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PLEASE DO

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OTHERWISE, I'LL BE ALL STAND.

HUH? YOU REMAIN STAND.

GOOD EVENING

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYONE.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MAYOR TO ORDER.

WE PLEASE STAND AND IONS TO THE FLAG, THE SILENCE, MAYOR, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION HONOR GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

AMEN.

WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, SIR.

MR. SIMMONS? HERE.

MR. TUSS? HERE.

MR. LANGLEY? HERE.

MR. TUCKER? HERE.

MR. CUNNINGHAM? HERE.

MR. HAYES? HERE.

AND MR. HORRIBLE.

YEAH.

SEVEN MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UH,

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? UH, STAFF HAS NO CHANGES.

MR. CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO CHANGES, I MAKE RECOMMEND TO APPROVE A SECOND.

SECONDED.

MR. LANGLEY? YES.

MR. TUCKER? YES.

MR. SIMMONS? YES.

MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE.

MR. TITMUS? YES.

MR. HAYES? YES.

AND MR. HORRIBLE? YES.

SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING.

AYE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

HAS

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES OR APPROVAL FOR THE, UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES FOR THE MINUTES FROM THE, FROM THE LAST MEETING? IF NOT, I'LL MOVE THE ADOPTION SECOND.

MR. TUS? YES.

MR. SIMMONS? YES.

MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE.

MR. LANGLEY? YES.

MR. TUCKER? YES.

MR. HAYES? YES.

AND MR. HARLE? YES.

SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING A THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE, MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, UM, TO THIS CITIZENS COMMENTS.

PERIOD.

UM, SIR, HAS THERE BEEN ANYONE, UM, SIGNED UP THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT? MR. CHAIR? NO ONE SIGNED UP.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL OPEN AND WE'LL CLOSE IT.

ALL RIGHTY.

OKAY.

NOW WE ARE, UM, READY FOR

[7. PUBLIC HEARING]

A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING THE, THE FIRST CASE, CASE NUMBER, P DASH 25 DASH ONE.

MR. BASSETT.

GOOD EVENING, MS. CHAIR.

PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. GURLEY.

UH, FIRST CASE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING IS P DASH 25 DASH ONE.

UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING THEIR CASE.

UH, THE NING REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.5 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE.

UH, OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE AT THE WRONG YEAH.

PICTURE YOU GOT, THEN WHAT YOU WANT.

THERE WE GO.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS, UH, FRONTAGE ON ROUTE FOUR 60.

AND AGAIN, THE, THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL.

UH, THE REZONING IS AGAIN FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 ACRES.

UM, AND THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO REZONE TO THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED, UH, ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO ALLOW THEM TO, UM, DIVIDE OFF, UM, THAT 1.5 ACRE, UH, ACREAGE, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, SELL THE EXISTING HOME, UM, WITH THE, UH, SURROUNDING LAND AND NOT HAVE TO SELL, UM, THEIR ENTIRE, UH, PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE THERE.

UM, IN ORDER TO, UH, SELL THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, SET FORTH IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS COMPOSED OF CERTAIN QUIET LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PLUS CERTAIN OPEN AREAS WHERE SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT APPEARS LIKELY TO OCCUR.

GIVEN THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS MADE UP OF OPEN AREAS AND STABLE

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SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS ON SIMILARLY SIZED PARCELS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WELL SUITED FOR THE R ONE ZONING AS INDICATED IN THE DENWITY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN WHAT WE CALL THE SUTHERLAND RURAL VILLAGE AREA OF THE NORTHERN DENWITY DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH ALLOWS FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES FOR THIS GENERAL AREA.

THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR LIMITED RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SCALE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA.

UM, LOOKING AT PUBLIC UTILITIES, UH, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED REZONING TO R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED, AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO INCREASE IN DENSITY TO THE PROPERTY ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED WITH THE EXISTING DWELLING, THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE NO GREATER AND THAN THE EXISTING IMPACT UNDER THE A TWO ZONING.

IN ADDITION, THE EXISTING ONSITE WELL AND SEPTIC SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE UTILIZED TO SERVE THE DWELLING .

UM, VDOT DID, UH, INDICATE, UH, IN THEIR LETTER AGAIN, UH, DISCUSSED COX ROAD ROUTE FOUR 60, UM, AND TALKED ABOUT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND VDOT NOTED THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING.

UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OF THE APPROVAL TO REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.

AND TWO, THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE, THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED IN THE SUTHERLAND RURAL VILLAGE AREA OF THE NORTHERN DENWITTY DEVELOPMENT AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

UM, THAT'S ALL STAFF HAS RELATED TO OUR STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

NO, I DON'T HAVE, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE THE OWNER THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? HEY, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS, UH, RAY HELLER.

COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THERE, PLEASE? SURE.

RAY HELLER.

I'M AT, UH, 20,009 COX ROAD SUTHERLAND.

UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS THE PROPERTY OF, UH, MY MOTHER.

AND, UM, SO NOW MY SISTER AND MYSELF AS WELL AS OUR SPOUSES OWN THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANYTHING THAT MR. BASSETT SAID.

WE AGREE TOTALLY WITH THAT.

AND, UH, SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM FOR YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE, WE HAVE, HAVE OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANYONE THERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT THIS TIME.

MR. DY, DID ANYONE SIGN UP? MR. CHAIR? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.

OKAY.

THEN I, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FORWARD I SEE.

TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY, YEAH, UH, ACCEPTANCE.

NOT ACCEPTANCE.

I'LL READ IT.

DO YOU WANNA READ IT? ANY OBJECTION? NO, SIR.

NO, I DON'T.

FINE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY.

WHERE'S THE GREEN? WHERE'S THE GREEN? OVER THERE? B IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN.

IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.

I MOVE THAT REZONING, P 15, P 25 DASH ONE BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

VIC, MR. TUCKER? YES.

MR. SIMMONS?

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YES.

MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE.

MS. LANGLEY? YES.

MR. TITMUS? YES.

MR. HAYES? YES.

AND MR. HARLEY? YES.

SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.

BODE P DASH 25 DASH ONE HAS BEEN SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH AN APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, CASE NUMBER P DASH 25 DASH TWO.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

ARE YOU GOING BACK OR, YEAH, I'M GOING BACK.

.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

UH, MS. CHAIR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO REVIEW, UH, FOUR PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WERE PART OF P DASH 25 DASH TWO THAT YOU HEARD AT YOUR JANUARY 15TH MEETING, UM, DURING YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, WHEN THE PUBLIC NOTICE WENT OUT FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THERE WERE FOUR LOTS THAT WERE PART OF THE OVERALL REZONING REQUEST.

UH, THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

AND THOSE ARE THE, UH, FOUR LOTS.

AGAIN, UH, TWO LOTS ON EACH SIDE OF THE, UM, EXISTING RESIDENCE ALONG SURREY AVENUE THERE.

UM, THOSE FOUR LOTS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

UM, SO WE'RE BRINGING THOSE FOUR LOTS BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

UM, SO THAT THOSE CAN BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE OVERALL REZONING REQUEST.

UH, THAT DID GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THEIR FEBRUARY MEETING.

UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD, UM, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REZONING, NOT NECESSARILY THE PUBLIC NOTICE, UM, BUT JUST QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER THAT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, RELATED TO THE OVERALL REZONING, UM, THAT THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS FURTHER.

SO THEY DEFERRED THEIR REQUEST TO THEIR, UH, MEETING NEXT WEEK, THEIR MARCH 18TH MEETING.

AGAIN, UH, YOU ALL ARE JUST CONSIDERING THESE FOUR LOTS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR YOUR JANUARY 15TH MEETING, UH, WHERE YOU HEARD THE OVERALL REZONING REQUEST.

AGAIN, JUST AS A REFRESHER, UM, THE, UH, OWNER DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING THE REZONING, UH, FROM R ONE RESIDENTIAL TO THE R RU RESIDENTIAL URBAN ZONING CLASSIFICATION, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN CONSOLIDATE, UH, THE LOTS AND DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ON, ON THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

AGAIN, I BELIEVE THE EXISTING RESIDENCE THAT'S ON THE TWO PARCELS, UM, BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, RENOVATING THAT HOUSE AND, UM, IMPROVING THAT HOME AND, UM, MARKETING THAT HOME AS WELL.

UM, PREVIOUS CASES, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL REZONING REQUESTS, REQUESTS, UH, SINCE, UH, 2016 THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ALL THOSE REZONING REQUESTS.

UM, AT YOUR JANUARY MEETING, UH, THE PARCELS, UH, THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE, UM, YOU DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO THE, TO THE REZONING OF THOSE PROPERTIES, UH, TO THE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

UM, JUST AS A REFRESHER, UH, THE PROPERTY, IT IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S LOCATED IN WHEN THE TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND IT WAS EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD HAVE FUTURE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, UH, MEDIUM TYPE DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

ALSO, UM, THESE LOTS AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE GENERAL AREA,

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UH, DO MEET THE PURPOSE AND CHARACTER OF THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN DISTRICT.

