* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. I WAS [00:00:01] TESTING. WE'RE READY? YEP. GOOD. GO. MM-HMM . [1. ROLL CALL] I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MAY 20TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE DIY COUNTY BOARD, THE SUPERVISORS TO ORDER. COULD WE ON ROLL CALL PLEASE? DR. MOORE? HERE. MR. CHAVIS? HERE. MS. EBRA BONNER. HERE. MR. DOOLEY? HERE. MR. LEE. HERE. FIVE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT. ALRIGHT. UM, AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'LL STAND FOR THE INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I'LL FATHER IN HEAVEN I BE THY NAME. THY, THY KINGDOM COME, THOU WILL BE DONE. OUR NOURISH, AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, GIVE US TO STAY OUR DAILY BREAD AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. AND HE IS NOT THE TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL DIVINES THE KINGDOM POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD. ALRIGHT. AT [4. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA] THIS TIME DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? NO, NO AMENDMENTS FROM STAFF. MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. BOTH OF 'EM WILL HAVE ANYTHING. ALRIGHT. UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, APPROVE THE, UH, UH, AGENDA. ROLL CALL PLEASE. I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT. YOU [5. CONSENT AGENDA] HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, BEFORE YOU, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT AND DISCUSS OR, UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED? A SECOND. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME [6.A. Legislative Update] WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO REPORTS AND, UM, HAPPY TO HAVE, UH, THE HONORABLE EMILY M. JORDAN, UH, SENATE 17TH SENATE DISTRICT HERE, UM, TO GIVE US A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE. SO, SENATOR, GOOD AFTERNOON. AFTERNOON. MM-HMM. HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE. I KNOW. WELL, YEAH, I'M CERTAIN YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE OF ME. UM, BUT IT WAS A HONOR TO HAVE, UH, MANY OF YOU COME VISIT IN RICHMOND THIS YEAR AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF YOUR ISSUES. SO FIRST, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND, UH, VISITING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TOO, WHEN THINGS ARISE AND, UH, THINGS ARE OF IMPORTANT TO YOU. SO I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT. SO, UM, KUDOS FOR ACTUALLY SHOWING UP. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO THAT. SO, NOTED. UM, WELL, HAPPY 2025. IT WAS A QUICK AND FAST SESSION, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR, AND WE SAW OVER 3000 BILLS INTRODUCED ABOUT 1800. MADE IT IN BETWEEN CHAMBERS. THE GOVERNOR HAD A LITTLE BIT OVER, UH, A HUNDRED VETOES OR LINE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE EDITS TO SOME OF THE BILLS THAT CAME BEFORE US. AND LAST MONTH ON APRIL 2ND, WE FINALLY CONCLUDED, UH, WITH A FINALIZED BUDGET. AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW IN YOUR LOCALITY. SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO A ANSWER FOR YOU, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT HELP YOU SOURCE THROUGH ALL OF THAT. UM, SO THIS YEAR I THINK WE HAD A, A FISCALLY, UH, SOUND BUDGET. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO HANDLE, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, MOSTLY WITH ONE TIME FUNDING. WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF OUR BIENNIUM IN THE COMMONWEALTH. AND SO NEXT YEAR WE'LL START THAT TWO YEAR BUDGET PROCESS AND THAT 60 DAY SESSION WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON MAKING MAJOR CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS, UPGRADES, OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHATEVER MAY COME OUR WAY. UH, AS IN REGARDS TO LEGISLATION THAT COMES FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. UM, THIS YEAR WE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IN THE SECOND YEAR OF BIENNIUM, DO A LOT OF ONE-TIME FUNDING. SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. UM, I, I BROUGHT THIS UP WITH SEVERAL MY LOCALITIES, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY UPGRADE OR INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY NEED FOR, UM, WATER ESPECIALLY, UM, THERE WAS A ONE TIME IN THIS BUDGET, ADDITIONAL POT OF MONEY OF 25 MILLION WITH A 25% LOCALITY MATCH FOR ANY UPGRADE TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IF YOU HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR IF IT'S SOMETHING MINOR, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY, UM, A, A SMALL POT OF MONEY. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR A SMALL PROJECT THAT'S PROBABLY PERFECT WITH THAT INTENTION. UM, I THINK WE WILL BE SEEING MORE MONEY GOING INTO THAT POT FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL FUTURE MATCHING OPPORTUNITIES. AND WITH ONLY A 25% MATCH, THAT IS KIND OF RARE. USUALLY WE'RE WE GET AT 50 OR A HUNDRED OFTENTIMES. SO I THINK THAT [00:05:01] 25% IS VERY NICE. SO, UM, THIS YEAR WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE COMMONWEALTH, SPECIFICALLY SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE UPDATING TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN MANY OF OUR SCHOOLS. UM, THERE WAS 310 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WERE ADDED INTO THE SECOND YEAR OF THIS BUDGET, UH, FOR SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT FUNDING THAT IN OC COUNTY CAN APPLY FOR. UM, AND THERE WAS ONE BILL THAT I THINK WOULD HAVE, UM, PROBABLY IMPACTED SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE, UH, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. UM, I'M SURE THAT MANY PEOPLE MAY HAVE HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THE FAIRFAX CASINO BILL THAT HAD A PERCENTAGE, UH, UM, DEDICATED FUNDING STRAIN FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE DISPROPORTIONATELY AWARDED TO, UH, RURAL AND URBAN SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY, UM, THAT ARE, UH, DEEMED TO BE DISADVANTAGED AND, AND THE INDEX. UM, AND SO MANY OF THE PLACES THAT I REPRESENT WOULD'VE, UH, BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY, UH, REWARDED IN A GREAT WAY IN REGARDS TO SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION FUNDING. I VOTED FOR THAT THIS YEAR. UM, I, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING. THEY WOULD TAKE A COUPLE DOLLARS OUTTA NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND I RELISHED IN THAT FACT. I MUST ADMIT, UM, THAT, UH, TO TAKE A DOLLAR MAYBE FROM, YOU KNOW, THEIR BACKYARD DIDN'T PUT IT IN. OURS WAS, UH, ESPECIALLY TEMPTING. BUT ALSO I RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE VERY FAR BEHIND IN ADDRESSING SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION. AND I THINK THIS COULD BE ONE OF THE MANY ANSWERS TO US HAVING THAT DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM. UM, I DID NOT MAKE IT OUTTA THE HOUSE. IT DIDN'T MAKE IT OUTTA THE SENATE. AND I ANTICIPATE WE WILL SEE THAT BILL AGAIN NEXT YEAR, AND I'M HOPEFUL FOR ITS PASSAGE SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE FUNDS, UM, BACK TO PLACES LIKE DEITY COUNTY, UH, AND INTO YOUR COFFER, SO THAT WAY YOU CAN MAKE GREAT DECISIONS ON BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS. UM, SO AS THAT COMES ABOUT, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THAT. UM, AND AS THE ESTIMATES COME ABOUT FROM, UH, THE FINANCIAL COMMITTEES, I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, ALSO THIS YEAR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ECOS AND TDS. I CARRIED A BILL, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO, UM, PSYCHIATRIC, UH, EDS. WE KNOW THAT ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS, WE HAVE OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICES THAT ARE SPENDING A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF TIME OFF THE ROAD MAYBE WITH, UM, THOSE WHEN THEY'RE EXECUTING ECOS AND TTOS AND STAYING WITH, UH, PATIENTS ALIKE. AND IT HAS BEEN A, A BIT OF A BURDEN, ESPECIALLY, UM, FOR RESPONSE TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL PLACES. UH, SO I WORKED ON A BILL TO SHARE THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A LAW BACK IN APRIL. UM, THAT WILL REDEFINE WHAT A PSYCHIATRIC ED IS CURRENTLY. UM, THE LAW STATES THAT IT HAS TO BE A PHYSICAL BED. UM, WE KNOW THAT HOSPITALS HAVE, YOU KNOW, HEALTHCARE SETTINGS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SETTINGS THAT DON'T ALWAYS REQUIRE A PHYSICAL BED. UM, AND SO THIS IS GONNA HELP, UM, GIVE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THE FLEXIBILITY TO INTAKE A PATIENT THAT MAY NOT NEED A PHYSICAL BED IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA RECEIVE EXEMPLARY CARE EVEN IF THEY DO NOT NEED, UH, THE SPACE OF A, UM, HEIGHTENED MEDICAL EMERGENCY. AND SO, UM, THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY ONE. AND I'M HOPING, AS WE, I'M SURE THE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION, OTHERS WILL BE EDUCATING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ON, UM, HOW THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT. AND ALSO WORKING WITH THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT STAYING ANY LONGER THAN THEY HAVE TO, AS THEY'RE DOING APPROPRIATE AND APPROPRIATE TURNOVER, UM, FOR EACH PATIENT. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL ALLEVIATE SOME OF OUR RESPONSE TIMES, SPECIFICALLY WHEN THERE'S LARGE TRAVEL TIMES TO AND FROM. UH, IN REGARDS TO BED CAPACITY, UH, THIS YEAR I DID A BILL, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY MAYBE ONE PLACE, AND KENNY'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. UM, BUT I, I DID A BILL THIS YEAR FOR BUSINESS PAD READY SITES, SENATE BILL 1275, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW MM-HMM . AND THE HOPE IS, IS THAT THIS IS GONNA SPUR MORE RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LOCALITIES THAT ARE SMALLER TOWNS OR CITIES OR COUNTIES THAT ARE UNDER 35 SQUARE MILES. NOW, THIS IS NOT OBVIOUSLY APPLY TO THE COUNTYWIDE, BUT IT'LL APPLY TO ANY INDEPENDENT TOWNS. MM-HMM . UM, THE GOOD NEWS WITH THAT IS, IS THAT WE KNEW THAT MANY OF OUR TOWNS ALREADY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY HAVE WATER AND THEY HAVE SEWER. UM, AND THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S EXISTING THAT JUST HAS NOT BEEN OF USE. THIS WILL NOW OPEN UP GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH VDP FOR THOSE SMALLER SPACES TO APPLY FOR THOSE DOLLARS AND HOPEFULLY FIND SOME JOBS TO PUT INTO SOME OF OUR RURAL TOWN CITIES AND MAYBE EVEN COUNTIES OF, THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH ALONG THE WAY. UM, I KNEW, YOU KNOW, IN THIS REGION, NOT TOO, TOO FAR AWAY FROM HERE. THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, RECENT JOB LOSSES THAT I WAS, UM, DOWN IN BRUNSWICK DEALING WITH, UM, WITH THE GOVERNOR LAST WEEK. AND, UM, I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE AND IN MEETINGS EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE, TRYING TO FIND UNIQUE WAYS THAT OUR RURAL AREAS CAN REALLY HARNESS OUR CAPABILITIES. UM, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I HAVE, HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, AND CURRENTLY I SERVE AS THE VICE CHAIR OF, UM, THE RURAL CENTER FOR VIRGINIA AT VIRGINIA TECH, AND ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE RURAL CAUCUS IN VIRGINIA. AND, UM, MY FRIEND, UM, MR. DAVID FROM WELDON COOPER CENTER, UH, AT UVA, WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH ANOTHER FRIEND OF OURS, UH, LIZ VAR, WHO DID WORK IN EMPORIA. UH, THE THREE OF US WERE ON A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, AND WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF THE RURAL OPPORTUNITY [00:10:01] DASHBOARD THAT WE'LL BE ROLLING OUT. I THINK IT'S ROLLING OUT ACTUALLY MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, BETA TESTED YESTERDAY AT THE SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA ECONOMIC FORUM. THE GOAL IS TO TELL THE STORY OF RURAL LOCALITIES AND THE ASSETS THAT THEY HAVE, NOT THE DETRIMENT. UM, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, DEITY COUNTY IS, UH, MUCH RICHER IN MANY WAYS THAN MAYBE THE CITY OF RICHMOND. HOPEFULLY NO ONE'S WATCHING FROM THERE. UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES. UM, HERE WE HAVE LAND. I THINK WE HAVE MORE DIVERSITY THAN A CITY THAT'S ALREADY BOXED IN WITH, UH, PROBABLY JUST ABOUT ALL THEY CAN HANDLE. AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO TELL A DIFFERENT STORY THAN MAYBE A LARGER CITY. UM, THE RURAL OPPORTUNITY DASHBOARD IS GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING FROM BROADBAND MAPS TO WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE TO, UH, THE AVAILABLE LAND RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING USED, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GROWING OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S GONNA LIST SOME OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS THERE. AND THEN ALSO FUNDING AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. I PROMISE I DIDN'T BRING MY BABY, BUT , UM, UH, BUT RURAL GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, ONLINE FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO LOOK AT SOMEWHERE. AND ALSO FOR ELECTEDS AND OTHERS IN A LOCALITY TO BE ABLE TO EASILY, UH, SOURCE ALL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IN ONE SPACE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER REALLY HAPPENED BEFORE. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, UH, SOME RURAL LOCALITIES CANNOT AFFORD IT, AN EXTENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. UM, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GREAT IDEAS AND WE NEED TO FIND REVENUE STREAMS TO ASSIST THEM. AND SO, UM, THAT WILL BE, I BELIEVE IT WAS BETA TESTED YESTERDAY, AND IT'LL BE FULL AND LIVE IN, IN THE COMING WEEK. SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THAT WITH YOUR LOCALITY AND TO SEE, UM, HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT TO MAXIMIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR YOU ALL. AND FOR BUSINESSES TO LOOK, UM, AT COUNTY FOR INVESTMENT. UM, THIS YEAR WE ALSO HAD A, A ROBUST CONVERSATION, I WOULD SAY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, IN THE FUTURE IN REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH. UM, WE KNOW THAT, UH, POST COVID, WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN, IN, UH, MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCIES. AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY GRAPPLING WITH BINDING NEW AND INNOVATIVE RESOURCES. UM, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL MONIES PUT INTO CRISIS STABILIZATION CENTERS IN THIS BUDGET. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'LL BE CONTINUALLY LOOKING AT AS WE PROCEED INTO, UM, THE FIRST YEAR OF THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR. IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS OR ANY THINGS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THIS COUNTY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH ME OR SEND AN EMAIL OR JUST TALK ABOUT, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I, I CAN'T KNOW, OR I, I CAN'T LEGISLATE PERFECTLY WITHOUT SOME OF YOUR INPUT AND YOUR ADVICE AS WELL. SO I WOULD WELCOME THAT. AND ANY VARIETY OF TOPICS. UM, THIS YEAR THERE WAS ALSO IN THE BUDGET, UM, AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLAR GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR DRONE REPLACEMENT. AND IF ANY, YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES ARE USING DRONES. UH, WE HAVE FOUND, UNFORTUNATELY, I CARRIED A DRONE BILL TO PROTECT OUR MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURES ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH AND ALSO OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS OUR, UM, POWER SEWER, NATURAL GAS, ALL OF IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE FOREIGN ENTITIES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT SOMETIMES MAY NOT LIKE AMERICANS AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEEK INTEL ON WHAT WE HAVE, UH, HERE, ESPECIALLY IN VIRGINIA. UM, AND SO, UH, THAT GRANT REPLACEMENT IS TO ALLOW ANY LOCALITY THAT CURRENTLY HAS ANY DRONE, UM, CAPABILITY OR A FLEET OF SUCH WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES TO REPLACE THOSE, UM, THROUGH THAT GRANT FUNDING PROGRAM. AND THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE TO ELIMINATE ANY, UH, FOREIGN PURCHASED ITEMS, UH, WITH THAT GRANT MONEY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN RECENTLY, BUT THERE'S BEEN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S BEING PUT INTO SOLAR PANELS. AND I THINK THIS CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE BEING MANUFACTURED, THAT THEY'RE, UH, SAFE FOR PEOPLE IN OUR LOCALITIES, UH, TO HAVE IN THEIR BACKYARD. SO IF THERE'S ANY, UM, ASSISTANCE I CAN OFFER IN REGARDS TO THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM, THIS SESSION, UH, WAS I THINK ACTUALLY, UM, LESS TUMULTUOUS AS THE MOST YEARS THAT MIGHT BE AN ELECTION YEAR FOR THE HOUSE, BUT CERTAINLY ISN'T FOR THE SENATE. AND SO I FELT THE SENATE OF VIRGINIA CAME TO A STRONG BIPARTISAN GREEN AMONG MANY THINGS, INCLUDING COMING TO A SAFE AND SOUND, UH, BUDGET, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PASS DOWN FOR LOCALITIES SUCH AS YOURS. UM, BUT I WILL ENCOURAGE YOU. SO, UM, I PLAN ON DOING THIS EVERY YEAR. IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE ME BACK, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR SESSION, UH, IT'S A LOT, UH, MORE INTENSIVE IN THE FIRST YEAR OF A BIENNIUM, BUT, UH, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, I'M SURE YOU SAW THE FINAL BUDGET, UH, DID ALLOW FOR, UM, TAX REBATES. WE, UM, OPTED, I GUESS AS A BODY COLLECTIVELY NOT TO HANDLE THE CAR TAX, BUT INSTEAD TO RETURN THAT MONEY TO VIRGINIANS. SO FOR SINGLE FILERS, THERE WILL BE A $200 REBATE AND FOR MARY FILERS WILL BE A 400 REBATE FOR THOSE WHO FILED THEIR TAXES IN VIRGINIA. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF INNOVATIVE THINGS THAT WE INCLUDE IN THIS BUDGET TO RETURN SOME DOLLARS TO VIRGINIA TAXPAYERS AS WELL. UM, BUT AGAIN, I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE, UM, ABLE TO WELCOME ME AT A POST SESSION REPORT EACH YEAR. I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. AND THEN ALSO, WHENEVER YOU'RE FORMING YOUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU ALL AT A TABLE AND TALK ABOUT HOW I CAN ASSIST AS WELL. I KNOW I DO HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIP OF THE SOUTHERN, UH, END [00:15:01] OF DINWITTY, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT, I WILL HELP YOU IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN AND I WOULD, UM, RELISH IN THE FACT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS, UH, FROM YOUR BOARD. ALRIGHT. QUESTIONS? ANY, I I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT, UM, MENTAL HEALTH. I'M GLAD THAT, UM, YOU ALL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. AND, UM, IT IS A, A HUGE PROBLEM. UM, I TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME, MENTAL HEALTH AND EVERYTHING. SO, UM, UH, EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD. SO, UM, MENTAL HEALTH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S A, IT IS A NEED FOR THAT. AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, UH, JUST ON YOUR AGENDA, SOMETIMES DRAINAGE ISSUES. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT. . SO IF YOU, UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN KIND OF WRITE DOWN, TALK ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. UM, FROM A, A, UM, AGRICULTURAL PERSPECTIVE, I WILL SHARE, WE DID INCLUDE ANOTHER, UM, 27 MILLION IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE, UH, BUDGET FOR AGRICULTURAL BEST PRACTICES MANAGEMENT. THAT DOESN'T OBVIOUSLY HANDLE EVERYTHING, BUT WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, HANDLING VPMS, IT GOES A LONG WAY TO HELP EVERYTHING OUT. SO THERE WAS ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT AS WELL. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. UM, MR. CHAIR, UH, VDOT MM-HMM . UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA MONEY YOU CAN PUT IN FOR MAINTENANCE? BECAUSE OUR ROADS, I MEAN, I, OUR ROADS, I THINK SOMEONE HERE FROM THE RESIDENCY I SAW ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE DAY, UM, I'M HOPING HE IS NOT LISTENING. OKAY. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. I WON'T, I WON'T EVEN TURN AROUND. GOOD. YOU WANNA TAKE THIS? NO, BUT I MEAN, HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S WHERE IT NEEDS THE MONEY. YOU MAKE IT WHERE HE CAN GET THE MONEY. SO I'M, I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR VDO. WE GET BEAT UP AND I KNOW EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD. I MEAN, I GOT ONE SO BAD THIS WEEK, IT WAS, UH, BAD. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, JUST, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE SO HE CAN'T SAY, SO HE CAN'T SAY WE ARE BROKE. RIGHT. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I DO. I I THINK I, I, THERE'S A, A COUPLE WAYS I CAN RESPOND TO THAT. SO, UM, FIRST, UM, WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT INFLUENCE INFLUENCE ON HOW UH, DOLLARS ARE SENT DOWN TO THE DIRECT RESIDENCY. SO THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. WE CAN PUT MORE MONEY IN BDOT, BUT HOW THAT GETS ALLOCATED, I WOULD SAY COMES FROM THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEN, UH, FLOWS DOWN THROUGH THE RESIDENCIES. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT I ACTUALLY TRIED TO WORK ON IN THE PAST, AND THIS MAY NOT BE POPULAR AT VDOT 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE MY BILL VERY MUCH. UM, BUT DEALING WITH SMART SCALE. SO SMART SCALE AND THE ROAD RATING SYSTEM YEAH. RIGHT. THAT IS UTILIZED IN VIRGINIA REALLY HAS NOT TAKEN INTO EFFECT OVER THE YEARS. I WOULD SAY, FROM MY PERSONAL OPINION, UM, THE SECONDARY ROADS ISSUE IN VIRGINIA, UH, INCLUDING OUR UPKEEP, OUR, YOU KNOW, THE EDGES OF OUR ROADS AND MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, PULL OFFS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY DOES ADDRESS THOSE. UM, WE DID HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BILL THIS YEAR THAT, UH, WAS A GRANT FUND THAT WAS STARTED FOR SECONDARY ROADS, BUT THERE WAS NOT MONEY YET PUT IN IT. 'CAUSE IT'S IN THE SECOND YEAR. THE BINUM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FIND A UNIQUE WAY TO ADDRESS SECONDARY ROADS BECAUSE IF WE KEEP ON GOING THROUGH, UM, TRYING TO GET FUNDING THROUGH A DIRECT SMART SCALE SYSTEM FOR EACH REGION, THE PROBLEM IS JUST RURAL ROADS ARE NEVER GONNA POP HIGH ENOUGH ON TRACK THAT COUNTS AND CONGESTION AND ALL THE OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TRULY QUALIFY AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL MM-HMM . BESIDES FOR, UM, MINOR MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADE PROJECTS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE A FLAW. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S A REALITY BECAUSE OF HOW LARGE OUR PLANNING DISTRICTS ARE AND THE OTHER LOCALITIES THAT WE'RE COMPETING WITH. UM, YOU KNOW, I I LIVE IN ETTE COUNTY AND I'M PART OF, UM, A PLANNING DISTRICT THAT IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE STATE. IT'S REALLY HARD TO COMPETE WITH VIRGINIA BEACH OR PORTSMOUTH OR NORFOLK WITH THEIR CONGESTION. AND SO I THINK, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. AND I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR SECONDARY ROADS. AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL WORK ON TACKLING. I I WAS ON VECO UH, TRANSPORTATION AND WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH SMART SCALE, I THINK IT SHOULD NAMED IT ANOTHER SCALE. 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, I WON'T GIVE YOU AN ACRONYM FOR IT. WELL, I I'VE NEVER SEEN REALLY, I MEAN ABOUT SMART SCALE WHEN IT CAME OUT, I HAVE SEEN NO SECONDARY ROADS. NO DIFFERENCE. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S MORE, WE HAVE MORE POTHOLES AND THAN WOODY COUNTY, I THINK, THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN THE STATE. REALLY? IT'S BAD. IT'S REAL BAD. I GOT A CALL FROM A GUY NOW, THIS IS BAD. HE, HE, HE SAYS, I LEAVE MY HOUSE ON A ROCK RE ROAD AND WHEN I GET TO THE SECONDARY ROADS, I SHOULD BE [00:20:01] RIDING LIKE SILK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME, MAN, WHAT AM I GONNA SAY TO THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT. YOU JUST HAVE TO, AND YOU'RE WORKING FOR US. I KNOW THAT. AND YOU'RE TRYING HARD, BUT SMART SCALE IS NOT A, SO I'M DONE MR. CHAVIS, IF YOU WANT, I WILL CERTAINLY COME OUT ONE AFTERNOON AND HELP YOU FILL SOME POTHOLES. I MEAN, I, I'LL OFFER MYSELF TO WORK PART-TIME FOR V WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, WHEN I GET IT, I HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO PASS IT, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE I GET BURNT. ABSOLUTELY. AND I TRIED TO PUT THE FIRE OUT 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA GET BURNED AGAIN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND I ALSO WOULD SHARE THAT, UM, I HOPE OUR, OUR FRIEND THAT'S HERE FROM VDOT, I THINK THAT'S BEHIND ME. UH, WE'LL SHARE THE, UM, WEBSITE FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR THAT'S LISTED ONLINE OR AT HOME. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS? NO. FOR, UM, POTHOLE REPORTING AND THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A SPECIFIC, UH, REPORT THERE WHERE YOU CAN UPLOAD A PHOTO OF THE POTHOLE, SHARE THAT, AND THEN FOLLOW UP ON THE REPORT TOO. SO I'D ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME. . I'M JUST KIDDING. IT'S A LOT. I LIKE YOU. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD FOR US, . THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, AND I LAUGHED WHEN BILL SAID VDOT, UM, BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, BUT MINE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANGLE. UM, AND I THINK IT'S A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM, PROBABLY STATEWIDE IS, UM, OUR SECONDARY RURAL ROADS, UM, ARE CARRYING MUCH BIGGER EQUIPMENT, FARM EQUIPMENT AND, UH, LOGGING EQUIPMENT NOW THAN THEY WERE. AND THESE ROADS REALLY NEED TO BE REBUILT. THEY DON'T, THE PATCHING REALLY WON'T, UH, DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THEY, THERE NEEDS ALMOST LIKE THE OLD CC CAMPS MM-HMM . UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEM AND IT'S PROBABLY A 50 YIELD PROJECT TO, BUT IF WE DON'T EVER GET STARTED, WE'LL NEVER GET FINISHED. UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING IF, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY LEFT SURPLUS MONEY IN THE BUDGET, UM, TO GET STARTED ON IT. AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BIG THING. I SEE. UM, MOST OF OUR SECONDARY ROADS ARE ROLLING, SO YOU GET A LOG TRUCK THAT HE'S NOT GONNA GET OVER BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET OVER. IF HE GETS OVER, HE TURNS OVER. MM-HMM . AND BOMBING. I'VE GOT A SON THAT, UM, COMBINE IS, IS AS BIG AS THE ROAD. SO WHEN HE MEETS SOMEBODY, HE, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA GET OUT THE ROAD. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GET STARTED SOMEWHERE. I I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I LIVE AROUND, UH, I LIVE IN A RURAL ROAD, VERY RURAL ROAD. SAME EXACT, UH, SITUATION. UH, I'LL BE CANDID WITH YOU AND EVERYTHING AROUND ME, THERE'S FARMS ALL AROUND MY HOME. I I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF 2,700 ACRES THAT IS FARMED AROUND ME. AND, UM, COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. UM, I'VE CARRIED BILLS IN THE PAST TO KIND OF ADDRESS SMART SCALE IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE CREATIVE. UM, AND I THINK THAT THE, I'M HOPING THE FUNDING, UM, OR THE A BILL THAT PASSED THIS YEAR TO DO SECONDARY ROAD FUNDING, THE LANGUAGE IS THERE NOW. AND I'M HOPING IN THE FIRST YEAR, NEXT YEAR AT THE WE'LL ACTUALLY, UH, PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AS A GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ADDRESS SECONDARY ROAD FUNDING. AND I'LL BE, TRUST ME, A STRONG ADVOCATE AND MAKE SURE WE PUT SOME DOLLARS INTO THAT TO START TACKLING THIS ISSUE. YEP. THANK YOU MS. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEP. UM, SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND BEING WITH US THIS AFTERNOON. ONE, I WANNA GIVE YOU A PRAISE. UM, FOR MULTIPLE YEARS WE HAVE DEALT WITH FUNDING FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND I'M THANKFUL TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THEY HAVE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND INCREASED OUR DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TOWARDS PUBLIC EDUCATION IN PARTICULAR THIS YEAR, THE INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR SUPPORT STAFF. UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE GOING DOWN THAT PATH. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, WE HAD TO STEP UP WHEN THE STATE WASN'T GIVING MORE FUNDS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. THIS COUNTY, THIS BOARD, UH, STEPPED UP TO HELP OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND I'M JUST VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. UM, THE OTHER IS, UH, OUR, THE PROPERTY AT CENTRAL STATE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE MENTIONED THAT TO YOU LAST TIME I MET, I MET WITH YOU, IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN GENERAL TO, TO SPUR ON, UM, THE AVAILABILITY OF THAT PROPERTY FOR DENWOOD COUNTY AND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD. IF, IF I COULD ASK, UM, MAYBE IF, UM, MR. MAKIN WOULD SEND ME THE FORMAL SPECS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON THAT TO MY SENT EMAIL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. GO AHEAD TO, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ECHO, UM, WHAT DR. MOORE SAID. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. UH, THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HOPE THAT WE CAN, UH, TAP INTO THAT AND, [00:25:01] AND ACCESS SOME OF THAT FUNDING THROUGH GRANTS. UM, UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS, UM, BEING PART OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, OUR LIEUTENANT OF PATROL IS HERE TODAY. HE KNOWS ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, THE COVERAGE TO, TO COVER OFFICERS THAT ARE SITTING AT HOSPITALS WAITING FOR BEDS TO BECOME AVAILABLE. IT'S A, IT'S A BATTLE THAT CONTINUES TO NEED TO BE FOUGHT, UM, IN, IN THE WAY THAT WE HANDLE THE, THE ECOS AND TDS. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THE DRONE UPGRADES, IT'S, UH, BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITIES, FIRE AND RESCUE FOR FINDING, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT ARE MISSING AND ENDANGERED. SO THE STATE ALLOCATING MONEY FOR THOSE TOOLS AND RESOURCES FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS FANTASTIC. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK OUT FOR US FOR THE UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE STATE. UM, AND JUST KEEP US IN MIND WHEN, WHEN BILLS ARE PUSHED THROUGH THAT THAT DEAL WITH MEDICINES AND OUR PHARMACEUTICAL PHARMACEUTICALS THAT NOW WE'RE HAVING TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STAFF FOLKS THAT ARE SUPPLYING THOSE MUCH NEEDED RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND LETTING US KNOW, UH, ALL THE GOOD STUFF THAT'S GOING ON AND SOME OF THE HARDSHIPS THAT YOU'RE FACING ALSO. ABSOLUTELY. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, IN REGARDS TO UNFUNDED MANDATES, I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT FINALLY THIS YEAR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PUT, UM, A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EACH, UH, SAQ FUNDED POSITION IN SCHOOLS. THAT WAS NO REQUIREMENT OF LOCALITY MATCH. SO HOPEFULLY THAT EASED A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN FOR BEING ABLE TO, UH, REWARD OUR EDUCATIONAL STAFF. YES, YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, WE, WE WERE CONTACTED MONTHS AGO BY, UH, SENATOR JORDAN'S OFFICE TO, TO COME AND SPEAK. SO I, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A FEW YEARS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER HAD PROACTIVELY I MIGHT ADD A, A MEMBER OF THE SENATE. AND SO THE 17TH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, NINE LOCALITIES, UH, I HAVE 10. AND SOMEONE WOULD, I, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE. OKAY. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CHESAPEAKE, UM, THE BOTTOM HALF OF DENWITTY AND THEN ALL OF SUFFOLK ISLAND, WHITE FRANKLIN, SOUTH HAMPTON, GREENSVILLE, BRUNSWICK, EMPORIA. WOW. WOW. SO TO, I JUST WANNA SAY SHOW THAT THIS IS LIKE INTENTIONAL FROM SENATOR TO JORDAN. OH, AND HALF THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH. I DIDN'T SAY THAT TO, TO COME OUT HERE AND, AND DO THIS. RIGHT. AND SO, YES. UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT A, AT A VACO REGIONAL MEETING AT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE SENATE DISTRICT WAS, WAS PUT IN THE WAY THAT IT HAD, UH, HAS NOW. AND YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT AT THAT TIME THAT WHEN YOU WERE A DELEGATE THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING WAS A PASSION OF YOURS. BUT I I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE BOARD, UM, I KNOW THEY ALREADY KNOW THIS 'CAUSE THEY, THEY APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE PROACTIVELY GOING TO ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES EVEN BEFORE THE, THE LEGISLATURE WAS OVER, I THINK SHOWS THAT PASSION OF WHAT WHERE YOU'RE AT. SO WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP THAT WHEN EVEN THAT, THAT PART OF DEITY, THAT'S MAINLY MR. DOOLEY AND, AND, UH, MR. LEE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF MR. CHAVIS. UM, BUT IT'S, IT IS THAT RURAL PART WHICH IS IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE. SO WE, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING PROACTIVE. I'M FROM RURAL VIRGINIA. I LOVE IT. AND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A MUCH MORE UNIQUE AND BETTER STORY TO TELL AND I WANNA BE ABLE TO FIGHT FOR YOU GUYS TO TELL IT ANY WAY THAT I CAN. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU DID HONOR TO BE THERE. YOU DID A GREAT JOB LAST YEAR AT THE WINERY. I ENJOYED YOUR SPEECH THERE TOO. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN EVER DO WITH YOU THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I'LL BE GLAD TO VISIT. UH, TAKE A PHONE CALL OR A MEETING AT ANY TIME. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. ALRIGHT, MOVING [6.B. Virginia Department Of Transportation] ALONG. UH, MR. FRENCH FROM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. MR. CHAIRMAN WAS THE BOARD. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, BAYTON ROAD. THE BRIDGE IS CURRENTLY STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. FELLOWS OUT THERE DID DISCOVER SOME BEDROCK THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER ELEVATION THAN ANTICIPATED. UH, SO THAT'S GONNA SET THEM BACK PROBABLY A WEEK OR TWO. HAD TO GET A VERY, VERY LARGE JACKHAMMER, UH, TO WORK ON THAT BEDROCK AND GET IT DOWN TO GET THAT, UH, FOOTING FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE AT THE PROPER ELEVATION. UM, WE'RE WORKING ON GEARING UP FOR RURAL RUSTIC PROJECTS. UM, WE'RE GONNA DO TRANQUILITY LANE FIRST. UM, SHOULD SEE SOME TREE CUTTING GOING ON OUT THERE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UM, GONNA BE A SLIGHT DELAY ON SOME OF THAT. WE'RE WAITING FOR SOME RENTAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA GET HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN JUNE. UM, PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MOWING, UH, IS NEARLY COMPLETE IN THE COUNTY AND INTERSTATE MOWING IS GONNA BEGIN MID-JUNE, UM, WITH, UH, THE INTERCHANGE AT 85 AND ROUTE ONE BEING DONE EVERY TWO WEEKS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AS WELL. UM, HAD A DISCUSSION WITH OUR INTERSTATE OFFICE THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT POTHOLE ON 85 THERE AT 63 A AND B AS [00:30:01] WELL. UM, THEY'RE PLANNING TO MOBILIZE AND DO A PERMANENT MITIGATION TO THOSE POTHOLES AT THE INTERCHANGE. UM, GOT SOME GOOD NEWS LAST WEEK ABOUT A HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT, UM, PROJECT COMING TO THE COUNTY. NOT JUST THIS COUNTY, BUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT. UM, H CIP IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM FOR, UH, DIFFERENT SAFETY FUNDING SCENARIOS. UH, THIS ONE AIMED JUST FOR RURAL ROUTES, UM, SECONDARIES AND PRIMARIES ALIKE. UH, THE INTENT OF THIS STUDY IS TO IMPLEMENT PRACTICES AND AND DEVICES TO PREVENT, UM, RUN OFF THE ROAD CRASHES MORE OR LESS, GAIN MORE DRIVER TENSION. UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON ROUTE 40, UM, AND SOME PLACES IT'S GONNA BE WIDER EDGE LINE MARKING. SO THE WHITE LINE THAT'S FOUR INCHES NOW IS GONNA GO TO EIGHT INCHES TO GIVE THAT DRIVER. THE, THE PERCEPTION OF THE WHITE LINE IS MORE PRONOUNCED. THEY'RE GONNA WANNA STAY IN THEIR LANE. UM, THEY'RE GONNA REPLACE CENTER LINE RUMBLE STRIPS IN SOME AREAS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN PAVED OVER. UM, INSTALL SOME CURVE SIGNS, ADVANCED WARNING SIGNS FOR CURVES, UM, AND INCREASE GUARDRAIL REFLECTION AS WELL. SO WHAT DELINEATORS ON GUARDRAILS. SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AT NIGHT, GUARDRAILS MUCH MORE VISIBLE. UM, GOT A FULL LIST OF SECONDARY ROADS THAT, UH, HAVE SOME OF THIS FUNDING COMING TO THEM AS WELL. IT'S SIX 13 GILLS BRIDGE ROAD. GONNA GET CENTER LINE MARKINGS AND CURVE WARNING SIGNS ON THAT ROAD. UH, SIX 13 WHITE OAK AS WELL. CENTER LINE MARKINGS AND CURVE SIGNS. SIX 13 SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD. GONNA GET CENTER LINE MARKINGS AND CURVE SIGNS. UH, PROBABLY THE MOST NOTABLE IS 6 27 COURTHOUSE ROAD IS GONNA GET CENTER LINE RUMBLE STRIPS FROM FOUR 60 TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, I THINK THAT THE SOUTH OF THAT COMING THIS WAY DID NOT QUALIFY, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING DENSITY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE RURAL NORTH OF THE NORTH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, BUT, UM, THAT'LL BE COMING IN, UH, MID-JUNE TIMEFRAME. THAT CONTRACTORS GONNA MOBILIZE TO THE AREA. ALSO GOT, UH, CENTERLINE MARKINGS AND CURVE WARNING SIGNS COMING ON LOU JONES ROAD AND HAMILTON ARMS ROAD AS WELL. SO GOOD, GOOD STUFF HAPPENING ON THIS SECONDARY ROUTE. SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. THE BEST PART OF THAT IS THAT IT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED. THAT'S NOT COMING OUTTA MY MAINTENANCE DOLLARS, UM, OR ANY KIND OF COUNTY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT MONEY AS WELL. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THE BOARD THIS AFTERNOON. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I GOT PHONE CALLS, UM, ABOUT THE RUMBLE STRIPS ON FOUR 60 APPROACHING COURTHOUSE THAT THEY'RE PRETTY WORN OUT. ALSO, THE RUMBLE STRIPS ON COURTHOUSE ROAD APPROACHING FOUR 60 ARE ALSO SHOWING SOME WEAR AND TEAR. AND THEN I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT THE TURN LANE INTO DOLLAR GENERAL THERE IN SUTHERLAND. UH, JUST A GENTLEMAN CONCERNED HIS TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT TURN, UH, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH VOLUME HOURS, EARLY MORNING AND EVENING. UH, YOU KNOW, JUST WORRIED ABOUT ACCIDENTS. UH, NOT THAT WE'VE HAD ANY, BUT HE ASKED ME TO PASS IT ON TO YOU AND SEE IF YOU WOULD, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SITE PLAN DONE AND THE SITE DISTANCE WAS CORRECT, BUT, UH, MAYBE THE, THE LANE IS NOT QUITE LONG ENOUGH TO ALLOW TRACTOR TRAILERS TO MERGE OVER WITHOUT SLOWING TO A ALMOST STOP. MM-HMM . YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT WHAT EXACTLY WAS DONE FOR RECONSTRUCTION. I KNOW THAT A TURN LANE WAS CONSIDERED FOR THAT PROJECT, UM, AS, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE, THE TRIP VOLUME DIDN'T, DIDN'T WARRANT MORE OR LESS A, A TURN LANE WITH THE SITE DISTANCE AS WELL BEING ADEQUATE. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE MEASURED WHAT, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT. WE SHOULD HAVE BUT DOUBLE CHECK IT AND, UM, POSSIBLY GO OUT THERE AND ADD, ADD SOME MILLING MATERIAL, SOME STONE TO THE SHOULDER JUST TO MAKE SURE THOSE TRACTOR TRAILERS HAVE A GOOD RUNNING PATH IF THEY DO NEED TO SCOOT OVER OUTSIDE OF THE PSEUDO TURN. THANK YOU SIR. MM-HMM . YEAH. UM, ON, UM, HEIMER WAY, UM, NEAR AFTER YOU PASSED ALL GENERAL, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIGN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE INTERSTATE 4 60, 85 AND ALL THAT, UM, PEOPLE COMING UP UP TO THE END OF THE ROAD, UH, BOYS AND PLANK, THE SIGN IS COVERED WITH, UM, SOME, UH, BRANCHES GREEN AND RED. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY, YOU CAN ONLY SEE A PART OF IT. I SAW THAT THE OTHER DAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I WILL SAY THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR, UM, CITIZENS MAY HAVE NOTICED, UM, SOME SIGNS FOR DETOUR ON FORT LEE ROAD IN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. UM, THAT STRUCTURE THAT GOES OVER 85 WAS HIT LAST OCTOBER. UM, WE'VE BEEN IN BATTLE WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS ON THAT STRUCTURE. UH, TRYING TO DO ONE WAY, ONE WAY TRAVEL ON THE STRUCTURE THROUGH AN UNMANNED LANE CLOSURE THAT DIDN'T WORK. SO WE ULTIMATELY DID A FULL CLOSURE ON THAT STRUCTURE. UM, SO THOSE SIGNS ARE UP AND DOWN ROUTE ONE AND THEY DO DO SNEAK INTO DENWOODY COUNTY. SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE SIGNS ARE FOR, [00:35:01] FOR THAT DETOUR. UM, THAT PROJECTS COULDN'T GO TO ADVERTISEMENT LATER ON THIS SPRING. PROBABLY START CONSTRUCTION OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME, UH, WITH ABOUT A TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION DURATION. SO THOSE DETOUR SIGNS ON ROUTE ONE ON THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY WILL BE THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT, UM, WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE AND MAINTAINING THEM. YEAH. YEAH. UM, I WAS WITH A FRIEND LAST NIGHT THAT LIVES CLOSE TO BAIN ROAD AND HE WANTED ME TO ASK YOU JUST A QUESTION. ARE YOU RENTING THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THE ROAD WITH? I'M NOT CERTAIN SIR. UM, BRIDGE CREW. THAT'S BRIDGE CREW PROJECT. YEAH. THEY DON'T REPORT TO ME. WELL, I, I'M JUST SAYING, ASKING THE QUESTION HE ASKED ME, I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HIM. I SAID, I DON'T THINK VDOT DOES THE WORK. IT'S CONTRACTED OUT. UM, IT IS MORE THAN LIKELY IT IS A CONTRACT. UM, THE BRIDGE CREWS HAVE AN ON-CALL HEIGHT EQUIPMENT CONTRACT MUCH LIKE I DO FOR MAINTENANCE. SO IT IS PROBABLY THAT A LOT OF TIMES WITH SOME OF THE SPECIALTY EXCAVATORS, LIKE THEY HAVE THE, THE HOVERING THAT THEY HAD TO GET TO BREAK THAT BEDROCK, THEY'VE GOT AN ON-CALL CONTRACTOR THAT CAN BRING THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, UM, BASICALLY ON RELATIVELY SHORT NOTICE IF THEY NEED TO. WELL I'M, I'M JUST ASKING WHAT HE ASKED ME TO SAY AND HE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ME AND WATCHING ME NOW. SO, UH, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY YES. FOR THOSE EXCAVATORS BECAUSE IT'S STILL THERE, THE RENTAL PROPERTY MM-HMM . AND I'M GOING, I MEAN, I, THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT TRYING TO GET THE BRIDGE OPEN. YES, SIR. AND WHEN IS THE BRIDGE GOING BE? YOU SAID IN A WEEK OR SO? IS THERE A DEADLINE? THERE IS A DEADLINE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW THE PLANNED OPENING IS THE LAST WEEK OF JULY. MM-HMM . OKAY. WELL I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I GET IT AND I KNOW YOU COMING IN, SO I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, THAT'S ALL. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SMART OR NASTY IN ANY WAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO, AND I'M, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THEY, THEY ARE USING THAT ON-CALL CONTRACT WHEN THAT EQUIPMENT IS SITTING. WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT. WE PAY HOURLY FOR THAT EQUIPMENT, TYPICALLY HOURLY WITH OPERATOR. SO AS LONG AS IT'S THERE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PAYING, YOU KNOW, BY THE HOUR FOR IT TO SIT THERE FOR A WEEK, DURATION NOT GET USED. WHEN, WHEN AN OPERATOR GETS IN IT AND IT STARTS WORKING, IT GOES, GOES ON THE LOCK. WELL THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HIM. I THOUGHT IT WAS CONTRACTED INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, BDOT AND ALL IT COSTING US. SO I, LIKE I SAY, I'M PASSING IT ON WHEN I GET IT, I KNOW WHO I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO. RIGHT. YES SIR. AND NOTHING AGAINST YOU. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, AND I'LL BRING THIS UP AND I'M GONNA ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON IT TONIGHT, BUT, UM, HAD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT BALTIMORE ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MR. DOOLEY'S DISTRICT, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT'S A, A, UM, WAS A ROAD WE DID TWO YEARS AGO. AND SO, UM, MR. INGAL AND I WROTE IT, UM, AND, UH, IT'S BAD ENOUGH IN MY CHEVROLET, BUT TO RIDE IN HIS FORWARD ON IT, UM, IT, IT REALLY, UM, THAT'S NOT GOOD. SHOWED I BUMP IT WAS, BUT NOW, AND, AND WHAT I'M, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET AT THAT ROAD IS LESS THAN TWO YEARS OLD AND FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, IT'S BASICALLY FALLING APART. AND ON THE, I GUESS THE NORTH END OF IT, Y'ALL HAVE PUT ASPHALT IN SECTIONS, UM, NOT VERY SMOOTHLY. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT, ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SCOTCH ROAD, UM, THAT EDGES ARE, ARE COMING APART ON IT FROM REALLY FROM TO FINISH. UM, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A RES RATHER RESIDENCY CHECKS ON THOSE ROADS PERIODICALLY OR WHETHER IT'S COMPLAINT DRIVEN. IF IT'S COMPLAINT DRIVEN, THEN I'D LIKE TO COMPLAIN. UM, BUT REALLY SOMEBODY FROM VDOT OUGHT TO RIDE THESE ROADS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND, UM, AND IT WOULDN'T BE, AND IF IT WAS AN OLDER ROAD, IT, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN A ROAD THAT'S TWO YEARS OLD, SO MM-HMM . YEAH. SO I, I WILL SAY THAT, THAT WITH THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION OF BALTIMORE ROAD, WE DID RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH WEATHER, UM, THAT SEASON WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THAT ROAD, A LOT OF RAIN, UH, PROBABLY TOO MUCH MOISTURE IN THE SUBGRADE FOR THAT, THAT ROAD THEN, THEN IT REALLY SHOULD HAVE, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION AND BEING A NEW ROAD, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BUILDUP OF, OF ASPHALT OR SURFACE TREATMENT LIKE WE'VE GOT, UM, ON OUR OTHER SEASONED SECONDARY ROADS. UM, THAT COMBINED WITH THE WINTER THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, IS, IS NOT DOING US ANY FAVORS ON THAT ROUTE. UM, I SEE EVERY WORK ORDER THAT COMES [00:40:01] INTO THIS RESIDENCY AND I READ EVERY SINGLE ONE. SO I, I AM AWARE OF SOME ISSUES OUT THERE ON BALTIMORE ROAD. UM, I HAVEN'T READ MYSELF IN SINCE FEBRUARY. UM, SO I'LL PUT IT ON MY LIST TO DO THAT. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, THAT THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING OUT THERE, THAT ASPHALT, THEY, THEY'RE DIGGING IT DOWN DEEP, UM, AND, AND BUILDING THEIR WHOLE SUBGRADE OF THE ROAD ROAD BACK UP RATHER THAN JUST, JUST PATCHING IT OVER. UM, I'VE ALSO SUBMITTED THAT ROAD TO PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, UM, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION AS WELL. SAME STYLE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON MASON'S CHURCH ROAD RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND MILLING THE ENTIRE ROAD UP, MIXING IT WITH CEMENT, PUTTING IT BACK DOWN, UM, MAKING A VERY, VERY HARD SURFACE THAT DOES NOT POTHOLE ANYMORE. UM, SO WE, WE ARE AWARE OF IT. UM, AND I'LL TAKE A, TAKE A RIDE THROUGH THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE ANY IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY? MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, AARON, WE'RE JUST GONNA SUGGEST IF THE HEAD OF PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT WANTS TO GET A HOT CUP OF COFFEE, WE'RE GLAD TO GET A HOT CUP OF COFFEE AND TAKE THEM DOWN BALTIMORE ROAD. . RIGHT? JUST DON'T LET DAN DRIVE AND DON'T RIDE IN HIS BIG YEAH, HE BEAT ME ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A BRONCO TOO. IT WAS. THANK YOU. YEP. ALRIGHT, THANKS. YES SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. SEE YOU TONIGHT. I'M GONNA STAY FOR OUR, FOR OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM. PAUL HENSON IS NOT HERE. THANK YOU AARON. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE [7.A. Contract Award, On-Site Installation Of Sheriff Vehicle Equipment] ALONG TO ACTION, ACTION. ACTION ITEMS. CONTRACT AWARD, ONSITE INSTALLATION OF SHERIFF VEHICLE EQUIPMENT. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT OFFICER KNOT. MM-HMM . YEP. MADE, YEP. I CAN SEE THAT FAR NOW. SO I'M GETTING BETTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS, AS HE'S COMING UP, I NEED TO READ A DISCLOSURE REALLY QUICK IN REFERENCE TO THIS. AS A RESULT OF MY EMPLOYMENT WITH DEITY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I'LL ABSTAIN FROM ANY DISCUSSION OR VOTE ON ACTION. ITEM SEVEN, A CONTRACT AWARD ONSITE INSTALLATION OF SHERIFF'S VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AS IT PERTAINS SOLELY TO THE DEITY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. VAGI COME TO YOU ON BEHALF OF SHERIFF ADAMS, UH, THIS EVENING IN REFERENCE TO RENEWING THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, 10 CODE ELITE SERVICES, LLC. UH, THAT IS THE COMPANY THAT DOES ALL THE UPFITTING GRAPHICS AND, UH, EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT FOR ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES. UH, WE'VE BEEN IN A CONTRACT WITH, UH, 10 CODE SINCE 2020. UM, UH, IT INCLUDES, UH, COMPLETE, WE, WE BRING THE CARS IN THERE FROM THE DEALERSHIP, UH, WHEN THEY ROLL OUT, THEY'RE READY TO GO TO WORK, UM, FROM, FROM FRONT TO BEGINNING TO END, UH, ALL THE GRAPHICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UH, 10 CODE LEAD SERVICES. LSE IS A SOLE SOURCE VENDOR. UH, HE DOES ONSITE INSTALLATION OF OUR WORK. HE, HE'S VERY ACCOMMODATING TO OUR SCHEDULE. UH, HE, UH, KIND OF A ONE MAN SHOP AND HE DOES MOST ALL, ALL OF OUR WORK AT, UH, THE, UH, THE TRAINING BUILDING. AND WE CAN, UH, VERY EASILY SCHEDULE WORK ON HIS SCHEDULE AND OUR SCHEDULE TOGETHER TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED. UM, HE, UH, UH, HAS NOT GONE UP ON HIS IN THIS, UH, UH, UH, THIS CONTRACT RENEWAL. HE HADN'T GONE UP ON HIS COST OVER THE LAST CONTRACT. UH, AND, UH, THEY, UH, WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY, UH, ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT WITH 10 CODE, UH, FOR NOT TO EXCEED $150,000 QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, MR. CHAIR? I MAKE A MOTION. WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED CONTRACT. THAT IS SECOND. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY ABSTAIN. MR. LEE? AYE. FOUR AYES. ONE ABSTAINED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILLIAM. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT, [7.B. VDOT State Maintenance Acceptance- Chesdin Pointe Drive] MOVING ALONG. WE'LL GO TO B VDOT STATE MAINTENANCE ACCEPTANCE. CHOSEN POINT DRIVE ON TO, WE'VE GOT PAUL HENSON, BUT I'M NOT SURE HE'S HERE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE, UH, THIS IS JUST A, A SMALL SECONDARY ROAD. UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, EVERYTHING QUALIFIES FOR IT TO BE ACCEPTED IN THE STATE MAINTENANCE. OUR MAINTENANCE FOLKS HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND GAVE US THE GO AHEAD, AS IN GOOD CONDITION, NOT GONNA BE ANY, ANY BURDEN FOR US TO MAINTAIN. SO WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE WILL BE GONNA BEGIN MAINTAINING THAT ROUTE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NOPE. WITH THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS SUBMITTED. SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. [00:45:01] UM, ROLL CALL PLEASE. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. MR. LEE ALL VOTING? AYE, YOU DO NOW. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. ALRIGHT, [7.C. Cooperative Management Agreement For Five Forks Visitors Center With The National Parks Service] AT THIS TIME, COOPERATIVE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR FIVE FORKS VISITORS CENTER WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. CORNELL. HENDERSON. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MR. MASSENGILL. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, TODAY WE BRING TO YOU, UM, THE COOPERATIVE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR FAL FORKS AND THEN WITH THE COUNTY, UH, BY THE WAY OF NPS TO, UM, BRING SOME LIGHT ON THIS, UH, HISTORIC COMMUNITY, THIS HISTORIC BUILDING. UH, WE WANNA BRING, UH, SOME LIGHT ON THAT THROUGH RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, UM, ALSO THROUGH SOME TOURISM ACTIVITIES TO KIND OF BUILD OUR LOCAL TOURISM. UM, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF, UM, THINGS WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT, UM, THAT WE ARE GONNA DO BETWEEN NPS AND ALSO THE COUNTY, UM, THROUGH MARKETING AND OUR PROGRAMMING. UM, THIS WOULD BE, UM, HIGHLIGHTED THROUGH OUR TOURISM CHANNELS, UM, WITH THE HELP OF PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, ALSO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WITH RECREATION, WE WILL COME IN ON FRIDAYS AND MONDAYS, THE OPERATION WILL ACTUALLY BE FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY, 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM UM, ON THE COUNTY SIDE, RECREATION WILL COME IN ON FRIDAYS AND MONDAYS 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM UM, TO DO OPERATIONS. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE VISITOR SERVICES. UM, NATIONAL PARK SERVICES WILL PROVIDE TRAINING TO ALL OF THE COUNTY, UM, MEMBERS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. AS FAR AS, UM, PEOPLE COMING IN WANTING TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE BUILDING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR THAT. UM, FOR HIGH QUALITY EXPERIENCE. UM, THE COUNTY WILL ALSO MANAGE THE ROUTINE FACILITY CLEANING OF THE BUILDING, UM, TO INCLUDE THE LAWN CARE RESPONSIBILITIES. RIGHT? UM, IF YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED AT EXHIBIT B, UM, IT WILL SHOW YOU ALL OF THE SITES. UM, IT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER 10 ACRES, UM, THAT WE WILL, UH, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. UM, ALSO WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE NPS AND COUNTY TOGETHER. UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS FOSTER THE COOPERATION, INCLUDING QUARTERLY MEETINGS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE, UM, DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS FAR AS THE ANNUAL OPERATIONS. UM, AND ALSO ADDRESS ANY PLANS OR ISSUES, UM, THAT WE'RE HAVING. UM, AT THIS MOMENT, UM, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY, UM, TO BUILD VOLUNTEER SUPPORT THAT WILL BE RECEIVING THAT TRAINING AS WELL. UM, AND ALSO THAT INCLUDES THE TRAIL MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS GONNA BE A HUGE PART, UM, OF THIS FIVE FOUR CENTER. UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ASKED THE BOARD TO BLESS THIS AGREEMENT, UM, AS WE STARTED THE FISCAL YEAR. I DO WANT TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS THROUGH, UM, THE BUDGET PREP FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND HOPEFULLY AT THE START OF JULY ONE. UM, WE CAN GET THIS ROLLING AND AGAIN, BUILD SOME LOCAL TOURISM AND GET PEOPLE INTO THE FIVE FOUR CENTER. UM, SO AT THIS TIME WE DO HAVE MEMBERS HERE FROM, UM, NPS. WE HAVE MS. STACY HERE. WE ALSO HAVE, UH, MR. UM, MARK HARRISON HERE AS WELL. IF WE ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT YOU ALL MAY NEED TO ANSWER. ALRIGHT. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, JUST, JUST A COMMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, WE CAN REMEMBER WHEN IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THE BUILDING BUILT AT FIVE FORKS. UM, HAVING BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THAT OCCURRED. AND THEN OF COURSE WHAT WE'VE TRANSPIRED WITH COVID AND THE, THE, THE, JUST THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PROPERTY AND, AND THIS TYPE OF THING. BUT I SEE THIS AS A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH FOR DENWITTY COUNTY. WE TALK ABOUT PARKS, UM, AN IDEAL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS, RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY. UM, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND HAVE IT OPEN FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO COME AS WELL AS WITH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. I THINK THAT THEY WILL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS AS WE GO FORWARD. SO I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH DENWITTY AND FOR THE PARK SERVICE. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF IT BRINGING FORWARD. YEAH. I'M JUST GONNA BASE YEAH. SAY THE SAME THING, THAT I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN, UM, SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY TO COME AND, AND VISIT AND, UM, UM, I WILL ASK, I'M ALWAYS ASKING THE ANIMAL STORY, SO JUST WONDER TO KNOW, DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANIMALS OUT THERE AND IN THE PARK AREA? BEARS, , NOT BEARS, NOBODY ELSE ON THAT PARK? NO BEARS AT ALL. BEARS AT ALL? YEAH. JUST CURSE. WELL, PEOPLE DO ASK, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT , I, AND I LOVE ANIMALS ANYWAY, BUT I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WANNA ASK ABOUT THAT IN CASE YOU WALKING THROUGH THERE IF YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, SEE SOMETHING. SO TALKING WITH OUR, ALWAYS WITH SOMEBODY SLOWER [00:50:01] THAN YOU ARE, UH, UH YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE AFTER I RUN 'EM. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, TALKING WITH OUR TEAM, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO INCORPORATE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANT IDENTIFICATIONS, UM, DOING SOME ANIMAL IDENTIFICATIONS, IF THEY'RE ANY ANIMALS. OKAY. BUGS, ANY LITTLE CRITTERS. YEAH. UM, SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR PROGRAM FOCUSES THAT WE WANT TO DO TO KIND OF OPEN, UM, OPEN PROGRAMING AT FIVE FORKS. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO WE, WE, WE'LL GET YOU THAT ANSWER HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE 365. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T LIKE BUGS, BUT YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND, AND I GUESS MY COMMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN PAMPLIN PARK DID THE, UM, PROJECT WITH US A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO OPEN UP THE PARK AND, AND I WAS JUST AMAZED AT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT TOOK UP ON JUST THE WALKING AND THE TRAILS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE UNBELIEVABLE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA USE THIS BOTH FOR WALKING AND THEN THE EQUESTRIAN PART OF IT TOO. UM, BUT IT, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS, TO HAVE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COUNTY IS, IS IS TRULY AMAZING. AND, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, ANIMAL IDENTIFICATION, IF YOU'RE WALKING THOSE TRAILS, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT A COPPERHEAD LOOKS LIKE, AND A BEAR, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND BAS AND I'M SURE. SO, UH, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MAYBE I NEED TO STOP WALKING, HOLDING OUT, BUT I I THINK IT'S GREAT TOO. WE HAD THE WALKTHROUGH AND I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE, SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT THING. YEAH. YEAH. MS. MS. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND WE SEEM TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MOMENTUM, UH, HEADED IN THIS DIRECTION. AND I, I HAPPEN TO REFLECT BACK ON, YOU KNOW, AS ARE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, THEY PAY, UH, OBVIOUSLY FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL TAXES, AND SOMETIMES WE CAN GET OUR INDIVIDUAL SILOS AND WE FORGET, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETIMES WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE BY WORKING TOGETHER IS, IS TO BASICALLY EXPAND ACCESS TO AN ASSET THAT'S ALREADY THERE. RIGHT? AND SO FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT, IF WE WERE DECIDE, UH, DECIDED TO GO OUT AND ACQUIRE LAND, BUILD A PARK, HAVE ACCESS TO TRAILS, JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT THE EXPENSE, I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THE FACT THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD ALREADY SEEN THE WISDOM TO DO THIS AT FIVE FORKS, BUT HAD SOME LIMITED RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. THE FACT THAT THE LOCALITY AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO, TO INCREASE ACCESS, I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES. AND I HOPE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, WE SEE THAT THERE, THERE IS A WAY TO, TO WORK TO TOGETHER EVEN THE, THE GOVERNMENT FOLKS CAN WORK TOGETHER TO EXPAND THAT ACCESS. BUT I WANTED TO SAY, AND WE STARTED WITH LOUIS ROGERS ON THIS, BUT, UH, ALEXA VEZ, OUR SUPERINTENDENT, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UM, SHE GOT TO GET THE FOOTBALL, I GUESS ABOUT THE 30, 40 YARD LINE AND WAS ADAMANT THAT SHE WAS GONNA RUN IT TO THE END ZONE. AND SO IF, IF THE FOOTBALL WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT IN HER HAND, I DON'T KNOW, WE'D BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY. RIGHT. SO I, YOU KNOW, JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LEADERSHIP AND EFFORT, UM, BUT WITH, WITH ALEX AND, AND HER STAFF TO, TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO I JUST, I WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT WASN'T, WASN'T FOR HER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DID AND ARE DOING. THANK YOU. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON ANYTHING, ANYBODY? I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, UH, AGAIN, I DO THINK IT'S, UM, HISTORIC IF, IF NOTHING ELSE. SO, UM, NO, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN LEE, I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE COME HERE AND TO HAVE BEEN HANDED THIS OPPORTUNITY WALKING IN THE DOOR THAT HAD ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATION UNDERWAY AND IT WAS REALLY THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, AS, AS MR. MASSING SAID, UH, SEE IT TO THE FINISH LINE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE ALL SERVE. UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED THE TRAILS THAT NETWORK OUT THERE IS, IS WELL LOVED AND THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST EXCITED. AND I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE THE EFFORT, UM, OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY TEAM, MR. MASSENGILL, TAMMY, STACY, AND CORNELL TO GET HERE AS WELL. MM-HMM . SO WITH GRATITUDE, THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEP. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? MM-HMM. ALRIGHT. DID WE NEED A YEP. NEED A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE AS PRESENTED. OKAY. SO MOVED. AND SECOND, [00:55:02] UH, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. I THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD, UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SUPERINTENDENT VE STEP UP WITH HER TEAM AND, UM, TAMMY WOULD LIKE, 'CAUSE THIS, THIS IS A HISTORICAL EVENT. WE'D LIKE TO, TO HAVE A PICTURE, UM, WITH YOU AND THE BOARD. TAMMY, ANYBODY ELSE FROM STAFF THAT YOU WANT? I THINK THAT EVERYONE ON THE TEAM THAT HELPED MAKE THIS HAPPEN ON BOARD. ARE WE GOING DOWN? GOOD. RIGHT THERE. THAT'S OKAY. I AIN'T GOING TO BANG YOU. THAT'S GOOD STUFF. ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE HAVE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENT AND [9. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS] WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS AND MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UM, FIRST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, TODAY WAS, UH, THE FACT THAT MAY 4TH THROUGH THE 10TH WAS PUBLIC SERVICE APPRECIATION WEEK. AND I KNOW YOU ALL PARTICIPATED IN, IN QUITE A BIT OF THAT. UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, LAST FRIDAY WAS 19 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WOW. AND SO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AT THE END OF THE APPRECIATION WEEK TO, TO DO A TALK. UM, I ENTITLED, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY, BUT IF I, IF I REFLECT BACK ON, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT PARTICULAR WEEK, UM, AND I LIKE TO SAY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S MORE THAN JUST A PROFESSION, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A PURPOSE AND WE GOTTA FIND OUR PURPOSE IN WHAT WE DO. UM, AND I'M BLESSED WITH THE FACT TO BE ABLE TO LEAD AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS PUBLIC SERVANTS IS AS GOOD AS WHAT WE HAVE IT HERE IN, IN THE COUNTY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO, TO BRING THAT UP TO START OFF THIS, THIS, THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. AND, AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THIS WEEK, SO MAY 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH IS EMS APPRECIATION WEEK. AND SO I, I, I WAS DRIVING HOME YESTERDAY AND I, I LOOKED OVER AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND IN BETWEEN THE, UH, EMS, I'M, IT'S EMS APPRECIATION WEEK IS HANGING THE BANNER BETWEEN THE STATE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES FLAG. SO I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND, AND LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING THAT THE NATIONAL THEME FOR THIS WEEK IS WE CARE PERIOD FOR EVERYONE. SO I HAD TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THOSE THAT DECIDE TO CHIEF KISSNER KNOWS PERSONALLY AS A PARAMEDIC TO CHOOSE THE EMS PROFESSION. SO, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT OF THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO SAY A LOT OF TIME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S THE FIRST LIGHT THAT SOMEONE SEES IN THE MOST DARKEST TIME. AND SO YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT THOSE THAT, THAT TAKE THAT CALL, WHETHER IT'S A, A CAR ACCIDENT OR WHETHER IT'S A HEART ATTACK. UM, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST THE MONDAY MORNING ANXIETY THAT SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. AND THEY NEED THAT PARAMEDIC TO COME BY AND IN A CALM FASHION, TAKE THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE OR OFFER THEM SOME TYPE OF SERVICE THAT THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE. AND WITH THAT BRINGS SUCH A GREAT DEAL OF, UM, THE SKILL THAT THEY BRING TO THE JOB GIVES PEOPLE HOPE. UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME, JUST THEIR PRESENCE BRINGS A SENSE OF CALMNESS TO SOME OF OUR CITIZENS. WE DON'T SEE THAT, WE DON'T GET TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET TO SEE IT NECESSARILY LEGISLATING THE COUNTY. I DON'T GET TO SEE IT, UM, AS ITS CHIEF EXECUTIVE, BUT WE HAVE A STAFF EVERY DAY THAT DECIDES THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THERE AND YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN, UM, I WANT YOU TO REFLECT BACK ON THE FACT THAT AT 507 SQUARE MILES, AND I KEEP TELLING CHIEF KISSNER THIS, HE'S PROBABLY JUST INGRAINED IN HIS BRAIN NOW BECAUSE COLONIAL HEIGHTS BEING EIGHT SQUARE MILES WHERE HE CAME FROM TO THE 507 SQUARE MILES, THAT'S DI WITTY. YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRAINING AND WE'RE BLESSED [01:00:01] THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE LIKE HIM LEADING US. BUT IT'S, IT'S THAT TYPE OF TRAINING THAT GIVES THAT CALMNESS AND THAT THAT DARK MOMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CALLED, KINDA A LITTLE BIT OF A PUN ON IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE EMS STAFF CARRY THE WEIGHT OF OTHERS, LIKE LITERALLY. UM, BUT THEY ALSO DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO I, I THINK ABOUT THE PARAMEDICS THAT I KNOW, THE EMS STAFF THAT I KNOW, THEY DON'T GET TO JUST GO HOME AND THEY, THEY REALLY, YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE STORIES THAT THEY HAVE, YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRAUMA THAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED. YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, I SAID IT IN MY, MY TALK LAST WEEK, SOMETIMES YOU CAN DO YOUR ABSOLUTE BEST AND IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AND WHEN THAT DAY HAPPENS, THOSE BURDENS COME HOME TO THE EMS STAFF. AND SOME OF US DON'T, DON'T EXPERIENCE THAT QUITE LIKE EMS. AND THERE'S THE SHARE OF VICTORIES TOO. AND SO I, AS, AS MUCH AS I HATE NECESSARILY SOMETIMES GETTING THOSE TEXTS FROM CHIEF KISSNER, WHETHER IT'S A FIRE OR EMS CALL, THERE ARE THE TIMES OF JOY TOO WHERE, WHERE WE'VE DONE THE JOB AND IT'S WORKED OUT ON, ON OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR BEHALF. UM, AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A DIVIDED WORLD TODAY, BUT MOST PEOPLE, AT LEAST DIMITY PEOPLE, I THINK RECOGNIZE THAT AS PEOPLE LIKE OUR EMS STAFF, THAT, THAT MAKE THE COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE. AND SO IF YOU SEE ONE THIS WEEK, PLEASE JUST TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THEM, UH, FOR WHAT THEY DO. AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S DONE WHEN PEOPLE DON'T GET TO SEE IT. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING IT NECESSARILY FOR THE, THE PAT ON THE BACK. UM, NOT MANY OF US IN PUBLIC SERVICE DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A PAT ON THE BACK. SO PLEASE, PLEASE PASS THAT ON. UM, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY LAST WEEK I WAS UNABLE TO GO TO THE CIVILIAN MILITARY COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAD A LOT OF OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, UH, LORI STEVENS, OUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE, UH, CASEY DOOLEY ON THE BOARD AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WAS ABLE TO GO TO A TUNNEL TO TOWERS EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN DENWOODY COUNTY. UM, I HAD REALLY NEVER HEARD OF THE ORGANIZATION BEFORE, AND SO I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THEM. I THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST TUNNEL, THE TOWER'S HOME IN THE COUNTY. UH, NOT THAT MANY EVEN IN VIRGINIA, BUT, UH, CHRISTIE AND, AND DANIEL NORD, UH, WHAT A TREMENDOUS FAMILY, UH, TUNNEL TO TOWERS WAS CREATED OUTSIDE OF NINE 11. AND SO THE FOUNDER'S BROTHER ACTUALLY RAN BACK INTO THE TOWERS, SAVED, CREDITED TO SAVING QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY SUCCUMBED TO THE BUILDINGS FALLING DOWN. THEY WANTED TO DO GOOD IN THE WORLD. SO THEY CREATED THIS ORGANIZATION, MR. NORD, UM, IN HIS PROFESSION, NOT ONLY AS A A, A US ARMY VETERAN, BUT HE ALSO WAS A, UM, POLICE OFFICER FOR CHESTERFIELD COUNTY. AND SO AS WE DROVE UP AND PROBABLY SAW 30 TO 50 UNIFORM, UH, CHESTERFIELD POLICE OFFICERS AND THEN OUR FOLKS TOO, YOU SEE HOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO, TO RECOGNIZE. AND I LOVED, I WATCHED THE INTERVIEW AFTERWARDS WITH MR. NORD THAT, UH, WAYNE KOVAL DID. AND HE SAID, UM, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A HANDOUT, IT'S A HAND UP. AND SO I HAD TO REFLECT BACK ON MY, MY FATHER, 'CAUSE HE USED TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT. AND WHY IS IT A HAND UP? AND, WELL, IT'S A HAND UP BECAUSE THOSE THAT DO THIS TYPE OF WORK ARE A LITTLE BIT STAND A LITTLE BIT TALLER. 'CAUSE THEY, THEY CHOSE THIS WHERE I JUST TALKED ABOUT ON THE EMS SIDE, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE HIM A HANDOUT, YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM A HAND UP. SO WHAT, WHAT HE DID, HE WAS, UM, CHASING THE VEHICLE ON A MOTORCYCLE. HIS MOTORCYCLE POLICE FELL OFF. UM, TREMENDOUS STORY. BUT, UM, NEARLY DIED SERIES OF, OF, OF SURGERIES. AND SO WHAT TUNNEL TO TOWERS HAVE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN HIS HOME AND COMPLETELY RETROFITTED THIS HOME, RENOVATED IT, UH, FOR SOMEBODY LIKE HIM WHO, UM, HAS LOST A LEG AND, UH, JUST MADE IT A SMART HOME. IT'S, UH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING WHAT THEY'VE DONE INSIDE. AND THAT WASN'T JUST ENOUGH. SO THEY DECIDED TO PAY OFF HIS MORTGAGE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO HE'S GOT IN A MORTGAGE FREE, FREE HOME. SO WHAT A, WHAT A TREMENDOUS STORY. UM, SO MOVING FROM THAT, WE'LL TALK BUDGET. SO WE, WE TALKED, I TALKED TO ANN A. LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY, AND WE WERE TRYING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF INVESTIGATORY WORK TO FIND OUT, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SOMEWHAT IN LIMBO, NOT ON THE COUNTY SIDE, BUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MAY HAVE RECEIVED AS IT, UH, RELATES TO THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE PARTS OF THE BUDGET. AND, UM, I THINK WHAT ANNE WAS COMMUNICATED BACK TODAY WAS THAT THE BUDGET DIDN'T CHANGE, UM, FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN MARCH BASED ON THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BUDGET. SO THAT'S, WE DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW WE HAVE SPECIFICS ON THAT, BUT I KNOW [01:05:01] SOME OF YOU ALL DR. MOORE SPECIFICALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DID THE SCHOOL SYSTEM END UP ON THAT, BUT, AND DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING TO THAT? NO, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT WAS THAT THEY HAD GIVEN US A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN THEIR BUDGET REQUEST LETTER THAT WE GOT BACK IN FEBRUARY. UM, THE ONE, THE SCENARIO THAT HAD US GIVING THEM THE HALF, THE 500,000, THAT'S THE ONE I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WE LANDED ON WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THE STATE. BUT, UM, CHRISTIE'S AT A CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, SO, UM, I WILL VERIFY THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED. OKAY, GOOD. AND ALEXA VETS IS STILL HERE. SO I WANTED TO TO SAY THIS TOO, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SAY IT BEFORE. UM, AFTER A A DISTINGUISHED CAREER, SHE HAS DECIDED TO RETIRE. AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW I WROTE YOU PERSONALLY, UM, BUT I DON'T MIND SAYING IT PUBLICLY. UM, AGAIN, THE, JUST THE SHORT TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE, YOU'VE MADE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT. AND FOR WHAT ALL OF US HOPE TO DO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF RETIREMENT, WE, WE WANNA REFLECT AND SAY, HEY, IS WHAT I DECIDED TO DO EVERY DAY? DID IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE. SO WHEN YOU GET COMPLETELY RETIRED AND WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK AND TAMMY'S GONNA ESCORT YOU DOWN THE TRAIL. 