
AND NOW AGAIN, SHE'S, SHE'S SEEKING THAT DEGREE.
WE'VE HAD OTHERS OVER THE YEARS THAT TALK ABOUT HOW MEANINGFUL THIS PROJECT IS.
SO I'LL SAY ON BEHALF OF VACO TOO, I MEAN FOR TO VACO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE LOVE TO BE ABLE TO, AT LEAST FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SHOW AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE MODEL PROJECTS.
UH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO THE WORK TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT IT'S, IT'S AWFUL NICE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY YOUR PEERS, UM, WITH THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING THERE.
AND, AND TO, TO WIN BEST SMALL COUNTY TWICE, UM, SINCE 2020 IS IS A, A NICE FEAT TO HAVE, HAVE AS WELL.
'CAUSE IN ADDITION TO, AND MR. IFF PROBABLY CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN SUSSEX COUNTY 'CAUSE THEY WON AN AWARD LAST YEAR AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BUSINESS, SO WE STEAL INFORMATION ALL THE TIME.
I, I GO EVERY YEAR AND LOOK AT ALL THE ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, IS IT SCALABLE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO HERE? AND ALREADY JUST, JUST SINCE BEING RECOGNIZED FOR THIS, I, I'VE PROBABLY RECEIVED HALF A DOZEN OR DOZEN CALLS FROM OTHER LOCALITIES THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PROGRAM ALL ABOUT? AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING THE SAME THING.
AND THAT'S THAT PASSION TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK WILL COME OUT OF IT.
SO THAT'S THE, THE CITY PLANNING PROJECT.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT JUST AS A REMINDER AND G WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND FOR VACO FOR RECOGNIZING THESE TYPES OF ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
YOU REALLY CAPTURED THE SPIRIT OF IT.
UM, I HOPE THIS WILL BE REPLICATED IN OTHER COUNTIES.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED, WE LIKE TO SHARE THIS KIND OF STUFF.
SO IF WE COULD DO A PHOTO, CAN Y'ALL COME DOWN? SHOOT, WE'LL GET A PICTURE TOO.
LET ME GET EVERYBODY TO TAKE A COUPLE STEPS TO YOUR RIGHT JUST SO WE CAN BE CENTER THEM, THE COUNTY FEEL.
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BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF.IT'S A LOT OF COMMITMENT ON, ON Y'ALL'S PART TO, UH, THAT GOES INTO GETTING THIS ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
IT DOES, UM, THANK YOU TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT.
AND, UM, AND IN PARTICULAR THE STUDENTS.
YES, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE FRUITS OF THE LABOR AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, AND WE ALREADY HAVE ONE THAT SEES THE FRUIT OF THAT LABOR.
SO HOPEFULLY ONE DAY SHE WILL COME BACK TO DENWOOD COUNTY AND BE PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT CHAIRMAN.
I THINK SHE WANTS TO BE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WELL, SO THAT THERE WILL BE A PLACE FOR HER.
THERE WILL BE A PLACE FOR HER.
[8.A. Contract Award, Portable Toilet And Hand Washing Station Rentals ]
OKAY.WE'LL MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEMS. SO WE'VE GOT ONE THIS, UM, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE TODAY.
SO WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT AWARD FOR PORTABLE TOILETS AND HAND WASHING STATION RENTALS.
SO WE, SO WE JUST GOT BEST SMALL COUNTY, UM, AWARD.
AND THAT JEAN COMES UP WITH THIS, RIGHT? PORTA POTTIES.
THE, UH, COUNTY IS IN, IN NEED OF HAVING A FORMAL CONTRACT, UH, FOR PORTABLE TOILET SERVICES AND WA AND HAND WASHING STATIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW NOW WE HAVE HIM AT DEMAND SITES, UH, THE EAST SIDE ENHANCEMENT CENTER, YOU KNOW, SPORTS COMPLEX AND ALL SPECIAL EVENTS.
UH, EDMONDS HAS BEEN DOING OUR SERVICE FOR YEARS AND, AND WE'VE ALL BEEN REAL PLEASED WITH HIM.
BUT HE, HE SOLD HIS BUSINESS NOW TO A, LET'S SEE, I GOT IT MARKED HERE.
A UNITED, UNITED SERVICES SITE SERVICES OF MARYLAND.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU NOW BY SEEING IT FIRSTHAND, THEIR SERVICE IS NOT GOOD.
UH, HADN'T, WE HADN'T BEEN HAPPY WITH HIM AT ALL.
SO, UH, HOLLY HAD PUT A RFQ OUT WITH, UH, THE SCHOOLS AND WE HAD SIX VENDORS, UH, SEND IN REQUEST, I MEAN, UH, PROPOSALS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE PICKED A STAFF LOOKED AT IT AND WE PICKED, UH, JONES' WASTE SOLUTIONS.
UM, HE SEEMS TO BE A REAL GOOD GUY.
I'VE TALKED WITH HIM MYSELF PERSONALLY AT THE FAIR AND HE DID EVERYTHING HE SAID HE WAS GONNA DO AT THE FAIR.
SO I WAS HAPPY WITH HIS SERVICES SO FAR.
UM, BUT HE'S GOT A BRAND NEW TRUCK.
UH, I'VE, I'VE GOT ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD IN HIM.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M ASKING Y'ALL JUST TO, UH, PROVE OF YOU APPROVAL TO JOINT CONTRACT WITH, UH, JONES WASTE SERVICE.
YOU GOT GRADUATED WHERE THE PRICE WAS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE MM-HMM
WHAT WAS THE, ANN EDMONDS WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED, 110.
I THINK HE'S 115 FOR SINGLE PORT OF JOHN'S JONES.
WASTE WAS, YEAH, HE WAS LOW BID.
SO HE WASN'T THAT MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE PAYING ALREADY.
NOW IS HE ON THE DENWOODY SIDE OF SU STONY CREEK OR IS HE ON THE SUSSEX SIDE OF S STONEY CREEK? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.
UM, HIS FAMILY FROM DEN WOODY.
IS THAT FAMILY FROM DEN WOODY? YEP.
UM, BROTHER, IS HE ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A, HAVE A CONTRACT BEFORE US.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I'D LIKE DEALING WITH LOCAL, LOCAL PEOPLE AND SMALL BUSINESS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH APPROVE.
[8.B. Virginia Association Of Counties (VACo) Appointment Of Primary And Secondary Voting Delegate For Annual Meeting ]
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, OUR VACO APPOINTMENT OF PRIMARY AND SECONDARY VOTING DELEGATES FOR THE ANNUAL MEETING NEXT MONTH.YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE, UH, THE VACO AGAIN, ANNUAL CONFERENCE IS GONNA BE NOVEMBER 12TH, 13TH, AND 14TH.
TYPICALLY THE VOTING TAKES PLACE ON THE 14TH ON THAT, ON THAT TUESDAY.
UM, SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I THINK ALL OF YOU'LL HAVE, AND MRS. ZEBRA BONDER, WHO'S UNFORTUNATELY ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY IS ALL, UM, I THINK GOING TO THE CONFERENCE.
I DON'T THINK DR. MOORE, YOU'LL BE THERE ON THAT 14TH COMING TO BE ABLE, I'LL BE COMING HOME MONDAY NIGHT TO DO THAT.
SO IT RE IT GIVES THE OTHER FOUR BOARD MEMBERS THE POTENTIAL.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A, AN APPOINTMENT FOR A PRIMARY AND THEN AN ALTERNATE OR BACKUP JUST IN CASE THAT PRIMARY IS UNABLE TO DO IT.
AND THE VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE, ON THAT PARTICULAR 14TH DAY TUESDAY.
THIS IS THE EASIEST DECISION WE'VE MADE ALL DAY BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE BRENDA BONO AS THE, UM, AS THE PRIMARY, UH, DELEGATE.
SHE CAN'T BE HERE TO DEFEND HERSELF.
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SOSHE TY AND SHE HAS, SHE, SHE USUALLY THE VOTE SHE HAS.
AND HOW ABOUT OUR SECONDARY? YEAH, IF, IF SHE CAN'T MAKE IT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS THEN MR. LEE, MR. LEE, MR. LEE'S THE BACKUP? YEAH.
JUST NEED A VOTE FOR AGAIN, BRENDA, I BONO TO BE THE PRIMARY AND DAN LEE TO BE THE, THE ALTERNATE OR SECONDARY.
SO WE NEED TO, IS THAT IN A MOTION? FORM OF A MOTION? YEAH, IF WE JUST GET THAT IN A MOTION.
[9. CITIZEN COMMENTS (3 MINUTES) ]
NEXT ITEM IS CITIZEN'S COMMENT, PERIOD.AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE LARA STEFFAN.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TAKING TO, UM, TAKING YOUR TIME TO HEAR ME SPEAK.
MY NAME IS LARA STEFAN, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE COMMENTS REGARDING, UM, THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. RUFUSS TYLER AND THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION.
SO, MR. LEE, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR OUR BUDGET REQUEST, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WHO GIVES THE SCHOOL BOARD THEIR MONEY? NO.
WELL, THE AND AND WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER AFTERWARDS.
JUST GO AHEAD, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE, WE HAVE A BOARD.
WE CAN MAKE COMMENTS AFTER YOU.
WE CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD VERY WELL.
SO, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, FROM YOU GUYS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS.
I KNOW THAT THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION HAS APPROACHED YOU AND ASKED FOR FUNDING AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR AT BUDGET TIME, MIGHT I ADD? AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR YOU DENY THEM.
WE HAVE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS KNOWING THAT WE WERE HAVING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE FOR THREE YEARS.
THIS IS NOT A LAST MINUTE THING.
THIS IS NOT A SPUR OF THE MOMENT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIX THIS SITUATION AND I KNOW THAT, AND I FIND IT VERY POOR JUDGMENT ON YOU, THAT YOU KEEP DENYING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO YOU TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND THROW IT BACK IN OUR FACE AND MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT'S ALL OUR FAULTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, WE CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
[10. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS ]
COMMENT? SURE.AND IF I COULD, I JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT TO THE, TO MS. STEPHANS COMMENT, UM, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THERE.
SO I, I WILL AGREE MOSTLY WITH WHAT YOU'VE INDICATED.
AND AGAIN, I JUST, JUST TO TO CLEAR, UM, THIS PARTICULAR LAST YEAR, FY THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN NOW FY 20 FOUR'S BUDGET, WE DIDN'T GET A REQUEST FROM THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION THIS TIME AROUND.
UM, NOW, SPECIFICALLY IN YEARS PAST, WE HAVE, AND IT HAS BEEN DENIED.
AND I THINK IT GOES BACK AGAIN TO WHAT MR. LEE WAS SAYING, THAT IF A REQUEST FOR FUNDING COMES IN, THE PREFERENCE OF THIS BOARD IS THAT IT GO TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT THE REQUEST, AND IF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WANTS TO ASK FOR THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON THE BEHALF OF THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, THAT THEY COULD DO THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE COMPREHENSIVE SERVICE NATURE OF IT, UH, BUT I THINK FROM THE BOARD'S PREFERENCES, THEY WOULD PREFER THAT.
NOW, I, I CAN TELL YOU IN THE 21 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE NEVER HAD THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PRESENT A BUDGET REQUEST FOR HEAD START.
SO AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO SOUND, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY OTHER WAY.