UM, WHEN THAT DISTRICT WAS CREATED, IT WAS THOUGHT THAT, UM, FURTHER DEVELOPMENT COULD, UM, HAPPEN IN THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD, UH, LOTS THAT DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

UM, ALSO JUST TO NOTE, UM, YOU HAD DISCUSSION, UM, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT, UH, THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, THE DE WITTY COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY DID INDICATE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE, UM, ABILITY TO SERVICE WATER AND SEWER, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, UM, RELATED TO FURTHER INFILL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY HAD PLENTY OF CAPACITY AND ACTUALLY THAT IN FOR THEIR SERVICE AREA, THEY INDICATED THAT THIS WAS A, A GOOD AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT RELATED TO THEIR, UM, PROVIDING PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, UH, TRANSPORTATION.

JUST TO NOTE, UH, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH VDOT ABOUT OTHER CASES AND THIS CASE, UH, WITHIN THE AREA SINCE YOUR JANUARY MEETING.

AND JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UM, WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE LOTS ALONG A ROAD AND THEY WILL DEVELOP, UH, MORE THAN JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, VDOT WOULD BE ENCOURAGING, UM, THAT THEY SHARE, UM, IF THERE'S TWO HOMES THAT THEY SHARE A DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE ON THE PROPERTY.

JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.

SO AS WE DID WITH THE OTHER LOTS IN THE, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE, UM, REZONING CASE P 25 DASH TWO THAT YOU HEARD IN JANUARY.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION RESIDENTIAL URBAN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.

ADDITIONALLY, THE R RU ZONING DISTRICT WAS CR CREATED TO ACCOMMODATE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING LOTS WITHIN THE URBAN AREA, INCLUDING WEST, THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION, RESIDENTIAL URBAN CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA AS SET FORTH IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE RELATED TO OUR STAFF REPORT.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

THAT HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF PAGAN, AND SIR, IS THAT THE ONE, THE FIRST HOUSE, ARE THEY GOING TO SAID THEY'RE GOING TO REDO THAT HOUSE? IS THAT THE HOUSE THEY'RE GONNA REDO OR THE SECOND HOUSE? IT'S THE SECOND HOUSE IN FROM THE INTERSECTION THERE.

OKAY.

IT'S THE SECOND HOME, NOT THE HOME THAT'S RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION, BUT THE NEXT ONE FURTHER.

SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T OWN THAT HOUSE.

YES, THEY DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

THE, THEY I SEE WANT TO, UH, DO THEY PLAN ON USING SHARED DRIVEWAYS WITH THESE BILLS? UM, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE APPLICANTS.

THEY, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LAND USE PERMIT PROCESS WITH VDOT FOR DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES.

SO, UM, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME.

BUT I HAVE NOT HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT.

SO I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS TOO.

ONE ACTUALLY KIND OF FOLLOWS UP TO THAT.

SO I KNOW WHY VDOT WANTS TO DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.

IT'S TO, IN THEIR VERNACULAR, IT'S TO REDUCE WHAT'S KNOWN AS SIDE FRICTION.

BUT, UM, I ALSO KNOW IN THE PAST, HASN'T THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTY STAFF AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KIND OF DISSUADING THAT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE JUST HAPPY GO LUCKY TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW YOU'VE GOT TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DON'T WANT TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD AN OPINION ON THAT.

I, I, I GUESS ME PERSONALLY, I'M FLEXIBLE EITHER WAY IN THIS PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE IT'S LOW SPEED.

IT'S, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS THERE.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANNA PUT COUNTY STAFF AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN A PREDICAMENT EITHER.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER Y'ALL HAD AN OPINION ON THAT TO COUNTER OR THAT ON.

UH, WE, WE HAVE BEEN FLEXIBLE ON THAT EITHER, EITHER WAY.

UM, SO WE'RE OPEN TO THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS, BUT AS YOU SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN CONFLICTS OVER TIME WITH THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS.

SO, SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, YOU MENTIONED THERE

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WAS SOME CONCERN REGARDLESS OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ISSUE, THERE WAS A CONCERN AT THE BOARD MEETING.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WAS.

YEAH.

UH, RELATED TO THE BOARD.

UM, I CAN GO TO THE, ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING.

I DUNNO WHY THIS ISN'T YES.

THAT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP, UM, TOP PORTION OF THE SLIDE UP, UH, THE, THE FURTHEST PROPERTY TO THE NORTH ON ROUTE ONE.

RIGHT.

UM, THAT'S NEXT TO THE, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE AUTO BODY, UH, SHOP THERE.

UM, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THOSE LOTS, UM, AND DRAINAGE.

THE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN THE PROPERTY AND NOW ARE LEASING IT OUT TO THE, THE CURRENT BUSINESS OWNER, UM, JUST HAD CONCERNS, DRAINAGE CONCERNS THERE, AND WE'RE ASKING ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE.

