* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. ROLL CALL] [00:00:04] I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MARCH 18TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE DENWOODY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ORDER. CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. DOOLEY? HERE. DR. MOORE. HERE. MR. CHAVIS? HERE. MS. EBRA BONNER. HERE. MR. LEE. HERE. FIVE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE'RE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR FATHER THY KINGDOM DONE ON OUR AS HEAVEN. HEAVEN. GIVE US A DAY OUR DAILY PRAYER AND GIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE. THOSE WHO TRESPASSED AGAINST US MADE US NOT THE TEMPTATION TO DELIVER US FROM EVIL. AND THAT IS A KINGDOM POWER IN THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UH, DO WE WANT TO DO DISCLOSURES NOW OR WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL? UM, I THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN WAIT. OKAY. YOU WANNA DO 'EM NOW? JUST GO AHEAD AND DO 'EM NOW. I'LL GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. WE'VE GOT DISCLOSURES THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, GET DONE. SO, UH, MR. DOOLEY? YES, SIR. AT THE MARCH 18TH, 2025, REGULAR MEETING OF D DEITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I, CASEY M DOOLEY. INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE ADVERTISEMENT OF TAX RATES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025, THE FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2035. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THE TAX RATE BUDGET AND CIP WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR DEWINE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, INCLUDING COMPENSATION FOR EMPLOYEES. I'M EMPLOYED BY DEWINE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, WHICH WE VOTE ON TO APPROVE TODAY THE HEALTH, HEALTH INSURANCE TAX RATE, BUDGET AND CIP AFFECT THE EMPLOYEES OF DENE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I AM ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND I HAVE A DISCLOSURE AT THE MARCH 18TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE DENWITTY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I MARKEY MOORE INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE ADVERTISEMENT OF TAX RATES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025, THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2026, BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH 2035. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, THE TAX RATES BUDGET AND CIP WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR THE DE WITTY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, INCLUDING FOR COMPENSATION OF EMPLOYEES. MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE DEN WITTY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I PARTICIPATED IN THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, WHICH IS WE VOTE ON TO APPROVE TODAY. THE HEALTH INSURANCE VOTE IMPACTS ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO PARTICIPATED IN HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE TAX RATES. BUDGET AND CIP AFFECT ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE DIMITY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. ALRIGHT, EXCUSE ME. AT THE MARCH 18TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE DEITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BY DANIEL D. LEE. INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE ADVERTISEMENT OF TAX RATES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025, THE FY 2026 BUDGET AND THE FY 2026 TO 2035 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, THE TAX RATE BUDGET AND CIP WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR THE DEITY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, INCLUDING FOR COMPENSATION OF EMPLOYEES. MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED BY THE DEITY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, WHICH WE VOTE TO APPROVE TODAY. THE HEALTH INSURANCE VOTE IMPACTS ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE TAX RATES. BUDGET AND CIP AFFECTS ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF DENWOODY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I AM ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS TRANSACTION FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. I AM EMPLOYED BY THE DEITY, BY THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AS SUCH, I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY DISCUSSION ACCORDING PERTAINING TO THE APPOMATTOX RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD. ALRIGHT, [4. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA] AT THIS TIME DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE, WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT. UH, SIX D UH, WILL NOW BE THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND WE HAVE HEATHER DOWLING, [00:05:01] THE AREA, UH, FORESTER THAT'S WITH US TODAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LEFT Y'ALL, HEATHER, BUT , IT'S ALL GOOD. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FROM, UH, COOK BOARD MEMBERS? ALRIGHT, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SO MOVED. SECOND ROLL CALL. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. OKAY. [5. CONSENT AGENDA] YOU HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE YOU, UM, YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT. UH, IS THERE ANY, UM, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, POLITE DISCUSS? UM, OR WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SECOND THAT I SECOND THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA? HAVE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. [6.A. Virginia Department Of Transportation] UM, REPORTS WE HAVE VDOT, MR. AARON, FRENCH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. GOOD AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOT, UH, AN UPDATE ON A PROJECT I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IN A WHILE. AND THAT IS THE ROUNDABOUT COMING AT FERNDALE AND RIVER ROAD. I SAT IN A PREED CONFERENCE FOR THAT PROJECT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. UH, CURRENT SCHEDULE IS TO ADVERTISE FOR CONSTRUCTION IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR WITH THE CONSTRUCTION START DATE, UH, LATE IN 2025, EARLY 2026. SO WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE SEEING SOME ACTIVITY OUT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. THERE WILL BE FULL, FULL DETOURS, FULL CLOSURES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT. SO WE WILL WORK WITH PLENTY OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AHEAD OF TIME ON THOSE 'CAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF DETOUR GOING ALL THE WAY UP. FERNDALE INTO CHESTERFIELD, AUKA AND COMING AROUND THROUGH PETERBURG IN YOUR LOCAL PUBLICATIONS. UH, THIS WEEK YOU MIGHT SEE AN AD FOR A WILLINGNESS, UH, FOR A SIDEWALK PROJECT COMING IN MCKINNEY. UM, THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I'VE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, UH, WORKING ON EXTENDING SOME SIDEWALK, WHAT IS WEST OF ROUTE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROUTE 40 ALONG DOLLAR GENERAL AND RUNNING BACK TO THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION ON THAT IS NOT HOWEVER SCHEDULED TO BEGIN UNTIL, UH, 2027. THAT'S A DISTRICT-WIDE PROJECT. UM, THE FUNDING FOR IT IS, SO THEY'VE ACROSS THE DISTRICT WORKING ON A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS, GETTING ALL THAT STRAIGHT BEFORE WE MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION AND ALL OF THOSE CONCURRENTLY. THE BAIN ROAD BRIDGE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. UH, THAT CREW IS THE DENWITTY BRIDGE CREW WORKING ON THAT. UH, WE ARE MOSTLY IN DEMOLITION WORK RIGHT NOW AND PREPARING TO SET THE NEW STRUCTURE. UM, THIS NEW STRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE INSTALLING IS A P PREFABRICATED ALUMINUM STRUCTURE THAT HAS A DELIVERY DATE OF LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY. THEY'RE GETTING EVERYTHING READY FOR THAT, POURING THEIR FOOTERS FOR THAT NEW STRUCTURE. ONCE THE STRUCTURE COMES IN, IT'S MORE OR LESS SET IT AND BOLTED UP AND, AND FILL IT BACK IN AND GOOD TO GO. WE ARE WORKING ON PREPARING THE CHERRY HILL AND TRANQUILITY LANE ROLL RUSTIC PROJECTS FOR CONSTRUCTION. UM, GOT SOME SURVEYING TO DO ON TRANQUILITY FOR THOSE CURVES AND, UM, I HAVE A GOAL TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE BY MAY. SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO TO BEGIN CHERRY HILL A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN TRANQUILITY, SO YOU SHOULD SEE SOME ACTION ON THAT SOONER THAN TRANQUILITY. THE HALIFAX ROAD THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION WAS APPROVED LAST WEEK. UM, GOT THE GREEN LIGHT FROM THE COMMISSIONER ON THAT. GOT A SIGNED PLAN TOGETHER AND SUBMITTED TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FOR REVIEW YESTERDAY. IT'LL BE ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO, UH, LEAD TIME ON ORDERING THOSE SIGNS AND GETTING, GETTING THEM INSTALLED ONCE THEY'RE INSTALLED. I WILL SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD AS WELL AS LOCAL AND STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT SO WE CAN BEGIN ENFORCEMENT ON THAT TRUCK RESTRICTION. THE STERLING ROAD THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION IS STILL WAITING APPROVAL. I THINK WE SUBMITTED THIS ONE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO. UM, AFTER HALIFAX, SO PROBABLY A MONTH OR SO BEFORE WE SEE ANY CLEARANCE ON STERLING. WE HAVE SOME HERBICIDE TREATMENT, UH, UNDERWAY IN THE COUNTY. UM, THEY'RE DOING SOME SECTIONS OF ROUTE ONE TODAY, ANNUALLY. WE DO SECTIONS OF ROUTE ONE, UM, ROUTE FOUR 60 AND 2 26 AS WELL. THIS IS A GROWTH INHIBITOR. MM-HMM . MOST OF OUR RESURFACING, UH, SCHEDULES ARE FIRING [00:10:01] UP WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PLANT MIX ASPHALT. UH, THAT SHOULD BEGIN IN APRIL. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXACT, UH, AREA THAT CONTRACTOR'S GONNA MOBILIZE TO FIRST. THEY COVER THE ENTIRE RESIDENCY. THEY MAY JUMP TO ANOTHER COUNTY BEFORE THEY COME, BUT THEY ARE GONNA BEGIN EXECUTING WORK IN THIS RESIDENCY IN APRIL. WE DO HAVE AN INTERESTING, UH, RESURFACING PROJECT COMING INTO THE COUNTY THIS SEASON AS WELL. UH, ROUTE 6 51 MASONS CHURCH ROAD. WE ARE GONNA DO A FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION PROJECT ON AS WELL. IT WAS IDENTIFIED TO US THAT ROAD HAD SOME PRETTY SEVERE SUBGRADE ISSUES, A LOT OF PAVEMENT FAILURES, DEEP. UM, WE WERE HAVING TO DIG OUT, UH, THE ASPHALT AND ENTIRE ROAD PRETTY CONSISTENTLY. SO IT'S A, UH, RECLAMATION METHOD. BASICALLY GRINDS UP THE ENTIRE ROAD. THEY MIX, UH, CEMENT IN WITH IT AND PAVE IT BACK AND IT BECOMES CONCRETE AND YOU DON'T RARELY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A POTHOLE AGAIN ON THAT ROAD. OUR MAINTENANCE, UH, FOCUS RIGHT NOW PRIMARILY IS ON POTHOLES AND DEBRIS PICKUP, WORKING ON RECOVERING FROM ALL OF THE WINTER STORMS IN THE PAST MONTH. SO PLEASE BE PATIENT. WE ARE PUTTING DOWN A LOT OF ASPHALT RIGHT NOW AND GETTING THE POTHOLES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. THERE ARE SOME THINNER AREAS WHERE WE MAY HAVE, UM, A LATEX OR A SURFACE TREATMENT PAVEMENT. A THIN SURFACE THAT'S DELAMINATING, WHERE IT'S A POTHOLE AND IT'S A SMALL ONE. WE'VE GOT A, A SPRAY INJECTION TRUCK THAT CYCLES THROUGHOUT OUR RESIDENCY THAT, THAT HITS A LOT OF THOSE WHERE A TYPICAL ASPHALT, UM, WON'T STICK IN THE, IN THE THIN PATCHES. SO IT MAY BE THAT THOSE CERTAIN TYPE OF POTHOLES DON'T GET ADDRESSED FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT TRUCK. WE'VE GOT ONE THAT WE SHARE AMONGST OUR THREE COUNTIES. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, STARTING UP THE ANNUAL SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN PROCESS NEXT MONTH. AND I WILL BE AT THE WORK SESSION ON APRIL 1ST TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS. HAVE A PRESENTATION PER USUAL. UM, AND ALSO WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON IS DOUGLAS PAYNE. HE'S OUR NEW MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS MANAGER IN THE RESIDENCY. SO Y'ALL MAY BE HEARING FROM HIM SOME INSTEAD OF ME. WELCOME. MM-HMM . YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD THIS AFTERNOON? ANY QUESTIONS MS. TODD? NO, WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU FOR HALIFAX 13 YEARS. IT'S NOT BAD, YOU KNOW, SIR. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOT IT DONE. AND I HOPE IT DON'T LAST, UH, TAKE THAT LONG FOR BILLY BE'S, UH, BRIDGE. ME TOO. ONCE, ONCE THEY GET THAT NEW STRUCTURE IN IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD GO PRETTY QUICK. CAN YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ON TIME? I WILL. I'LL, I'LL GET THEIR CURRENT SCHEDULE AND SEND IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . OKAY. I HAVE ONE. YOU GOT ONE? GO AHEAD. YEAH. UM, UM, I WAS ON, I KNOW IT RAINED NOT TOO LONG AGO ON STERLING ROAD, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, THAT POND AND THE, IS THAT SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY OR DOES VDOT CONTROL THAT? BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT OVERFLOWS SOMETIMES ON STERLING ROAD. IT'S LIKE IN A CORNER. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM NUMBER ONE, IT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. IT, IT, IT FLOODS QUICKLY. OKAY. THE ONLY POND THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT VDOT HAS IS AT FERNDALE AND RIVER ROAD. THAT, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE BY THE BOY SCOUT FACILITY. OTHER THAN THAT THEY WOULD BE ON PRI PRIVATE PROPERTY. OKAY. BECAUSE IT, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WATER, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, IT'S LIKE A POND. GO ALL THE WAY BEHIND SOMEONE'S HOUSE THOUGH. OKAY. YEAH. IF, MAYBE TAKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT MM-HMM . I WAS GONNA, UM, ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ALSO, UM, I HAD SOMEONE CALL ME, UM, IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO BACK THROUGH WEST PITTSBURGH AND SEE THAT THE, UH, WATER DRAINAGE, THEY SAID THAT WATER IS SITTING IN, IN THEIR YARDS AND THE DRAIN IS, UM, KIND OF STOPPED UP WITH LEAVES AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. OKAY. YOU KNOW, UM, AND I GET THAT A LOT BECAUSE, UM, AND I KNOW WITH THE WIND BLOWING AND THE, UM, LEAVES ARE GOING IN THE DRAINAGE AND KIND OF STOPPING IT UP SO THE WATER JUST BACKS UP. MM-HMM . SO IS THERE A SPECIFIC SPOT IN WEST PETERSBURG? UM, NO. I HAD A MEETING. THEY, THEY TOLD ME A WHOLE LOT OF THEM SO , SO YEAH. UH, YOU GET A CHANCE TO, UH, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO TO NARROW IT, NARROW IT DOWN TO, YEAH, I, I DO BELIEVE WE'VE GOT SOME CLOSED DRAINAGE IN THERE. YEAH. SO IT MAY, IT'S PROBABLY A CURB INLET OR, OR A DROP INLET THAT'S, THAT'S PLUGGED OFF. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. HAPPEN TO TAKE A RIDE THROUGH AND AND CHECK IT OUT. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I KNOW YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS ONCE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S YOUR ROAD, BUT WESTGATE SHOPPING CENTER AND NOT THE POTHOLE, BUT THE SMALL CRATER THAT WE PROBABLY LOST SMALL VEHICLES IN. NO, SIR. THAT IS NOT VDO T'S ROAD . THAT'S NOT VDOT. SO I KNOW THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE GETTING POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA [00:15:01] THAT WHEN IS VDOT GOING TO FIX IT AND YOU'RE NOT. RIGHT. NO, SIR. SO THAT, THAT'S UP TO THE SHOPPING CENTER TO FIX THAT. YES, SIR. ARE THEY AWARE OF THAT, THAT THAT'S THERE? I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY CONTACTED THEM. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THEY, VDOT HAS, BUT THEY CAN'T GET THERE WITHOUT SEEING IT. SO THEY, THEY KNOW IT'S THERE. RIGHT. MS. BUT ANYBODY WATCHING AT HOME, IT, IT'S NOT VDOT, RIGHT? NO SIR. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, [6.B. Brightpoint Community College] MOVING ALONG. UH, BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. DR. BILL , UM, PRESIDENT BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I, SORRY ABOUT THAT. HEY, YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. CHAIRMAN LEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BOARD MEMBERS. MR. MASSENGILL. UH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY, BUT IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR, A YEAR NOW SINCE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. I'D BE REMISS NOT TO FIRST THANK MORGAN INGRAM FOR HER, UH, LEADERSHIP ON OUR COLLEGE BOARD. WE APPRECIATE YOU SENDING HER TO US FOLLOWING, UH, THE FOOTSTEPS OF, UH, TAMMY COLLINS WHO SERVED ON OUR BOARD, SERVED AS CHAIR AND IS NOW ON OUR REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION. SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR LEADERSHIP AT, AT BRIGHT POINT. UM, TODAY I DECIDED NOT TO DO A POWERPOINT. IF, IF YOU PREFER A POWERPOINT NEXT YEAR, LET ME KNOW. I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT ONE TOGETHER. UH, BUT JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLEGE, LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, THAT YOU MAY HAVE. UH, SO FIRST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AN OPEN ACCESS INSTITUTION. WE'VE BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 1967 WITH OUR CHESTER CAMPUS, ABOUT 25 MINUTES FROM HERE WITH A, A MISSION OF TO PROVIDE QUALITY EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT INSPIRE STUDENT SUCCESS AND COMMUNITY VITALITY. COMMUNITY IS IN OUR MIDDLE NAME AND OUR VISION STATEMENT IS A SUCCESS STORY FOR EVERY STUDENT. EVERY STUDENT WHO COMES THROUGH OUR DOORS, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT ANY STUDENT'S PATHWAY FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, THEY CAN START AT BRIGHT POINT AND GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. WHETHER IT'S ONE CLASS OR ALL THE WAY THROUGH AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE. MOST IT'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. WE SERVE OVER 12,000 STUDENTS A YEAR. UH, THAT'S JUST IN OUR CREDIT PROGRAMS. ANOTHER 4,000. OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE ALLIANCE, WHICH IS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN REYNOLDS AND BRIGHT POINT COMMUNITY COLLEGES. UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 300 STUDENTS, UH, FROM THE DENWITTY AREA. UH, LAST YEAR OUR YOUNGEST STUDENT WAS 14 IN DUAL ENROLLMENT, AND OUR OLDEST STUDENT WAS 102. SO ANYBODY WATCHING WHO THINKS THEY'RE TOO OLD TO GO TO SCHOOL? WELL THEY'RE NOT. UH, WE GOT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO HELP THEM REACH, UH, THEIR GOALS. BUT 80% OF OUR STUDENTS STAY RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AFTER THEY FINISH. SO YOU'RE FUNDING A PROGRAM WHERE THE STUDENTS STAY HERE, WORK HERE, LIVE HERE, PLAY HERE, UH, AND OUR CAMPUSES, AS I JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE A CHESTER CAMPUS ABOUT 25 MINUTES FROM HERE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE A CAMPUS IN MIDLOTHIAN. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PLETHORA OF ONLINE OPTIONS, UH, FOR STUDENTS. SO AS FAR AS OUR CREDIT PROGRAMS, WE HAVE OVER 80 DEGREE IN CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS IN A WIDE VARIETY OF AREAS. FROM THE SKILLED TRADES TO EDUCATION TO ENGINEERING, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, HUMAN SERVICES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SOMEBODY WANTS TO START AT BRIGHT POINT TOWARDS A CAREER. WE CAN HELP THEM GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. UM, SOME PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO, FOR STUDENTS TO GO DIRECTLY TO EMPLOYMENT. SOME ARE DESIGNED FOR TRANSFER. NOW, LOOKING AT SOME OF YOUR BIOS, I THINK WE HAVE SOME VIRGINIA TECH FANS HERE, UH, BECAUSE ON THE BIO IT SAYS GO HOES AT THE END. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, VIRGINIA TECH HAD 57,000 APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR FOR ENROLLMENT, BUT THEY HAVE GUARANTEED ADMISSION AGREEMENTS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. MM-HMM . SO STUDENTS AREN'T FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET INTO VIRGINIA TECH OR OTHER SCHOOLS ON THE FIRST TRY. WE HAVE 35 GUARANTEED ADMISSION AGREEMENTS WITH OUR FOUR YEAR PARTNERS, INCLUDING VIRGINIA TECH AND SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN VIRGINIA, UH, WHERE STUDENTS CAN TRANSFER AND, AND FIND GREAT SUCCESS. SO WE HAVE PATHWAYS, UH, FOR THEM, UH, THAT ARE GUARANTEED. UM, 200, UH, 56 STUDENTS WERE IN OUR CREDIT PROGRAMS LAST YEAR. 40 STUDENTS, UH, GRADUATED, UH, FROM OUR PROGRAMS AND FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WE HAD SIX IN WITTY COUNTY PUBLIC STUDENTS IN OUR CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT PIPELINE. GRADUATE WITH CSCS, THAT'S A CAREER STUDY CERTIFICATE. FOUR IN INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICITY, ONE IN WELDING, AND ONE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD. THIS YEAR WE'VE DOUBLED THAT NUMBER. WE HAVE 17 STUDENTS ENROLLED. EIGHT STUDENTS ARE IN THEIR FIRST YEAR AND NINE ARE IN THEIR SECOND YEAR, EXPECTED TO COMPLETE A CAREER STUDY CERTIFICATE. SO AGAIN, PATHWAYS TO A CAREER WHILE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BUSES THEM TO OUR CAMPUS FOR IT. 14 STUDENTS ARE PARTICIPATING IN DUAL ENROLLMENT DIRECTLY THROUGH ANTE IN PROGRAMS LIKE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY THROUGH CCB THROUGH THROUGH CCWA, WE HAVE OVER 30 WHAT ARE CALLED FAST FORWARD PROGRAMS, UH, FAST FORWARD'S DESIGNED FOR STUDENTS TO GET A CREDENTIAL WITHIN FOUR WEEKS TO, UH, TO A FEW MONTHS SO THEY CAN GET AN INDUSTRY CERTIFICATION TO GO INTO AN ENTRY LEVEL JOB. UH, STUDENTS FROM DENWITTY PARTICIPATED IN OUR TRUCK DRIVER TRAINING, MANUFACTURING TECHNICIAN, LEVEL ONE MANUFACTURING SPECIALISTS, CERTIFIED NURSE AID CERTIFIED [00:20:01] LOGISTICS, AND OTHERS, UH, DENWITTY STUDENTS HAD A 94% COMPLETION RATE AND AN 88% CREDENTIAL RATE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ABOVE THE AVERAGE FOR ALL STUDENTS IN OUR CCWB WAY PROGRAMS. UH, AGAIN, TO HELP OUR STUDENTS ACHIEVE, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ACADEMICS. IT'S PROVIDING THE SUPPORT SERVICES. WE'RE EXPANDING OUR CAREER SERVICES PROGRAM 'CAUSE WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT STUDENTS GET IN OUR PROGRAMS, BUT THEY ALSO GET OUT WITH A JOB AND OR SUCCESSFUL TRANSFER. WE ALSO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY SERVICES, TUTORING, LIBRARY SERVICES, TESTING, SPORTS. WE JUST HIRED A BRAND NEW, UH, COORDINATOR OF OUR VETERANS AFFAIRS PROGRAM AND WE ALSO HAVE A HELP HUB THAT'S DESIGNED FOR STUDENTS TO GO TO ONE SPOT WHERE THEY CAN GET HELP WITH REGISTRATION, ADVISING, FINANCIAL AID AND OTHER SERVICES ALL IN ONE LOCATION. WE HAVE A CAREER EDUCATION CONSORTIUM THAT WORKS WITH ALL 10 OF OUR SCHOOL PARTNERS, OF COURSE, DEN WITTY BEING BEING ONE OF THOSE SCHOOL PARTNERS. AND, UH, JUST WANNA LIST SOME OF THE, UM, PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORTED SPECIFICALLY DEN WITTY STUDENTS IN THE LAST YEAR. THE CEC SUPPORTED DEN WIT'S INDUSTRY DAY, WHICH WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH. BRIGHTPOINT FACULTY TALKED TO STUDENTS ABOUT CAREERS IN ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY. WE ALSO SUPPORTED YOUR CREATOR REGION WORKFORCE READY DIPLOMA SEAL PROGRAM, HOSTING THE REVERSE CAREER AND DIPLOMA SEAL SIGNING DAY AND SUPPORTING PROGRAM PLANNING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THE DIPLOMA SEAL SIGNING DAY THIS YEAR WILL BE ON MAY 2ND. DENWOODY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS VISITED THE CHESTER CAMPUS ON FEBRUARY 7TH AND PARTICIPATED IN A CAREER EXPLORATION DAY AND AREAS INCLUDED, AGAIN, THE SKILLED TRADES AND MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT. AND THIS IS ONE I THINK IS REALLY COOL. THE CC THROUGH A CHEV GRANT FOR COLLEGE EXPOSURE WILL HOST 225 TO 250 MIDDLE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS FOR A CAREER EXPLORATION DAY ON OUR CAMPUS IN MAY. AND SO FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE'RE REALLY WORKING TO SHOW STUDENTS THESE KIDS OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. SO TO SUM IT ALL UP, WE'RE ALL ABOUT PATHWAYS. UH, WE DO IT FOR THE LOWEST TUITION BY FAR IN OUR REGION, ONLY $164 AND 61 CENTS PER CREDIT HOUR. WE GET STUDENTS WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, AND AGAIN, WHETHER STUDENTS WANT TO GO DIRECTLY TO A JOB OR TRANSFER OR GET A PROMOTION AT WORK, WE'LL HELP THEM GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE AT BRIGHTPOINT. SO WITH THAT MR. UH, CHAIR, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS, I'LL, I'LL START WITH A STATEMENT. OKAY. UM, DR. FIGE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, YOUR LEADERSHIP THAT YOU BROUGHT TO BRIGHT POINT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITIES, IF, IF A CHILD TODAY IN OUR SYSTEM AS WELL AS ADULTS THAT ARE IN NEED OF A CAREER CHANGE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IF THEY WILL JUST GO TO THE BRIGHTPOINT WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE, UH, IT'S READILY AVAILABLE. UH, I JUST THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU RENDER TO OUR, OUR CITIZENS, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL OR ADULT. THERE'S TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU, DR. MOORE. THANK YOU. YEAH, AND I, I'D LIKE TO JUST ECHO, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AT BRIGHT POINT AND, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, ANY DUAL ENROLLMENT, I, I PAID FOR, UH, TWO KIDS AT TECH AND, UH, IT IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. SO, UM, , SO ANYTIME, OF COURSE, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CUT THAT TIME DOWN IN BLACKSBURG, BUT IT SURE WOULD'VE BEEN NICE ON ME. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A, JUST A COMMENT. I, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE HAD THE, I GUESS, UNIQUE PRIVILEGE NOW YOU'VE BEEN AT BRIGHT POINT AS VICE PRESIDENT FOR 12, 13 YEARS NOW. 13 YEARS, YEAH. 12, 12 YEARS AS VP, ONE YEAR NOW AS PRESIDENT. YEAH. SO WE, WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK A LOT OVER THE YEARS. UM, JUST PHENOMENAL, UM, JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND ALREADY AS FAR AS THE REGIONAL MANAGERS AND ADMINISTRATORS BILL'S COME IN AND, AND REALLY TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO CONNECT, UH, WHICH IS I THINK JUST GONNA FURTHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT BRIGHT POINT'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. BILL, I WANNA REFERENCE, I WAS GONNA SAY THE, THE FEMALE IN THE ROOM, BUT THERE'S LIKE THIS WHOLE SIDE EXCEPT FOR CHIEF KISSINGER'S FEMALE. SO LASHONDA LEE IN THE BACK. LASHON, IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND. SO BILL, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HER BEFORE YOU LEAVE. SHE'S OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. SO I KNOW IF WE WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CCWA AND POTENTIALLY THE CUSTOMIZED TRAINING, MAKE SURE Y'ALL TALK. WE GOT YOU. OKAY. NO, THAT'S GREAT. WELL, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND UH, IF YOU WANT A POWERPOINT NEXT YEAR, JUST LET ME KNOW. I'LL BE HAPPY. YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE DAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE [6.C. The James House] GONNA GO TO JAMES HOUSE. UM, DOLORES JEFFERSON, DIRECTOR OF CLIENT SERVICES AND UNDERSERVED POPULATION. AND ANNA SMITH, DIRECTOR OF CRISIS SERVICES. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AFTERNOON. HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US. [00:25:01] I WANTED TO START OUT WITH JUST TELLING YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT JAMES HOUSE DOES. I'M NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH US, BUT WE ARE A AGENCY THAT PROVIDES FREE SERVICES FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND STALKING. WE DO EVERYTHING FROM HAVE A 24 HOUR HOTLINE AND EMERGENCY SHELTER. WE HAVE A FOOD PANTRY, A CLOTHING CLOSET. WE DO COURT ACCOMPANIMENT, LEGAL ADVOCACY, IMMIGRATION WORK. AND WE ALSO WILL ACCOMPANY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERVIEWS AND HOSPITAL EXAMS. UM, WE SERVE ABOUT 1200 CLIENTS A YEAR, UM, GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR. AND YOU GUYS SUPPORT US, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE. SO MY PARTNER HERE, DOLORES, IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE TO DEN SPECIFICALLY. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT WE'VE ANSWERED OVER A HUNDRED CRISIS SLASH HOTLINE CALLS TO INCLUDE OUR LAP, WHICH IS OUR LETHALITY ASSESSMENT PROTOCOL PROGRAM THAT WE PARTNER WITH THE DIMITY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A SHOUT OUT. THEY ARE THE ONLY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE SERVICE AREA THAT WE PROVIDE THAT, UM, PARTICIPATES IN OUR LAP PROGRAM. SO WE REALLY WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION WITH THAT. UM, WE HAVE SERVED APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED CLIENTS IN THE DENWOODY AREA. THIS INCLUDES COURT OF MENT, EMERGENCY SHELTER, PEER COUNSELING, ADVOCACY, AND CASE MANAGEMENT. ALL THE STUFF THAT SHE SAID , BUT I WROTE IT DOWN . UM, WE ALSO LIKE TO THANK, UM, DENWOODY DSS. WE HAVE BEEN REALLY WORKING TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR LOCAL AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT GOOD PARTNERSHIP. AND WE'VE, UM, REALLY BUILT THAT UP WITH DENWOOD EDSS. SO WE REALLY WANNA THANK THEM AGAIN, UM, FOR THE SUPPORT AND REFERRALS FOR THAT. UM, WE'VE ALSO COLLABORATED WITH THE EAST SIDE ENHANCEMENT CENTER TO PROVIDE, UM, WHAT WE CALL OUR POPUP EVENTS AND WHERE WE PROVIDE FREE BASIC ESSENTIALS TO ANY COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT'S IN NEED. SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY THAT'S EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL VIOLENCE OR STALKING. IT'S JUST IF WE HAVE EXTRA DIAPERS OR WIPES OR CLEANING SUPPLIES OR ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE WANTED TO SAY THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR. UM, SO SHORT AND SWEET. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? OF COURSE. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD GROUP. YOU KNOW, I'M ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. I'M, I'M A PART OF THEM ON THE JAMES HOUSE AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS COMING UP THAT YOU CAN, UM, GO TO AND SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, ESPECIALLY THE NOVEMBER ONE. SO YOU MIGHT LEAVE YOUR INFORMATION SO THEY CAN, UM, ATTEND AT THE, UH, CASINO NOW. YES. SO WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE, SO IT'S UM, WWW.JAMESHOUSE.ORG. OKAY. UM, AND OUR FIRST HOMEPAGE WILL BE ALL OF OUR EVENTS. I TRY TO UPDATE THAT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. SO FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY PACKED WITH EVENTS. UM, APRIL SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS COMING UP THEN. SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHECK US OUT. SUPPORT US. WE HAVE A 5K WALK COMING UP CASINO NIGHT. UM, WE'VE ALREADY COME UP WITH A LITTLE THEME, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT AND, UM, SUPPORT US. WE'D APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB. OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I HAD A CLIENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT I REFERRED DOWN THERE FROM MY OFFICE. UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S NICE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO AS A REFUGE THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE THERE TO HELP THEM AND TO SUPPORT THEM. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE UNTIL YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME HELP. AND SO, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT, WHAT'S BEING OFFERED AT THE JAMES HOUSE. YEP. I ECHO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND, UM, LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT [Additional Item] OF FORESTRY, UH, I OWN AREA FORESTRY HEALTH AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. SO WHEN I STARTED 25 YEARS AGO NOW WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT WORKED FOR US AND EVERY TIME HE GAVE A TALK, HE'D PUT A ROLL OF TOILET PAPER ON THE PODIUM. AND HIS POINT WAS THAT NO MATTER HOW REMOVED YOU ARE FROM THE FOREST, YOU STILL DEPEND ON THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY. COVID HIT. AND WE HAD THE TOILET PAPER SHORTAGE AND THAT BECAME CRYSTAL CLEAR JUST SINCE COVID, I'VE PICKED UP HIS MANSEL AND I'VE STARTED DOING IT. SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT THERE WHILE WE, WHILE WE TALK . UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING ME TO COME IN AND JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN FORESTRY IN THE COUNTY. GOT A REAL QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE UP TO, AND THEN I THINK IT'D BE MORE USEFUL TO JUST ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. OKAY. FOR THE NEXT ONE, OR DO I, DO I HAVE A QUICK, I DO TREES, SO IF THIS TAKES ME A MINUTE. I'M SORRY. I WAS GONNA SAY, IF NOT, THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. SO THE FIRST THING IS, I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE'S ALWAYS AWARE OF THIS, AND I TRIED TO, I'M SORRY, TYLER. [00:30:01] I TRIED TO SHRINK DOWN THE PARTS OF THIS THAT ARE MORE LAWYER THAN I CAN HANDLE. UM, BUT BASICALLY EVERY COUNTY IN VIRGINIA PAYS THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY A TAX OF 9 CENTS PER FORESTED ACRE FOR OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION AND FIRE PREVENTION PROGRAMS. I BELIEVE LAST TIME I SAW THE NUMBER FOR DIM, WE, IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 9,000 AND 12,000 A YEAR. WHAT YOU GET FOR THAT, THIS IS THE LAST SIX YEARS WORTH OF NUMBERS FOR FIRES. THESE ARE FIRES JUST AS THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY HAS BEEN TO, NOT THAT THE DEPARTMENT, THE ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN TO, THESE ARE JUST THE ONES WE'VE BEEN NEEDED AS AN EXTRA TOOL TO HELP SUPPRESS THE FIRE. AND YOU'LL SEE 2022 STANDS OUT AS A BIG YEAR. THERE WAS ONE FIRE THAT WAS 160 ACRES, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANOMALY. UM, OVER THE 25 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, OUR AVERAGE FIRES HAS GONE KIND OF DOWN. UM, WHEN I STARTED WE USUALLY RAN ABOUT 20 FIRES A YEAR. SO I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING HAS IMPROVED. I CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT CHANGE IS. MM-HMM. UM, IT MAY BE THE RETIREMENT OF TOMMY NUNLEY AND HIS . THAT MAY BE THE CHANGE. THAT COULD BE GOOD. WE HAVE LESS FIRES NOW BECAUSE HE'S NOT RUNNING EVERYTHING. I'M NOT SURE. UM, THAT'S FINE. BUT THAT, THAT ACREAGE TO ME IS ASTOUNDING FOR THE SIZE OF THE COUNTY. WE ARE, HOW MOST OF THE COUNTY IS STILL RURAL. SO THE, WE DON'T HAVE MANY ACRES THAT BURN NOW. WE HAVE YEARS. IF I HAD GONE BACK AND INCLUDED, UM, 2008 WHEN WE HAD THE OLD STAGE ROAD FIRE, THAT FIRE WAS 3,800 AND SOME ACRES. SO WE HAVE ANOMALY YEARS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS KIND OF A FUN GRAPH. IF YOU GO BACK TO 2010, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE'VE HAD HAD TO USE A BULLDOZER TO SUPPRESS THE FIRE. SOME OF THOSE FIRES HAD THREE OR FOUR DOZERS ON 'EM. UM, BUT IT, IT KIND OF RANGES FROM TWO TO 12 OR 15 TIMES A YEAR THAT WE ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING OUT THAT FIRE. AND THE REASON WE'RE USEFUL USING OUR BULLDOZER, WE CAN PUT IN A FIRE LINE. SO WE'RE BASICALLY DIGGING A DITCH AROUND THE FIRE AS IF YOU HAD A CAMPFIRE. YOU KNOW HOW YOU USUALLY RAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM IT SO THAT THE FIRE DOESN'T CREEP OUT AND SPREAD ON YOU. WE JUST DO THAT IN REVERSE. WE HAVE THE FIRE AND THEN WE PUT A LINE AROUND IT. IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TO DO THAT WITH A BULLDOZER THAN WITH A HAND RAKE. AND SOMETIMES THESE FIRES ARE WAY BACK WHERE THE, IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A TRUCK TO. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DISTINCTION ABOUT WHY WE'RE NOT ON EVERY FIRE. WHEN IT COMES TO FOREST HARVESTING IN VIRGINIA, A LOGGER IS REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY WITHIN THREE DAYS OF MOVING ON TO A HARVEST. AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE OUT THERE. WE SEND THEM THE LANDOWNER, A LETTER LETTING THEM KNOW WE'RE COMING SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBJECT. UM, AND THEN WITHIN 20 CALENDAR DAYS, WE WILL INSPECT, INSPECT THAT SITE AND WE'LL COME BACK EVERY 45 DAYS UNTIL THE CLOSE OF THE HARVEST. AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING FOR IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT BREAKING ANY OF THE WATER QUALITY LAWS OF THE STATE. UM, WE AVERAGE ABOUT THREE VISITS PER HARVEST, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE. SOME OF THE SMALLER HARVESTS MAY BE ONE. UM, THIS IS THE PAST FOUR YEARS WORTH OF DATA FOR US. SO IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 169 HARVESTS IN DENWITTY COUNTY EVERY YEAR. AND THAT RANGES EVERYTHING FROM MAYBE A ONE ONE YARD, ONE ACRE LOT THAT'S GONNA BECOME A YARD AND, BUT THAT TIMBER IS BEING REMOVED, SO THAT COUNTS AS A HARVEST ALL THE WAY UP TO, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED ACRES. UM, THIS 2021, I THINK THAT ANOMALY HAD TO DO WITH COVID AND JUST GETTING THINGS RAMPED BACK UP. UM, THAT WAS THE LOWEST YEAR I'VE SEEN IN MY 25 YEARS. WOW. AND THEN THIS YEAR HAS BEEN LOWER THAN NORMAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT, WHY THE NUMBERS ARE SO LOW THIS YEAR. BUT IT IS KIND OF ACROSS OUR REGION WITHIN REFORESTATION. WE HAVE NEVER, AS AN AGENCY, BEEN REALLY GOOD AT DOCUMENTING HARVESTS AND REPLANTING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH. SO I DON'T HAVE GOOD HISTORICAL NUMBERS. UM, WE ARE NOW SHIFTING GEARS AND WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE ANY HARVESTED LAND, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT AFTERWARDS. BUT JUST ANECDOTALLY FROM THE PAST YEARS, I FEEL LIKE 80 TO 90% OF THE TRACKS IN DINWOODY ARE RE FORESTED IN SOME MANNER. THEY'RE EITHER PLANTED OR THEY NATURALLY COME BACK IN TREES. UM, THE OTHER 10 TO 20% THAT'S USUALLY, UM, CONVERSION TO SOMETHING ELSE. HOUSE LOT, UM, WALMART, WHEN THAT , THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND THEN OTHER THINGS WE DO, WE DO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. WE HAVE NINE OF 'EM HERE IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TWO IN PROGRESS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO CLOSE ON BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. UM, BASED ON THOSE EASEMENTS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN AMAZING NUMBER. THERE'S 61,733 FEET OF STREAM BANK THAT IS PROTECTED WITH OUR EASEMENTS SO THAT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, THE LANDOWNER HAS DONATED AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO DEVELOP THAT LAND AND PUT SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND THERE ARE SOME TAX BREAKS FOR THEM. UM, IT IS NOT A SIMPLE PROCESS TO GET INTO. SO THESE ARE LANDOWNERS WHO'VE REALLY, REALLY COMMITTED TO CONSERVATION EFFORTS. UM, IT'S KIND OF AN EXCITING PRACTICE THAT WE DO. AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS WE DO, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT 200 SLIDES IF I HAD BEEN JUST DUMPED EVERYTHING WE DO. BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE DO, WE DO SCHOOL PROGRAMS. WE TALK TO DIFFERENT EVENTS [00:35:01] AND DO TOURS. WE DO FIRE TRAININGS. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE TRI-CITIES FIRE ACADEMY THE PAST FEW YEARS AS THEY'RE AS TRAINING THE NEW FIREFIGHTERS FOR THE COUNTY. UM, WE DO GRANTS FOR BOTH FIRE FOR URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY AND FOR SOME RIPARIAN BUFFER ESTABLISHMENT. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO FOREST MANAGEMENT, THAT'S KIND OF OUR MEAT AND POTATOES WHEN WE'RE NOT ON A FIRE AND WE DO EVERYTHING FROM HELPING PEOPLE DECIDE WHEN IT'S TIME TO HARVEST ALL THE WAY UP TO HOW TO REFOREST, WHAT SPECIES THEY WANNA REFOREST. UM, WHAT COST SHARES AVAILABLE FOR THAT, DO THEY QUALIFY FOR THE RIPARIAN BUFFER TAX CREDIT? UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE DO MOST HAVE BEEN INVOLVE SOME KIND OF PLANNING ON THE LANDOWNER'S PART. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. SO I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS 'CAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY MORE INTERESTING. TYLER, JUST I'M GOING TO CLIMB UP ON MY SOAP BOX. SURE. UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE A ACRES HALL THAT FOR ME PLEASE? IT BOARD MEMBERS LOOK AT THAT, THAT ACRES HARVESTED AND WHEN WE HEAR THINGS LIKE, UM, IT'S JUST LAND IDLE, LAND SITTING THAT IT'S NOT A BUSINESS. UM, AND I, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT WITH DOLLAR FIGURES, BUT IT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S A GOOD DEFINITION. A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT. YES. YEAH. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FARM LAND, CROP LAND AS AS BEING SO VALUABLE, BUT TIMBERLAND IS JUST AS VALUABLE TO FARMS AND TO THESE, UM, BUSINESSES. SO IT, IT TRULY IS. UM, AND IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE FIRE PROTECTION. UM, AND THAT NUMBER WASN'T, CAN BE LOW OR HIGH DEPENDING ON HOW DRY IT IS. SO, YEP. THAT, I'M SORRY. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYBODY QUESTIONS? THAT SEGUES BEAUTIFULLY INTO LAND USE TAXATION. THAT IS, FROM A FORESTER'S PERSPECTIVE, A GREAT PROGRAM. IT ALLOWS THE FOREST LANDOWNERS A LITTLE BIT OF A TAX BREAK TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT LAND IN TIMBER BECAUSE THE TIMBER INDUSTRY PRICES ARE UP AND DOWN SO MUCH. SO IT, IT GIVES THEM SOME SECURITY OF BEING ABLE TO HOLD THAT LAND. KNOW THERE WERE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GROWING PAINS. UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM. MY PERSONAL . YEP. THAT'S GOOD. DO SEE A LOT OF ANIMALS OUT THERE SOME DAYS. YEAH. I TEND TO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE WHEN I'M IN THE WOODS, SO I DON'T SEE AS MUCH AS I COULD. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST KIDDING. I WAS JUST ASK A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, ONLY COYOTES, DO YOU I ACTUALLY DON'T USUALLY SEE COYOTES AT WORK. I TEND TO SEE SNEAKING AROUND MY HOUSE, BUT I OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK I MAKE TOO MUCH NOISE. I THINK WHAT MS. BONNER'S ASKING, CAN SHE DO A RIDE ALONG WITH YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED? THAT WOULD BE, SHE BOUGHT IN THE BULL DOLE. THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS. OH, . YOU HEAR THEM RIGHT. HEATHER? TWO QUESTIONS. SO FIR FIRST QUESTION. UM, SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE INFESTATIONS, DO YOU KEEP UP WITH, DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S HAPPENING? AND I KNOW DR. MOORE'S AREA OF THE COUNTY SEEMS TO GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM US ON THAT TO YOU. I GUESS. YES. WE, WE DON'T GO LOOKING FOR IT, BUT IF A LANDOWNER CONTACTS US OR WE NOTICE A SPOT, WE DO CATALOG IT IN OUR GIS SYSTEM. UM, WHAT THE BASIC LIFESPAN OF THE SOUTHERN PINE BARK BEETLE, IT GETS RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BARK AND IT BASICALLY GIRDLES THE TREE WITHOUT TAKING THE BARK OFF. AND SO THE TREE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW IT'S DEAD UNTIL THAT THOSE BEETLES HAVE MOVED ON TO THE NEXT TREE. WHAT WE THINK BRINGS IN THE BEETLE IS AN OLDER STRESSED TREE. SO SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE LAKE TEND TO BE, HAVE BEEN BUILT INTO PINE STANDS THAT ARE AT THAT AGE WHERE IT'S JUST SUSCEPTIBLE. THEY'RE A NATIVE PEST, WE'RE NEVER GONNA ERADICATE THEM. UM, WE JUST TEND TO HAVE OUTBREAKS WHEN WE HAVE TIMBER THAT'S PRIMED FOR IT. A LOBLAW HAS ABOUT A HUNDRED YEAR LIFESPAN. THAT'S THE PINES THEY'RE GETTING IN. THAT'S THE ONES THAT ARE MOSTLY AROUND HERE. SO JUST LIKE PEOPLE, THE OLDER YOU ARE, THE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE YOU ARE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT INSULTS OF LIFE. SO ONCE A RESIDENT NOTICES IT, DO THEY CUT THE TREE DOWN? THEY CAN. THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LET US KNOW. UM, THE BEST I GUESS, PROTECTION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE SO MANY, UM, GENERATIONS IN A LIFETIME AND THEY ARE LITERALLY, THE BUG IS THAT BIG. SO THERE'S NO, THERE ARE CHEMICALS YOU CAN USE. IT'S NOT REALLY WORTH USING THEM. UM, SO THE BEST PROTECTION IS ONCE YOU SEE THAT SPOT TO CUT ALL OF THOSE TREES AND THEN A BULLSEYE OF THE NEXT GREEN TREES AROUND IT BECAUSE THEY'VE PROBABLY ALREADY MOVED ON TO THOSE. AND SO REALLY A HARVEST IS THE ONLY WAY TO, TO SALVAGE ANYTHING OUT OF IT. GOTCHA. LAST QUESTION. SURE. IS THAT OUR TOILET PAPER OR DID YOU BRING IT WITH YOU? WELL, IT CAME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY. SO YOUR TAXES SOMEHOW PAID FOR IT. OKAY. . ALRIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REST? I NOTICED ANN LOOKED AT IT REALLY HARD WHEN HE CAME IN. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. , THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU [00:40:01] SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THAT WAS GOOD. WE'RE MOVING [7.A. Employee Health Insurance Plan For FY 2026] ON TO ACTION ITEMS. EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN FOR FY 2026, UH, AM GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. BOARD MEMBERS MS. MASSAL. UM, I'M BRINGING OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN FOR FY 26 BEFORE YOU TODAY. THE, THE LOCAL CHOICE IS OUR HEALTH INSURANCE INTERMEDIARY AND THEY HAVE, UM, PROVIDED US WITH, UM, OUR QUOTE FOR NEXT YEAR. AND SO WE NEED TO RENEW OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM BY APRIL 1ST. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, HERE TODAY IN MARCH. THE, OUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE IS LESS FAVORABLE THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR, SO OUR PREMIUMS, UM, ARE GONNA INCREASE 8.9% OVERALL, AND THAT 8.9% IS, UM, APPLIED BOTH TO THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF WHAT IS PAID TO FOR THE INSURANCE AND ALSO FOR THE EMPLOYEE'S PORTION. UM, THERE'S A CHART AS ATTACHED TO YOUR MEMO TODAY THAT EXPLAINS, UM, WHAT THE NEW RATES WOULD BE COMPARED TO THE RATES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. UM, ON THAT PAGE, OUR MOST POPULAR PLAN IS THE, THE, UM, KEY ADVANTAGE 1000 PPO AND FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY, IT WOULD GO UP FOR THE EMPLOYEE $12 A MONTH AND IT WOULD GO UP FOR $56 FOR THE THE COUNTY. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN OUR, OUR CURRENT PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS, WHAT THE, WHAT THE EMPLOYER PAY PAYS. UM, WE ARE REQUIRED AT, AT LEAST PAY AT 80% OF THE, UM, OF THE LOWEST PLAN ON THIS SHEET. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THIS. UM, WE ARE STILL OFFERING THE KEY ADVANTAGE 1000 PPO AND THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS, UM, TO OUR EMPLOYEES WITH THE D TWO DIFFERENT CHOICES OF THE DENTAL INSURANCE. AND, UM, THERE'S A RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO THE MEMO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RENEW THIS POLICY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. ANY QUESTIONS? OBJECTION. MAD. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST, AS A PERSON THAT'S RECEIVING THE PLAN, I WOULD PREFER THAT SOMEONE ON THE PANEL THAT'S NOT RECEIVING THE PLAN APPROVE THE PLAN FOR. SO WE HAVE A SOLUTION BEFORE HE, UH, TO WHAT THE BE RESOLVED? MM-HMM . YES. YES. OKAY. UM, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OR SUPERVISOR OF ITY COUNTY VIRGINIA DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE AND DIRECT KEVIN MASSENGALE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS WITH THE LOCAL CHOICE TO PROVIDE THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY FOR FYFY 2026 AT THE ATTACH RATES AND RATIOS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. DOOLEY? AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. A UH, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT. UH, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. ALRIGHT, CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENT, WE'LL GO TO COUNTY [9. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS] ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS. MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, FIRST I WANNA TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET AND SPECIFICALLY THE, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE LAST WEEK. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT IN THE TRAINING ROOM AND, UH, THOSE MEETINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY, UM, STREAMED LIKE THIS MEETING IS. SO I WANTED TO, TO KIND OF JUST GIVE A RECAP AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING IN A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, WITH THE BUDGET. UM, BUT FIRST I WANNA JUST THANK THE BOARD. I, I KNOW IT'S A PRETTY BIG COMMITMENT TO, TO COME TO THREE, FOUR DAYS OF, OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. UM, BUT I, I ALSO WANTED TO THANK COUNTY STAFF, ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, UH, OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND WE MET WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, LAST TUESDAY NIGHT AS WELL. AND, AND REALLY I THINK THE OVERALL APPROACH AND DIM WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UM, A GOOD ONE IN THE SENSE THAT, [00:45:01] YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL OR THE COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT, THAT YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND YOU REALLY KIND OF QUESTION IS THIS REALLY EVEN PERTINENT? AND I, I HOPE THROUGH THE, THE THREE DAYS THAT Y'ALL SPENT, THAT YOU SAW THE REQUEST AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THEM. UM, EVERY YEAR ANN LIKES TO SAY THAT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, A BUDGET IS A SPENDING PLAN, RIGHT? AND IT'S JUST THE BEST PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON HOW THE FINANCIAL AFFAIRS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO, ARE GOING TO BE SPENT AND HANDLED. AND, UM, WE, WE'VE ALWAYS TAKEN APPROACH HERE IN DENWOODY TO TRY TO BALANCE, UH, WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY WITH THE OVERALL COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO PAY. AND I I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S MADE US PROBABLY THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE. UM, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE, ARE VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THE, THE, THE YEARS THAT YOU ALL BEEN TOGETHER AND WITH MR. DOOLEY'S ASSISTANCE, NOW, I THINK THIS IS BUDGET TWO FOR HIM, UM, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IT GETS ANY EASIER AFTER YOUR FIRST BUDGET, BUT, UM, WE'VE ALWAYS KINDA LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC TRUST AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TAX MONEY'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. UM, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND, UH, STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, FIRE EMS LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, AFFECTS ALL DEITY COUNTY AS A WHOLE. AND AS WE BECOME AN AGING COMMUNITY, THAT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO, JUST TO TO BE THE CASE. UM, COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU MADE WORKERS' COMPENSATION THE TOP PRIORITY, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE AT THE NEAR THE END. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE, THE ABSOLUTE FINAL DOCUMENT BACK YET ON OUR CLASS AND COMP, BUT I KNOW I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL SOME OF THE SPECIFICS IN THAT. UM, AND THEN THE OVERALL REVENUE BUDGET, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, EXPENSES ARE ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT CAN COME INTO ALIGNMENT, BUT, BUT REVENUE BUDGET IS, IS WHAT IT IS. AND SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALWAYS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB. UM, YOU KNOW, I I I CALL 'EM THE TRIFECTA. IT'S JUST REALLY ANN HOWTON, LORI STEVENS AND JENNY PERKINS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT EVERYBODY GETS TO SEE THE BEHIND THE SCENES ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT HAD COME, UH, WHAT'S BEHIND THE REVENUE BUDGET. BUT GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS IF IT WASN'T FOR, AGAIN, A, THE TAXPAYER. UM, AND SO WHAT AN AMAZING RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS THAT ARE COLLECTED ARE SPENT IN A WAY THAT EVERYBODY AT HOME CAN, CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT OVERTAXING THEM, BUT THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GETTING, UM, IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. UH, SO THAT KIND OF GETS US TO THE, THE OVERALL REAL ESTATE DISCUSSION THIS YEAR. UM, EARLIER AT TWO O'CLOCK WE, WE MET IN THE TRAINING ROOM AND KIND OF WALKED THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. I JUST WANNA SUMMARIZE IT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. UM, SO YOU KNOW, WHERE PRESENTLY AT 84 CENT TAX RATE. AND SO THE EQUALIZED RATE AGAIN, IS THE RATE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS ON REAL ESTATE. AGAIN, REAL ESTATE IS ONE AREA OF REVENUE, UH, FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. NOW IT'S A LARGE REVENUE STREAM, THE LARGEST REVENUE STREAM. UM, AND I I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY THAT IF YOU TOOK THE ENTIRE REVENUE BUDGET, IT, IT ALMOST COVERS, NOT COMPLETELY, BUT IT ALMOST COVERS WHAT YOU GIVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MANUALLY. SO THE COUNTY'S LEFT TRYING TO, TO BALANCE THE REST OF THE COUNTY ON, ON SOME OF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND THE OTHER OTHER FORMS OF, OF TAXATION. NO SECRET. WE DID A REASSESSMENT THIS YEAR, SIX YEARS WORTH OF, OF GROWTH DURING THAT, THAT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, THAT IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, WE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE IMMEDIATELY START TO DO A, UH, ANOTHER REASSESSMENT AGAIN TRYING TO, TO STAY ON TOP OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT. WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM OUR PUBLIC THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO WAIT FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO, TO DO ANOTHER ONE. AND SO, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE THIS YEAR. UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE AT 84 CENTS. THE EQUALIZE RATE IS THE SAME AMOUNT ON THE REAL ESTATE FIGURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE IN THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM, UM, THAN WE, THAN WE HAD AT 84 CENTS. SO THE NUMBER THAT, THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER, AND AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC AT HOME IS THAT NUMBER IS NOW 56 CENTS. SO THAT'S A 28 CENT DROP FROM WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY AT 84 CENTS. SO WHAT YOU ALL ASKED ME TO DO LAST WEDNESDAY WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS IT RELATES TO THAT PARTICULAR, UM, EQUALIZED RATE, OVERALL REVENUE BUDGET [00:50:01] AND WHERE SOME OF THE EXPENSES ARE. WHAT I SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER TODAY, IF I TOOK ALL THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, UM, THE DO COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND THE OTHER TRANSFERS THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY TO SOCIAL SERVICES, CHILDREN'S SERVICES, SCHOOL DEBT, COUNTY DEBT, UM, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY THIS YEAR FOR THE CREATION OF A, A, UM, A NEW REPLACEMENT FUND. AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY FOR, UH, FIRE FIREFIGHTER VEHICLES, UH, AMBULANCES, PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOL BUSES, AND, AND SPECIFIC, UM, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD QUALIFY LARGE TYPES OF REPLACEMENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME LAST YEAR FROM THE WORKING GROUP THAT WORKS ON YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THE WORRY WAS ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM WAS THIS, THIS NOW IS PRESENTLY BEING PAID FOR OUT OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE LEFT OVER AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT GO, UM, TO THE GENERAL FUND. UM, TO, AND AT THAT POINT CAN BE APPROPRIATED TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. SO THE IDEA OF THE WORKING GROUP, WAS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT OUT OF THE, OUT OF YOUR, UH, BUDGET OR OUTTA YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET AND INTO YOUR REOCCURRING UH, OPERATING BUDGET? THAT THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD PROJECT, A GOOD PROGRAM. 'CAUSE YOU WOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE ITEMS, UH, MORE EFFECTIVELY. UH, THAT IN OF ITSELF IS ABOUT A $1.8 MILLION INCREASE IF YOU DECIDED TO DO THAT. SO, SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, FROM THE REVENUE THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE AT 56 CENTS OVERALL, INCLUDING THAT EQUALIZED, AGAIN, REAL ESTATE RATE TO WHERE YOU ARE WITH EVERY EVERYBODY'S REQUEST, UM, YOU'RE OVER SIX AND A HALF, $7 MILLION NEEDING TO BE CUT TO BRING THAT BACK INTO ALIGNMENT. UH, SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AGAIN, AT, AT AT 56 CENTS, UM, THERE IS A WAY TO, TO GET THE BUDGET BALANCED AND OF COURSE IT'S UP TO YOU ALL ON, ON HOW TO DO THAT. THE FIRST IS THAT THE, THE REPLACEMENT FUND I JUST SPOKE OF WOULDN'T TAKE PLACE. SO YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, YOU WOULD NEED TO TO LEVEL FUND THE DIY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. AS YOU KNOW, THEY FIRST CAME IN, UH, SPECIFICALLY THINKING THAT THEY NEEDED SOMEWHERE AROUND 2.3 MILLION. THE HOUSE AND SENATE VERSION OF THE BUDGET WAS, WAS MORE FAVORABLE THAN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. THAT WOULD, UM, GIVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS MORE, UM, IN, IN LOCAL ESTATE FUNDING. SO THEN THE REQUEST WAS APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY TO PICK UP IN A 56 CENT, UH, TAX SCENARIO. I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO, TO DO ANY MORE THERE. UH, WE HAD ABOUT 2.4 MILLION IN, IN NEW, UM, POSITION REQUEST AND A LOT OF THOSE, UH, POSITIONS WERE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIELD. UM, WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THOSE NEW, ANY OF THOSE NEW POSITIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO TO BE FUNDED. UH, YOUR TOP PRIORITY LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR WAS CLASS AND COMPENSATION. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT IS RELATED TO GETTING A 50 CENT TAX INCREASE OR 56 50 6 CENTS FROM THE REAL ESTATE DOLLAR, UH, YOU POTENTIALLY COULD DO ABOUT HALF OF THE CLASS IN COMP THIS YEAR. YOU WOULD NEED TO DO THE OTHER HALF, UH, NEXT YEAR FOR THAT. YOU DO END UP HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS. IF YOU WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE OF WHICH IT'S ABOUT THREE OR $400,000, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD A POSITION HERE OR THERE OR YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT AT THE CLASS AND COMP DIFFERENTLY. BUT WE THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT HALF. SO WE ALSO, UM, AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST LOOKED AT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE AT 59 CENTS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO GO JUST, JUST TO, UM, TO 59 CENTS. AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU COULD DO ABOUT HALF OF THE CLASS IN COMPENSATION. UM, THERE, THERE ARE A FEW POSITIONS. I'M STILL CUTTING 1.7 MILLION OUT OF THE 2.4 MILLION IN NEW BUDGET REQUEST. AND, AND THAT, AT THAT, AT THAT TAX RATE, UM, AND I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY GIVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ABOUT HALF OF THEIR REQUEST. UM, IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH THAT, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE REPLACEMENT FUND. 'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT REPLACEMENT FUND IN AND OF ITSELF ABOUT 1.89 MILLION IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT A A 5 CENTS IN, IN AND OF ITSELF. AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID EARLIER, WE THINK THE VALUE OF ONE PENNY AS YOU'RE DOING IT IN YOUR, IN YOUR HEAD IS, IS $372,000 IS THE VALUE OF A PENNY. SO EVERY PENNY YOU WOULD GO UP IS, IT WOULD BE REALISTIC TO THINK YOU COULD GET THAT 3 72. ANY PENNY YOU GO DOWN, YOU WOULD LOSE THAT 3 72. SO THE BOARD ALSO ASKED ME TO GO FURTHER THAN 59 CENTS. AND SO AT 64 CENTS, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS FULL IMPLEMENTATION IN FFY 26 OF THE CLASS AND COMPENSATION PLAN. THE NEW POSITIONS WE [00:55:01] STILL WOULD HOLD TO, UM, BASICALLY FOUR AREAS INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES. BUT WE WOULD STILL BE REMOVING AT THIS 0.1 $0.7 MILLION OUT OF THAT REQUEST. I THINK YOUR, YOUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, REQUEST WOULD STILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED, ABOUT 663,000 OR SO. UM, AND, AND YOU COULD DO AT 64 CENT THE, UH, THE REPLACEMENT FUND. UH, IF YOU DECIDED TO DO THAT, IF YOU, UM, WE DID, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T ASKED TO GO ANY HIGHER THAN 64 CENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH, AGAIN, FOR EACH PENNY THAT YOU WOULD GO UP, YOU COULD GET A, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO IF IT WAS THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO, UH, INCLUDE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES, WE WOULD EITHER A NEED TO FIND ADDITIONAL WAYS TO CUT OR WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, MAKE SOME MOVEMENT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I WILL SAY AT 64 CENTS, I'M STILL NOT AT A BALANCED BUDGET. WE STILL ARE, MS. HOWERTON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, WE'RE WE'RE STILL PROBABLY 1.3 TO $1.4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL CUTS THAT STILL NEED TO BE MADE EVEN AT THE 64 CENT RATE. UM, I BELIEVE THERE ARE WAYS TO TO, TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CUTS, UM, FROM WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED THERE. BUT AGAIN, THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FEEL. SO THE WAY I WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IF YOU'RE DECIDING IF YOU WANNA STAY AT 56 CENTS, YOU BRING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE, YOU CAN DO SOME CLASSING COMP THIS YEAR, PRETTY MUCH THE OTHER ITEMS WOULD NOT BE ADDRESSED THIS YEAR. IF YOU, UM, WERE LOOKING AT AN 8 CENT ADJUSTMENT, I WOULD THINK THE 5 CENTS OF THAT WOULD BE TO THE REPLACEMENT PLAN. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO THE REPLACEMENT PLAN, WHICH WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THAT 5 CENTS. YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 2 CENTS THAT WOULD GO TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO COVER THAT SIX LITTLE OVER $600,000. AND THEN WE'VE GOT ABOUT ONE PENNY THAT I THINK POTENTIALLY CAN SUPPORT, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. AND AGAIN, MAINLY IN THAT POSITION LIST IS, UM, HEAVILY TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. YOU DO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER KEY POSITIONS THAT I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST, MAY NEED TO BE FUNDED. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW WE, WE, WE HAD ABOUT AN HOUR CONVERSATION EARLIER. I WAS GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THAT. UH, BUT AT, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO PUT AN AD IN THE NEWSPAPER ON WHAT YOU ALL WOULD WISH, UH, FOR US TO CONSIDER OR FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AS YOUR BUDGET FOR REAL ESTATE, UM, FOR FY 26. SO I JUST AS A REMINDER, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN AFTER A HEARING. YOU JUST CAN'T GO THE OTHER WAY. SO YOU, YOU HAVE HEARD, UM, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO ME EARLIER, IF YOU WERE TO DO EVERYTHING WE WANTED OR WHAT WAS REQUESTED, NOT WANTED, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING PROBABLY CLOSER TO 70 CENT IF IT'S EVERYTHING ALL IN. UM, THE HIGHEST I WAS ASKED TO GO WAS 64. AND, UH, IN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES PREVIOUSLY, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE A FEEL FOR WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. SO THE AD NEEDS TO BE DONE DIRECTION TODAY, A WILL. AND YOU, YOU'RE TAKING THAT TO THE PAPER ON THURSDAY, I BELIEVE. THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST A COUPLE DAYS AWAY FROM, FROM NEEDING TO, TO DO THAT. UM, THAT WOULD BE ADVERTISED TWICE, I BELIEVE IN THE PAPER. IT WILL, IT WILL REFERENCE THE EQUALIZED RATE. IT, IT'S PRETTY DETAILED AS TO WHAT THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET AD, UH, IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO LOOK LIKE. AND SO WE'LL MIRROR, MIRROR THAT. UM, BUT THE, THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL AND, AND SOME CONVERSATION, GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. UM, YOU SPECIFICALLY, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE THE HEARING ON YOUR RATES AND SPECIFICALLY YOUR, UH, REAL ESTATE RATE? ALRIGHT. UM, I GUESS THE BEST THING, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMAL, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT NUMBER. AND THEN, UM, WE'LL, UH, SOMEBODY CAN COME UP WITH A MOTION. SO ANY THOUGHTS? I'LL, I'LL START. UM, THE COMMENT WAS MADE IN THE WORKSHOP THAT PERHAPS WE GO AT 65 AS THE ADVERTISED RATE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE REQUESTED FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY THERE TO DROP IT DOWN TO WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE AFTER WE RECEIVE THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS OPPOSED TO GETTING WORSE NUMBERS THAN PROJECTED AND HAVING TO THEN SCRAMBLE TO DO CUTS AND OTHER THINGS. SO, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WISE TO, TO SET IT MAYBE A, A PENNY HIGHER THAN, THAN [01:00:01] WHAT WE KNOW IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF, OF ROOM FOR, FOR MOVEMENT SHOULD WORST CASE SCENARIO HAPPEN. OKAY. DR. MO, MY NUMBER 64, I'VE SAID THAT EARLIER TODAY. I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH WITHIN THAT AND, AND GO DOWN IF WE HAVE TO GO DOWN. BUT, UH, THE ONLY THING I WANNA COMMENT ON IS THIS IS PROBABLY A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE'VE, THAT WE HAVE, FIRST OF ALL, THIS BOARD HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, REEVALUATION OF PROPERTY. THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT, THAT ARE COMPLETELY AFFECTING OUR DECISIONS. ONE IS JUST INFLATION IN GENERAL, WHICH IS AFFECTING EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN AMERICA. UM, THE OTHER IS WAGE INFLATION, WHICH IS THE OTHER PIECE OF A PUZZLE THAT IS AFFECTING EVERY BUSINESS AND EVERY COMMUNITY, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. AND SO IT'S KIND OF A PERFECT STORM THAT'S OCCURRING AT THE PRESENT TIME. UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH THOSE ENTITIES COMBINED IN THE PAST. UH, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ONE SIDE, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE WE'VE GOT ON BOTH SIDES. AND, UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW WHAT THE EFFECTIVE RATE IS, BUT I WOULD BE INCLINED TO, UM, PUT 64 AS THE ADVERTISED RATE FOR OUR REAL ESTATE BOTTOM. OH. UM, I, I DO AGREE, UM, WITH, UM, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, I GUESS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE RECESSIONS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND INFLATIONS AND EVERYTHING, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. AND, UM, WITH THE GOVERNOR, UH, HE HAS NOT SIGNED THE BUDGET YET, SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. UM, WE DO KNOW WE, THEY HAVE A LARGE FUND BALANCE THERE IN THE STATE, IN THE, UM, FOR THE STATE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. SO, UM, IT IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AT THIS TIME. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT AND NUMBERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THINGS COST. AND I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS LOOKING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS LOOKING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO GET IT RIGHT WITH, WITH THE COUNTY AND AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL. SO, UM, I'M LOOKING AT, YEAH, I KNOW WE CAN'T GO UP, BUT I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT POSSIBLY, UM, 65 AND THEN GO, AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS GO DOWN. BUT, UM, UM, ONE, ONCE WE GET THE NUMBERS IN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL, WE CAN, UM, REEVALUATE AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL. THANK YOU. WELL, WELL, UH, I, YOU KNOW, HOW I FEEL ABOUT GOING UP, UM, I GO WITH THE MARK, UM, 64%. THE STAFF HAS WORKED HARD AND THEY CAME UP WITH, UH, 64. SO THAT'S WHERE, UH, MY THOUGHTS AT. UM, I'M ALWAYS FORWARD, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP EVERYONE OUT. AND I KNOW THERE WE'RE NOT GONNA EVER COVER EVERYTHING THAT THE WANTS. IT'S A WANT, YOU KNOW, IS IT A NEED? THAT'S THE BIG THING. WHAT I LOOK AT, UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, I AGREE WITH MARK IS 64 AND, UM, SO THAT'S ALRIGHT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I'M KIND OF WITH CASEY, UM, ON THE SCHOOL. UM, WE DIDN'T GET A NUMBER THAT WE, WE PROBABLY NEEDED. UM, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT GOING TO CIP, WHICH WOULD, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT NUMBER, UH, QUICK ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT PENNY COMES IN. UM, AT 65, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. UM, 'CAUSE WE CAN CALM DOWN AND I'M ALL ABOUT COMING DOWN IF WE NEED TO. I DON'T WANNA SPEND A PENNY IF WE DON'T NEED TO. THE, THE ONE THING ABOUT THE GENERAL REASSESSMENT, THERE, THERE ARE HIGHS AND LOWS ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. SO SOME CITIZENS WILL PAY LESS WITH THEIR NEW REASSESSMENT, SOME WILL PAY MORE. BUT THE BIG THING WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT IS THAT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN, WE DON'T WANT THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING LESS TO PAY TREMENDOUSLY LESS AND THE ONES THAT'LL PAYING MORE TO PAY TREMENDOUSLY MORE. SO IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSE TO, TO WHERE IT WAS. SO, SO I, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF 65, BUT, UH, [01:05:01] AGAIN, WE, WE'LL, UH, A MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I REALLY DON'T NEED A MOTION. I THINK I NEED A CONSENSUS. OKAY. BUT IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION, IT SEEMED AS IF YOU, YOU CORRECT ME, UM, THAT LEE BONNER AND DULEY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF 65 CENT ADVERTISEMENT, UM, MORE IN CHAVIS AT 64. IS THERE ANY, IT SEEMS TO ME THE CONSENSUS IS 65 UNLESS THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD. EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID. YEAH. YEP. AND, AND THE GOOD THING EVERYBODY'S FEELINGS WERE CHAD, SO, RIGHT. UM, RIGHT. YEP. AND MR. LEE, YOUR POINT EARLIER, I KNOW WE, WE DID THIS, YOU AND I IN MY OFFICE EARLIER TODAY. I, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE, UH, EVEN YOU LOOK AT THE REASSESSMENT, UM, AND, AND ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, A DEWINE COUNTY RESIDENT, AND THEY PAY TAXES. I DO, JUST LIKE YOU ALL DO, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTLY PAYING AT 84 CENTS AND ALSO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD BE AT 64 CENTS OR SOME NUMBER THEREOF. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, I WANT, I, I WANT YOU ALL TO, TO REALLY THINK HARD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS NEW CONCEPT OF A REPLACEMENT FUND. THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS 5 CENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK THROUGH. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, REALLY THOSE ITEMS LIKE POLICE CARS AND SCHOOL BUSES, PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES, UM, MAINLY AMBULANCES AND FIRE APPARATUS AS WELL AS YOUR BIGGER IT ITEMS, THIS FUND WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE, THOSE, UH, FIVE PENNIES EACH YEAR TO BE PUT INTO THAT REPLACEMENT PLAN. AND, AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE, AGAIN, ENCUMBERING YOUR CIP IT WOULD BE MORE IN AN OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. WE'VE NOT DONE THAT BEFORE AND, UH, WE STILL MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT THOUGH, MOVING FORWARD, YOU, YOU PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE A GOOD REPLACEMENT CYCLE OF ALL THOSE ITEMS. THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AWAY. THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AWAY, AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED ON SOME TYPE OF, OF REALISTIC, UM, SCHEDULE. BUT IF, IF YOU DO, I MEAN, IF FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OR YOU LOOK AT THE, THE VALUE, I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE, I'VE HAD A LOT OF PHONE CALLS SINCE THE REASSESSMENT AND I'VE ALSO SAT DOWN WITH PEOPLE AND E EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF WHAT THEIR HOUSE, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT THE EQUALIZED RATE IS FOR THEM. UH, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HIT A SPECIFIC NUMBER THAT, THAT EVERYBODY IS TREATED EQUAL. THE, THE CODE CONTEMPLATES THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEFINED WHAT IS THE EQUALIZED RATE FOR BUDGET TO BUDGET. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS CONTEMPLATING. SO, UM, I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT IT, IT REALLY ISN'T INTENDED THAT EVERYONE HAD THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IMPACT, RIGHT. IMPACT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE THE REASSESSMENT CHANGED BASED ON MARKET IN THAT PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS FOR, UH, AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES. WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE, WE TALK ABOUT OTHER, OTHER PIECES OF THE PIE. SO, UH, A LOT OF CHANCE TO, AND THE, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THE HEARING THAT PEOPLE COME OUT AND, AND SPEAK THEIR, THEIR MIND AS IT RELATES TO THIS. UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE VERY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS AND WE HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, THE ONLY, ONLY OTHER COMMENT, TWO OTHER COMMENTS. ONE, UM, I HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND THE FIRE AND EMS AWARDS CEREMONY, UM, I GUESS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO NOW, SATURDAY. AND, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I SAID IT THERE AND I'LL, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS 99% OF THE PEOPLE, TRULY 99% OF THE PUBLIC HAS, HAS NO, UM, THEY JUST NEVER DONE THIS JOB. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS JOB WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A, SOMEBODY PUTS ON A UNIFORM EVERY MORNING. UM, AND WE LIVE IN A WORLD THAT JUDGES AND DRAW DRAWS CRITICISM, UH, TO ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. IN SOME WAYS, WE'RE FORTUNATE IN DEWINE COUNTY TO HAVE A VERY SUPPORTIVE PUBLIC THAT SUP THAT REALLY TRULY SUPPORTS FIRE AND EMS, BUT I KNOW THEY DON'T DO IT FOR AWARDS AND, AND RECOGNITIONS AS WELL AS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU ALL. UM, I JUST WANNA PUBLICLY THANK EVERYBODY THAT WAS A PART OF THAT EVENT AND FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 9 1 1, THEY NEED HELP AND THEY NEED ASSISTANCE. AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WAKE UP EVERY DAY WILLING TO SACRIFICE NOT MAKING IT HOME FOR DINNER, YOU KNOW, MISSING THE HOLIDAYS. AND IT JUST WAS A, WAS A VERY HUMBLING PROGRAM. UH, I HAD THE CHANCE TO STEP ASIDE [01:10:01] REVEREND ROWLAND WITH SMYRNA BAPTIST CHURCH, AND IT WAS LIKE, EACH STORY THAT WAS TOLD JUST GOT MORE PROFOUND THAN THE THE OTHER ONE. AND SO THIS, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN A LOT OF US ARE GOING, GOING TO BED. UM, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THE LAST THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT. UM, I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE I GOT A CALL ON SATURDAY, AND THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO THE, THE CONCERN THAT THE COUNTY WAS EVALUATING OR HAD MADE A DECISION TO BUILD A $2 MILLION SIDEWALK SO THAT COUNTY EMPLOYEES COULD GO TO THE ROUTE ONE COUNTRY STORE, UH, TO BUY A SANDWICH. UM, SO I WANTED TO ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY TO, TO THAT COMMENT PUBLICLY. UM, THE COUNTY WAS APPROACHED BY, UH, A LOCAL SCHOOL HERE AT DIY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL QUITE SOME TIME AGO ABOUT EVALUATING THE SAFE MOVEMENT OF SOME OF THE STUDENTS TO THE LIBRARY AND, AND FOR THE LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT STUDENTS, UH, AARON FRENCH, WHO, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER, UH, EVALUATED, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. AND OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWS, UH, THAT THE VILLAGE AREA HERE AROUND, UH, THE, THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE THAT IT COULD EXPAND INTO BEING A LITTLE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. SO WE JUST SIMPLY ASKED VDOT TO, TO LOOK INTO WHAT PROGRAMS EXISTED THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD PAY FOR THIS PROGRAM. UH, SO VDOT CAME BACK WITH A GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS IN WHICH THE GRANT WOULD COVER UP TO UP TO 1.6 MILLION AND THAT THE LOCALITY COULD THEN UP TO, UH, PROVIDE A MATCH UP TO $400,000. SO THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT POTENTIAL FOR THAT SIDEWALK IS CORRECT. IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE WOULD BE UP TO $2 MILLION. THE QUESTION OF THIS BOARD, UH, A IT WAS NEVER $2 MILLION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING. UH, B YOU ALL HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE TOTAL OPTION YET. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT. HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I MEAN, I, I, I KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE FAMILIAR. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT NO FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED AT THIS POINT, UH, TO DO THAT PROJECT. UH, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED. AND, AND ULTIMATELY WHEN, UH, MOST RECENTLY WE CAME BACK WITH THAT, THE, THE APPLICATION, UH, AND THE COST AGAIN IS, IS ROUGHLY $2 MILLION. THAT, THAT $2 MILLION WOULD NOT FUND THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF SIDEWALK THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. UH, SO AT, AT THIS TIME, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN. UM, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT YOUR BUDGET AND SPECIFICALLY WHERE, WHERE YOUR BUDGET IS. UM, YOU'VE NOT BEEN ASKED TO MATCH 400,000 TO GET 1.6 MILLION. UH, THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT STAFF AND WHEN WE ARE EVALUATING, WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT PROJECT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT I DID FEEL LIKE IT NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION. UH, IT'S NOT $2 MILLION OF LOCAL TAXPAYER MONEY, AND THE PURPOSE OF IT ISN'T TO GET PEOPLE FROM THIS BUILDING TO THE ROUTE ONE COUNTRY STORE TO BUY A SANDWICH. UH, BUT IT IS LOOKING AT, UH, THE POTENTIAL TO ADD SIDEWALKS THROUGH THE VILLAGE. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE PARTICULAR MEANS TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THAT WAS NECESSARY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SIDEWALK PROJECT, UM, AS BEST AS WE KNOW IT. UM, AND THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY IS I HAD A REAL UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY EARLIER TODAY TO, UH, ADDRESS OUR NEW, UH, CHAMBER, OUR AFFILIATE SOVA, UH, PREVIOUSLY THE CITY OF COLONIAL HEIGHTS AND THE CITY OF PETERSBURG HAVE COUNTY GIVEN A STATE OF THE COMMUNITY ADDRESS. I HAD A CHANCE TO, TO DO THAT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY TODAY. MS. INGRAM AND MS. ENGLISH WERE THERE FOR THAT. UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS KIND OF QUESTION WHEN WE GET INTO A NEW VENTURE, WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT THING OR NOT, BUT THIS WAS A, A PACKED ROOM, UH, A LOT OF VIBRANT BUSINESSES, NOT ONLY JUST IN DIMITY COUNTY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SAY ECONOMIES, ALL ECONOMIES ARE ARE LOCAL, RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALLY GET TO SEE THE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY THAT'S SUPPORTING, THAT ARE INVESTING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY'RE GIVEN JOB OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A, A BIG DAY I THOUGHT TO, TO CONTINUE TO, TO KIND OF ENHANCE THAT RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH SOVA. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. YEAH. IF, IF I COULD HAVE ONE SECOND PLEASE. I JUST NEED A, A HEAD NOD THAT YOU ALL WANNA LEAVE THE OTHER TAX RATES AS THEY ARE. UM, BECAUSE THIS TAX AD THAT GOES OUT WILL INCLUDE ALL THE TAX RATES. YOU WILL BE SETTING THE TAX RATES FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ITEMS AT, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT JUST REAL ESTATE. SO I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY YOU WANNA LEAVE EVERYTHING AS IT WAS. AND SO, SO THE CALENDAR YEAR 2025 WOULD BE THE SAME AS 2026, [01:15:01] EXCEPT FOR REAL ESTATE, WHICH WOULD BE AT 64 CENT OR 65 CENT, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THE, AND THE TAX RELIEF FOR QUALIFYING MOTOR VEHICLES WOULD STAY AT 34% AS WELL. OKAY. ALL THE OTHER TAXES WOULD STAY AS THEY ARE. THE ONLY ONE WE WOULD PROPOSE ANY CHANGE TO WOULD BE THE REAL ESTATE RATE. OKAY. SO THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OF THE SAME CONSENSUS THAT ALL THE OTHER RATES WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN IN CALENDAR YEAR 2024. 24. OKAY. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, ANN. APPRECIATE THAT. ALRIGHT, UH, WE'LL MOVE [10. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] ON TO BOARD MEMBER, MEMBER OF COMMENTS. WE'LL START WITH MR. CHAVIS. WELL, AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR IS NOT MY FAVORITE TIME. YEAH. WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE GO THROUGH TO GET TO THIS POINT. SET A RATE, AND IT SEEMS THAT DAN LEE AND I ABOUT EVERY TIME WE LOVE EACH OTHER , BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR TAXES, IT SEEMS THAT HE AND I ARE ALWAYS ON DIFFERENT SKILLS. BUT THERE YOU GO. BUT WE'LL GO GET IT DONE. UM, IF YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T FUND EVERYTHING, THAT'S ONE THING WE FOUND OUT. SO, BUT WITH THAT, I PASS IT ON DOWN. WE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO STAY TOGETHER THOUGH. I KNOW. I LOVE YOU. DOESN'T BOTHER. OH, LAUGHING AT YOU TOO. OKAY. UM, UH, OF COURSE, UH, THE, THE AWARD CEREMONY FOR THE FIRE EMTS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY GOOD. AND LISTENING TO SOME OF THE STORIES WAS ALSO, UM, UM, REALLY, UM, EYE-OPENING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH. SO, AND IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, MY, MY HEAD GOES OFF TO THEM, UM, AND ALSO PRAYING FOR THEM BECAUSE IT'S A LOT THEY HAVE TO DO WHEN THEY'RE ON THE ROAD. SO, UM, I COULD THANK THEM FOR THAT. AND ALSO, UM, TO ANNOUNCE ALSO THE, THE TEEN EXPO IS COMING UP ON APRIL 12TH AT RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE. AND, UM, DR. MOORE AND I HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL GOING EVERY YEAR . SO, AND WE ARE GOING AGAIN, HOPEFULLY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS CAN COME AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO REGISTER ONLINE WITH THE COUNTY WEBSITE THROUGH, UM, MARCH THE 31ST TO COME. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP ALREADY. WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT THEY ALL COME. UH, THE TN EXPO IS JUST A GREAT THING. UM, RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE, THANKING THEM FOR HAVING US EVERY YEAR. AND, UM, JUST, JUST A GOOD TIME. AND I THINK, UM, LAST YEAR, UM, THE STUDENTS FOR COLLEGE, THEY GOT A LOT OF NICE THINGS AND THEY WERE JUST SO HAPPY JUST GOING ACROSS WITH, UH, LAPTOPS AND TVS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SO, UM, BUT THEY SEEM TO ENJOY, THEY HAVE, THEY ARE TELLING THEIR FRIENDS, AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR, UM, THEM TO REGISTER FOR THAT. AND AGAIN, IT'S APRIL THE 12TH, SO THEY CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND, UH, TRY TO COME AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. IT'S ON A SATURDAY, SO THEY CAN GIVE UP SATURDAY AND COME AND DO SOME GREAT THINGS. . OKAY. DR. MOLE. YEP. UM, LIKE TO THANK DR. FIGGY FOR COMING AND BEING WITH US TODAY. WE'RE BRIGHT POINT, UH, WE'RE KIND OF BLESSED BECAUSE WE HAVE A TRIANGLE, I CALL IT THE 507 SQUARE MILES OF DENWITTY COUNTY. YOU'VE GOT THREE COLLEGES THAT OUR COMMUNITIES KIND OF GRAVITATE TO. UM, NONE ARE FOUR YEAR INSTITUTIONS. THEY'RE TWO YEAR INSTITUTIONS. BUT THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT IN WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY OFFER IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. UM, BETWEEN SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITH AND RICHARD BLAND, UH, COLLEGE AS WELL AS BRIGHT POINT. THE UNIQUENESS THAT I SEE ABOUT BRIGHT POINT IS JUST THEIR TOTAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE, UM, AT, AT THE, UM, AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL. UH, WHETHER IT'S COLLEGE AND CAREER IN PARTICULAR, UM, IN THE CHA CHESTER CAMPUS. UM, THEY OFFER SOME THINGS THAT THE OTHER TWO DO NOT OFFER. UM, SO I JUST AM A BIG PROPONENT. USE THE DOLLARS THAT WE SAVE BY GOING TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR A RICHARD BLAND, UM, IS BIG MONEY WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO PUT A CHILD THROUGH SCHOOL. UH, I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE A AN RBC GRADUATE. UM, BUT BOTH OF MY OTHER CHILDREN TOOK DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES THROUGH BRIGHT POINT. AND SO THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE, UM, TO HAVING THAT OFFERED. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THAT. UH, AND JUST REMEMBER THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. UH, WITH OUR GRADUATING CLASSES OF AROUND 300, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A SEGMENT THAT'S GONNA GO TO COLLEGE. YOU'VE GOT A SEGMENT THAT'S GOING INTO THE WORKFORCE. WELL, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT, UM, THAT ARE IN THE, THE TRIFECTA. I SAY, UH, OF OPPORTUNITY. [01:20:01] UM, LET ME THANK, UM, THE DR. WESTON AND THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF MEETING WITH THEM, THEM SHARING THEIR BUDGET, SHARING THEIR VISION WITH US. AND THEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM. UM, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE'S, THERE'S A BIG ASK, BUT, UM, WE WILL MEET THEM AT SOME POINT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT'S GONNA BE, BUT, BUT WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS, THE FACULTY THAT'S INVOLVED WITH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND, UH, HOW THEY CHANGE LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS. SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THEM. AND THE LAST, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF FOR THE THREE DAYS. I WANT TO THANK MY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS FOR COMING IN AND MEETING WITH THIS BOARD AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. UM, YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW BIG THE PICTURE IS UNTIL EVERY ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS COMES AND STANDS BEFORE YOU. ONE, WE ASK, WHAT DO YOU DO? BUT TWO, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS? AND, UH, I WOULD SAY TODAY THAT ALL OF THEM ARE GREAT STEWARDS OF THE DENWITTY TAXPAYER DOLLAR. AND, UH, IT'S OUR JOB AS A BOARD TO CONTINUE TO, NUMBER ONE, SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY WITH THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT'S EDUCATIONAL, WHETHER IT'S FIRE AND RESCUE, OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT WE WORK WITH. AND, UH, SO THANK YOU TO OUR MAIN STAFF, KEVIN ANN, UM, PUSHED PUTTING THE PENCIL TO THE PAPER, UH, OF GIVING US OUR OPTIONS OF, OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO. UH, WHETHER IT'S HIGH OR LOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE STATED THAT TO US, AND NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE AS WE GO FORWARD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. DOOLEY. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. I THINK, UH, DR. MOORE, HIS EYESIGHT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN MINE. UH, I THINK HE WAS READING MY NOTES , BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME. UM, I, I JUST THINK SCHOOL STAFF AND, AND COUNTY STAFF, THEY HAVE ANSWERED ALL OUR QUESTIONS. THEY'VE GOTTEN BACK TO US WITH, WITH DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. UM, THEY'VE INFORMED US OF OUR OPTIONS. I, I THINK THE BIG THING THAT OUR COMMUNITY KNOWS IS THAT THERE'S AN INCREASING DEMAND ON THE TYPE OF SERVICE THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESIRES. UH, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, TO GIVE THEM A HIGH QUALITY OF SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S WITH DMV SELECT OR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE STEPPING UP AND PROVIDING REALLY, REALLY GOOD SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE PUT THEM IN THE POSITION THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO, TO GIVE THAT SERVICE. SO THANK YOU TO THEM. THANK YOU TO THE ONE CITIZEN THAT SHOWED UP FOR ALL THREE DAYS. UM, I THINK THAT WAS A FANTASTIC CHALLENGE THAT MR. LEE GAVE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE CITIZEN WALKED AWAY SAYING, WOW, YOUR STAFF ARE REALLY GOOD STEWARDS OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE ENTRUSTED WITH. SO I HOPE THAT MORE PEOPLE BECOME INVOLVED. I HOPE THAT THEY COME AND LOOK AND, AND GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS WITH US AND, AND SEE HOW REALLY IMPRESSIVE OUR STAFF IS WHEN, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PINCHING A PENNY. SO THANK YOU TO THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CASEY. AND, AND YOU'RE AT A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR ME, WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT WE HAD THE ONE CITIZEN, UM, CALL AND WE ACTUALLY ALLOWED HER A LOT OF FREEDOM TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. AND I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH HER QUESTIONS. SHE DIDN'T AGREE WITH US ABOUT EVERYTHING, AND I DIDN'T EXPECT HER TO AGREE WITH US ABOUT EVERYTHING. BUT HER THOUGHTS WERE GOOD THOUGHTS. THEY WERE COUNTYWIDE THOUGHTS. UM, AND I WAS THINKING HOW NICE IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THERE TO HEAL THE THREE DAYS. UM, I KNOW WE COULDN'T DO INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS LIKE WE DID WITH AFFORD HER, BUT WE COULD THINK ABOUT BREAKING EVERY MM-HMM . HOUR OR TWO, AND THEN ASK THAT GROUP OF CITIZENS QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG. AND, AND IT WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO US, UM, FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE THINKING ALONG THE WAY. UH, 'CAUSE LIKE BILL SAID, IT, IT, I MEAN, THOSE THREE DAYS ARE INTENSE. UM, SO MANY NUMBERS. SO, SO MUCH NEED. UM, YOU KNOW, ANIMAL CONTROL STICKS OUT THIS YEAR. ALVIN WORKS ALL THE TIME. YES. BUT HE'S NOT THE ONLY STAFF THAT WORKS ALL THE TIME. ALVIN JUST HAS A LITTLE BETTER WAY OF, OF, UH, SAYING IT SOMETIMES. SO, UM, ANYWAY, AND THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THANK STAFF FOR, UM, FOR DOING WHAT THEY DID. UM, CHIEF KIEL WAS THERE EVERY DAY. I HOPE HE APPRECIATED THE, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE GO THROUGH. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL [01:25:01] WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, FEDERAL WORKERS TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID LAST WEEK. WELL, THIS BOARD KNOWS WHAT, WHAT OUR STAFF IS, IS DOING, AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT. UM, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE BUDGET, UM, WE MIGHT HIRE A CHIEF, BUT WE'RE GETTING AN INDIAN WITH, WITH THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT REFERENCE MR. CHAVIS. BUT, UH, I'M PROUD TO BE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S A GOOD PART ABOUT A DENWOODY COUNTY EMPLOYEE IS THEY'RE BOTH, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THAT, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE IT MM-HMM . IT, IT, IT WORKS. UH, FIRE AND EMS AWARDS, UM, I REALLY ENJOY THE EVENING, EVERYTHING FROM START TO FINISH. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR VOLUNTEERS, WE'VE GOT OUR CAREER. UM, KEVIN SAID THAT, UM, THE REVEREND SAID HE COULDN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE, AND THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR AN OUTSIDER TO NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. THAT MEANS THAT THE SYSTEM'S WORKING. UM, SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S VERY GOOD. UM, THAT THE LAST THING I'VE GOT, UM, AND MARIE KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER, UM, KEVIN HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT. AND, UH, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING STORY, AND I'M GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH IT FROM START TO FINISH AND IT'S GOT A PRETTY SPECIAL ENDING FOR ME IN IT ALL. BUT, UH, THERE WAS A NEW MARIAL, UM, UNVEILED AT VCU HONOR AND A DITY NATIVE, UH, BRUCE OLIVER TUCKER. AND, UM MM-HMM . KAISHA HAS GOT THE PICTURE UP AND UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT MADE MEDICAL HISTORY IN VIRGINIA. MR. TUCKER WAS TAKING THE MCV OUT TO BEING INJURED IN THE FALL IN 1968. HE WAS UNCONSCIOUS AND HAD SUFFERED SEVERE HEAD INJURIES. FOLLOWING AN UNSUCCESSFUL LIFE-SAVING SURGERY. DOCTORS DECLARED MR. TUCKER BRAIN DEAD AND ENLISTED THE HELP OF THE RICHMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LOCATE HIS NEXT OF KIN. POLICE REPORTED THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO SO, AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER GRANTED AUTHORIZATION FOR MR. TUCKER'S ORGANS TO BE HARVESTED AND DONATED. MR. TUCKER'S HEART WAS USED IN THE FIRST OF HEART TRANSPLANT IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. LATER THAT AFTERNOON, MR. TUCKER'S BROTHER ARRIVED AT THE HOSPITAL ONLY TO LEARN THAT HIS BROTHER HAD PASSED AWAY. EXCUSE ME. IT WASN'T UNTIL HIS REMAINS WERE BEING PREPARED FOR MARIEL THAT THE UNDERTAKER OATH, SO OF THEN WHEN HE NOTIFIED THE FAMILY THAT MR. TUCKER'S ORGANS HAD BEEN REMOVED AFTER 57 YEARS. VCU IS MAKING AMENDS TO THE FAMILY OF BRUCE OLIVER TUCKER. IN ADDITION TO THIS, UM, BEAUTIFUL MURAL, UM, VCU IS NAMED AN AUDITORIUM IN ITS MEDICAL EDUCATION CENTER IN . WHILE THE STORY IS RIDDLED WITH UNFORTUNATE EVENTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES, I'M GRATEFUL TO MR. TUCKER FOR THE UNINTENDED SACRIFICE AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING IT WHEN I'M, UH, ACTUALLY AT BCU ON MY MANY VISITS FROM MY HEART TRANSPLANT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HE PAVED THE WAY, WHETHER IT WAS GOD'S WILL THAT ALL THIS HAPPENED, OR JUST UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK IT'S, IT'S TRULY A BLESSING THAT HE'S BEING RECOGNIZED NOW AS FAMILIES BEING RECOGNIZED AND THAT I THINK IT'S A, A REALLY GREAT STORY. SO MM-HMM . EXCUSE ME. SO WITH THAT, [11. CLOSED SESSION] UM, WE HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. HAVE A BUNCH WAIT. SINGLE REGION. THE BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO, INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE. PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, DENWOOD COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, DENWOOD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE. BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE AND 2.2 3 7 83 DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION AND NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE, PLEASE? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION. UH, ROLL CALL. MR. DOLEY AGAIN. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. [01:30:01] EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. AND WE WILL BE BACK AT SEVEN FOR, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS. YES SIR. YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. YEP. SO THEY'RE PUTTING UP, WE NEED A MOTION? YEP. MY MOTION TO COME OUT CLOSED. I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT. A CLOSED SESSION. I MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE A ALL VOTING AYE. WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED IN A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 1. PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, DENWOOD COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, DENWOOD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 5. BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OF THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 180 3. DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS NO MEMBER HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH CLOSED MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED, THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING. I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT, PLEASE. SECOND, SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. UH, ROLL CODE. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. JUST TIME. WE'LL WAIT TILL SEVEN. YEP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I'D LIKE TO BRING THE EVENING SESSION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER, AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO, UM, [12.A. Rezoning Case, P-25-2] STRAIGHT INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, REZONING CASE P DASH, UH, 25 DASH TWO. AND AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HEARD, UM, HEARD THIS LAST MONTH, BUT THEN THERE WAS SOME IRREGULARITIES WITH A COUPLE OF LOTS THAT ACTUALLY, UH, A DIFFERENT ZONING CASE, UH, TONIGHT. BUT, UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL GET PLANNING STAFF. UM, I DON'T HAVE WHO'S DOING IT. UH, MR. BASSETT, UH, IF YOU COULD COME UP AND PRESENT THE CASE PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS. MR. MASSENGILL? YEAH, AGAIN, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, AS YOU INDICATED, THIS IS, UH, THE CASE THAT WAS DEFERRED, UH, FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING, P DASH 25 DASH TWO. UM, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, UH, THIS EVENING AS WELL. UM, AGAIN, THIS CASE IS, UH, FOR THE SUBJECT LOTS ON OUR SLIDE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN AND OUTLINED IN THE, UH, YELLOW OUTLINE. AGAIN, THE REZONING REQUEST THIS EVENING IS, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE AND REZONING THE PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS AGAIN, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN. UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, THE RU ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AT A MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF 20,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, PER EACH LOT. UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO DEVELOP PROPERTY, UM, UNDER THE R ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 20,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, OF LOT AREA, UH, TO DEVELOP A NEW LOT UNDER THE RR ONE ZONING CLASS CLASSIFICATION. UNDER THE R RU ZONING DISTRICT, UH, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET PER LOT. UH, SO, UH, IN THE CASE OF THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE EXISTING LOTS, UH, BEING ALL IN PLACE, UH, WITH THE SUBDIVISION THAT TOOK PLACE DEC DECADES AGO, [01:35:01] OF COURSE ALL OF THE, THE CURRENT LOTS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UM, SOME, UM, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED IN LOTS COMBINED UNDER THE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION. UH, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE LOTS ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER AS NONCONFORMING UNDER THE R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED ZONING CLASSIFICATION. SO TECHNICALLY, UM, YOU WOULD NEED EIGHT LOTS OF THE EXISTING LOTS, UH, TO COME TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UNDER THE R RU ZONING DISTRICT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COMBINE TWO LOTS TO CREATE A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. ADDITIONALLY, UNDER THE R ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, YOU OF COURSE HAVE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS, THE BUILDING SETBACKS UNDER THE R ONE DISTRICT, BASICALLY, UM, ALSO CREATE NONCONFORMITIES, UH, WITH THE EXISTING LOTS IN WEST PETERSBURG. 'CAUSE GIVEN THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS AND THE DEPTH OF THE LOTS, YOU CANNOT MEET THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO BE 65 FEET. THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING THAT YOU BUILD OR DWELLING THAT YOU WOULD BUILD, UM, ON A LOT HAS TO BE 65 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD. THE REAR SETBACK IS 35 FEET, SO IT LEAVES YOU ABOUT A 18 FOOT AREA, UM, ON A LOT TO BUILD. AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS IN THE R ONE DISTRICT THAT ARE 35 FEET FROM EACH SIDE YARD. SO YOU'RE BUILDING ENVELOPE. UM, YOU BASICALLY DO NOT TECHNICALLY REALLY HAVE A BUILDING ENVELOPE TO BUILD ON UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT IN THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WITH THE RU ZONING DISTRICT, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDING SETBACK. YOU HAVE, UM, 40 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD YOUR HOME A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN YOU CAN UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, ROUGHLY 25 FEET. UM, THEN THE REAR SETBACK IN THE REAR YARD IS FIVE FEET, AND THEN THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS WERE FIVE FEET. SO THE THINKING THERE WAS, UM, IF YOU HAD TWO LOTS, YOU MEET THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE UNDER THE RU ZONING DISTRICT. AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THE REDUCED BUILDING SETBACKS THAT ALLOW YOU TO TRY TO FIT YOUR HOME WHERE POSSIBLE YOU HAVE A, A LARGER BUILDING ENVELOPE, UM, ON THOSE TWO LOTS, ABLE TO EITHER SHIFT YOUR HOME UP TO THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT OR SH YOU COULD SHIFT IT BACK INTO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE A, A BIGGER FRONT YARD OR SHIFT IT FORWARD AGAIN, LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, WHERE IT GIVES YOU A LARGER BACKYARD AND THEN YOU COULD MOVE YOUR HOME EITHER TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE WITH THAT FIVE FOOT MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK. SO THE THEORY WAS TO GIVE PEOPLE, UM, A LARGER BUILDING ENVELOPE, UM, UNDER THAT R RU ZONING DISTRICT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE R ONE AND RU ZONING DISTRICT. UM, LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES AGAIN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING, UM, THERE IS THE ONE PROPERTY ON THE FAR NORTHERN, UH, PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CLOSEST TO ROUTE ONE, UM, NEAR WHAT USED TO BE, UM, ON ROUTE ONE, THE CAUSLEY'S AUTO BODY SHOP. UM, THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED B TWO. THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY AGAIN IS ALL, UM, THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR THE REZONING UNITES R ONE RESIDENTIAL. UM, AS I INDICATED AT, UH, LAST MONTH'S MEETING, UM, THIS SLIDE JUST IS A SUMMARY OF THE, UM, PREVIOUS REZONING REQUESTS. UM, THEY WERE APPROVED, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND THEN OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE IN, UH, 2022 THERE WAS ONE, UM, REZONING CASE, UH, TO THE R RU DISTRICT THAT THAT WAS DENIED. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME OTHER PENDING, UM, ZONING APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, UM, THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR APRIL MEETING AND, [01:40:01] UM, BE COMING, UH, TO THE BOARD IN MAY. SO WE HAVE, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL CASES THAT ARE PENDING, UM, INCLUDING, UH, THE CASE THAT WE HAVE HAVE BEFORE US THIS EVENING. ACTUALLY TWO CASES, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. UM, JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN, UM, AT THE LAST MONTH'S, UH, OR THIS MONTH'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WERE FOUR LOTS, UM, THAT ARE AT THE BOTTOM, UM, BOTTOM LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. UM, THERE WERE NOT ADVERTISED AS PART OF THE REQUEST WHEN IT CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THE, THE RESU REQUEST FOR THOSE FOUR LOTS. UM, SO OVERALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID, HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, OF ALL THE, UM, ALL THE LOTS THAT ARE PART OF THE, UH, P DASH 25 DASH TWO REZONING REQUESTS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO THE R ONE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR ALL THE LOTS, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING FOR REZONING. UM, LOOKING AT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, AS WE REVIEWED, UH, AGAIN AT LAST MONTH'S BOARD MEETING, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF REZONING ALL OF THE, UH, ALL OF THE LOTS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED FOR REZONING. GIVEN THAT THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN ARE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES. ADDITIONALLY, THE R RU ZONING DISTRICT WAS CREATED TO ACCOMMODATE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING LOTS WITHIN THE URBAN AREA, INCLUDING THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA AS SET FORTH IN WHAT'S CALLED THE TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. ALSO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HEARD THIS REQUEST, UM, IN TWO PARTS, UM, AT THEIR PREVIOUS TWO, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY ON BOTH OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, BEFORE THEM, UH, FOR, UH, FOR UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPER SUPERVISORS. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE RELATED TO, UH, PLANNING STAFF REPORT. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY AT THIS THIS POINT? UM, YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THE ONE THAT'S, UH, B TWO IS, UM, ZONED AND AS I'M LOOKING AT THAT, THAT LOOKS TO BE LIKE A DEEP, UM, LEAP OR THE DENSITY, I GUESS B TWO, I THINK IT'S BEHIND A AUTOMOTIVE OR SOMETHING. THE BODY SHOP. BODY SHOP, SORRY. YEP, THAT'S IT. UPPER RIGHT? MM-HMM . YES. THE, THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DOES, DOES TOUCH THE, UH, BODY SHOP PROPERTY. ISN'T THAT KIND OF A LACK OF A WETLAND LOOKING AREA? I'M, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY DEEP IN YOU. YOU WANTED TO GET REZONED TO RRU, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. TO BUILD THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD YEAH. SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE PROPERTY, UM, TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT. I, I MEAN I REALLY CAN'T SEE A HOUSE BEING THERE AND I THINK, UM, SOMEONE CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THE WATER RUNNING IN, YOU KNOW, INTO THAT AREA. UM, DO I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT? BUT THE APPLICANT WANTED, I MEAN IT'S OKAY. YEAH, I MEAN IT'S JUST UM, AN AREA, I MEAN IF YOU RIDE BY AND LOOKED AT IT, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS, I MEAN IT LOOKS, UM, UM, THE AREA LOOKS KIND OF AWFUL RIGHT THERE. IT LOOKS VERY, VERY LOW. LIKE [01:45:01] I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY OF IT AND EVERYTHING AND BEING A HOUSE, IF YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A HOUSE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALMOST HAVE TO PUT STILTS ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN FOR THAT, FOR THAT AREA. SO THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THAT. RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. YEAH. THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO AS PART OF THE, UM, IF THE REZONING WAS, UH, APPROVED AND THE APPLICANT MOVED FORWARD WITH BUILDING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN IF THE ZONING WASN'T APPROVED, THEN THEY COULD, UH, PUT A COMMERCIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND IF THERE WERE WETLANDS, UM, FLOODPLAIN, ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS RELATED TO THAT, UM, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. SO THOSE WOULD ALL BE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEWS, UM, BY STAFF AT THAT, AT THAT TIME. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, JUST TO COMMENT, AS I RODE THROUGH THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION, AND IF YOU LOOK AT HOW IT'S LAID OUT, THAT PARTICULAR LOT UP THERE, TOP RIGHT IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST SPOT IN THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION. UM, SO THAT, THAT MAKES MY FLAG GO UP AS FAR AS TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING ON IT, JUST MY OPINION, UM, IT'S JUST EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT A VALLEY WHERE ALL THE WATER TAKE YOUR PICK, WHEREVER IT'S COMING FROM WOULD FLOW THROUGH THERE. SO I WOULD THINK IT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUYER, BE AWARE OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR THERE. YEAH. YEAH. AS I INDICATED, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING B TWO, THE PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED. UM, IF THEY HAD A USE THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT WAS PERMITTED IN THE B TWO DISTRICT SAY, UH, UH, RETAIL STORE, RESTAURANT, ANY TYPE OF B TWO ALLOWED USE, THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. OR IF THE REZONINGS GRANTED, THEY COULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, AND MOVE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY THEY WENT WITH DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET, UM, WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE TO MEET AS PART OF DEVELOPING THE, THE PROPERTY. GOTCHA. MARK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HE OWNS THE PROPERTY, HE KNOWS Y'ALL PASSED IT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IF HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON IT, IT'S HIS LOSS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. I MEAN, IT'S WHEN YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, I MEAN, IF I DO, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I BOUGHT IT FOR TO TAKE IT FORWARD. I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT SETBACKS, SETBACKS AND AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE, THEN IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU'RE BUYING THAT LOT BUYING THAT HOUSE ON THAT LOT AND YOU CAN'T SEE THAT RAVINE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM. UH, AND, AND IN ORDER TO SELL THAT HOUSE, HE'S PROBABLY GOT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS WITH THAT RAVINE FOR, FOR THE BUYER'S SAKE. SO, UM, YEAH. TRUE. ABSOLUTELY. CAN I ASK THE, UM, OWNER A QUESTION? WELL, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. JUST, JUST ONE MINUTE. I IF WE FINISH WITH MARK AND THEN WE'LL GET, OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BRENDA? UM, NOT AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. 'CAUSE WE CAN GET MARK BACK UP HERE. YEAH, WE GET MARK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MARK. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD GET THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND, AND UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT FIRST AND THEN WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS. SURE. TAR THO ROSSI 1 0 8 3 7 CHERRY HILL DRIVE, GLEN ISLAND, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 5 9. UM, AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT I BELIEVE WILL, UH, BENEFIT BOTH THIS WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS RESIDENCE. THE REASON I'M HERE IS SIMPLE. THE CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY OF THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. MOST SUMS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALREADY CONSIDERED NON-CONFORMING, AS MENTIONED, MENTIONED BY MR. BASSETT AND DO NOT REFLECT HOW THE COMMUNITY IS CURRENTLY. THAT MEANS THAT HOMEOWNERS WOULD FACE UNNECESSARY ROADBLOCKS WHEN TRYING TO RENOVATE OR IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES. AND VACANT LOTS LIKE THE ONES WE OWN, ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT [01:50:01] TO DEVELOP IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE RU ZONING ON THE LOTS THAT WE OWN. SO THEY CAN BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT ALIGNS WITH HOW THE COMMUNITY ALREADY LOOKS AND FEELS. I KNOW THAT THAT CHANGE CAN SOMETIMES FEEL UNCERTAIN, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE IDENTITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S ABOUT PRESERVING IT BY ALLOWING RESPONSIBLE INFLOW DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND PREVENTING ZONING RESTRICTIONS FROM FORCING UNWANTED HOUSING OUTCOMES. TONIGHT I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH WHY THIS REQUEST MAKES SENSE, HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND WHY APPROVING IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BUILD HIGH QUALITY HOMES THAT FIT IN WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, MR. CHA. YEAH. UM, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THEIR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES LOOKING AND TRYING TO FIT IT IN MY MIND. I MEAN, YOU GOT A JOB. SURE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SIT THE HOUSES THAT YOU SAYING THE FOOTAGE AND THE SETBACKS AND ALL THAT, IT'S GONNA BE A JOB AND YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT? 100%. OKAY. THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEHIND THE AUTO SHOP, I SAW THAT TOO. AND TO ME, MARK SAID IT, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD A HOUSE AND YOU KNOW THIS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SAYING IT, BUT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THAT UP SOME WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I'M STILL, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT SO ANN PLAN AND HAS STOOD THERE AND BACKED YOU ON THIS, RIGHT? AND I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS. IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST GET ANYTHING WE WANT TO PROVE. RIGHT. SO, AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT LOOK BETTER. LIKE I SAY, I'VE WENT FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. BEAUTIFICATION IS ONE THING, WHEN YOU START DOING THEIR PROPERTY'S GONNA GO UP. YEAH. SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, THAT'S ME. I, I'VE, I'VE GOT A, I HAD A PRESENTATION AS WELL IF I COULD, UH, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND IF I GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK, WE CAN GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OH, DO I USE THIS MA'AM? NO. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO I'M SURE THAT, UH, MANY, MANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, ARE ARE AWARE OF THIS. BUT JUST, JUST SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT I DID, UM, I WENT THROUGH THE ONLINE GIS SYSTEM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR DENWOOD COUNTY AND LOOKED THROUGH HOW MANY LOTS CONSECUTIVE, LOTS ARE OWNED BY OWNERS. AND WHAT I'VE IDENTIFIED IS IF WE SEE ALMOST THE MAJORITY OF THE OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE FOUR LOTS OR LESS, WHICH CURRENTLY AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND AS MARK DISCUSSED, THE R ONE ZONING REQUIRES 20,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD BE EIGHT LOTS CONSECUTIVELY TO BUILD MM-HMM . AND THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE THAT IS ONLY SIX OWNERS THAT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. IN ADDITION, OF COURSE, AS MARK MARK'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS, BUT WITH RU I KNOW THE SETBACKS ARE PRETTY SMALL FROM THE SIDES, FIVE FEET ON EACH SIDE AND FIVE FEET IN THE BACK. BUT ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO PLACE IS YOU'RE ONLY ABLE TO COVER 50% OF THE LOT AREA WITH THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAT YOU BUILD ON THERE. SO IT'S NOT, I I THINK THAT THERE'S FIVE FEET, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT THAN THAT. UM, AND IN ADDITION, I KNOW I WENT TO A MEETING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AT THE CHURCH 'CAUSE I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TO SAY AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. AND ONE THING THAT THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THE PASTOR HAD MENTIONED WHO WAS, WHO USED TO BE AT THE CHURCH, HE MENTIONED THAT BACK IN THE DAY THEY HAD GONE THROUGH A, UH, A VARIANCE GRANTING PROCESS WHERE THEY BUILT HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY, PAID A $500 VARIANCE FEE AND THEN GOTTEN THAT APPROVED AND BEING ABLE TO BUILD ON 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND. BUT THAT'S WHY, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM PLANNING, THAT'S WHY THE RU ZONING WAS INTRODUCED SO THAT FOLKS WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE STEPS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE. OKAY. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SHOW, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES OF, UH, OF A BUILDER THAT HAD JUST RECENTLY PURCHASED A HOME. THEY, THEY KNOCKED DOWN THE EXISTING HOME, WHICH WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD, OBVIOUSLY WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY WANT TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY CAN MAKE THE MOST MONEY ON AND WHAT'S WHAT'S DESIRABLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT BECAUSE OF THE R ONE RESTRICTIVE GUIDELINES, [01:55:01] THEY WERE FORCED TO HAVE TO USE THE SAME EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS ALREADY THERE, WHICH CAUSED A TWO STORY HOUSE, WHICH FROM WHAT I HEARD IN THE MEETING, IS NOT WHAT FOLKS OF THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE AT ALL. AND SO AS, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT, WITH US HAVING CAME IN AND, AND BOUGHT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES, WE MAY BE FORCED INTO A SIMILAR SITUATION 'CAUSE WE BOUGHT TWO EXISTING HOMES IN ADDITION TO THOSE LOTS. AND THAT MAY HAVE TO BE WHAT, WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO. 'CAUSE WE NEED TO RECOUP OUR INVESTMENT SOMEHOW. I UNDERSTAND THAT, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND IN ADDITION, I'VE HEARD A CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR HOMEOWNERS RATHER THAN RENTERS. AND SO EVEN LET'S SAY WE BUILD ON THE EXISTING FOOTPRINTS, THOSE HOMES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD MAY NOT BE DESIRABLE FOR FOLKS TO COME IN AND BUY. AND SO THAT MAY FORCE US TO SELL IT TO INVESTORS, WHICH WILL THEN COME IN AND RENT THE PROPERTIES OUT AND, WHICH IS NOT, I GUESS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S LOOKING FOR. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, I MEAN, THESE ARE JUST THREE OF THE HOMES WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BUILT IN, IN THE PETERSBURG AREA IN THE LAST YEAR. AND SO, I MEAN, I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE HERE TODAY SORT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE HOMES WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE HOME WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THESE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S NOW BEING BUILT. AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT, IT FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY WELL. AND, UH, WITH INCREASING THE HOME OWNERSHIP, I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY'S VERY TIGHT KNIT. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FOLKS THERE, HAVE LIVED THERE FOR GENERATIONS. AND SO, UM, I THINK BUILDING SOME NICE HOMES WHERE FOLKS COME AND OWN WILL STRENGTHEN THOSE TIES AS WE, AS WE MOVE ALONG. AND SO I, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. OKAY. UM, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, EXCUSE ME. YEP. UH, THIS CHAIR, THE, UM, THE HOMES THAT YOU HAD JUST HAD. SURE. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGES THOSE HOMES YOU BUILT? IMP PETERBURG. THEY'RE FIF THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. THEY'RE BETWEEN 1450 TO UH, TO 1500 SQUARE FEET. IT'S NICE. THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH. AND UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS THESE LOT SIZES THAT WE BUILD ON IN PETERSBURG, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT 50 BY A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT THAT WE GET HERE IN, UH, IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. YEAH, THOSE LOOK NICE. YEAH. UM, AND BOB? I'M GOOD. NO SIR, NO QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE MIGHT GET YOU TO COME BACK UP HERE AND SURE. AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF, IF WE HAVE ANY. OKAY. BUT THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I'M OFF OPEN. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE CECILIA RUSSELL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. HOW YOU DOING? DOING GOOD. DOING GREAT. GREAT, GREAT. MY NAME IS CECILIA RUSSELL. MY ADDRESS IS 2 5 7 0 9 FRANKLIN STREET. AND I DO HAVE BORN AND RAISED IN WEST PETERSBURG. HAVE WORKED IN AND OUT THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND GROWING THE COMMUNITY, ENHANCING THE COMMUNITY, AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE, UM, I WATCHED, I SAW THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM. AND FROM WHAT I SAW, EVERYBODY WAS LOOKING AT WHETHER THE STRUCTURES FIT THE COMMUNITY. YES, YOU CAN PUT MORE HOUSES IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH FOCUS ON THE STRUCTURE. THERE WAS NO FOCUS ON THE HUMAN ASPECT OF THE WEST PETERSBURG COMMUNITY. AND CAN, UH, COMMUNITY OF THAT CULTURE WITH THOSE CHALLENGES, WILL IT FIT? UM, AND I WALK THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME AND IN A, IN A QUIET COMMUNITY IN THE MORNINGS WHEN NOBODY IS OUTSIDE, YES I CAN GO BY AND SAY, A HOUSE WILL FIT HERE, A HOUSE WILL FIT THERE, A HOUSE WILL FIT THERE. BUT UNTIL, YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE AND THE CULTURE OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, WE HAVEN'T REALLY CONSIDERED IT. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED. THE HUMAN ASPECT OF IT. UM, GIVING RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT DENWOODY COUNTIES, UM, STRIVE THE R [02:00:01] RESPECT GIVEN REGARDS TO THE FEELINGS OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEIR FEELINGS, THEIR TRADITIONS, WHENEVER SERVING THE COMMUNITY. AND I JUST FELT LIKE THIS WAS THROWN OUT THE WINDOW WHEN IT CAME TO THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO BE CONSIDERED WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY. ONE BEING THERE'S A HOUSE RIGHT NOW ON THE CORNER OF SURREY AND ROANOKE THAT WAS BUILT NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND THAT PERSON IS PARKING ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OF ROANOKE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S NO PARKING SPACE? WELL, THERE'S LESS PARKING SPACE DRIVEWAY, I MEAN, SO THERE'S LESS DRIVEWAY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE HOUSE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEIR FAMILIES COME TO VISIT AND THEIR FRIENDS? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? WE HAVE CHILDREN NOW WHO HAD BASKETBALL GOALS IN THE STREET. WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SMALLER YARD SPACE NOW. WHAT ELSE ARE WE GONNA HAVE IN THE STREET? YEARS AGO WE HAD SOME OF THE KIDS WHO RODE THEIR DIRT BIKES IN THE STREET AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE CAN WE FIND, CAN WE FIND A PLACE FOR THEM TO RIDE OTHER THAN INDUSTRY? WHAT ELSE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE PUSHED TO THE STREET IF WE HAVE LESS SPACE, LESS GREEN SPACE? WE WANNA ENCOURAGE OUR KIDS TO GET OUTSIDE MORE, NOT COME INSIDE MORE. WE WANT OUR SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE AND ENJOY BEING IN THEIR YARDS WITHOUT HAVING TO HEAR AND DEAL WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME. THERE'S A HOUSE THAT I ALWAYS SAY, YOU COULD LITERALLY REACH OUTTA ONE WINDOW INTO THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE THE HOUSES ARE SO CLOSE. UM, I DID NOTICE THERE WAS A YOUNG GENTLEMAN WHO MENTIONED THE, UM, SHARED DRIVEWAYS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND HE SAW THAT TO BE A CONCERN. WHAT IF THAT CREATED CONFLICT? HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, HAVING ALL THESE EXTRA PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY? WE HAVE CHALLENGES, LIKE I SAID, ALREADY AT WEST PETERSBURG. WE KNOW THE DRUGS, WE KNOW THE SHOOTINGS, WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING, UM, TO HELP THOSE SITUATIONS. WE DON'T WANNA SORT OF SWEEP THIS UNDER THE RUG, THE BRAND NEW ORIENTAL RUG THAT'S IN THE BRAND NEW HOUSES. WE DON'T WANNA SWEEP THAT UNDER THE RUG, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO TRANSFORM A COMMUNITY, IT HAS TO BE DONE FROM THE INSIDE OUT, NOT THE OUTSIDE IN. WE REALLY NEED TO SIT AT THE TABLE. AND I, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO EVEN SAY ALL OF THE, THE THINGS THAT I SEE THAT ARE POSSIBILITIES THAT MAY AFFECT IT NEGATIVELY. NOTHING AGAINST THE BUILDERS, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU DO. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OF WEST PETERSBURG AND THE COUNTY OF D WITTY COMING TOGETHER AND HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND HOW IT WILL REALLY AFFECT THE RESIDENTS OF WEST PETERSBURG AND DINWITTY COUNTY AND THE SERVICES IN DENWITTY COUNTY. LIKE I SAID, LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT MAY IMPACT THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. HOW CAN WE GET A HANDLE ON WHAT'S ALREADY GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY? CAN WE GET SOME HELP ON THE OTHER SIDE AND HELP BUILD THE, THE, MAYBE THE CHURCHES, THE PLAYGROUNDS AND A COMMUNITY CENTER? CAN WE EMPOWER THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY? CAN WE BEGIN TO CHANGE THE MINDSET? BECAUSE UNTIL THE MINDSET CHANGES, BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS IS NOT GONNA HELP THE COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE WITHOUT A MINDSET CHANGE, THE BUILDINGS WILL BE TORN DOWN IN A FEW YEARS, OR ABANDONED. SO I SAID THAT TO SAY, UM, IT'S NICE TO HAVE NICE BUILDINGS. I'M NOT AGAINST THE NICE BUILDINGS, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS CONSIDERING THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THESE NICE BUILDINGS IN THESE HOMES. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS WILL COME IN AND BUILD THEIR NICE BUILDINGS, GET THEIR MONEY AND LEAVE IN WEST PETERSBURG. AND DENWOODY COUNTY WILL BE LEFT TO DEAL WITH THE REPERCUSSIONS. AND IF YOU COULD WRAP YOUR THOUGHTS UP, YOUR TIME IS UP. BUT YES, THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. I, UM, I CAME TO THE LEAVE. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? SORRY IF, WE'LL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP. ALRIGHT. UM, AND WE'LL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY. 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE, SO IF YOU COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. UM, JAMES JONES, 25 6 0 2 NORTH IN WOODY. I, I'M RESIDENT OF WEST PETERSBURG. IN FACT, I'VE BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE. I WAS RAISED THERE. SO WHEN I MAKE [02:05:01] A STATEMENT, WELL, I WANT TO BLESS MY OPINION ABOUT DEVELOPING AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. I KNEW IT WILL. IT JUST LIKE READING THE GARDEN THAT SHE SPOKE ABOUT CULTIVATING, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT, IT IS FROM SOMETIMES THE OUTSIDE IN INSTEAD OF THE, UH, INSIDE EXPECTING THEM TO DO SOMETHING. IN FACT, I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE. SO, UM, ON THE CORNER THERE, THERE ARE THREE HOUSES THERE AND, UM, EACH ONE WAS BUILT ON TWO LOTS OF BERNBURG AVENUE. I'M SPEAKING OF, WELL, I USED TO OWN THERE. I HAD 12 HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, BECAUSE I GREW UP AS A YOUNG MAN AT 19 YEARS OLD, AND I SAW A VISION, SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO IMPROVE INSTEAD OF PEOPLE USING THE HOUSES FOR TOILET OR DRUG HAZARD, WHATEVER. I WORKED HARD AND I SCUFFLED AND I KEPT MY MIND STAY ON MY VISION AND I MADE IT ON THAT. AND SO I SEE COMMUNITY OF WEST PETERBURG DEVELOPING. IF WE ALLOWED THEM TO COME IN, PERHAPS THEY WOULD NEED TO BUILD ON TWO LOTS. IT MAY BE A LITTLE, LITTLE CROWDED, BUT THE PEOPLE WOULD BE WELCOME. IT WOULD GROW WHERE WE CAN'T NOW GET A GRANT TO FINISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR, OR SIDEWALKS OR CARIBBEAN, WHATEVER YOU MAY WANT TO CALL IT. WELL, IF WE HAD ENOUGH PEOPLE IN TO COME IN AND DEVELOP AND MOVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET GRANTS AND IT WILL GROW. AND ANOTHER THING ALSO, THE CHURCH WILL GROW, YOU KNOW. SO, UM, I, I DO A LOT OF THINKING SOMETIME BEFORE I MAKE A MOVE, EVEN BEFORE I SPEAK. SO I AM TODAY IS LIVING PROOF TO SAY I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I HAD 12 HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I THANK THE LORD, I DID IT BY MYSELF WITH THE GOOD LORD, BLESSING OVER TOP OF ME. AMEN. SO I DON'T GIVE MYSELF A CREDIT FOR IT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU. UM, WHICH NOBODY SOMETIMES REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR RECOGNIZE 'EM UNLESS YOU GOT A DEGREE OR, OR, OR SOME BIG PERSON IN THE CHURCH OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE I HAD NEVER BEEN RECOGNIZED. THAT'S FINE IN DANNY, BUT I'M RECOGNIZING MYSELF, WHAT I DID IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE SOLD SOME OF THESE, BUT I HAD 12 HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, WE GOT A FEW NOW AND I'M STILL WORKING IN, IN PROGRESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IMPROVING THINGS GET BETTER. SO WE DO NEED DEVELOPERS TO COME IN BECAUSE WE CANNOT DEPEND ON THE PEOPLE THERE. THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THIS PROPERTY WITH AN EMPTY HOUSE BESIDE THEM AND, UM, TO TEAR IT DOWN OR JUST MAKE A YARD OR TO REDEVELOP IT. THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN IT. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CALLING JUST LIKE I SEE IT, BUT THESE PEOPLE WANNA COME IN AND DO SOMETHING FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE IT GROW. AND YOU SAY, WELL, THIS MAY BE A LITTLE CLOSE. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO. BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES FOR THINGS DEVELOPING, GET BETTER. YOU CAN'T DEPEND ON THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE COULD DEPEND ON, UH, ABOUT THREE YEARS, OUR CHECKS WOULD BE GROWN IF WE DEPEND ON IT. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. JONES. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO, TO SPEAK BEFORE WE CLOSE? PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PLANNING OR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? UH, YEAH, I WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION. THE APPLICANT OKAY. YES. THE APPLICANT, YES. I'M SORRY. UM, ABOUT THE, UM, THE PARKING. SURE. YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE HOUSES AND THE TWO PARCELS. YEP. UM, WHAT ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY? IS THAT GOING TO BE, UM, IN, IN BETWEEN? IS THAT GOING TO BE, UM, JUST THE FIRST PERSONS AND THEN THE NEXT HOUSE IS GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN? ARE THEY GONNA BE SEPARATE DRIVEWAYS? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO SAY. EXCUSE ME MA'AM. MA'AM, ISHA, DO YOU MIND IF YOU COULD, UH, PULL UP THE PRESENTATION WITH THE, THE SLIDE WITH THE HOUSES REAL QUICK? NO. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE IN LIKE THE, IN THE BOTTOM TWO PHOTOS, AT LEAST, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY WHAT OUR VISION IS. UM, I, THE FIR, THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS WAS IN THAT LAST MEETING. I NEVER, WE NEVER HAD THE PLAN TO DO THAT. UM, BUT THIS IS HOW WE WOULD PLAN TO DO IT. SO IT WOULD HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO FIT ABOUT FOUR CARS ON THERE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S 40 FEET SET BACK FROM THE ROAD, SO WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH SPACE THERE. AND UM, I, I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN ABOUT FOLKS PARKING ON THE STREET AND WHATNOT, BUT OUR PLAN IS TO BUILD A LARGE ENOUGH DRIVEWAY FOR FOUR CARS. [02:10:01] I THINK, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A FAIR POINT BECAUSE YOU CAN PARK ON THE STREET, CORRECT? YOU CAN PARK IT. IT DIDN'T, BUT IT IS, NO, THEY SHOULDN'T PARK ON THE STREET. BUT CAN YOU, I MEAN, THE LAWS SAY YOU CAN'T NO, NO, NO. YOU, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR. NO, YEAH, YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR THERE, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T. I MEAN, THEY'RE VISITING OR WHATEVER, THEY DON'T REALLY LEAVE THE CARDS OVER THERE, OVER, YOU KNOW, ON A DAILY THING. I MEAN, IF THEY COMING TO VISIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT A VISITOR COULD, YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. YEP. JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION FOR MR. BASSETT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT, MR. BASSETT, JUST IN, IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, HOW MANY LOTS DO I HAVE TO OWN IN WEST PETERSBURG FOR ME TO BUILD A HOME IN WEST PETERSBURG? CURRENTLY R ONE ZONING? UM, TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY TO MEET THE 20,000 SQUARE FEET. YES. HOW MANY LOTS DO I HAVE TO OWN? YOU HAVE TO OWN EIGHT LOTS. EIGHT LOTS. OKAY. BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE EITHER ON THE FRONT SETBACK MM-HMM . OR THE REAR BUILDING SETBACK TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH BUILDING ENVELOPE DEPTH ON IN THE LOT TO, TO BUILD A, TO BUILD A HOME, WHICH I WOULD THINK WOULD BE RESTRICTIVE. AND TODAY IN DENWITTY COUNTY AND THE VIEW OF DENWITTY COUNTY, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTIVE, RIGHT? WE, WE CERTAINLY CONSIDER IT RESTRICTIVE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING LOT, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE, UM, TO BUILD ON, TO BUILD ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. OUR WHOLE ZONING FOUNDATION FOR ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS IS CONSIDERATIONS BEING TAKEN FOR EACH ZONING DISTRICT THAT THE LOT'S BIG ENOUGH. LIKE EVEN IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE HAVE A THREE ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, IS TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO YOUR HOUSE ITSELF ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH AREA TO BE ABLE TO FIT ALL THAT ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY WHEN YOU DEVELOP IT AND MEET THE, THE ZONING SET, THE BUILDING SETBACKS. SO IF I WERE A RESIDENT OF WEST PETERSBURG AND I WANT TO BUILD ME A NEW HOME AND I'M GONNA USE MY HOME, MAYBE ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS NEEDS A HOME AND I'M GONNA BUILD ONE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT I'VE GOTTA OWN EIGHT LOTS AT R ONE IN WEST PETERSBURG TO BUILD A NEW HOME. WELL, IF YOU OWN THREE LOTS, OKAY, YOU COULD TRY TO BUILD ON THOSE THREE LOTS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT GOING IN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET THE BUILDING SETBACKS. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE. OKAY? AND AS EVER SINCE WE CREATED THE RU ZONING, DISTRICT STAFF IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT REZONING OR THE VARIANCE REQUEST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MEET THE BILL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO REZONE YOUR PROPERTY TO A ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE YOU BUILDING ON THOSE THREE LOTS, FOUR LOTS, RIGHT? IF YOU OWN EIGHT LOTS, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE SIDE YARD BUILDING SETBACKS, BUT YOU STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO MEET THE FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO FIT A HOME ON THE, THE PROPERTY. AND THERE WAS A FEE INVOLVED WITH THE VARIANCE, AM THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. $500 FEE. $500 FEE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO ALL I'M GETTING AT IS, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN, WANTED TO EMPHASIZE GOING IN STAFF'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT. SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T, TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL HARDSHIP AND YOU HAVE AN OUT IT THAT THE COUNTY HAS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR TO, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD, TO BUILD YOUR HOME ON. RIGHT. UM, SO UNDER VIRGINIA CODE AND COUNTY CODE STAFF CAN'T SUPPORT THAT VARIANCE REQUEST. SO THE APPLICANT HAS TO HOPE THAT THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS IS GONNA GONNA GRANT THAT VARIANCE KNOWING THAT GOING IN ALREADY IT'S NOT BEING SUPPORTED BY TECHNICALLY BY VIRGINIA CODE AND, AND COUNTY CODE AS A REASON FOR THAT, THAT VARIANCE. UM, SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THERE'S A REASON WHY RU WAS CREATED IN SPEC SPECIFICALLY FOR WEST PETERSBURG. YES. SO IN THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT THAT I ATTENDED, I HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE [02:15:01] COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE. WE WANT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEIR FAMILIES AND THIS TYPE OF THING. SO ALL I'M GETTING AT IS, I'M TRYING TO SAY IF IT TAKES X NUMBER OF LOTS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A HOUSE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW WITHOUT A ZONING CHANGE. R ONE, IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN AN RU OKAY. THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD TO BUILD A HOME ON THE LOTS. AND I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. IF YOU WANT THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT IT'S, THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. THAT'S WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE EIGHT LOTS IN TODAY'S, THE WORLD THAT WE, WE LIVE IN THROUGH ZONING. SO THAT'S ALL I'M KIND OF GETTING AT, HAVING LISTENED TO THE CONVERSATION FOR TWO HOURS AT THE MEETING, I, I SPECIFICALLY HEARD WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY, WELL HOW ARE THEY GONNA LIVE THERE IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY EIGHT LOTS? I I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT. THAT'S DIFFICULT. YEAH. AND I, I THINK DR. MOORE TO FOLLOW, TO FOLLOW FURTHER ON THAT THE APPLICANT HAD DID HAVE THAT THE PHOTO OF THE HOME, THAT WAS WHERE THEY REBUILT THE EXISTING HOME THERE AND THEY HAD TO GO, YOU KNOW, TWO STORIES TO MAKE THE HOME LARGER BECAUSE THEY HAD TO STAY ON THAT ORIGINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MEET THE R ONE BUILDING SETBACKS. SO THAT, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE TOLD HER, IF YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY IS TO GO WITHIN THAT ORIGINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TWO STORIES TO GET THE SIZE HOME THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE LOT SIZES AND HAVING TO MEET THE BUILDING SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED. YOU, YOU COULD END UP WITH THAT RESULT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A LARGER HOME ON AN EXISTING LOT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. UH, YEAH, I DO REALIZE, UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE, UM, APPLICANT WHO CAME BEFORE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED, HE COULDN'T GO THIS WAY, HE HAD TO GO, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT MS. MOORE. AND, UM, BUT, BUT THE AREA WAS JUST TOO SMALL AT THAT TIME. UM, I THINK, YEAH, UM, AT THE MEETING PEOPLE THEY VOICED, UH, THEIR OPINIONS, UM, ABOUT THE LOT SIZE AND I THINK, UM, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE INDIVIDUALS IS A QUAL QUALITY HOUSES SOMETHING THAT LOOKS GOOD, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S THROWN TOGETHER AND, UM, ON THE PARCELS, BECAUSE I KNOW ON R RU YOU HAVE, YOU, UH, YOU HAD, IT WAS CHANGED FROM R ONE TO R RU, UM, A LONG TIME AGO. AND SO THAT EVEN AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME YOU HAD TO, IF FOR A VARIANCE YOU HAD TO PAY $500 EACH TIME YOU WANTED TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHY IT WAS CREATED. RU AND UM, UM, THE GENTLEMAN, UM, THAT ARE HERE TO BUILD, UM, UH, THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, UM, A NICE A A NICE HOME AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES. UM, UM, OR ONE IS NOT, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY LOTS FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO RU. UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, AS LONG AS IT, UM, IS RES RESPECTABLE AND SO FORTH, THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN, AS I SAID WAS THE B TWO ONE BEHIND THE, UM, THE BUSINESS. AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN I GUESS THE ZONING ALLOWS THEM TO DO BECAUSE IT, I I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU CAN, UM, BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND HOW, AND THE DENSITY AND, AND SO FORTH. SO, UM, UH, I DON'T, UM, HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. OKAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU BOB. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? READ IT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. DEAR. RESOLVED THAT AN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 6 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH TWO FIVE DASH TWO AS PRESENTED, BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. [02:20:01] SECOND , ROLL CALL MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER? NO. MR. LEE. AYE. FOUR AYES ONE. NO. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE 8 25 DASH TWO. [12.B. Rezoning Case, P-25-3] UH, MR. BASSETT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UM, JUST SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE, UH, AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING TO REPRESENT, UH, REZONING CASE P DASH 25 DASH THREE. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST TO REZONE THE, THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, FROM RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE TO RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU UH, AS INDICATED ON THE, UH, SLIDE, UH, TWO OF THE LOTS ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING HOME ON IT. THOSE ARE THE LOT, THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE RATED AT THE INTERSECTION THERE. AND THEN THE FOUR LOTS TO THE, TO THE WEST OF THE, OF THOSE TWO LOTS WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOME ON IT ARE, ARE CURRENTLY VACANT. AGAIN, YOU ALL ARE AWARE, UH, AS INDICATED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS CASE, UH, THE PAST REZONING CASES, UH, THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE. UH, THE SURROUNDING LAND USE AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS PREDOMINANTLY LOW DENSITY, ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS OWNED RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE AND, UM, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AGAIN, UH, THIS PROPERTY ALL OF WEST PETERSBURG IS WHAT WE REFER TO IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THE TOWN CENTER AREA. AND AS SUCH, THIS GENERAL AREA IS EXPECTED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, WE, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE TALKED AS IN THE PREVIOUS CASE AS WELL, UM, ABOUT THE RU ZONING DISTRICT, THE PURPOSE OF IT. AND UM, AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, UNDER THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE RU ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT. AND OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD BE. UM, THERE AGAIN, THERE ARE FOUR VACANT LOTS, UH, NEXT TO THE EXISTING, UH, RESIDENCE. IT'S ON THE TWO LOTS AT THE INTERSECTION THERE. UM, SO IT COULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, IF THE PROPERTY IS REZONED TO R RU THAT UH, THE APPLICANT AND AGENT WILL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH INFILL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. UM, PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER IS AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTY. UM, TRANSPORTATION, UH, IF THE, UH, VACANT LOTS ARE PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY'RE DEVELOPED, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET THEIR DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE PERMIT THROUGH VDOT AND MEET VDOT REQUIREMENTS. UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, UH, GIVEN THAT THE ARE RU RESIDENTIAL URBAN ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES. ADDITIONALLY, THE RU ZONING DISTRICT WAS CRE CREATED AGAIN TO ACCOMMODATE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING LOTS WITHIN THE URBAN AREA, INCLUDING THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING LAND USE IS RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA SET FORTH IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. UH, AT THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY, UH, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBJECT REZONING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MR. CHAIR. MARK, I'VE GOT ONE. UM, OKAY. RIGHT ACROSS IS FROM DENWOODY AVENUE. WHEN IT COMES INTO T THAT, IS THAT A, UM, SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT BETWEEN THE LOTS? IS THAT JUST A PUBLIC SERVICE ACCESS OR WHAT? WELL, THE GREEN LOTS DON'T COME TO THE ORANGE LOTS. IT'S, IT'S A SPACE IN BETWEEN. THERE. IS THAT, UH, NO, MR. CHAIR THAT IS, UM, WHAT WE COMMONLY TALK ABOUT. IT'S A, UH, PAPER STREET, UM OKAY. AVENUE IF YOU EVER PUT A STREET IN RIGHT. PUNCH ONE IN, THAT'S [02:25:01] WHAT, RIGHT. IF OKAY. IF THOSE PROPERTIES EVER WANTED TO DEVELOP YEAH, THAT DI BASICALLY DI WOODY THEN WOODY AVENUE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTENDED, LIKE YOU SAID, A NEW ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THAT, THAT RIGHT THERE. AND IT PROBABLY SQUARES UP TO DINWOODY. IT'S PROBABLY OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT. YES, I WOULD SAY. OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MARK? NO. AND YOU SAID, YEAH, YOU SAID, AND YOU SAID THE PAPER STREET, RIGHT? THE PAPER STREET? YES. UH, AND IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S SHOWN ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, BUT IT, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED. OKAY. SO BUILDING HOUSE NOW WHAT'S, WHO'S GONNA DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY WITH THE, WITH THE, I GUESS OKAY. THE HOUSES. YEAH. IF, IF ANYONE EVER WANTED TO FURTHER DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY MM-HMM . UM, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO, UH, BUILD THE, BUILD THE ROAD TO VDOT STANDARDS AND THEN VDOT, THE COUNTY COULD PASS A RESOLUTION TO HAVE VDOT TAKE IT INTO THE SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE. AND THAT'S, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT? YES. BE AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE TO DESIGN AND BUILD THE EXTENSION OF THAT ROAD ON THAT RIGHT OF WAY. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE BUILDER? YES. OKAY. YES, CORRECT. ARE THEY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? UM, I'VE HEARD THAT, UH, DEVELOPERS HAVE HAD INTEREST IN, IN DOING THAT. UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD EVER FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT, BUT I, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN INTEREST TO, TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT. OF COURSE, IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO, YOU KNOW, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A NEW ROAD NOW, SO MM-HMM . AS YOU INDICATED, THE BUILDER DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO WHY THEY, I'M JUST CURIOUS TOO, WHY DO THEY CALL 'EM PAPER STREETS? UH, PAPER STREET. JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT, IT, YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S SHOWN ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. RIGHT. IT'S SHOWN ON PAPER, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT ON, IT'S NOT DEVELOPED ON THE GROUND. SO SINCE IT'S SHOWN ON THE PAPER PLAT, WE JUST CALL IT PAPER FOR STREETS DEVELOP. YEAH. OKAY. SO I GUESS WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING, THEY JUST DIDN'T DEVELOP AT THAT TIME. RIGHT? THEY JUST NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH AND, AND DEVELOPED THAT SECTION. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MARK? THANK YOU, MARK. OKAY, THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE ANY, ANY FURTHER STATEMENTS ABOUT THIS CASE? YES SIR. YEP. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT. UM, ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS CASE? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. UM, GIVE EVERYONE AGAIN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AT THIS TIME. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SAID TO ASK THE APPLICANT SOMETHING YOU, THE APPLICANT YEAH. APPLICANT. WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A QUESTION. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? WELL, HOW ARE YOU? YEAH. YOUR NAME AND, UH, I'M WESLEY BRADSHAW. I'M THE AGENT FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT I RECKON. AND APPLICANT? MA'AM? THE APPLICANT, UH, RAFAEL NUNEZ. PARDON ME? RAFAEL NUNEZ. OKAY. AND ARE THEY IN THE AREA? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU DO YOUR WHOLE I'M WORKING WITH HIM THROUGH HIS, UH, REAL ESTATE AGENT. HE'S TRAVELING. ALL RIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST INTERESTED IN, UM, UH, THE TYPES OF HOMES THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BUILDING. UH, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE YET OF, OF WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF HOME HE'S, HE'S GONNA BUILD THERE. SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. . YEAH. WELL THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. A LITTLE BIT TO KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. I MEAN, I, UM, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, YOU KNOW, HE TALKED ABOUT THAT. UM, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT YOU ARE GONNA BE CLOSE TO, I'M LOOKING AT NEITHER WAY AND HOR STREET, ROANOKE STREETS. I KNOW WHERE THAT IS DOWN IN THAT AREA. AND UM, UM, AND YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SINGLE MM-HMM . SINGLE HOUSE OR? YES MA'AM. SINGLE FAMILY HOME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, [02:30:01] JUST, UM, JUST INTERESTED, I MEAN, UM, JUST INTERESTED IN FINDING, YOU KNOW, UM, THE AREA, UM, YOU PURCHASED THEM IN, TRYING TO SEE WHAT YOU WANNA DO TO IN, IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN, UH, BUILDERS COMING IN AND, UM, AND ACTUALLY BUILDING HOUSES. SO THEY, THEY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. UM, AND I GUESS THEY WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA COME AND JUST KIND OF, UM, I GUESS THROW SOMETHING UP. THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC, UM, TO HAVE A BETTER LOOKING HOMES BUILT EVERYWHERE. I, I, I'M JUST NOT COMPLETELY SURE WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF STYLE HOME, HOW, HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK. UM, I'D HAVE TO COMPARE WITH HIM. OKAY. WELL, YEAH, JUST A LITTLE CONCERN. I MEAN YOU UM, I UNDERSTAND, YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT. YEAH, I DIFFERENT INFORMATION TO SAY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I I'M PRETTY SURE ONLINE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO OR WHO YOU'RE REPRESENTING, WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. YEAH, TOTALLY. I CAME WILDLY UNDERPREPARED FOR THIS. UH, THE LAST MEETING WAS MUCH EASIER. UH, WELL THIS, WELL THIS IS THE STOP WHERE YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY. I UNDERSTAND. UM, BUT UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONFER WITH HIM AND GET THOSE, UH, ANSWERS TO YOU. UM, YEAH. ANYTIME AFTER THIS , MR. CHAIR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. DOES MR. NUNEZ HAVE ANY OTHER LOTS TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN WEST PETERSBURG OR HAS HE BUILT ANYTHING IN WEST PETERSBURG? NO, SIR. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. SO THIS IS HIS, HIS FIRST ATTEMPT AT BUILDING SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY? YES, SIR. MINE TOO. OKAY. HAS HE EVER MET WITH ANYBODY IN THE, HAVE YOU MET WITH ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LIE? UH, ME PERSONALLY, NO, SIR. OKAY. BUT NOBODY FROM MR. NUNEZ HAS REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY EITHER? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. UM, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS A TIGHT KNIT GROUP, UM, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC THING IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR, UH, INVESTOR OR BUILDER OWNER AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SOME, SOME QUESTIONS, STANDARDS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE IMPLEMENTED INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR COMMUNITY. I, I THINK WOULD HELP US MAKE A DECISION. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND I'LL JUST KIND REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID. I THINK THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE GIVEN YOU A PRETTY GOOD BLUEPRINT FOR WHAT YOU NEED TO DO NEXT TIME. DEFINITELY. IT WAS, IF YOU COME BACK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL LOTS, ANYTHING, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. ALRIGHT, WHAT'S THE PLEDGE OF THE BOARD WITH THIS? I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE AGENT. WOULD HE PREFER TO PULL HIS APPLICATION RIGHT NOW AND CONFER WITH HIS, UH, THE OWNER AND GET BACK TO US AT A LATER DATE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER TO APPROVE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING MR. SOUTHALL THAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE? SO I GUESS THE, WHEN WE SAY PULL THE APPLICATION, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TABLING FOR YOU, YOU COULD TABLE IT. YOU ARE, YOU'RE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. YOU'VE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. I THINK YOU'D WANNA CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANTED TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT TIME. IF YOU DID, YOU'D HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISED IF YOU, IF YOU CLOSED IT AND IT WOULD BE CLOSED. BUT IT DEFINITELY IS AN OPTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL OR REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS, THE, THE BOARD COULD SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEFERRAL. SO IF WE TABLE IT, WE STILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT. SO IF YOU TABLE IT AND ARE CLEAR THAT YOU'VE HELD YOUR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED TONIGHT, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE IT. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU TABLE IT OR DEFER IT AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, YOU HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE IT. YEAH. THAT, I MEAN WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC YOU'VE HAD A, YOU'VE ACTUALLY HAD A PUBLIC ON ALL MEETING MEETINGS. YES. YEAH. SO I JUST ME THINKING FOR EVERYBODY, UM, IT, YOU COULD DO IT AND CLOSE THE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT. RIGHT. BUT JUST TABLE IT. RIGHT. SO I, I'D SUGGEST MR. LEE THAT IF SOMEONE DOES MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT PART OF THE MOTION TO TABLE B, THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN HELD TONIGHT AND IS CLOSED. OKAY. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR, JUST, AND I DON'T MIND MAKING THAT MOTION. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE THAT WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A HAPHAZARD DECISION [02:35:01] BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A STANDARD THAT'S BEEN SET AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE NEXT PERSON TO SET THE SAME STANDARD GOING FORWARD. I THINK THAT IS FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING THE MOTION TO TABLE AND DEFER THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF IT. WELL THAT THE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. IT'S TONIGHT. TONIGHT WOULD BE THAT CLUB PUBLIC HEARING PORTION UNTIL NEXT MONTH. OKAY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S REGULAR MEETING. AND PART OF THAT MOTION IS THAT THE BOARD HAS HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND NEXT TIME WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE TO GO WITH THE CASE. YES. ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE AYE. ALL VOTING AYE AND APPLICANT CAN GET WITH PLANNING? UM, FOR, FOR THE DEFERRAL FOR NEXT MONTH. ALRIGHT, WE WILL [12.C. Case A-25-1. Proposed Amendment To Amend The Dinwiddie County Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Division 11 –Business, General, District B-2 Section 22-185 Permitted Uses And Division 13 Industrial, Limited, District, M-1 Section 22-210 Permitted Uses—Enumerated, And To Amend Article I –In General, Section 22-1 –Definitions. ] CONTINUE ON TO, UH, CASE, UM, CASE C PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE UM, DENWOOD COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE. MR. CULPRIT. GOOD EVENING, MS. MR CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS, MR. MASSENGILL? GOOD MORNING. UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT A DASH 25 DASH ONE. THIS IS ADDING PROVISIONS FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. UM, FOR SOME BACKGROUND. UM, THIS USE IS CURRENTLY NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE. UM, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE ZONING INTERPRETATION OF A WHOLESALE BUSINESS IN STORAGE WAREHOUSE WHERE THIS USE HAS BEEN ALLOWED, UH, CURRENTLY IN THE PA AND IN THE PAST. UM, THAT USE IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE BUSINESS GENERAL B TWO DISTRICT AND BY RIGHT IN THE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED M1 DISTRICT. UM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, UM, LAST FALL WE HAD A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY, UM, THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THROUGH YOU ALL AT THE BOARD AT OUR NOVEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, DURING OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THAT CASE. UM, AND WE HAD SOME PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, UH, STATE SOME CONCERN ON IT, IT BEING ALLOWED IN OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS AND IT NOT BEING REQUIRED BY CUP. SO THEY ASKED STAFF IF WE WOULD EVALUATE THAT. WHAT WE DID WAS WE DECIDED SINCE WE WERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THAT TO ELIMINATE THE ZONING INTERPRETATION BY CREATING A NEW USE THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THE TOPIC. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING ADDING THE USE TITLED SELF STORAGE FACILITY. UM, IT IS DEFINED, GET TO IT REAL QUICK. IT WOULD BE DEFINED AS A BUILDING OR GROUPS OF BUILDINGS DIVIDED INTO SEPARATE COMPARTMENTS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE RENTAL STORAGE SPACE. EACH STORAGE SPACE SHALL BE ENCLOSED BY WALLS AND CEILING AND MAY HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING OF STORED GOODS AND SHALL NOT BE PREFABRICATED STRUCTURES ARRANGED ON A LOT THE CONDUCT OF SALES BUSINESS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL STORAGE UNITS OTHER THAN STORAGE SHALL BE PROHIBITED. WE HAVE ADDED THIS USE OR PROPOSED THIS USE TO BE IN THE BUSINESS GENERAL B TWO ZONING DISTRICT AS A CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED M1 DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT AND AT THE FEBRUARY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE ZONING AMENDMENT TO YOU ALL. IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. JUST, UH, MATT, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE IN THE, IN DITY COUNTY FROM A ZONING ASPECT WOULD SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE GO? SO PICK A PIECE OF PROPERTY, GIMME AN EXAMPLE. UM, SO IT'S REALLY ANY, SO AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, ANY, ANY PROPERTY ZONED BE TWO. UM, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE YOUR FOUR [02:40:01] 60 CORRIDOR, YOUR ROUTE ONE CORRIDOR, UM, WHICH HAS THE, THE B TWO PROPERTY, UM, IS WHERE THIS COULD LOCATE WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT UNDER THE ZONING INTERPRETATION. UM, THERE IS LIMITED M1 PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY. UM, HOWEVER, THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE AN APPLICANT COULD COME TO ACQUIRE SOME M1 PROPERTY PROPERTY AND, UM, IT WOULD BE A BUY RIGHT USE. SO THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THROUGH STAFF. UM, I BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE CASE LAST FALL, THEY SAW WHERE THEY SAW THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING IT BEING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS YOU'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE FACADE, UM, OF THE, OF THE, UH, FACILITY, UM, AS WELL AS SCREENING OF THE FACILITY. UM, AND THEY FELT LIKE THAT THIS WAS A, A WEAK POINT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND, AND, AND DEVELOP A PROPERTY NOT TO THE STANDARD AS, AS WHAT WAS SET FORTH BY THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. UM, THEY WISHED THE HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE STANDARD MOVING FORWARD AND USING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, WE CAN UPHOLD THAT STANDARD. AND I, AND I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TWO MANY STORAGE UNITS THAT ARE PROBABLY BASICALLY A MILE APART IN MY DISTRICT, UH, ONE OFF OF 4 61 OFF OF AIRPORT ROAD. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS YEAH. BASICALLY GOING FORWARD. YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND OF COURSE THE, THE CEP PROCESS HAS TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU ALL, UM, AS, AS YOU ALL SURELY REMEMBER, IT IS PRETTY SCRUTINOUS SO YOU ALL CAN MAKE DO THE DUE DILIGENCE NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPMENT FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD WORK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MATT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, WHAT'S UH, DISCUSSION MOTION? MR. I MAKE THE MOTION IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION. OKAY, GOOD. UH, SECOND RIGHT. DO DO I NEED TO READ THE STATEMENT? COUNTY ATTORNEY? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. WILL DO. WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VA CODE, UM, 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 5 AND 15.2 DASH 22 8 6 A SEVEN, THE DENWOODY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICE WARRANT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ZONING AMENDMENT, ORDINANCE, AMENDMENT. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE DENVER COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS A DASH 25 DASH ONE AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, UH, ROLL CALL. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE ON [12.D. Case A-25-2. Proposed Amendment To Amend And Reenact The Dinwiddie County Zoning Ordinance, Article II, Administration And Enforcement Of Chapter –Section 22-19, Penalty For Violations; Continuing Violations. ] TO D AND THAT IS, UM, EXCUSE ME, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO AMEND AND REENACT THE DEITY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE ARTICLE TWO, ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF CHAPTER SECTION 2219 PENALTY FOR VIOLATION. CONTINUING VIOLATIONS. MR. CULBERT? THANKS AGAIN, MR. CHAIR. BOARD MEMBERS MR. MASSENGILL, UH, I'LL BE PRESENTING ZONING ORDINANCE TAX AMENDMENT A DASH 25 DASH TWO AMENDING AND REENACTING SECTION 22 DASH 19 PENALTY FOR VIOLATIONS AND CONTINUING VIOLATIONS. UM, SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS AMENDMENT. UM, IN DECEMBER, WE UM, TOOK A ZONING VIOLATION, UH, TO COURT FOR ABATEMENT. UM, WHEN THAT COURT, WHEN THAT, UH, ABATEMENT WAS FILED OR THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WHEN THAT WAS FILED AT THE COURT, UM, UH, MIKE DREWRY, DEPUTY COUNTY, UH, ATTORNEY, UM, FILED UNDER BOTH THE DENWOOD ZONING ORDINANCE AS WELL AS DAKOTA OF VIRGINIA. UM, AS YOU ALL CAN SEE, READING THROUGH THE PROPOSED DRAFT, UM, THEY WERE WILDLY DIFFERENT. UM, OUR SECTION FOR, UM, FOR, UH, THAT WE FILED UNDER HAD MUCH LESS CHARGES. UM, IT WAS NOT AS STRONG AS WHAT THE STATE CODE WAS, WAS SAYING THAT WE WE COULD, SO WE COULD ABATE THE VIOLATION. UM, WHEN WE GOT TO COURT, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, UM, WITH THE JUDGE ON [02:45:01] WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO, TO FILE THE CASE UNDER WHAT WE, WHAT WAS OUR GOAL AND INTENT. UH, MR. DRURY STATED THAT WE, ALL WE WANTED WAS ABATEMENT A COURT ORDER STATING THAT THE, THAT THE USE NEEDED TO ASSIST, UH, CEASE OPERATIONS. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND, HE WAS ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR US. UM, BUT WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TO CLEAN UP OUR ZONING ORDINANCE TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH WHEN WE'RE GOING TO, TO, UM, GET ABATEMENT ON ZONING VIOLATIONS. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE HAVE STRIKED THROUGH FOUR LINES OF IT. I WON'T READ WHAT WE'VE STRUCK OUT, BUT WE'LL BE, ADD US ADDING, UM, PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN $1,000 IF THE VIOLATION IS UNCORRECTED AT THE TIME OF THE CONVICTION. THE COURT SHALL ORDER THE VIOLATOR TO ABATE OR REMEDY THE VIOLATION IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE WITHIN A TIME PERIOD ESTABLISHED BY THE COURT. FAILURE TO REMOVE OR ABATE A ZONING VIOLATION WITHIN THE SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD SHALL CONSTITUTE A SEPARATE MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE IF NOT MORE THAN $1,000. ANY SUCH FAILURE DURING A SECEDING 10 DAY PERIOD SHALL CONSTITUTE A SEPARATE MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN $1,500. AND ANY SUCH FAILURE DURING A SUCCEEDING 10 DAY PERIOD SHALL CONSTITUTE A SEPARATE MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE FOR EACH 10 DAY PERIOD PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN $2,000. UM, OUR GOAL WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH ZONING VIOLATIONS IS TO END THE ZONING VIOLATION. UM, THE WAY THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT FALLING BACK ON THAT STATE CODE. UM, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO, TO FILE IN THE COURT ANY ZONING VIOLATION WE HAVE AND ASK FOR AN ABATEMENT OF COURT ORDER ABATEMENT OF, OF THE ZONING SO IT WILL CEASE OPERATION. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO YOU ALL. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NOT, AND WE HAD DISCUSSED IT TOO. UM, I GUESS PRIOR TO, YEAH, ALL WE ALL WE ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND COMPLIANCE AND SOMETIMES THE VIOLATORS, THEY THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T COME INTO COMPLIANCE. SO THIS GIVES US AN AVENUE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO HAVE A, A STRONG STOP. THEY CAN'T, THEY HAVE TO CEASE OPERATIONS. YES SIR. 'CAUSE WE'RE UNABLE TO, TO DO THAT IN HOUSE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU AND I REMEMBER THE CASE THAT THIS RESULTED FROM AND THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO IT AND KNOW, GETTING, GETTING BACK TO US WITH, WITH A LITTLE MORE BITE IN, IN THE VIOLATION THAT WAS, WAS THERE. SO THANK Y'ALL. YEP. YEP. READY? HEARING. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? HEARING, HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE HEARING? WE BOTH FORGET ME. I'M SORRY. WE BOTH GOING SAY WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, SORRY FOR THAT. THAT'S MOBILE TRAIL OUT. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. UM, I CAN READ QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. ALRIGHT, NOW I, I'LL READ IT. UM, WE OKAY? MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. UM, RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH JUNIOR CODE 15 2 2 2 8 5 AND 15 2 2 2 8 6 8 7. THE ITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICE WARRANT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE ITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY APPROVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT A 25.2 AS PRESENTED SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. THANK STAFF. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME [13.A. Appointments] HOLDING NEW BUSINESS APPOINTMENTS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MASSENGILL FOR APPOINTMENTS. YEP. UH, FIRST, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A NEED TO MAKE UM, A COUPLE APPOINTMENTS TO THE DEWINE COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. MR. Y GO FIRST. UH, I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT LOUIS COLLINS FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE. 3 31 20 29. YOU ADD THE SECOND, SECOND. ROLL CALL [02:50:01] MR. DOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER AYE. MR. LEE AYE ALL VOTING AYE ME I'D LIKE TO APPOINT CHERYL MERRILL FROM UH, FOR THE POSITION, LAST NAME FROM THREE THIRTY ONE TWENTY NINE. SECOND. ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER AYE. MR. LEE AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, ALSO HAVE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE DEITY COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPOINT AUSTIN JOHNSON FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE ON JANUARY 31ST, 2029. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND ROLL CALL. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE, UH, SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. ALL RIGHT. CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENT. UH, WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER [15. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] COMMENTS. MR. DOOLEY. UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. UM, I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT SITTING CITIZEN INPUT AND THAT WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE. WE STRIVE TO GET IT RIGHT AND WE STRIVE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND LOOKING AT ZONING PRACTICES FOR A CASE BY CASE SITUATION, WHICH I THINK YOU SAW TONIGHT THAT WHEN GIVEN A, A PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, INTEREST IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH THE RIGHT WAY, THAT, THAT WE GET BEHIND IT, UM, I CONTINUE TO ASK OUR COMMUNITY TO SHOW UP AND, AND HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD. WE NEED IT. WE DID. MM-HMM . WE WANT YOU TO COME AND, AND SPEAK. SO THANK YOU. I WOULD, I WOULD ECHO THAT. UM, MR. DOOLEY'S COMMENTS, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING THAT MS. BONNER HAD ENJOYED BEING WITH THE CITIZENS AND HEARING THEM INTERACT. AND I THINK IT HAD AN IMPACT THIS EVENING ON THOSE OF US THAT WERE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND I, I JUST APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND WE HEARD YOU, WE LISTENED TO YOU AND TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH, WITH CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND HOW TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT WHEN THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON. WE HEARD YOU THERE AND WE PLAN TO DO AS EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHEN THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, THE COUNTY SEAT THAT YOUR COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT THAT, OKAY. WHETHER IT BE LAND SALES OR OTHER CASES SUCH AS TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MESSAGE IS BROUGHT TO YOUR COMMUNITY. AND, AND OF COURSE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING AND OF COURSE THIS MEETING WASN'T BY CHANCE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT, THEY FELT LIKE THEY DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION OR DID NOT HEAR OF THE INFORMATION. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE REALLY MOVE FORWARD EVEN WITH THE UM, TOWN HALL THAT WAS IN WEST PETERSBURG. AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, THE PLANNING COMING OUT AND THE CITIZENS COMING OUT TO, UM, TO SHARE THEIR VIEWS. WE WILL BE DOING SOMETHING AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT OTHER ISSUES THAT COME UP BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO, UM, AND TRY TO SOLVE. AND, UM, I DO APPRECIATE YOU THE ONES THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT. AND, UM, WE HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING A VOLUNTEER GROUP TO GO AROUND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AT A LATER TIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE TOGETHER, UM, HELPING EACH OTHER IN THE COMMUNITY AND EVEN HAVING A WAIVER. SO IF WE DECIDE TO HELP SOMEONE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTED ON BOTH SIDES. SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, LOOK AT THAT AND, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND WE ARE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STRIVE FORWARD TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THE GENTLEMAN THERE, UM, THE BUILDER OVER THERE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE GONNA BE THERE LOOKING AND MAKING SURE THAT HE DOES EVERYTHING HE SAID HE WAS GONNA DO. THANK YOU MR. CHASE. UH, LIKE THE REST OF 'EM SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST SIT HERE AND MAKE DECISIONS, UH, FOR UH, JUST TO MAKE 'EM THE, THE PARTICIPANT, UH, THE CITIZEN THAT SPOKE TONIGHT ABOUT HER WEST PETERSBURG. UM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HEARD EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND LIKE MS. BONNER SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE GO KEEP AN EYE ON THE BUILDER, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S STANDING UP BEHIND WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO. [02:55:01] THAT'S WHAT WE DO. UM, THAT'S WHAT ZONING DOES. YOU KNOW, THEY SEND PEOPLE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS UPGRADED AND UH, THEY'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOT PROSPER. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING EVERYONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THANK YOU BROTHER FOR SPEAKING ABOUT YOUR 12 HOUSES. YOU TAKE PRIDE IN THAT AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING AND THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE WE DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. UM, ALSO, AND TODAY IS NATIONAL FARMER DAY. APPRECIATE NATIONAL FARMER DAY. IT'S A LITTLE LATE TO APPRECIATE YOUR FARMER THIS TIME OF NIGHT, BUT TOMORROW APPRECIATING UM, AT LEAST THREE TIMES A DAY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU EAT YOUR MEALS, ESPECIALLY THE EGG FARMER. RIGHT. ANYWAY, UM, AND UH, THEY'RE COMING. THEY'RE COMING. I WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO HAVE ONE. SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. AYE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. DOOLEY. AYE. DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE AYE ALL VOTING AYE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.