BUT IF THE BOARD'S PREFERENCES ARE FOR THOSE TO BE VETTED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THEN WE WOULD PREFER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM GET THE REQUEST AND THEN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COME BACK AT US AT BUDGET TIME AND REQUEST FUNDS TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S AGAIN, THE APPROACH HERE AND HOPEFULLY IN THE CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE WITH MR. TYLER AND, AND THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS TO REITERATE THAT ON, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, UM, AS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.
UM, IF I COULD, UM, JUST WANNA BRING UP A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
ONE GOVERNMENT DAY WAS TODAY, UM,
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AND IT KIND OF, AND AGAIN, WE, WE JUST, THE RECENT CONVERSATION HERE ABOUT THE CITY PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DO PREFER TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOVE WORKING WITH THE CHILDREN.AND SPECIFICALLY I THOUGHT TODAY'S GOVERNMENT DAY WAS JUST THAT, UM, WE GET TO EXPOSE SENIORS, UH, WITH WHAT GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT.
AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF EXCITEMENT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE, WERE THERE TODAY.
AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, BUT A REALLY GOOD, UH, GOOD DAY THERE.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT JUST ON BEHALF, AGAIN, OF THE, THE BOARD, UM, MY APPRECIATION TO THEM FOR YOU ALL, SPENDING TWO DAYS, TWO LONG DAYS, UH, WITH US TALKING ABOUT OUR, OUR FALL ADVANCE LAST WEEK.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU ALL SEE THINGS OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
UM, AND THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO GET THAT INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME.
UH, AND WE CAN PREPARE THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
I, I THINK THE GOAL WAS TO TRY TO GET YOU A, A BETTER FEEL OF GOVERNMENT.
AND I THINK WHAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 70 SOME DIFFERENT AREAS OF IN, OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH
SO A A LOT TO, TO KIND OF, UM, TAKE IN.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE HEADED IN, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I WANNA THANK Y'ALL PUBLICLY FOR THE TIME THAT Y'ALL PUT INTO THAT.
UM, I WANT TO TELL YOU ALSO THAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, AFTER WE GET IT BACK FROM THE VACO CONFERENCE, UH, THAT WILL BE AN ACTION ITEM IN NOVEMBER.
UH, WE'VE STARTED TO GET SOME LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS.
ONE I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WAS RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I SERVE ON THAT BOARD, UH, THE FOUNDATION BOARD AND THE, UH, THE THOUGHT OF INDEPENDENT GOVERNANCE OF RBC NOT BEING UNDER WILLIAM AND MARY, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WHEN IT WENT TO THE, THE FINANCE COMMITTEES, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THAT, BUT THEY, THEY'RE GONNA TRY AGAIN THIS YEAR FOR, FOR THAT.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT ONE.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WE MAY, WE MAY WANNA LOOK AT.
THE OTHER IS SPECIFICALLY THE, THE REGULATIONS AS IT IS TO BURNING WITH DEQ AMEN.
AND THE IMPACT THAT'S HAVING ON MR. JONES' OPERATION THERE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S A REG CHANGE, IT'S NOT A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT THE LEGISLATURE TO BE MORE, UH, AWARE OF.
UM, ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE SUCCESS OF THE COUNTY FAIR.
THIS YEAR WE HAD, UM, IT'S PROBABLY OUR STRONGEST YEAR YET.
SO WE HAD ESTIMATED OVER 14,000 PEOPLE ON THAT FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
YOU KNOW, FRIDAY'S NIGHT, ALL DAY AND SUNDAY WE, WE CUT OFF A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
SO TO HAVE 14,000 PEOPLE IN IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME IS, IS SIGNIFICANT FOR US.
PROBABLY THE STRONGEST YEAR WE'VE EVER HAD.
AGAIN, THE GATE FEES COLLECTED, UH, WILL BRING IN OVER $27,000 JUST, JUST IN THAT GATE FEE.
UH, THE CARNIVAL PAYOUT IS GONNA BE AROUND 21, ALMOST $22,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT VENDOR FEES COLLECTED.
UH, WERE OVER 40, UH, $4,475 SPONSOR FEES WITH $3,100, UH, GRANTS, $8,940.
SO TOTAL REVENUE AROUND $66,000.
SO EVEN WITH THAT REVENUE COMING IN, WE PROBABLY EXPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THIS IS A STRONG YEAR TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, WHICH I THINK SHOWS THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY SUPPORTS.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK ALL THE STAFF.
'CAUSE THIS IS A, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WE ALL, WE ALL PITCH IN WHEN WE NEED TO, TO PULL OFF AN EVENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE SECRET SAUCE HERE FOR THE COUNTIES.
THE WORKFORCE IS WILLING TO, TO JUMP IN WHEN NEEDED AND JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK, UM, EVERYBODY, ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT FAIR.
ONE OF THE BEST THAT WE'VE EVER HAD, UH, LEADWELL SUMMIT IS ON SATURDAY.
IF YOU HAVE AN RSVP, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO.
UM, WE, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, ANOTHER GREAT EVENT.
REVEREND JOHN KENNY WHO, WHO OUR FIRST LEAD WELL SUMMIT IS COMING BACK AGAIN TO BE OUR SPEAKER AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE IN FRONT OF REVEREND KENNY AND, AND, AND WALK AWAY FROM IT THE SAME WAY.
AND HE'S JUST THAT TRANSFORMATIONAL OF THE SPEAKER.
SO THIS IS, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE HIGHLIGHT EVENT OF OUR FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE AND THE 80 SOME PLACES OF WORSHIP IN DEWIN COUNTY.
THEY KIND OF BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND, UM, TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS TO LEAD, UH, A COMMUNITY SO THAT THAT EVENT'S TAKEN PLACE AGAIN ON SATURDAY.
UM, AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, FOR THE BEST SMALL COUNTY AWARD, UM, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE VACO, UH, DOING THAT PROGRAM AND, AND KNOW FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE TOO.
WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THE BOARD MADE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. SILL.[11. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS ]
WE HAVE, UH, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.I'LL START WITH MR. MOODY OVER THERE.
I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT MR. CHAIRMAN OTHER THAN DID ENJOY GOVERNMENT DAY TO DAY.
IT WAS MY LAST GOVERNMENT DAY THAT I GONNA ATTEND AND, UH, HAD SOME GOOD, GOOD STUDENTS IN MY GROUP AND THEY DID A GOOD PRESENTATION, SO I WAS PROUD OF THEM.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS ABOUT THE FAIR.
I ATTENDED IT FRIDAY NIGHT, HAD SIX OF MY GRANDCHILDREN.
AND PLUS THEIR PARENTS, THANK GOODNESS.
'CAUSE I COULDN'T HAVE STOOD ALL THAT
BUT, UH, WE, THEY, THEY HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME AND WE ALL HAD GOOD TIME AT THE FAIR.
UM, I WANNA ASK FOR, UM, TO SAY A FEW WORDS NOW AND THEN AFTER YOU FINISH DR. MOORE, I'VE GOT SOMETHING OF SURPRISE, BUT, UM, OKAY.
I HADN'T GOTTEN HERE YET, SO ANYWAY, BUT, UM, OKAY.
MR. TYLER AND MA'AM, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA BE COMBATIVE ABOUT THIS AND, AND, AND REALLY I THINK KINDA WHAT I I WAS GETTING AT IS WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, UM, TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY.
I DO THINK IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT IF ANYTHING IS GONNA COME FOR THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, IT NEEDS TO COME THROUGH THE SCHOOL BUDGET AND BACK TO US.
AND MAYBE THAT'S BEEN A MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE PAST.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM FOR THESE KIDS.
UM, I, I'VE GOT EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME, EVERY YEAR ABOUT, UM, DEVELOPMENT EARLY ON WITH CHILDREN AND, AND I KNEW IT WAS TRUE, BUT, UM, WE'VE GOT A 2-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER THAT IS JUST LIKE A SPONGE AND IT, IT TRULY IS A, YOU'VE GOTTA GET 'EM EARLY AND YOU'VE GOTTA JUST POUND THEM WITH, WITH KNOWLEDGE AND THEY WILL RESPOND TO IT.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, IS A GREAT THING.
AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BE COMBATIVE ABOUT IT.
I, I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THOSE KIDS.
WELL, I DID ENJOY ADVANCE, I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME WAS ONE OF THE BETTER TIMES THAT WE HAD, UH, WITH EVERYONE.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, WAS MM-HMM
AND THE FAIR, I THINK THE FAIR IS LIKE A FAMILY REUNION,
UH, MY WIFE AND I WENT ONE NIGHT AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I COULD HANDLE.
I'M GETTING OLD, BUT IT WAS A GOOD TIME.
UH, GOOD FOOD, UH, THEY ALWAYS DO.
AND, UH, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE DONE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN, UH, BENEFIT TO ALL OF US, UH MM-HMM
BUT GETTING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER IS NUMBER ONE THING.
UH, TAKE US AND GETTING COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE, HOW GOOD OUR COUNTY IS DOING DOES, UH, MORE FOR ME THAN ANYTHING.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS PART OF THAT.
ALL I CAN SAY PART, I THINK A WHOLE LOT OF THAT.
SO, UH, I ENJOY BEING A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.
UM, IT'S HARD SOMETIMES, BUT OVERALL, UH, ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE FOOD VENDORS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING INTO IS, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT, UH, THE VENDORS THAT COME IN.
WE HAVE CHURCHES AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NONPROFITS THAT, THAT THIS IS ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST FUNDRAISERS OF THE YEAR, IS TO PROVIDE FOOD AT THE COUNTY FAIR.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE BUSINESS SENSE OF HOW MUCH REVENUE CAME IN AND HOW MUCH WE SPENT.
BUT YOU KNOW, ANOTHER KEY FACTOR THERE IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DID THESE NON-PROFITS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS GENERATE THAT THAT MONEY THAT THEY MADE GOES DIRECTLY BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE AND THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY SUPPORT.
UH, SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO WHAT THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, HOW THAT IS GOING TO, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE FAIR HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON FRIDAY EVENING.
UH, ENJOYED, UM, THE ALUMNI THAT I BOUGHT FOOD FROM FFA, UM, MR. LEE AND I BOTH HAD A NICE STEAK SANDWICH AND IT WAS
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DARN DELICIOUS.UM, I THINK OUR FRIENDS NEXT DOOR AT IN DARVILLE TON CLUB, THEY SOLD OUT.
AND, AND I THINK MOST OF THEM, ALL THE VENDORS IN GENERAL DID VERY WELL.
SO THANKS TO THE STAFF, IT, IT, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT GOES INTO PUTTING ON THOSE THREE DAYS.
AND, UM, THE OTHER IS I GOT SOME OF MY CHURCH MEMBERS HAD GONE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOR FAITH AT THE FAIR AND, AND THAT, THAT'S A WONDERFUL COMPONENT THAT'S ADDED THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THE FAIR.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT.
UM, THE BOARD ADVANCE, OF COURSE, WAS LAST WEEK, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, WORKING WITH STAFF, JUST LOOKING AT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
AND EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, WHERE ARE WE HEADED AS A COUNTY? AND I THINK WE GOT KIND OF TOOK THE PERISCOPE AND KIND OF ZEROED IT IN A LITTLE BIT ON, ON SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
SO, UM, VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD MEETINGS THERE.
UM, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TWO CHURCHES, AND I THINK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE ARE SISTER CHURCHES.