UM, SO THAT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD MEETING REALLY.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER MAIN TOPIC WAS THAT, UM, MS. BONNER, THIS IS HER, UH, BOARD MEMBER DISTRICT AND SHE HAD, I, I GUESS, HAD COMMENTS FROM, UM, INDIVIDUALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS SOME WHO WERE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT, UM, LIVE OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY, SOME OF THEM JUST HAD COMMENTED THAT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THE REZONING REQUEST AND, UM, PUBLIC NOTICE TYPE ISSUES.

UM, IT WAS NOTED AT THE BOARD MEETING THAT EVERYTHING WAS PROPERLY NOTICED FOR THE BOARD MEETING AND, UM, THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD, BUT THEY JUST WANTED TO, UM, THEY ENDED UP DEFERRING THE CASE AND WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FURTHER INTERACTION IN THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THEY HEAR THE CASE NEXT WEEK AT THEIR, AT THEIR MEETING.

ALSO, FOR YOUR ALL'S INFORMATION, WE'RE HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD AT, UH, THE CHURCH THERE.

UM, MS. BONNER REQUESTED TO HAVE THAT MEETING.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH MS. BONNER TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETING AND HOPEFULLY JUST FURTHER EXPLAIN, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE DISTRICT AND THE RU DISTRICT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT EXISTING PROPERTIES.

YOU CAN'T, UH, DO ANY EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING HOMES ON THE EXISTING PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE NONCONFORMING.

YOU CAN'T MEET SETBACKS.

SO THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD IMPROVE AN EXISTING HOME WOULD BE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE REZONING PROCESS TO THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN, UM, SO THAT YOU AT LEAST ON A LIMITED BASIS, BE ABLE TO ADD ON TO YOUR HOME, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, SET TIME TYPE OF THING, AND STILL MEET ZONING SETBACKS.

AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK TO 'EM ABOUT, UM, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE LOTS IN WEST PETERSBURG WITH HOMES ON THEM.

THE HO THE HOMES ARE LOCATED ON TWO LOTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AN, UM, UNUSUAL FOR A HOME TO BE DEVELOPED ON TWO LOTS IN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT MANY OF THE EXISTING HOMES.

AGAIN, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED ON, UM, TWO LOTS, UH, WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.

SO FOLLOW UP TO YOUR AUTO BODY, IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, BROADLY SPEAKING, IS THAT THE L-SHAPED? YES, YES.

SO IS IT, I'M GUESSING IT'S UP ON HIGHER GROUND, THE CONCERN IS DRAINAGE BACK TO THE, THE PROPOSED TO THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? YES.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, IF IT WAS DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL OF THE, OF THE APPLICANT CONSIDERING A PROFFER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS? NO, THERE WERE NO PROFFERS DISCUSSED BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING ALLOWED, I KNOW FROM OTHER ISSUES IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, NOBODY WANTS TO GET WATER PUT ON, I HATE TO Y'ALL PUT UP A HOUSE AND SOMEBODY BUYS IT, AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER THERE'S A 20 YEAR FLOOD, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER, AND YOU GOT WATER COMING DOWN ON 'EM AND THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT IT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO CONVEY A, A WAY THAT MAYBE Y'ALL COULD ADDRESS THAT, THAT THAT'S KIND OF MY THINKING ON THAT.

YEAH.

WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IF AND WHEN THE PROPERTY'S DEVELOPED.

AND, UM, SO MY, MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR DUE DILIGENCE IS TO ENCOURAGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO IT JUST DOESN'T, YOU KNOW,

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COME UP BY HAPPENSTANCE AND THERE'S SOME CONFLICT LATER.

MM-HMM .

IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WATER IN THAT SPOT DOWN FROM WHERE THE BODY SHOP IS.

I PASS THAT PART EVERY DAY, AND WHEN IT RAINS THAT WATER IS SOMETIMES COMING OUT INTO THE ROAD.

SO THAT IS AN ISSUE.

YEAH.

WE JUST EXPLAINED TO THE BOARD THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY, IF THE PROPERTY AND WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT, WHERE'S THE TEETH THEN, THOUGH, I GUESS IS MY POINT REALLY? TECHNICALLY, EVEN WITH PROFFERS, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROFFER YOU WOULD MAKE BECAUSE THERE'S NO, I WAS GONNA LOOK, I MEAN, I MEAN OUT OUTSIDE OF, IF THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO BE ELEVATED ABOVE FLOOD ELEVATION IF THERE'S ANY WETLANDS RELATED TO THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART DEVELOPING THE, THE PROPERTY.

BUT OUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE'S NO PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WITH ANY OF, ANY OF OUR ORDINANCES THAT OUTSIDE OF, DURING CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE TO ENSURE THAT EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL IS ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, WHEN DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE NO, UM, REGULATORY CONTROLS RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE OUTSIDE OF THEIR AGREEMENT IN LIEU OF WHICH ADDRESS, AGAIN, ADDRESSES DURING DEVELOPMENT, THE EROSION, SEDIMENT CONTROL, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING ON SITE IS STABILIZED AND THEN BEFORE THEY GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE PROPERLY STABILIZED.

AND, AND THEN IF IT'S NOT, THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE THEY CAN GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, MR. PASS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. BASSETT? THERE, THE ROSSI 1 0 8 3 7 CHERRY HILL DRIVE, GLEN ISLAND, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 5 9.

THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, CONSIDERATION COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO I MEAN, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

I, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT, UH, MR. BASSETT SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR STRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF THE OR ABOVE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF THERE IS A DRAINAGE, IF IT, IF THERE IS A, A NOTED DRAINAGE ISSUE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST WATER RUNNING ACROSS SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.

SURE.

I, I KNOW FROM MY VDOT EXPERIENCE, EVERYBODY LIKE TO BLAME IT ON VDOT.

I, I HAD TO ADDRESS THIS A GAZILLION TIMES.

I JUST, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU GONNA ADDRESS THAT, EVEN IF YOUR STRUCTURE'S DONE CORRECTLY, EVEN IF THE EROSION SILTATION IS DONE CORRECTLY, WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY JUST DOESN'T LIKE HAVING WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE EXCESSIVE WATER RUNNING ACROSS OUR PROPERTY DURING THE STORM? SURE.

SO, UM, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH WHERE THE AUTO BODY SHOP IS LOCATED, IT'S ELEVATED A GOOD, GOOD BIT ABOUT ABOVE WHERE I GUESS OUR LOTS ARE LOCATED AT.

UM, LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE, UH, IN THAT COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL, UM, WE BOUGHT A LOT OF THESE LOTS AS A PACKAGE, I GUESS, FROM SOMEONE.

AND SO OUR GOAL WAS TO GO THROUGH THIS REZONING PROCESS AND ONCE WE'RE THROUGH, I'M GLAD THEY CAME AND EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THEM EITHER.

BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH AND, UH, DO IT AN EFFECTIVE WAY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD.

WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT EXCESSIVE WATER RUNOFF.

'CAUSE I DID GO DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE LOTS AFTER, UH, THE FELLOW HAD MENTIONED IT DURING THE MEETING AND I, I SAW THAT THE WATER WAS COMING THROUGH THERE.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS WHEN WE GO AHEAD AND PLAN TO DEVELOP THOSE LOTS.

MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT THAT BODY SHOP OF THOSE LOTS, THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS MEETING.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS JUST FOUR LOTS DOWN NEXT TO PAGAN STREET.

YEP.

THE INQUIRIES RIGHT NOW IS NOT THIS REZONING.

SO JUST WANNA MAKE Y'ALL

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MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS, Y'ALL MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION LAST TIME.

THIS IS JUST FOR THE TWO LOTS DOWN IN THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, NORTHWEST CORNER? MM-HMM .

SO JUST A REMINDER.

WELL, I, FOR ONE, I APPRECIATE YOUR REMINDER.

I, I REALIZED THAT WHEN I ASKED MY QUESTION, BUT I, YOU, YOU BRING UP SOMETHING I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER WHEN MARK WAS UP HERE.

IS IS THAT IS WHERE THE AUTO BODY SHOP IS? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

IS IT R ONE ALSO? NO, THAT PORTION OF THE REZONING IS OWNED B CURRENTLY B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL.

OKAY.

THANKS.

SO RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DEVELOP A USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE B TWO ZONING DISTRICT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON THAT PROPERTY.

THE COLOR CODING IS WHAT THREW ME OFF.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND.

COINCIDENTALLY, I WAS THERE THIS WEEK, MONDAY I WAS AT UNION AIR, WHICH IS RIGHT BESIDE THE, THE BODY SHOP.

AND I GUESS THE UNION AIR BUILDING IS, IT'S LIKE ELEVATED AND I'M LIKE LOOKING DOWN ON TOWARD THE, THE BODY, THE, UM, BODY SHOP.

BUT IT SEEMS PRETTY WELL, UM, ELEVATED AND, AND, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF ANY, UM, FLOODING THERE OR NOT, BUT WHO, WHO AM I? ? NO, I WANTS HOPE YOU CAN SWIM .

LIKE I SAID, WE, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY FLOODING AS WELL.

I'VE SEEN THAT AS WELL.

IT'S PRETTY ELEVATED.

IT'S PRETTY HIGH UP, BUT OF COURSE, WE'LL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROPER STUDIES TO MAKE SURE WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GOOD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SECOND QUESTION.

SURE.