ONE IS CENTRAL BAPTIST CHURCH, ONE IS ROCKY BRANCH BAPTIST CHURCH THAT WILL BOTH TURN 150 YEARS OLD IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
WELL, ONE IS ALREADY TURNED OCTOBER THE 15TH.
CENTRAL BAPTIST WAS THERE, A HUNDRED 50TH AND ROCKY BRANCH BAPTIST CHURCH, THEIRS WILL BE ON THE 29TH.
SO, BUT THEY ARE SISTERS, IF I'M WHAT I WAS TOLD.
SO, UH, TO GET TO 150 YEAR ANNIVERSARY, THAT, THAT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL THING IN GOD'S MM-HMM
UM, THE LEADWELL SUMMIT, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
KENNY IS AN EXCELLENT SPEAKER AND I HOPE IF ANYBODY IS LOOKING AND WATCHING, UM, THAT THEY WILL GO AND REGISTER.
UM, BUT THAT'S FROM EIGHT 30 TO 12.
AND THEN NEXT SUNDAY, SUNDAY WEEK AT THREE O'CLOCK AT MY HOME CHURCH, WEST END BAPTIST CHURCH, WE WILL HAVE OUR, UH, FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE, SERVICE.
AND AT THAT WE WILL HAVE THE VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY CORAL GROUP WILL BE THERE.
AND IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD THEM SING, THEY ARE VERY GOOD
AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL AS SOME, SOME OTHER GOOD MUSIC AND I, AND SOME GOOD PREACHING GOING ON TOO.
WE GOT TWO PASTORS THAT WILL BE, BE, UH, GIVING SERMONS.
THREE O'CLOCK, UH, NEXT SUNDAY.
AND WITH THAT, I KNOW YOU GOT SOMETHING SPECIAL, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
WELL, I, I DO AND I DON'T BECAUSE, UM, TWO YEARS AGO I WAS SITTING HERE TEXT MESSAGING MY WIFE, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A GRANDDAUGHTER BEING BORN.
AND SO LAST YEAR SHE CAME AND WE SANG HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
UM, SHE JUST LEFT A BABYSITTER IN, UM, IN
SO I DON'T THINK, HOPEFULLY SHE'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT IN A HURRY,
SO I WOULD SAY IF WE GO, WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AND DO EVERYTHING.
AND THEN IF Y'ALL WOULD ALLOW ME TO WAIT A FEW MINUTES AND WE'D SING HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND ME GET A COUPLE OF PICTURES, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
[12. CLOSED SESSION ]
WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE A NEED TO GO IN A CLOSE SESSION, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THAT.AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'LL, THEY WON'T BE LONG.
THE BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.
PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS CRATER PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION CRATER PLANNING DISTRICT METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, CREATOR DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING TRANSPORTATION SAFETY COMMISSION, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 5.
BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 3.
DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES AND LEASE OF PART OF NORTHSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE FOR FIBER HUT 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 8.
CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND AND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 18 29, DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT OR DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND
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CONTRACTS.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE PLEASE? SO, SECOND IT ROLL CALL MR. MOODY.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE, UM, CASES THIS EVENING.
PUBLIC HEARING CASES AND UM, SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS.
SO WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 7:00 PM AND THAT, THAT'S IT? YEP.
WE CAN JUST WAIT FOR BIRTHDAY GIRL.
I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO COME OUTTA CLOSED SESSION.
WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED IN A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.
PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS CREATOR PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION CREATOR PLANNING DISTRICT METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, CREATOR DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING TRANSPORTATION SAFETY COMMISSION, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE.
BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A 3 71 83 DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES.
LEASE OF PART OF NORTHSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE FOR FIBER HUT 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 8.
CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED OR RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL BROADBAND 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A 29 DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPONENTIAL OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS OF BIDDERS OR OFFERS AND DISCUSSION OF THE TERMS OR SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY BROADBAND CONTRACTS.
AND WHEREAS NO MEMBER HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED, THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE.
[13.A. Centenarian Recognition- Mary Alston ]
GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY TO OUR EVENING SESSION.WE'RE GONNA START THIS EVENING BY RECOGNIZING SOMEONE THAT IS A CENTENARIAN.
HER BIRTHDAY IS ON SEPTEMBER THE 27TH, OR WAS ON SEPTEMBER THE 27TH.
AND I'M GONNA ASK MS. AUSTIN IF SHE AND HER FAMILY WILL COME FORWARD FOR ME.
I'M GONNA COME DOWN, COME DOWN TONIGHT.
WE'VE GOT A RECOGNITION OF MS. AUSTIN.
THE BOARD HAS A, UM, PROCLAMATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO HER THIS EVENING.
SO LEMME READ TO YOU WHAT IS ON THE PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS MRS. MARY ANN AUSTIN WAS BORN ON SEPTEMBER THE 27TH, 1923 AND WAS THE SECOND OF 11 CHILDREN BORN TO JOHN W AND DORA P JACKSON IN MCKINNEY, VIRGINIA.
AND WHEREAS MARY AUSTIN WAS MARRIED TO CHARLES JONES SENIOR AND HAS A SON FROM THAT C AND SUBSEQUENTLY MARRIED ANTHONY AUSTIN AND GAVE BIRTH TO A DAUGHTER.
AND WHEREAS MARY AUSTIN LIVED IN HARLEM, NEW YORK FOR A PERIOD OF 18 MONTHS WHERE SHE WORKED IN A DOLL FACTORY AND ALSO MADE JACKETS FOR SOLDIERS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY.
AND WHEREAS MARY AUSTIN LIVED IN WASHINGTON DC FROM 1941 TO 1978, WHERE SHE WORKED IN THE NATIONAL PRESS BUILDING, SERVED AS A DOMESTIC CARETAKER AND ALSO WORKED AS A CHILDCARE PROVIDER.
AND WHEREAS MARY TON IS A LIFELONG MEMBER OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF MCKINNEY, WHERE SHE IS ACTIVE IN THE SENIOR MINISTRY, THE THE MISSIONARY
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MINISTRY AND OTHER MINISTRIES OF THE CHURCH.AND WHEREAS MRS. MARY AUSTIN HAS 13 GRANDCHILDREN, NUMEROUS GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN AND SEVERAL GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.
AND WHEREAS MS. MARY AUSTIN ENJOYS BREEDING AND FISHING AND IS KNOWN FOR ASKING ENDLESS QUESTIONS, WHICH WILL RESULT IN AN UNOFFICIAL MOTTO YOU DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU ASK.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE DIGNITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY, OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZES MRS. MARY AUSTIN FOR ACHIEVING 100 YEARS OF AGE AND HER CONTRIBUTIONS, WHICH HAVE SPANNED MANY GENERATIONS AND CALLED THIS OBSERVERS TO THE ATTENTION TO ALL OUR GRATEFUL CITIZENS ON BEHALF, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF DENVER COUNTY, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU THIS EVENING.
SO THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS FOR ANY WORDS OF WISDOM YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US.
WANNA BE IN THE TURN? THIS AROUND? ANYONE WANTS TO BE IN THE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE'S? I AM.
BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT RESOLUTION.
I'LL, I'LL ALSO MOVE, I'LL SECOND IT.
ANY BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE ANY COMMENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT MCKINNEY? WELL, I JUST, UM, KNIGHT LIKE TONIGHT, UH, UH, TRULY SPECIAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, GREAT.
UM, THAT WE COULD RECOGNIZE YOU MS. AUSTIN AND, UM, BEING FROM MCKINNEY, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PRETTY SPECIAL TOO.
SO, UM, SO I JUST, UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF DENWOODY COUNTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
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CONGRATULATIONS.I JUST HOPE I CAN LIVE TO BE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND FISH LIKE YOU FISH
WELL, THAT'S VERY SPECIAL OCCASION 'CAUSE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
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IS A RECOGNITION OF OUR STUDENTS THAT WERE IN THE SUMMER WORKFORCE INITIATIVE.AND I'LL CALL ON CORNELL HENDERSON IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD.
UM, TODAY WE, WE, WE WILL BE RECOGNIZING OUR 2023 SUMMER WORK-BASED LEARNING PARTICIPANTS FOR, AGAIN, SUMMER OF 2023.
UM, SO FIRST, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UM, PARENTS, IF YOU ARE HERE, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND PARENTS OF PARTICIPANTS IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY EMPLOYERS, UM, THAT HOSTED OUR STUDENTS THIS SUMMER, IF YOU ALL WILL PLEASE STAND.
AT THIS TIME WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND YOU CAN STAND RIGHT IN THE FRONT.
UH, MS. KIARA BAKER COMING IN HERE.
PEYTON O'CARROLL, JADA YOUNG? YES MA'AM.
TI REED, GABRIELLE BOWMAN, NALA, JAYDEN THORNTON AND BRADEN CROWDER.
ANYONE ELSE THAT I MISSED? THAT'S IT.
SO AGAIN, I WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL BOARD.
UM, WE DID HAVE ANOTHER 100% COMPLETION RATE FOR THIS SUMMER WITH 30 KIDS.
UM, SO AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOURSELF A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE AT THIS TIME IF THE EMPLOYERS WANT TO COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE REAL QUICK WITH THE STUDENTS.
UM, SEE, PARKS AND REC WAS MS. MORGAN.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO COME UP, COME TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MS. COME TOGETHER, JACOB IN THE FRONT.
YOU'RE ALWAYS IN THE BACK HERE.
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THANK YOU.IF I COULD JUST MAKE A, MAKE A STATEMENT, UM, AS SOME PEOPLE ARE ARE FILTERING OUT, UM, I, I KNOW THE BOARD IS AWARE OF THIS, BUT THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT QUIN HENDERSON, WHO, WHO IS OUR EMPLOYEE AT LEAST FOR A FEW MORE DAYS, IS MOVING ON TO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
AND SO I CAN TELL YOU HE HAS PUT HIS HEART AND SOUL INTO HIS PROFESSION HERE IN DENWOODY COUNTY.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MISS HIM HERE IN DENWOODY, BUT NO, THAT, NO DOUBT HE'S GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL, UH, IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AS HE FURTHERS HIS CAREER OVER THERE.
UH, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING.
THANK YOU QUINNELL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[14.A. P-23-4, Rock River Inc. ]
WE'LL START THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR, UM, MEETING THIS EVENING, AND OUR FIRST CASE IS P DASH 23 DASH FOUR, AND IT'S ROCK RIVER INCORPORATED.AND WE HAVE MR. ROBINSON FROM DENWITTY PRESENTING.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS IS, UH, REZONING APPLICATION P DASH 23 DASH FOUR, UH, FOR WHICH THE APPLICANT IS ROCK RIVER INCORPORATED.
AND TO REMIND YOU THIS, THIS, UH, CASE WAS ON YOUR MEETING AGENDA LAST MONTH AND IT WAS TABLED TO THIS MONTH.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE PROPERTY THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 184 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS FROM AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NASH ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 0.43 MILES WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF ROUTE ONE.
SO MY INTENT TONIGHT IS TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED TO THE PROFFER STATEMENT SINCE LAST MONTH'S MEETING, IF THAT IS FINE WITH YOU ALL.
SO YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT, UH, YOU RECEIVED FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD HAVE THE LIST OF THE LATEST PROFFERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, THOSE PROFFERS WERE RECEIVED ON OCTOBER THE 12TH.
AND THE CHANGES TO THE PROFFERS SINCE LAST MONTH'S MEETING INCLUDE A REVISION OF PROFFER SIX.