ON, ON THE LOTS, PAGAN AND SIRIUS ARE THERE, YOU RESTORING THE HOUSE, YOU'RE GONNA PUT ONE HOUSE RIGHT BESIDE THAT HOUSE THAT YOU'RE RESTORING.

SO WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF SIX LOTS THERE.

MM-HMM .

THERE'S TWO, TWO ON THE LEFT OF THE HOUSE.

MM-HMM .

THERE'S THE TWO IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH THE HOUSE IS LOCATED ON.

MM-HMM .

AND THERE'S THE TWO ON THE RIGHT.

AND SO OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO DO ONE HOUSE ON THE LEFT AND ONE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT, OR I GUESS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD ASK FROM THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS IS, I MEAN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE JOINT DRIVEWAYS VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS, I GUESS, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT AREA? I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO EITHER ONE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE.

I'LL, I'LL THROW OUT A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AND IT'S, UH, GIVEN THE FACT IT'S LOW SPEED 25 MILES AN HOUR, UM, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A SEPARATE DRIVEWAY.

SURE.

VDO IS LOOKING, LIKE I SAID, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ENTRANCES AND UM, 'CAUSE EACH ENTRANCE IS A POTENTIAL REAR END COLLISION OR A A, UM, AN ANGLE COLLISION.

UM, IF THIS WAS IN AN AREA WHERE YOU HAD A HIGHER SPEED LIMIT, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

BUT I, I PERSONALLY, UM, I JUST THINK GIVEN YOUR SITUATION HERE, THE RISK OF ACCIDENT IS LOWER THAN THE RISK OF FUTURE POTENTIAL CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO FOLKS THAT WOULD BE SHARING THE ENTRANCE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT FOR THAT.

ME PERSONALLY.

SO, SO JUST TO GET SOME CLARITY, IS THE, IS V THAT'S MAIN CONCERN IS ARE, ARE THEY CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE WOULD BE ANY SORT OF ACCIDENTS WITH THE AMOUNT? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN LIKE, UH, UH, UH, BRUNWICK AVENUE YEAH, I'M JUST PICKING AT IT BY RANDOMLY.

EVEN IF YOU ASSUME ONE HOUSE EVERY THREE LOTS, THERE'S WHAT, UH, A DOZEN LOTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

SO INTUITIVELY YOU WOULD SAY THAT, I MEAN, YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS, YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND THUS THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCIDENT.

GOTCHA.

AND THAT'S ALL TRUE.

YEP.

BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAYING PERSONALLY AT THIS LOW RATE OF SPEED AND THE EXPECTATION THAT MOST DRIVERS HAVE, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, NOT EVERYBODY ADMITTED, BUT I WOULD SAY THE 85TH PERCENTILE WOULD SAY I'M IN A LOW SPEED AREA.

I THINK THAT'S A LOWER RISK THAN THE RISK OF POTENTIAL CONFLICT AMONG NEIGHBORS LATER, WHICH COULD CAUSE AN ISSUE WITH, UH, COUNTY S YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CALLING THE COUNTY FOR RELIEF.

I THINK.

I WOULD AGREE.

I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

SOUNDS PRETTY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA OPEN PUBLIC, UH, HEARING IF THERE'S ANYONE.

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I ONLY SEE MS. INGRAM.

I DON'T .

MS. INGHAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO.

OKAY.

IS ANYONE BE SIGNED UP, SIR? NO.

MR. CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, PROCEED THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION BE IT RESOLVED IN AN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN.

IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.

I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH 25 DASH TWO AS PRESENTED, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I'LL SELECT THAT.

MR. TIMUS? YES.

MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE.

MR. TUCKER? YES.

MR. SIMMONS? YES.

MR. LANGLEY? YES.

MR. HARVILLE? YES.

AND MR. HAYES? YES.

CHAIRMAN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING IP DASH 25 DASH TWO HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

UH, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NOW TO THE OLD BUSINESS.

ANYONE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? MR. BASSETT STAFF HAS NO BUSINESS.

MR. CHAIR, WHAT ABOUT NEW BUSINESS? DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO.

NEW BUSINESS, MR. CHAIR.

AND WE'RE

[10. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

DOWN TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENT.

MR. TUCKER.

UH, WHAT, WE'RE DOWN TO YOUR SPOT.

YOU WANT, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY? NO, SIR.

WOW.

I WRITE THAT DOWN.

.

THAT BELY.

REFRESHING THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, NEXT IS, UH, I HAD ONE.

OKAY.