PROFFER SIX CURRENTLY READS 25 UNITS CONSTRUCTED IN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE BUILT AT A MINIMUM OF 1500 SQUARE FEET EXCLUSIVE OF PORCHES, DECKS, CARPORT, OR GARAGE.
ALL OTHER UNITS CONSTRUCTED IN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE BUILT AT A MINIMUM OF 1750 SQUARE FEET, EXCLUSIVE OF PORCHES, DECKS, CARPORT OR GARAGE.
NO UNIT SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE SUBDIVISION SMALLER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROFFER THAT YOU HEARD LAST MONTH WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
IT TALKED ABOUT A SUBDIVISION WIDE AVERAGE OF 1750 SQUARE FEET AND IT WENT ON TO, UH, PROVIDE A REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, THAT AVERAGE WOULD BE REPORTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION REACHED 33% AND 66%.
SO THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN REVISED.
THE NEXT CHANGE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE IS A PROFFER, NUMBER 11, THAT PROFFER IS COMPLETELY NEW.
IT READS THAT ALL UNITS IN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE LIT BY A MINIMUM OF TWO FLOODLIGHTS AND ONE PILLAR LIGHT ADJACENT TO EACH UNIT'S DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER THAT HAS BEEN ADDED.
AND I WILL STATE THAT WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS PROFFER, THE NUMBER OF PROFFERS INCREASED FROM 18 PROFFERS TO 19 PROFFERS.
SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF 19 PROFFERS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, THE NEXT CHANGE OCCURRED TO PROFFER
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NUMBER 15.UH, THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE ADDITION OF LANGUAGE, UH, REGARDING THE TRAIL.
THE LANGUAGE STATES THAT THE TRAIL WOULD CONSIST OF OR WILL CONSIST OF CRUSHED GRANITE AROUND ITS PERIMETER.
SO THAT LANGUAGE IS SLIGHTLY REVISED FROM LAST MONTH'S STATEMENT.
AND LASTLY, UH, THE LAST CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO THE PROFFER STATEMENT INVOLVES PROFFER NUMBER 18, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY NUMBER 17.
ALL OF THE LANGUAGES THE SAME, BUT THERE IS A STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE END OF THAT PROFFER THAT SAYS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SHALL SET SUBDIVISION WIDE STANDARDS TO ENSURE QUALITY AND CONSISTENCY FOR FENCING, MAILBOXES, AND SUCH OTHER STANDARDS AS IT MAY ADOPT AND ENFORCE OVER TIME.
SO THAT CONCLUDES THE CHANGES TO THE PROFFER STATEMENT.
UH, OTHERWISE, UH, ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN LAST MONTH PRESENTATION IS THE SAME.
UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING.
WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE TO COME FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, I THINK MR. ROBINSON DID A GREAT JOB OF ELICITING, UH, THESE, THESE COMMENTS ELUCIDATING THESE, THESE, UH, CHANGES.
AND THOSE ARE THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
I TOOK GOOD NOTES, UM, AND, UH, WOULD SUBMIT THEM AND, AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, I TRIED TO BE, UH, FAITHFUL TO WHAT YOU ALL TOLD ME TO DO.
AND SO, AND BACK THIS MONTH WITH THOSE CHANGES, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT FORMULA, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, UH, HEARTBURN ABOUT THAT.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND SPOKE WITH GREAT PARTICULARITY THAT ESSENTIALLY ONE THIRD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT 1500, AND THEN THE REST OF THEM CAN BE BUILT, UH, AT A MINIMUM OF 1750 AND THEN ABOVE, UH, PRESUMABLY.
AND OF COURSE, ROCK RIVER HAS, UH, HOMES THAT, THAT RANGE WAY BEYOND 1750.
SO, UH, COULD BE 2500, 3300, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY FOR MINIMUMS, UM, WANTED TO, WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID HIT THAT THE LIGHTING, THE, THE COMMON SPACE THAT WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL GRADE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT CRUSHED GRANTED AROUND THE TRAIL.
AND THEN, UM, THESE HOA SUBDIVISION WIDE STANDARDS, UH, WE HEARD THAT LAST MONTH AS WELL TO ENSURE BOTH QUALITY AND CONSISTENCY OF THINGS LIKE FENCING AND, AND LIGHTING.
AND, AND I ADDED AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER IN THERE, UH, ON LIGHTING, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU ALL KNEW THAT, THAT WE WILL HAVE THOSE THREE LIGHTS ON EVERY UNIT.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE HOA ENFORCING THAT QUALITY AND CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT, UH, THE SUBDIVISION FOR, FOR THINGS LIKE FENCING AND MAILBOXES AND ENSURING THAT THERE'S NOT, UH, TO, TO, I THINK, UH, MR. LEE'S POINT, MAYBE NOT LAST I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, BUT, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF FENCING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAILBOXES AND THINGS, JUST NOT LOOKING RIGHT WHEN YOU DRIVE IN.
SO THIS WILL BE A, UM, A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S UNIFORMITY AND, UH, I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO BE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO SOON, BUT I THINK I'LL BE TASKED WITH DRAWING THAT UP.
UM, MAYBE SUBJECT TO TONIGHT'S VOTE, BUT, UH, WELL, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
AND ANY, CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, FROM ANYONE? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.
PROFFER, UM, 14 IS THE TWO ACRES AND IN, UM, CONTAIN NO MORE THAN 77 LOTS.
UM, BUT THAT'S, YOU'RE NOT POSITIVE OF THAT NUMBER OF LOTS.
AND THEN CONSTRAINTS WITH, UH, WHATEVER ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY COULD YIELD LESS NUMBER OF LOTS.
THAT'S CORRECT, SUPERVISOR LEE, WE, UM, WE THINK THAT DUE TO TOPOGRAPHY CONSTRAINTS, THAT NUMBER COULD, COULD COME DOWN 2, 3, 4 LOTS DEPENDING ON WHAT ALL THAT LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE.
ONCE YOU GET OUT THERE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAND, DO THE SURVEY, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, MAKING SURE WE'RE, WE ARE ABIDING BY THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, UH, RPA, ET CETERA.
UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS PERTAINING TO THE, UM, THE TAPER ON SIX ON NASH ROAD? YES, SIR.
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LEFT LANE.SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, I SAYS, FOLLOWING STUDY AND APPROVAL BY VDOT, THE OWNER SHALL CONSTRUCT NOT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION OR BEFORE THE FIRST LOT IS COMPLETED.
WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT IN OR HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THAT MIGHT BE, UM, TIME WISE, THE REASON AND, AND THE REASON, UM, AND, AND, AND I DID TAKE NOTES ON, ON THIS CONCERN, UH, IN PREVIOUS, UM, HEARINGS ON THIS, THIS LANGUAGE.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A DISTANCE ISSUE THERE WITH THE, THE BRIDGE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS THE CLIENT'S INTENT TO PUT THIS IN THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS VDOT GOING TO APPROVE? RIGHT? AND SO I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THE LENGTH.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO START, UM, WHAT THE DISTANCE IS GONNA BE THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, BUT THE LANGUAGE DOES REQUIRE, UM, DOES REQUIRE US ONCE FEED DOTS TELLS US WHAT TO DO FOR US TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
IT'S JUST, IT'S SORT OF ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, WHAT CAME FIRST, A CHICKEN OR THE EGG, WE JUST, WE NEED THEM TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THAT LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN THAT WAY.
THE OTHER IS THE 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.
SO THE FIRST 25% COULD ALL BE 1500 IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY.
UM, UH, THIS IS 25 UNITS, PERIOD.
WELL, 25 UNITS OF 77 TOTAL MAX.
SO 25 UNITS COULD BE UP TO, UH, MAYBE A THIRD, ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE UNITS WOULD BE PROPOSED AT 1500 SQUARE FEET.
BUT THE FIRST MINIMUM, THE FIRST UNITS THOUGH, COULD ALL BE 1500 SQUARE FEET ACCORDING TO THE PROFFER.
I, I WOULD THINK CHANCE THERE'S NO MIX.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT TO ASK THE QUESTION.
WE DON HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A MIX IN THERE STATING THAT OF THAT IT'LL AVERAGE 1750.
I THINK PART OF THAT IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH WHAT THE MARKET WILL YIELD.
UM, WE ARE SORT OF AT THE END OF A BUSINESS CYCLE RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME SIGNS ARE INDICATING THAT MAYBE THINGS WON'T BE AS BAD AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR FROM AN INTEREST RATE PERSPECTIVE.
OTHER SIGNS MAY BE INDICATING OTHERS.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S FEELING THE, THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE OR THE GAS PUMP OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, RIGHT NOW, I WOULD THINK THE, THE LOWER, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE MAY SELL A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT NOW, BUT NEXT YEAR AS IF WE COME OUT OF THIS THING, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT, OKAY, UH, WE'LL START SEEING THESE INTEREST RATES FALL.
AND I, I DO THINK THESE OTHER UNITS WILL SELL TOO.
THE, THE, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THESE ARE HIGH QUALITY HOMES AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY THEM.
AND THESE MINIMUMS Y'ALL ARE GOING TO LOOK AT AND SAY, WELL, WE WERE GLAD WE HAD 'EM IN THE CASE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA BE ABOVE THE MINIMUMS IN MOST OF THESE SITUATIONS.
I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE, THE, LET'S SAY THE FIRST TWO YEARS, THE FRONT SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION COULD LOOK DIFFERENT FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THE, THE MORE IN DEPTH.
AND I, AND I THINK, UM, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE, UM, KEEN TO THAT AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE, UH, LOOK LOPSIDED.
THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS, IS THAT, UH, FOLKS WILL WANT TO COME IN AND PICK A LOT AND, UM, HAVE THE, THE FREE MARKET ABILITY TO, TO WORK THAT OUT AND NEGOTIATE THAT.
SO I, IT'S A HARD THING TO, FOR US TO GIVE YOU THE WHOLE ENCHILADA.
WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME OF THE ENCHILADA.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, BUT THE WHOLE ONE IS, IS, IS DIFFICULT ON THAT FRONT.
'CAUSE THERE, THERE ARE THOSE MARKET FORCES AT PLAY.
AT THE LAST MEETING I ASKED IF ROCK RIVER HAD DEVELOPED ANY PROPERTY FROM DAY ONE.
AND YOU GAVE ME A COUPLE NAMES, BUT STAFF IS, UH, HAD ASKED SINCE THAT TIME FOR A COUPLE ADDRESSES, AND I DON'T THINK THEY RECEIVED ANY ADDRESSES AT, AT THIS TIME THAT I UNDERSTAND.
DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT MR. DENSMORE? CAN YOU, CAN YOU COME UP AND TALK TO THEM? WHAT, NO, NOT YOU, SIR.
JEFF DENSMORE WITH ROCK RIVER.
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UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY, IF, IF THEY ASKED FOR IT, I, INSIDE COORDINATOR SHOULD HAVE BEEN, WOULD PROVIDE THE ADDRESSES, BUT IT WAS A COMMUNITY IN BLACKSTONE WAS FROM START TO FINISH AND, AND ALSO IN PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY.DO YOU KNOW WHAT STREETS THEY WERE ON IN BLACKSTONE? SO IN BLACKSTONE 10TH STREET, THE END OF 10TH STREET COLLEGE DRIVE TURNS INTO BROS LANE IN ROLAND HILLS DRIVE.