SO I, I MENTIONED THIS AT OUR EARLIER MEETING, BUT, UM, AS BEING THE, UH, PDC REP FOR THE COUNTY OR ONE OF THE PDC REPS OF THE COUNTY, I VOLUNTEERED TO BE, UH, ON A, I GUESS YOU'D SAY AN EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE FOR A TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

IT'S ONE WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCEIVABLY THERE ARE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAT THE REGION COULD, UH, COULD GENERATE FUNDS FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT COULD HELP US WITH OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS HELP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, AND I JUST WE'RE HAVING OUR FIRST MEETING, UH, IN A COUPLE WEEKS, I THINK APRIL 7TH.

I'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT I'M LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM YOU.

I, I, I HAVE MY OWN THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.

I'VE SHARED SOME OF THOSE BEFORE.

BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT STRUCTURED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME TO MY MIND ARE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE, WITHIN THE NPO BOUNDARY OF THE COUNTY, WHETHER IT'S THE WHOLE COUNTY, UH, WHEN THERE'S ANY TAXATION INVOLVED, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THERE, BUT, UM, IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, I I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

UM, SO I CAN REPRESENT ALL OF YOU, UM, AT THE MEETING ON APRIL 7TH.

APRIL 7TH.

YOU GONNA GET ME A STOP FIGHT? YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF NO SIGNAL LIGHTS ZERO.

IT'S NOT A ZIP, NOT A, IF I COULD GET RID OF EVERY ONE OF 'EM IN THE WHOLE COMMONWEALTH, I WOULD'VE DONE IT A LONG TIME AGO.

I'VE TRIED.

TRUST ME, CAN'T GET NO HELP UP AT HIS HOUSE.

OKAY.

[11. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]

THIS CHAIR, I HAVE TWO ITEMS UNDER PLANNING DIRECTOR COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

AT THE FIRST IS, UM, RELATED TO OUR, UM, CIP COMMITTEE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS PROGRAM.

UH, AND I, I HAVE TO MAKE AN APOLOGY TO MR. TIMUS.

UM, IN THE PAST, UM, PRIOR TO MR. TIMUS SERVING ON THE CIP COMMITTEE, UH, DR.

PROCE WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S, UH, RECOMMENDED INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING ON MARCH 7TH.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR SECOND MEETING ON MARCH 17TH.

AND, UM, MR. MASSENGILL WANTED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CIP COMMITTEE.

UM, I JUST ASSUMED THAT MR. TIMUS WAS GONNA SERVE AGAIN.

BUT, UM, I HAVE THAT FOR YOUR ALL'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

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UM, WE NEED TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, IT'S YOUR ALL'S PLEASURE.

UH, WHO YOU CHOOSE TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, MR. CHAIR.

I WAS NOT A GANG SERVING.

RIGHT.

I JUST REMEMBER IN THE PAST, EVERY YEAR WE GO, HEY, THESE ARE THINGS COMING UP.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SERVE ONE OF THESE? SO I DIDN'T.

I GOT A EMAIL AND I JUST SAID, WELL, I'M ON THE LIST FROM LAST YEAR.

THAT'S WHY I GOT THE EMAIL.

WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT IT YET, BUT, UH, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO A GOOD JOB, .

SO SOMETIMES AND YOUR FRIENDS THROW, YOU NEED TO KIND OF MESS UP A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WANT TO GET OFF OF SOMETHING.

UH, BUT NO, I'LL DO IT AGAIN IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS IT.

I, IT'S INTERESTING AND VERY INFORMATIVE THING, SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS IT, YOU KNOW, JUST JUMP OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, I WANT IT.

AND I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

I THINK YOU OUGHT TO HOLD IT DOWN UNTIL, STEVE, YOU MESS UP.

OKAY.

I, WE'LL, ANOTHER YEAR MESS UP.

I THINK WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT JUST THROW IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

SO YOU'LL DO IT.

YEAH, I'LL DO IT.

DO YOU NEED A VOTE? DO YOU NEED A MOTION? I DON'T THINK SO.

I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S JUST AS CONSENSUS WHOEVER WAS GOING TO DO IT AND IF NOBODY ELSE WANTED TO JUMP IN AND THAT, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S, I'M WILLING TO MAKE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE CONFIDENCE.

UNLESS YOU WERE GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT I DON'T DO .

NO, I WASN'T GONNA DO THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

AND, UH, THE CIP WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU ALL AT YOUR APRIL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

I, AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING READY TO MAKE THIS AS YOUR NEXT COMMENT.

I'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS FROM AMELIA ABOUT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE, AND TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO SPEAK WITH US.

I MEAN, IS THAT LIKE A INDIVIDUAL ONE OF US OR THEY WANT ALL OF US TO COME SAY SOMETHING TO 'EM? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S ALL, OR ONE OR WHOEVER'S INTERESTED IN OFFERING COMMENT ON THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS AND IDEAS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.

I MEAN, THEIR INTENT THAT MAYBE ONE OF US OR A COUPLE OF US GO SIT IN ON A MEETING AND THEY COULD ASK US QUESTIONS AND RIGHT.