THAT WOULD BE THAT ONE THERE ON PRINCE UP IN PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN DARLINGTON HEIGHTS AREA AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN MOORE ROAD AND, UH, DARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROAD.
BUT THOSE ROADS WERE ALREADY STATE MAINTAINED ROADS.
THAT WAS JUST A SUBDIVISION WE'D DONE.
THE SIZE OF THE HOMES IN BLACKSTONE, WHAT'S THE BASIC SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE? IF WE GO LOOK AT THEM? UH, IF YOU GO LOOK AT 'EM, UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL 'EM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
FIRST ONE ON THE LEFT, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A 1350.
THE NEXT ONE ON THE LEFT IS 18 11, 1 AT THE END OF THE STREET'S, 1500 COMING BACK AROUND.
I THINK IT'S A 1500 AND A 1750.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A MIXED BAG.
AND WERE THE STREETS ALREADY IN, OR DID YOU PUT THE STREETS IN WHERE THE HOMES WERE AT? NO, THE STREETS WERE NOT IN.
SO WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BACKING UP, SIMILAR TO TURKEY RUN.
TURKEY RUN WAS ALREADY AN APPROVED SUBDIVISION.
HOWEVER, THE ROADS, EVERYTHING WAS ALREADY INSTALLED IN THERE.
THIS ONE HERE THEY WERE, IT WAS ALREADY ZONED AND APPROVED.
THE ROADS HAD NOT BEEN PUT IN.
SO WE PUT THE ROADS IN, WE FOLLOWED THE PLANS THAT BLACKSTONE PROVIDED US.
THOSE ROADS OVER THERE ARE ALSO GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IN DENWOODY BECAUSE THOSE OVER THERE ARE WHAT WE CALL CHIP AND SEAL.
AND THAT'S WHAT BLACKSTONE WANTED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THEIR ROADS ARE.
WHEREAS THIS IS ACTUALLY ASPHALT PAVEMENT.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION TO THIS CASE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE ADAM ARNETTE.
GOOD EVENING, NAME AND ADDRESS.
ADAM ARNETTE NASH ROAD 1 4 6 1 5.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHY I'M HERE.
I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE SUBDIVISION.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS WILL BE MY THIRD TIME AT THE PODIUM.
UM, DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, SEE IF I CAN GET THIS PHONE TO WORK.
AND HOPEFULLY, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THIS, THIS PROPOSED AREA IS NOT EVEN IN THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AREA.
IT IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE PHASED GROWTH AREA.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE, THE BOARD MEETING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THAT AREA WAS DESIGNATED TO BE A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DEESCALATION ZONE, SO TO SPEAK, WHERE YOU HAD ALL OF THE, THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN YOU KIND OF WINDLE DOWN INTO THE, THE FARMING COMMUNITY.
AND I'M JUST STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW THIS BIG SUBDIVISION IS, IS A TRANSITIONAL FROM THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO THE RURAL.
IT'S ALMOST A HARD LINE THE WAY I'M SEEING IT.
I MEAN, THIS IS A MASSIVE SUBDIVISION EVEN IN, IN A, IN A COUNTY LIKE CHESTERFIELD.
BUT IN DENWOODY, AS RURAL AS WE ARE, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A HUGE, A HUGE DEVELOPMENT TO GO TO A TRANSITION ZONE.
AND THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE IF THIS IS GONNA BE OUR TRANSITION ZONE, WHAT IS OUR SUBURBAN ZONE GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO GOING FORWARD, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE AND THINGS THAT, THAT'S THE STUFF THAT KIND OF CONCERNS ME.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT AGAIN HERE TONIGHT.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO DISAPPROVE THIS, AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO UPHOLD THAT AND DISAPPROVE THIS AS WELL.
BOARD MEMBERS, THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS I, UM, IF I, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OF THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.
AND I I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE COUNTY GROW, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN AROUND COUNTY A LONG TIME IN THE SUBJECT BUSINESS, PLUMBING AND HEATING BUSINESS AND TRYING TO PUT 77
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SEPTIC TANKS, 77 WELLS ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.AND, UH, AND PART OF THAT PROPERTY AS EVEN ON MY SIDE OF THE NASH ROAD IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.
IT'S A GOOD, IT IS A GOOD AREA OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ALSO IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY, UH, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY A LOT OF LOTS.
SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT I NEED TO VOICE MY OPINION AND, UH, I, I THINK A SUBDIVISION IS FINE WITH CITY WATER AND SEWER, BUT, BUT NOT ON WELLING SEPTICS.
UM, IF YOU GO, IF YOU THINK BACK YEARS AGO, IF YOU REMEMBER HENSHAW VILLAGE, THEY CRAMMED A LOT OF HOUSES IN A SMALL AREA AND PEOPLE HAD HAD SEWER WATER FLOATING IN THE BACKYARD.
UM, SO EY FOUND, RAN CITY WATER AND SEWER RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK, UH, INSTALLING CITY WATER AND SEWER ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, UH, PROBABLY GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY.
I DON'T, I'M SURE THAT THE, THE SEWER SYSTEM WILL HANDLE IT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT I THINK IT'S A, A WISE THING TO INVEST IN WATER AND SEWER NOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT.
'CAUSE IT CERTAINLY WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
SO, UM, I JUST, UM, THOUGHT I'D ADD MY THOUGHTS AND, AND HOPE THAT YOU, UH, WILL CONSIDER ALL THOSE THINGS IN YOUR DECISION.
I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CANDIDATE OR STAFF OR, NO, I'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS GO, BUT IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A QUESTION MM-HMM
I DON'T, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANNA SAY APPLICANT WANTS TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON SAY COMMENTS.
UM, JUST RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, WE, WE THINK THAT 77 LOTS OVER 184 ACRES, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO PLUS ACRES, UM, A LOT, UM, IS, IS NOT A MASSIVE SUBDIVISION OR A LARGE SUBDIVISION.
IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE, UH, SMALL.
AND, UM, WE, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WITH THE REQUEST FROM A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WHERE WATER AND SEWER ARE NOT AVAILABLE, THAT SEPTIC TANKS AND WELLS ARE WELL WITHIN, UM, THAT REQUEST.
UM, IF WATER AND SEWER WERE BOTH REQUIRED TO BE RUN, THE COST WOULD BE, UH, FAIRLY ENORMOUS MM-HMM
AND, UM, WITH THAT, I DO THINK THIS WILL BE A QUALITY PROJECT FOR DENWOODY COUNTY AND I THINK IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT DENWOODY WILL BE VERY PROUD OF TO HAVE IN PROXIMITY TO ITS COURTHOUSE.
UM, COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, AND, UM, TO MR. CHAMBERS AND MR. ANETTE, UM, THE, THE COMP PLAN IS, IS A GUIDE AND IT'S NOT A HARD LINE IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.
UM, SO I RESPECT, UM, WHERE YOU'RE HEADED WITH THAT.
BUT, UM, PART OF WHAT IN MY MIND WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS CREATE A QUALITY SUBDIVISION WITHIN PROXIMITY TO OUR SERVICES.
AND THE NUMBER ONE SERVICE I THINK THAT YOU GET WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS RIGHT ONE.
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AS SOON, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A MILE OF THE SUBDIVISION, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON RIGHT.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE MOVED IT DOWN NASH ROAD, I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
THE SECOND THING, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN 10 YEARS AGO NOW, DISTRICT, UM, FIVE WAS THE NUMBER ONE GROWTH AREA IN DENWOODY COUNTY, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN END OF DENWOODY.
AND THEN WHEN THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN STARTED, NUMBER ONE DISTRICT IN GROWTH IN DENWOODY WAS DISTRICT FOUR.
AND WE LOOKED AT A MAP THE OTHER NIGHT, UM, AT THE GROWTH THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR OF DENWOOD COUNTY.
AND IF I COULD GET MY SHOTGUN TO SHOOT THAT PATTERN THAT WAS ON THE PAPER, IT, IT WOULD BE A NICE PATTERN, BUT IT STILL A SHOTGUN PATTERN ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, I WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL, UH, ON FACE VALUE.
AND IF THERE COMING TO DENWOODY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THEM, UM, IF THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION, TO LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION INSTEAD OF THREE AND FIVE ACRES SCATTERED ACROSS THE RURAL PART OF DENWOODY COUNTY.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO BUY ACREAGE IN THE RURAL PART OF DENWOODY, THAT TO ME, THAT'S A GREAT THING TOO.
SO LET'S GET BACK TO THIS CASE.
UM, WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT COMES TO THIS COUNTY, UM, AND, AND THIS, THESE DEVELOPERS PURCHASED TURKEY RUN SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ON TURKEY EGG ROAD.
AND I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME AND WE FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET THAT DEVELOPMENT, 1750 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.
AND THE WAY THE ROADS WERE PUT IN, THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY LAID OFF HOMES SO THEY WEREN'T IN EACH OTHER'S BACK DOOR, REALLY KINDA CAME UP WITH A GOOD PROJECT.
SO WE STARTED WITH ROCK RIVER AND REALLY DIDN'T SEE A PRODUCT, UM, OTHER THAN, WHAT WAS IT, TURKEY RUN, WHICH WAS SOMEBODY ELSE HAD SET IT ALL UP.
THEY JUST BUILT S SO I THINK THEY BUILT A GOOD HEIST.
I'M, I'M PLEASED WITH, WITH THE S THEY BUILT.
BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SUBDIVISION, I WANNA SEE SOME AMENITIES.
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ALLOW US FOR YOU TO COME TO DENWOODY COUNTY AND DO A QUALITY PROJECT? AND I'VE SEEN NO PICTURES.
UM, WE WERE ASKED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES TO GO LOOK AT SOME PROJECTS THAT HAD SOME STREETS.
AND, UM, I ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING TO IMMEDIATELY CONTACT OUR LEGAL, UM, OFFICE, WHICH YOU DID.
UM, BUT THEN WHEN WE ASKED QUESTIONS, THEY WEREN'T ANSWERED.
UM, SO FOR US TO GO FORWARD AND FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS SUBDIVISION, I CAN'T, UM, AND WON'T, UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPERS BUILDING HOUSES ON LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLOTTED BACK IN THE FIFTIES AND THEY'RE SCATTERED EVERYWHERE IN DENWOODY.
AND IT'S NOT A, I WON'T SAY THE WORD I WANT TO SAY THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
UM, AND SO THAT STRESSES OUR WHOLE SYSTEM, EMERGENCY SERVICES, UM, EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE I'S NEED TO BE DOTTED T'S NEED TO BE CROSSED.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT RIGHT HERE TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? I, I'LL JUST SPEAK FOR
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MYSELF.UM, I THINK WE STILL GOT SOME HOMEWORK TO DO, UM, IN PARTICULAR FOR MYSELF.
'CAUSE I, I WANT TO GO AND SEE THOSE ROADS.
I WANT TO GO TO PRINCE EDWARD AND GO UP TO, TO BLACKSTONE.
AND ONCE I KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ADDRESS AND WE'VE GOT IT IN THE MINUTES, I'M GONNA GO SEE IT.
SO, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO, MR. CHAIRMAN, BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 7, IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.
I MOVE THAT REZONING P 23 DASH FOUR AS AS PRESENTED, BE DIS DISAPPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL MR. MOODY.
ALL VOTING? AYE UH, MANY RECOURSE AS WE GO FORWARD FROM HERE? I KNOW WE GOT DISAPPROVAL, SO MR. SOUTH HALL, MR. SOUTHALL, ANY FOR, FOR THE CLIENT THEMSELVES, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GOT DISAPPROVAL HERE? WHAT, SO YOU'VE GOT THIS, WHAT WOULD THEIR RECOURSE GOING FORWARD? YOU'VE GOT DISAPPROVAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY THE RULES WORK, THE, THE APPLICANT IS ALLOWED TO BRING ANOTHER, A APPLICATION AFTER SIX MONTHS HAVE GONE BY, BUT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DISAPPROVED TONIGHT.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT.
[14.B. Rezoning Request, P-23-5, Roslyn Farm Corporation ]
WE, OUR SECOND CASE TONIGHT IS REZONING REQUEST P 23 DASH FIVE ROSLYN FARM CORPORATION AND MR. BASSETT IS GONNA PRESENT THAT THIS EVENING.UH, THE REZONING REQUEST WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING AGAIN, IS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS ROLIN FARM CORPORATION AND, UH, NICK WALKER'S HERE FROM ROLAND FARM CORPORATION AS WELL AS FIELDING QUARRELS, UH, WITH ROLAND FARM CORPORATION TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE REQUEST IS FOR THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, UH, HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS APPLIED TO IT.
UH, THE PORTION THAT'S NEXT TO RON'S MUFFLER SHOP THERE AT ROUTE ONE AND HOFHEIMER WAY, UH, THERE'S A SMALL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED M1 INDUSTRIAL LIMITED.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO M TWO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL WITH PROFFERS.
AND AGAIN, UM, THE OVERALL PROPERTIES IS APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES IN SIZE.
OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.
UH, THE IMMEDIATE AREA, ALL THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH IS, UH, ZONED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, UH, WHERE THE DOLLAR GENERAL IS AND WHERE ROSLIN FARMS CORPORATION HAS THE NEWLY BUILT, UH, OFFICE, UH, OFFICE CENTER, UH, THAT WAS REZONED TO B TWO AND 2016.
THEN BEHIND THAT, OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE AGRI NUTRIENTS PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY.
AND THEN, UH, FURTHER EAST OF THE AGRI NUTRIENTS, UH, PRIVATE DRIVE IS, UH, A PROJECT THAT HAS JUST BEEN RECENTLY APPROVED.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
UH, DOMINION ENERGY, UH, IS BUILDING, IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT, UH, PROPANE STORAGE, UH, FACILITY THERE, UH, FOR THEIR, UH, OPERATIONS.
AND THEN AS YOU GO, UH, FURTHER EAST, UH, YOU DO HAVE THE PAMPLIN FOUNDATION PROPERTY THERE.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, UM, THE INDUS, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTY, UH, WHERE HE HAD THE FORMER EDMUNDS TRUCKING, UH, BUSINESS THERE, UH, ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, EVERYTHING BEHIND THERE, YOU DO HAVE LIN, UH, FOUNDATION PROPERTY, UH, TO THE REAR.
AND THEN AS YOU GO, UH, FURTHER WEST TO THE REAR, UM, THE LOWRY PROPERTY, UH, I THINK THAT HAS BEEN
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SOLD RECENTLY, BUT THAT IS SPLIT ZONE AS WELL.UH, M1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, FOR MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, UP FRONT ON ROUTE ONE IS OWNED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL.
UH, SO YOU DO HAVE A, UH, MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY, UH, IN THE AREA IS OWNED, UH, EITHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
AND AS YOU ALL ALSO KNOW, UH, HOFHEIMER WAY WAS, UH, BUILT, UH, YEARS AGO TO ACCESS THEIR GAU AU MARI STEEL PROPERTY, UM, UTILIZING WHAT WAS CALLED BACK THEN THE INDUSTRIAL ROAD ACCESS FUNDS, UH, TO BUILD THAT ROAD.
SO IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT, UM, MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, OVER TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, DEVELOPED INDUSTRIALLY.
UH, AS I INDICATED, THE REQUEST DOES COME WITH PROFFERS AND THERE ARE THREE PROFFER CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE, TO THE PROFFERS.
ONE, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED OWNER AS WELL, UH, TO NOT ALLOW AN AIRPORT ASPHALT MIXING PLANT OR FLEA MARKET ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, TWO, UH, CONDITION NUMBER TWO WOULD BE ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA WILL BE PROPERLY SCREENED.
SO NOT TO BE VISIBLE FROM HEIMER WAY AND THREE ADDRESSES THE LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY LIGHTING INSIDE.
UH, EXCEPT FOR LIGHTING INSIDE THE BUILDINGS, ANY LIGHTING INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DIRECTED DOWNWARD AND INWARD TO THE SITE TO AVOID CASTING LIGHTING ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR INTO THE NIGHT SKY.
UH, LOOKING FURTHER AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS OF COURSE IS IN WITH, IN OUR URBAN AREA, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND, UH, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE, UH, WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA, THE ROUTE ONE AND HOFHEIMER WAY INTERSECTION.
ALSO, WE FEEL LIKE AS SUCH, THE REQUESTED M TWO BUSINESS GENERAL DISTRICT WITH CRAWFORD USES IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AS DEFINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UH, WHEN WE, UH, TOOK THE REQUEST TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE REVIEW AGENCIES, UH, THE M TWO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL WITH PROFFERS, UH, POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, UH, THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS MINIMAL.
UM, THERE WERE NO, UH, ISSUES THAT, UH, WERE BROUGHT FORTH, UH, RELATED TO THE FIRE CODE BUILDING CODE REGULATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE PROPERTY, PUBLIC WATER, PUBLIC SEWER, UH, AS WELL AS NATURAL GAS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE SITE.
UH, LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, BY THE APPLICANT, VDOT INDICATED THAT A 5 27, UH, TRA TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ASSESSMENT, UH, IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, ALSO THEY ESTIMATED, UH, THAT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME OF, UH, UH, THE AVERAGE TRAFFIC VOLUME, UH, CURRENTLY IS ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, HEIMER WAY IS ESTIMATED AT 2,800 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY.
AGAIN, THE ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED, UH, AS, UH, ACCESS ROAD, UH, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND TO ACCOMMODATE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UH, PDOT INDICATED THAT THE, THE ROAD IS SUITABLE FOR PROPOSED ZONING AND ASSOCIATED USES, UH, WHEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.
ALL FUTURE TRANSPORTATION RELATED IMPROVEMENTS FOR ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE'LL HAVE TO MEET VDOT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
UH, AS SUCH, UH, PLANNING STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UH, APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION M TWO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL WITH PROFFERS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.
AND THE PROPOSED USE CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED IN THE URBAN AREA AS SET FORTH IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS GENERAL AREA.
UH, AT LAST MONTH'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,
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UH, THEY DID HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE REQUEST.UM, AND THEY ULTIMATELY DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
UM, MR. TUS, JUST TO NOTE, DID VOTE NO, UM, RELATED TO THE REZONING WITH THE PROFFERS? UM, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES HE HAD WAS, UH, ONE OF THE USES ALLOWED IN THE M1 M TWO DISTRICT IS, UH, SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITIES.
AND, UM, I THINK HE FELT LIKE, UM, THE REZONING, UH, AS PRESENTED WOULD ALLOW THAT.
UM, SO HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE USE UNDER, UNDER THAT ZONING.
SO HE DIDN'T FEEL, UH, COMFORTABLE, UH, REZONING THE PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF HIS MAIN ISSUES WITH THE REZONING REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF AT THIS TIME? YOU QUESTIONS TO STAFF? YEAH.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS THE CASE? GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS FIELD QUARLES WITH THE RISEN FARM CORPORATION.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT APPLICANT? UH, ONLY QUESTION I HAVE AT THIS TIME IS, IS IS THERE ANY INTERESTED CLIENT IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? I WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A FEW LOOKING.
I THINK, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A BETTER SUIT FOR THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT JUST KIND OF CURIOUS.
THERE IS A FEW THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS GO THROUGH AND WE'LL BE CONTACTING THEM AFTERWARDS.
AND, AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS 'CAUSE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, IT'S SAT HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND NOW WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON IT.
SO THAT MAKES ME THINK THAT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEBODY THAT IS LOOKING AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, TO PUT PEOPLE TO WORK.
AND THAT'S MY COMMENT THAT I, WHEN I, YOU KNOW, YES SIR.
THAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO BE MORE MARKETABLE TO THOSE, UH, HIGH HEAVY MANUFACTURERS, TO BRING THEM TO DINWITTY AND THEN DRIVE REVENUE, DRIVE JOBS, DRIVE MORE PROJECTS.
UM, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE A STATEMENT, UH, FOR ME, UM, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT SELF-STORAGE WOULD BE A LAST RESORT INSTEAD OF A FIRST RES RESORT.
SO IF A SELF-STORAGE IS, IS WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR IT, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT THERE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I KNOW YOU WANNA KEEP IT IN YOUR PROFFERS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT, UM, AND YOU AND ROLY PALMS HAS A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD IN DEWEY COUNTY AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.
THE, THE GOAL AS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT TO DO THAT.
WE'VE HAD THIS SINCE I BELIEVE THE EIGHTIES, IF NOT EARLIER.
UM, AND OF ALL OF OUR OVER 2000 ACRES, WE'VE NEVER DONE SELF STORAGE BEFORE.
NOW OBVIOUSLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IT'S REALLY REVAMPED.
UM, BUT TO THAT POINT, WE HAVE NOT DONE IT PRIOR TO THIS.
I LIKE THE FIRST STATEMENT, INDUSTRIES TO BRING JOBS.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SELF STORAGE IS THERE'S NO JOBS, YOU KNOW, SO I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, WE NEED JOBS AND I'M FOR THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, AND YOU LOOK RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD NOW AND SEE WHAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE YOU GOT ON GREATER ROAD, MY GOODNESS, IT'S TOOK A WHOLE FARM ALMOST AND TURNED INTO SELF STORAGE AND RIGHT HERE ON FOUR 60, I KNOW IT'S A GOING THING.
UH, BUT YOUR FIRST STATEMENT IMPRESSED ME AND THEN IT SORT OF TOOK A CURVE.
IT, IT'D BE GREAT TO SAY GERAL.
I BELIEVE IT USED TO BE HILLCREST AGRO NUTRIENT AND THEN X, Y, Z CORP.
THAT LOOKS GOOD, RIGHT? ALL OF THAT IS, AND, UM, WORKED HARD TO MAKE THAT LOOK THAT WAY.
AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT A DORMANT, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, TO ME NOW, I, I KNOW IT'S DOLLARS FOR THE OWNER, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M FOR JOBS, SO I LIKE YOUR FIRST STATEMENT.
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ANY OTHER, I JUST, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.UM, WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THE CODE.
WHAT OTHER USES ARE AN M TWO THAT ARE NOT AN M1? I KNOW YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING IN M TWO THAT YOU CAN DO M1, BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO IN M TWO THAT, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN M1? IS THAT MM-HMM
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS IF YOU
EVIDENTLY, UH, SELF STORAGE IS ALLOWED IN M TWO AND NOT IN M1.
SO THEREFORE, AS YOU INDICATED, ALL THE USES IN M1 ARE ALLOWED IN M TWO.
SO SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY WOULD BE ALLOWED IN MM ONE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ANOTHER POINT.
UM, THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY ZONED M1, SO THEY COULD DO MANY STORAGE NOW.