WE COULD MAKE COMMENTS TO THEM.

OKAY.

I, I JUST, I DIDN'T, DID ANYBODY ELSE GET THOSE EMAILS? I DIDN'T GET ONE.

HOW AM I GETTING ALL THESE EMAILS AND NOBODY ELSE IS GETTING WELL, I, I BELIEVE YOU GOT THOSE EMAILS, EMAILS RELATED TO THE COMPLAINT.

'CAUSE YOU WERE THE CHAIR CHAIR FOR THE COMPANY.

OH, GOT YOU.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, SO I'M CURIOUS, ARE THEY DOING, UH, HOW ARE THEY GOING THROUGH THAT? THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE, UH, ARE THEY DOING IT THEMSELVES OR ARE THEY HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO IT OR? UH, HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE HIRED SOMEBODY TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR UPDATE OR NOT.

UM, AND THEN HAS THIS BEEN GOING, I MEAN, I JUST NOTICED THEY GOT A NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, SO I WONDER HOW ALL THAT TIMING PLAYS INTO THIS TOO.

YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR UPDATE.

YEAH.

BUT IT IS, UM, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE, I THINK IT WAS ON APRIL 7TH.

THEY'RE HAVING A ZOOM MEETING AND YOU CAN PARTICIPATE.

I'LL, I'LL SEND IT OUT TO YOU ALL SO YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY VIA, UH, I THINK IT'S A ZOOM MEETING THAT THEY'RE HAVING AND OFFER INPUT THAT WAY AS WELL.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I MIGHT TELL THAT WEEK, BUT I DON'T MIND DOING IT.

BUT I, I, I DO HAVE THIS TRANSPORTATION THING AT FOUR THAT DAY, AND THEN I GOT SOMETHING ELSE AT SEVEN.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIME.

SEND, SEND IT TO ME AND I'LL, BUT I'LL, I'LL SEND IT OUT TO ALL OF YOU SO YOU HAVE ALL THE, BECAUSE I, I MET, UM, ONE OF THEIR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL.

OKAY.

AND, AND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I STILL GOT A BUNCH OF THAT STUFF.

I'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN IN AND TALK.

SO AT, AT FIRST BLUSH, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE SHARE THE APPOMATTOX RIVER AND WE SHARE OUR COMMENT, WE SHARE OUR BORDER WITH CHESTERFIELD.

SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME, MAYBE SOME WAYS TO WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMON COMMON ISSUES THERE.

THAT'S WHAT HIT ME WHEN YOU SAID THAT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM I HAD, UM, TO BRING UP, GOSH, NOW I'M .

I'M SURE YOU ARE .

OH, AGAIN, IT, IT, UH, MR. TITMUS DID COME UP BECAUSE HE SERVED, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

BUT, UH, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH,

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MR. MASSENGILL, UM, RELATED TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS DISCUSSION, UM, HE INDICATED THAT, UH, HE AND THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO, AS WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER ITEMS, WE'VE LOOKED AT STUDYING, UM, KIND OF DO THE TWO ON TWO MEETING WHERE WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS MEET WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS.

SO HE IS WORKING ON, UM, GETTING TWO BOARD MEMBERS TOGETHER.

UM, AND HE ASKS THAT, UM, YOU ALL DECIDE ON TWO BOARD MEMBERS TO MEET WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND TALKING THROUGH THAT ISSUE SOME MORE.

SO YOU ALL, IF YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS OF TWO COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T HAVE A DATE OR TIME EITHER.

UH, HE JUST WANTED ME TO GET THE TWO INDIVIDUALS AND THEN WE WOULD COME UP WITH THE MEETING DATE AND TIME.

MR. CHAIR, I'LL BE GLAD TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

IS THIS GROUP, SO SHE COMMITTEE TO DO IT.

I'LL SERVE TOO, IF YOU WOULD, IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY.

TWO FINE GENTLEMEN.

TWO FINE PROSPECTS.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL REPORT THAT BACK TO HIM.

AND AS I SAID, WE'LL GET A DATE AND TIME FOR YOU ALL TO MEET.

UM, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY PREFERRED DATES, TIMES? I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T DO IT FIRST WEEK.

A OKAY.

FIRST WEEK.

APRIL.

APRIL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THE ONLY TIME MINE IS OUT IS THE 18TH THROUGH THE 25TH OF OCTOBER.

I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY GOING BACK TO HONDURAS.

GOD BLESS YOU.

OCTOBER.

IT'S PASSED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU MR. BASSETT.

THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS ADJOURNMENT.

A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

.

THAT WAS THE QUICKEST RESPONSE WE'VE HAD.

ALL NIGHT .

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

GENERAL.

I THINK THE REASON THAT IS.