UH, TRUCK TERMINALS ARE ALLOWED, UM, WOOD, PRE WOOD PRESERVING OPERATIONS, ABATTOIRS ACID MANUFACTURING, CEMENT, CONCRETE LIME AND GYPSUM MANUFACTURING, FERTILIZER MANUFACTURING, UH, WHICH IS SORT OF RELATED TO WHAT AGGRO NUTRIENTS DOES CURRENTLY.
UH, PETROLEUM REFINING, UH, PETROLEUM STORAGE, ASPHALT MIXING PLANT, UH, SAWMILLS PLANING MILLS, PIPE AND PUMP MANUFACTURING, BRICK MANUFACTURING BOILER SHOPS, UH, MEAT AND POULTRY AND FISH PROCESSING.
UM, PUBLIC UTILITY, UH, USES, UH, GAME PRESERVES CONSERVATION AREAS.
UH, OTHER ACCESSORY USES PUBLIC AIRPORTS, GOVERNMENTAL OFFICES, UH, MANUFACTURING AND ASSEMBLING, UH, PRINTING INKS AND RELATED PROJECTS.
UH, PRODUCTS, UH, MANUFACTURERS OUTLET STORES ASSOCIATED WITH MANUFACTURING AND, UH, COMPONENT ASSEMBLY, PRODUCT DISTRIBUTION, UH, CO-GENERATION, UH, MACHINERY AND MANUFACTURING.
UH, PROCESSING, BLENDING AND PACKAGING, UH, GREEN AND UH, TOBACCO RELATED PRODUCT PRODUCTS.
UH, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, INDOOR ATHLETIC AND FITNESS FACILITIES.
UH, PUBLIC UTILITY GENERATING THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER USES THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
BUT TO CLARIFY THAT THE STORAGE IS ALLOWED IN BOTH DISTRICTS.
THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A FEW MORE CHOICES AND HOPEFULLY THE CHOICES WILL BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO, UH, JOBS AND FOR THE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND ALL.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, PERFECT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, HEARING NOW, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
UM, I'M, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CLARIFICATION BETWEEN M1 AND M TWO WHEN IT COMES TO SELF STORAGE, UM, BECAUSE I, THAT'S MY BIGGEST HEARTBURN WITH, WITH THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PIECE HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BUILT THE ROAD WAS BUILT MANY YEARS AGO.
IT'S GOT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR THE, FOR THE PERFECT CLIENT TO COME IN THERE.
AND I, I ROSALYN FARMS, UH, HAS BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBOR, NOT JUST TO DENWITY COUNTY, BUT TO THE WHOLE TRI-CITY AREA.
SO, UM, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING.
ALL THE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
GO, UH, BE IT RESOLVED IN AN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN STATE, THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH 23 DASH FIVE AS PRESENTED, BE APPROVED WITH THE PROFFERS BY THE BOARD.
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ROLL CALL MR. MOODY.[14.C. Amendment To Dinwiddie County Code Section 19-5 ]
TO ITEM NUMBER C AND ITS AMENDMENT TO THE DIMITY COUNTY CODE SECTION 19 DASH FIVE AND WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE WITH US THIS EVENING.CHAIRMAN MOORE BOARD MEMBERS, MR. MASSENGILL, UM, IF Y'ALL RECALL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, UM, CAME BEFORE Y'ALL IN A WORKSHOP REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION NINE 19 DASH FIVE, UH, WHERE THAT WILL MODIFY OUR FILING DATE FROM FEBRUARY 15TH TO MARCH 1ST.
THAT COINCIDES WITH OUR BUSINESS LICENSE DUE DATE AND I BELIEVE WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM, UM, MAKING THINGS A A LITTLE MORE SIMPLER IN MY OFFICE, IT ALLOWS US THIS ADDITIONAL TIME, UM, FROM A PROCESSING POINT OF VIEW, IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE TO DO THE FILING.
UM, SOMETIMES THAT GETS CONFUSING FOR FOLKS THE FEBRUARY 15TH VERSUS THE MARCH ONE BUSINESS LICENSE FILING DATE.
SO JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER ON, ON THAT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOLKS AND UM, AND ALSO THE FOLKS WHO HAVE TO FILE FOR AIRPLANES AND, UH, MOBILE HOMES.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, JUST A CHANGE OF A DATE? JUST A CHANGE OF A DATE? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
HEARING AND WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
SO WE'VE GOT JUST A BASIC CHANGE OF A DATE HERE FROM FEBRUARY THE 15TH TO MARCH THE FIRST OF ENTER MOTION.
BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED THAT THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED AS PRESENTED.
[14.D. Amendment To Dinwiddie County Code Section 19-124 ]
D AS AMENDMENT TO DIMITY COUNTY CODE SECTION 19 DASH 1 24.MS. STEVENS, GOOD EVENING AGAIN,
UM, AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 5TH I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU ALL THE, UM, CHANGE IN 58, 1 35 0 5 WHERE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALSO INCORPORATED THE TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS, HOOP HOUSES AND CIVIL CULTURAL FORESTRY TYPE EQUIPMENT THAT UNDER LOCAL ORDINANCE MAY BE EXEMPTED.
THE OTHER ITEMS IN THAT CURRENT SECTION HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN EXEMPTED, WHICH INCLUDE YOUR FARM EQUIPMENT, GRAINS, HORSES, CATTLE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO THIS IS MERELY, UM, JUST KEEPING UP WITH WHAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS ALLOWED US TO DO.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN A APPROACHED ABOUT, UM, EXEMPTING CIVIL CULTURE AND FORESTRY EQUIPMENT, SO, UM, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS BEFORE YOU ALL.
LET'S HONOR ONE QUICK QUESTION.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES THAT ARE LICENSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU LAURA.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION FOR THIS CASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. MASSAL, I'M RON JENKINS WITH VIRGINIA LOGGERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, WE BRING OUR GRATITUDE AND OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOU BRINGING THIS UP.
THERE ARE LOGGERS ON BEHALF OF REALLY ALMOST 340 BUSINESSES ACROSS VIRGINIA.
THEY RECOGNIZE, AND AS I DO, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR VISION FOR YOUR COUNTY AND LOGGING AND LOGGERS ARE JUST PART OF YOUR RURAL COMPONENT AND IT'S VERY NECESSARY.
YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK BEFORE, SO I I I JUST WOULD SAY IF THERE'S ANY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER, BUT WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL FIND APPROVAL AND, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS TONIGHT.
BOARD OF CITY CHAIRMAN, MR. MASTER BILL, MR. BOARD IRVING MEYER.
UM, I GUESS I'M OWNER OPERATOR AND EVERYTHING OF
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MEYER FORESTRY AND WOOD.WHEN I STARTED MY BUSINESS AFTER I RETIRED FROM CORPORATE AMERICA, AS PEOPLE WOULD SAY, MY GOAL WAS TO EDUCATE AND HELP LANDOWNERS SPECIFICALLY IN THIS COUNTY TO MEET THEIR GOALS ON FOREST MANAGEMENT.
NOW WITH THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE LOGGERS.
AND SO THE OTHER THING IS AS FORESTRY IS AGRICULTURE, CIVIL, CIVIL CULTURE PRACTICES IS AGRICULTURE.
IT'S JUST A LONGER TERM CROP THAN WHAT YOU HAVE ON BEANS, CORN, AND OTHER THINGS.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS THIS TO ENCOURAGE THE JOBS TO COME TO THE COUNTY AND WITH AG, WITH CIVIL CULTURE PLUS THE FACT KEEP DI WOODY RULE BY FOREST MANAGEMENT.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CASE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LOOK NO FURTHER THAN FOOD BOND IN THE MORNING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK TILL LIKE NINE O'CLOCK AT THE LOG TRUCKS GETTING FUEL AND EVERY ONE OF 'EM IS GOING INSIDE BUYING SOMETHING TOO.
UH, MOST OF THESE GUYS ARE, ARE JUST HARDWORKING GUYS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND SPENDING MOST OF THE MONEY BACK IN THE COMMUNITY ANYWAY.
SO I'M NOT SURE WE'VE GIVEN UP A WHOLE LOT FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
UM, TO, TO KEEP THE LOCAL ONES.
I MEAN, UM, A LOT OF 'EM YOU SEE UP FROM BRUNSWICK COUNTY BUT TO SPENDING MONEY IN, IN THEN WE OF THOSE TRUCKS, BUT STILL THE LOCAL LOGS, UH, A GOOD, YOU KNOW, GOOD BUSINESS IN EMITY COUNTY.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, I, MR. CHAIRMAN, BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED THAT THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED AS PRESENTED.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL.
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ITEM NUMBER 15.WE HAVE UH, ONE APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING I BELIEVE AND THAT'S CORRECT MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NEED A, UH, AN APPOINTMENT, A REAPPOINTMENT TO THE CRATER PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO APPOINT BILL CHAVIS TO A TERM, UM, TO EXPIRE AT 9 30 20 24.
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ANNETTE CITIZEN'S COMMENT AND, UM, I'LL OPEN THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.AND WHO DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP THIS EVENING? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE VICKY RIZZO.
ALRIGHT, VICKY RIZZO 2 4 3 0 1 DRIVE ROAD.
GREETINGS, I GREW UP, I'M GONNA SPEAK TO YOU FROM MY HEART.
IT'S WRITTEN DOWN, BUT IT'S FROM MY HEART.
I GREW UP IN DEWITTE COUNTY, BUT THEN I LEFT FOR 30 YEARS.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVED IN THE RICHEST COUNTY IN VIRGINIA.
THE MEDIAN PRICE OF A HOUSE IS OVER $700,000 AMENITIES.
AS FAR AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A WONDERFUL LIFE THERE AND WE CHOSE TO LEAVE THAT LIFE TO COME TO DEN WITTY.
UM, OFTEN PEOPLE AT THESE MEETINGS, YOU HEAR 'EM SPEAK OF WAY OF LIFE, PROTECTING THEIR WAY OF LIFE, PRESERVING THEIR WAY OF LIFE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING AND PRESERVING WAY OF LIFE ISSUES, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS, THIS BOARD ONLY APPLIES THAT TO CERTAIN AREAS.
NORTH D WITTY RESIDENTS OR JUST LIKE THOSE OTHER RESIDENTS, MOSTLY IN THE RURAL AREAS, THEY'RE JUST LIKE THOSE RESIDENTS.
WE WORK HARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE WORKED HARD TO HAVE A WAY OF LIFE.
AND I JUST WISH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART THAT THIS BOARD WOULD KNOW AND APPRECIATE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE COMP PLAN.
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WHERE THE PROTECTION FOR NORTH D WITTY IS IN THIS COMP PLAN.I SEE IT IN OTHER AREAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS FOR US.
WHAT IS THE PLAN THAT'S GONNA PROTECT OUR WAY OF LIFE? THIS BOARD REPEATEDLY STEERS AND APPROVES DESIRABLE PRODUCTS TO PROJECTS, TO OTHER AREA AREAS, PROTECTS THE OTHER DISTRICTS FROM THE LESS DESIRABLE PROJECTS AND USE NORTH END WITTY AS A DUMPING GROUND.
AND YOU USE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A SHIELD SET IN STONE, NOT SET IN STONE.
NORTH END WITTY IS A DENSELY POPULATED AREA.
I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT STUPID.
DOES THIS BOARD WANT A DENSELY POPULATED AREA TO DETERIORATE OR AND DECLINE OR YOU WANT IT TO THRIVE? YOU HAVE THAT POWER TO CHOOSE WHICH PATH NORTH D WITTY IS GOING.
WE ARE AT AN INFLECTION POINT AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE POWER TO CHOOSE THAT PATH.
SO I CHALLENGE EACH OF YOU GO OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR AREA AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK OF NORTH D WITTY.
IT WILL BE EYE-OPENING TO YOU.
I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR AREA.
I DO HAVE A HOPE AND A VISION OF NORTH END WITTY.
THAT NORTH END WITTY COULD BE A POTENTIAL CROWN JEWEL OF THE COUNTY.
IT CAN GROW HEALTHY, STRONG, PROSPEROUS, AND BE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY IF ONLY WE HAD PEOPLE IN POWER THAT HAD THAT BIG VISION.
ALSO, INSTEAD OF JUST ALWAYS LOOKING TO PROTECT THE WAY OF LIFE OF CERTAIN PEOPLE IN CERTAIN AREAS UNDER THE GUISE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PLEASE LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
MAUREEN JONES, 49 0 3 STERLING ROAD.
MORE THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED PROTECTION FROM CRIME OVERCROWDING, SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS TRAFFIC SITUATIONS, PROPERTY DEVALUATION, INTRUSION ON THEIR PRIVACY.
A WOMAN IN THE SOUTHERN BLOCK DISTRICT DESPERATE TO PRESERVE HER GENERATIONAL FAMILY LAND FINDS A WAY TO DO SO FOR SEVERAL MORE GENERATIONS.
AND THE SA AT THE SAME TIME GIVE A HAND UP TO THE COUNTY WITH A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO PROVIDE DESPERATELY NEEDED EMERGENCY SERVICES OR BUILD A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT THE TREACHEROUS INTERSECTION AT FERNDALE AND RIVER ROAD SOUTHERN BLOCK SAID NO.
THAT KIND OF SOLAR STUFF BELONGS IN NORTH DEN.
WITTY ENTREPRENEURS ASKED TO USE THE LAND THEY WISH TO PURCHASE IN THE SOUTHERN BLOCK DISTRICT FOR A WELL BUFFERED PLANNED RV PARK.
SOUTHERN BLOCK SAYS NO WITH MR. LEE SPECIFICALLY SAYING HE ENVISIONS HIGH-END HOMES ON LARGE ACRE LOTS NEAR HIM.
WHEN A HOME BUILDER PRESENTS A PLAN ON THAT TO BUILD ON THAT SAME ACREAGE, SOUTHERN BLOCK DEFER WITH MR. LEE SPECIFICALLY SAYING HE WANTS MORE LUXURY AROUND HIM.
THE OBVIOUS PATTERN HERE IS THAT THE SOUTHERN BLOCK STICKS TOGETHER FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND THEIR FRIEND'S BENEFIT.
AND NO ONE CAN BEAT THAT BLOCKADE.
ALL OTHERS OUTTA STEP WITH THEM SHALL BE SUPPRESSED.
IF YOU PAUSE AND LISTEN, YOU CAN HEAR THE BULLDOZERS WARMING UP RIGHT NOW TO DESTROY NORTH IN WITTY JUST AFTER THE ELECTIONS AND SHOOT DOWN THE HOPES OF ANYONE THAT DOESN'T ENRICH THE LIVES OF TEAM GAMMON GATE OR THE SOUTHERN BLOCK.
UH, ABOUT 10 MONTHS AGO OR SO, A LITTLE LESS.
I WAS IN AT THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AND I WAS SEEKING A SETBACK FOR, UH, THE AGRICULTURAL AND NON-CONFORMING AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS BESIDE ME.
THAT'S THE VINEYARD THAT, UH, THAT'S RUN BY TEBOW UH, ENTERPRISES.
THAT WAS CAUSED BECAUSE WE HAD GOTTEN MULTIPLE TESTS FROM V DS SHOWING THAT THEY HAD BEEN PESTICIDE TRESPASSING ON MY PROPERTY.
AND WE JUST RECEIVED THE LAST TEST.
AND MR. MOORE, YOU HAD, I SENT YOU A COPY OF IT AND I SENT MR. MASSING A COPY AND I BELIEVE EVEN MR. SOUTHALL GOT A COPY OF THAT WHERE I HAD REQUESTED THESE SETBACKS AND I'VE HAD NO RESPONSE BACK FROM YOU.
SO JUST RECENTLY I GOT THE LAST SET OF TESTS BACK,
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WHICH WAS A MUCH MORE CONCLUSIVE TEST THAT WAS DONE BY, WHICH INCLUDES SOIL SAMPLES, WHICH ALL TESTED POSITIVE FOR PESTICIDES.SO I'M SEEKING AGAIN HERE FOR YOU AS THE BOARD BECAUSE WHEN I WAS AT THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR PROCEEDS AND MR. CARTER, UM, HAD BOTH INDICATED THAT THAT, UH, TEBOW ENTERPRISES HAD RECEIVED AN EXEMPTION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, THAT VINEYARD.
BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'LL READ RIGHT HERE BECAUSE I HAVE IT, IS THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA, WHICH IS THE ZONING THAT I'M IN AND HE IS IN, IS TO REMAIN IN THE FOLLOWING LEAST INTENSIVE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL CONSERVATION AREAS.
SO A VINEYARD AND MR. LEE, YOU'RE A FARMER OR BELIEVE YOU'RE IN THE AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST INTENSIVE TYPES OF FARMING YOU CAN DO, PERIOD INTENSIVE FARMING IS IS CATEGORIZED BY THREE MAIN THINGS.
HIGH YIELD, VERY HIGH PESTICIDE USE.
AND IT DOES NOT USE A FALLOW FIELD PROGRAM.
SO THIS IS GOING TO, THIS WILL BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH ME.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA ENDURE ANOTHER YEAR OF THIS.
OKAY? THERE, THERE NOT ONLY IS MY WELL IS 106 FEET FROM THAT, FROM THAT LINE.
MY PROPERTY LINE IS 34 FEET FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE, FROM THE CROP LINE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS IT'S ON AN ANGLE, IT'S 22 FEET.
SO IT SLOPES AND YOU KNOW HOW IT RAINS AND THAT'S WHY FAC STARTED DOING THE SOIL TESTING.
SO IT'S CLOSE TO MY, WELL, THIS IS NOT WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
THIS ARE HERE ALL OF YOU FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST SOME.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL RIGHT NOW, THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE OF A BENEFIT THAN OTHERS.
SO I'M ASKING FOR A 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM MY WELL TO THAT CROP LINE AND A HUNDRED FOOT STEP BACK FROM MY PROPERTY LINE TO THE CROP LINE.
I HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AND ARE GONNA COME WITH ME.
AND THE MAGIC NUMBER IS SIX, AS MR. SOUTH HALL KNOWS TO HAVE A CLASS ACTION ON THIS IF IT'S NOT GONNA GET RESOLVED.
BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ON CHEAN BOULEVARD ARE, ARE INTIMIDATED TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU.
BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT I'M DOING.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PROACTIVE ACTION TAKEN, NOT JUST REACTIVE.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REACTIVE AND YOU'VE DONE NOTHING.
I'VE ALSO ASKED MR. MASSENGALE, BECAUSE I'VE SENT HIM THE RESULTS, I'M NOT SURE WHY.
BUT THIS IS A NUISANCE COMPLAINT AND YOU'VE NOT FOLLOWED UP ON IT.
IT'S CLEAR IN COUNTY CODE 15 FIVE DASH A SAYS.
SO I'M VERY UPSET WITH THE WAY THINGS HAVE GONE DOWN.
YOU'VE BEEN, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN RESPONSIVE AT ALL TO MY CONCERNS, MY FAMILY'S HEALTH AND OUR SAFETY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT FOR THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
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BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING? WELL, EXCUSE ME, I'VE GOT A COMMENT FROM MR. YS.
UM, BUT, UM, FOR YOUR PESTI PESTICIDE OR ANY KIND OF COMPLAINT WITH AN AG ENTERPRISE IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, YOU HAVE THE AG STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM TO REACT TO ANY COMPLAINTS THAT YOU HAVE.
THEY WILL COME OUT, THEY WILL DO AN ASSESSMENT.
UM, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A WRITTEN, UM, ASSESSMENT OF THE NEEDS, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, THE STATE HAS AGENCIES TO, TO HELP WITH THOSE THINGS FOR THE FARMER, UM, TO, TO HELP THE FARMER AND TO GIVE THE ADJOINING LANDOWNER, UM, SOME PEACE OF MIND AND, AND SOME RESOLVE.
BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HANDLE AG COMPLAINTS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR, YOUR FIRST, UM, THING IS TO CALL THE AG STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM.
UM, SO RESPECTFULLY, MR. LEE, I HAVE, UH, HAD MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL HIGH RANKING PEOPLE IN VDA CS, MR. GREEN, SEVERAL OF THE OTHER, THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.
AND THIS IS A LAND USE ISSUE AND IT RESIDES WITH THE COUNTY TO RESOLVE VDA.
NO, VDA CS I IS THE, IS THE AUTHORITY THAT COMES TO TEST.
THEY'RE ALSO THE ONES THAT WILL
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COME AND THEY'LL LAY A FINE OUT.BUT THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO, TO UH, IMPOSE BEST FARMING PRACTICES.
WHAT WE NEED, WHAT I NEED IS A SETBACK.
AND THAT'S A ALL I ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY BOARD YOU, ANY COMMENTS AT ALL? NO.
JUST TO REITERATE WHAT MR. LEE AND, AND I THINK BOTH OF YOU ARE RIGHT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
NOW, MR. LEE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE, THE RIGHT TO FARM ACT IS A FEDERAL ACT.
IT IS REGULATED BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA HAS THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES IS V DACS.
ANY AGRICULTURAL DISPUTE GOES TO AG STEWARDSHIP AT THE STATE, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE DO NOT DUPLICATE THAT SERVICE FROM THE STATE.
IT WOULD BE SENSELESS FOR THIS BOARD TO HIRE STAFF TO REGULATE THE STATE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO GET A BUFFER OR A SETBACK, THAT'S A LAND USE DECISION.
BUT WHEN YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT THE AGRICULTURE ON YOUR PROPERTY, SPECIFIC TO THE PESTICIDES AND THE DAMAGE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WERE BEING, YOU KNOW, HELD WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, THAT'S NOT THE, THE COUNTY WHICH HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED NUMEROUS TIMES AND AG STEWARDSHIP CONTACT INFORMATION HAS PROVIDED, BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS IF YOU WISH TO HAVE A, A BUFFER OR A SETBACK.
WELL, WELL I'VE READ THE STATE CODE, THE STATE, THAT'S THE STATE CODE.
I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE YOU, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT CODE.
I'M, I'M NOT, I'M, BUT I'M, I'M TELLING YOU AS WELL THAT, THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT IT SAYS THAT IN THAT IF THERE'S A HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUE AS A RESULT OF AGRICULTURAL, THAT THE, THAT THE AUTHORITY FOR, FOR IMPOSING AND PUTTING IN SETBACKS RESIDES WITH THE COUNTY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING? OKAY, IF NOT, WE HAVE ONE THING ON THE AGENDA.
SO SECOND ROLL CALL MR. MOODY.
ALL VOTING AYE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.