'CAUSE SHE, SHE'S GOT A WAY OF FINDING SNAKES ON THAT TRAIL, SO, OH MY GOODNESS. SHE NEEDS HELP WHEN YOU'RE THERE. SHE KNOWS HOW TO SHOUT. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LONG-WINDED, BUT I, I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT BRIEF. I WAS TALKING TO THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE TO LORI STEVENS EARLIER, AND I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN, AND AGAIN, JUST SOME OF THE PROPERTY SALES. SO IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, I SAID, LORI, JUST GIMME THE LAST 30 DAYS. WE HAD 15 SALES IN 30 DAYS, A PRETTY, PRETTY HEALTHY MARKET. UM, THE 14 OF THOSE 15 HAVE BEEN OVER THE NEW REASSESS PRICE. SO WHERE WE SET TODAY IS A SALES RATIO OF 85.8%. SO JUST, JUST IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S DROPPED TO THAT POINT. SO THERE'S, I WON'T READ ALL 15, BUT THEY'RE JUST SOME THAT JUST, JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THESE ARE, THESE ARE GOOD ARMS LENGTH TRANSACTIONS. WE HAD A, A HOUSE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ASSESSED AT 1 94. THE NEW REASSESSMENT WENT TO 3 0 8 AND IT SOLD AT THREE 30. WE HAD ONE THAT PREVIOUSLY WAS ASSESSED AT 1 53. THE NEW REASSESSMENT WAS 2 68 AND SOLD FOR 350,000 . I HAD TO GO BACK AND CHECK THIS ONE. WE HAD A, ANOTHER ONE IN BRENDA'S DISTRICT THAT PREVIOUSLY WAS 76,300. THE NEW ASSESSMENT TOOK IT TO 112 AND THEY SOLD IT FOR 2 67. WOW. UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS 171 NEW REASSESSED AT 2 44 AND SOLD AT 300. SO ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE SEEN ABOUT, OF THESE 15 SALES OVER $850,000 WORTH OF VALUE ABOVE THE REASSESSMENTS PRICES. SO IT JUST, IT JUST LEADS INTO THE CONVERSATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE BRINGING IT BACK PROBABLY INTO JUNE MEETING, TALKING ABOUT THE REASSESSMENT AND JUST WHERE, WHERE WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA LOOK AT DOING A MORE OF A TREND ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. UH, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT, DO IT AGAIN. UM, ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UH, MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY. MM-HMM . IS MONDAY. UM, WE, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THE MASONIC LODGE TO DO THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME LAST TWO YEARS. IT'S, IT'S RAINED OUT, THE WEATHER LOOKS TO BE BEAUTIFUL. 70 SOME DEGREES. THAT'S RIGHT. YEP. IT'S GONNA BE GORGEOUS. UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS ONLY A 30 MINUTE CEREMONY. SO IT, IT STARTS AT 10 O'CLOCK AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE ON THE LAWN. UM, WE GOT A REALLY GOOD SPEAKER COMING THIS YEAR FROM FORT GREG ADAMS. SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE IT, JUST WANTED TO, TO PASS THAT ALONG. ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO YOU, COLIN ROENICK MENTIONED TO ME AT PAMPLIN PARK THAT ON JUNE 14TH WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING THE CRY LIBERTY EVENT AT PAMELA HISTORICAL PARK. AND THIS IS THE, THE KICKOFF EVENT OF THE DIMWIT COUNTY VIRGINIA TWO 50 INITIATIVE. UH, SO THIS REALLY COMMEMORATES THE FIRST MILITIA MUSTER CALL, UH, FOR THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR THAT WOULD'VE TAKEN PLACE ON THAT DATE IN JUNE OF 1775. AND SO WE'RE DOING THAT AT, AT PAMPLIN PARK. IT'S ALSO, UM, THEY CELEBRATE THE US ARMY'S, UH, 250TH BIRTHDAY ON FLAG DAY THAT DAY. [01:10:01] UM, SO THERE'S, UH, INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT IT. WE'VE GOT A GROUP OF SPEAKERS THAT'S GONNA COME. AND I WAS, I WAS TOLD BY MR. ROENICK THAT ONE OF THOSE ESTEEMED SPEAKERS IS MR. CHAVIS, THAT HE'S GONNA BE TALKING THAT THAT MORNING MM-HMM . UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF MILITARY AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE VIRGINIA TWO 50, UH, CHERYL WILSON IS GONNA BE THERE. SO SHE'S, SHE'S CHOOSING TO COME ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. UM, OF ALL THE PLACES SHE COULD BE IN VIRGINIA FOR THAT. UH, WE HAVE A, A PATRICK HENRY ACTOR THAT'S GONNA BE ALSO SHARING THE LIBERTY, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIMME DEAF SPEECH. UM, SO IT SHOULD BE A DAY OF LIVING HISTORY AS WELL AS SOME LIVE MUSIC AND, AND SOME, UM, I GUESS GOOD EDUCATION THERE. WHAT'S, WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AT THAT VIRGINIA TWO 50? MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. [10. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] CHAVIS. WE'RE GONNA START WITH YOU REALLY, . WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AS I RIDE AROUND THROUGH DENWITTY COUNTY THESE DAYS, ALL I SEE IS RURAL BANG GOING ON. AND I THINK, AND MY WIFE AND I WERE TALKING TODAY, WHEN WE GET RURAL BAND INTO THE COUNTY, KEVIN TALKED ABOUT HOW HOUSE PRICES ARE WILL GO UP. OH YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE SEE A LOT OF NEW HOUSES BUILT. YOU WALKED DOWN, WROTE DOWN VONG ROAD. MM-HMM . THE WAY THEY'RE BUILDING UP AT VONG ROAD WOULD JUST BLOW YOUR MIND THAT THE BEAUTY OF EVERYTHING HAPPENING THERE, MR. DOOLEY'S PROBABLY SENDING THE BIG GATES AND, AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. UH, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. I'M GETTING PHONE CALLS, WHAT DO THESE FLAGS STAND FOR? MM-HMM . AND I SAY GOOD STUFF. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE, UH, WE ALL ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING. I MEAN, ON THIS SIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RIVER STREET'S DOING ON THAT SIDE, BUT I KNOW ROYAL BAND IS REALLY MOVING FAST. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. DOLEY. I'LL SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF. OUR EMS. UH, THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS HAVE BEEN ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL, AND NOW EMS AND PUBLIC SERVICE WEEK, UH, BEFORE THAT AND BEING BLESSED TO GO TO THE TUNNELS, THE TOWER EVENT AND HONORING THE NORDS. UH, DURING THE TALK, DAN LOST HIS LEG IN, IN THAT TRAGIC ACCIDENT. BUT, UH, A GENTLEMAN STOOD UP THAT WAS HIS, HIS BIKE PARTNER, AND HE SUFFERED GREATLY MENTALLY FROM THE ACCIDENT BECAUSE DAN CHOSE TO WRECK AND PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AS OPPOSED TO HIT HIS PARTNER AND MORE THAN LIKELY TAKE HIS LIFE. AND DURING THE TALK, HIS PARTNER GOT CHOKED UP. I MEAN, JUST VISIBLY UPSET, BEGAN TO CRY. AND FOR THOSE THAT PUT A BADGE ON EVERY DAY, AMEN. UM, TO SEE DAN GET UP WITH ONE LEG AND A PROSTHETIC AND HOLD HIS BROTHER UP, THAT BY APPEARANCE LOOKED UNSCATHED. THE SERVANTHOOD THAT IT TAKES TO PUT ON THAT BADGE AND TO GO TO, TO PLACES THAT, THAT FOLKS DON'T WANT TO GO, UM, THAT TO SEE THE THINGS THAT MOST DON'T SEE, UM, IT TAKES A SPECIAL KIND OF PERSON AND IT TAKES A BROTHERHOOD TO STAND UP BEHIND THEM AND HOLD 'EM UP IN THE TIME OF NEED WHEN THEY SUFFER FROM THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE EXPOSED TO. AND SO, MY HAT'S OFF TO THOSE THAT ANSWER THE CALL. UM, AND I'M THANKFUL GREATLY FOR 'EM. AMEN. UM, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT COMES FULL CIRCLE TO THE TWO 50, THOSE THAT LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, UM, IN THE FORMATION OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY. AND AS WE APPROACH ALL THESE TIMES WITH 4TH OF JULY COMING UP AND INDEPENDENCE DAY, AND, AND SO TO RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AND, AND JUST SO MUCH WITH MEMORIAL DAY AND, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT, UM, IT'S JUST A GOOD TIME FOR SELF-REFLECTION AND, AND TO SEE THAT THOSE WHO HAVE STOOD IN THE GAP FOR THOSE OF US TO ENJOY THE LIFE THAT WE DO NOW, UM, I I'M VERY THANKFUL. I PRAISE GOD FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT THAT ANSWER THE CALL. UM, THERE IS SOME WORK GOING ON ON THE WEST END SIDE OF, UH, OF DIMITY WITH RIVER STREET IS COMING INTO SOME AREAS. SO THAT'S GOOD TO SEE. UM, BUT THAT BRINGS FEAR TO, TO ANOTHER PART OF OUR POPULATION THAT DOESN'T WANT TO SEE GROWTH. AND SO KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STANDING IN THE GAP FOR YOU ALSO, BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR RURAL AND, UH, HERITAGE AND NATURE AS WELL AND, AND STAND, UH, FOR OUR AGRICULTURAL, UH, BACKGROUND AND, AND HISTORY. SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ARE GOING ON IN [01:15:01] THE, IN THE COUNTY, AND, AND WE'VE GOT TO, TO LOOK AT HOW TO BALANCE IT ALL. AND SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THAT'S GOOD. DR. BALL, UM, WELL, RIVER STREET HAS PUT THE BOX IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, . NOW I'M JUST WAITING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BRING THE LINE TO MY HOUSE. . OKAY. BUT, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS ADVANCEMENT GOING ON. I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL PHONE CALLS BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE, THEY CAN SEE THE, THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. UM, NOW HOW QUICKLY IT GETS THERE, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY. BUT AT LEAST THERE'S ADVANCEMENT GOING ON. UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE, WE AS A BOARD COMMUNITY COLLECTIVELY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, BREAK BREAD WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, A WEEK OR SO AGO. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY A, A PERSONAL THANK YOU TO ALVIN LANGLEY AMEN. UM, FOR HIS COMMITMENT, NUMBER ONE TO DINWITTY COUNTY. BUT NUMBER TWO, HELPING US WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE FOOD, UH, TO BE ABLE TO FEED OVER 200 PEOPLE, UH, OUR EMPLOYEES. IT'S OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR DAN WITTY COUNTY. AND, UM, IT'S A PLEASURE. I, I TAKE IT AS A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AMEN. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME FANTASTIC PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US. AND IT'S, YOU NEVER CAN LOSE WHEN YOU SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US. AMEN. UM, AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF DENWOODY COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMS AND THOSE THAT ARE IN PUBLIC SERVICE, UM, FOR THOSE AS US THAT WENT TO THE FALLEN OFFICER, UM, MEMORIAL DOWN AT, UM, THE HOPEWELL MOOSE LODGE, UM, WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THE PEOPLE THAT ANSWER THAT CALL ON A DAILY, DAILY BASIS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE FIRE, THE MS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, TAKE IT, PICK OUR STATE TROOPERS, UM, WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. UM, I THINK I'VE TRIED TO ATTEND EVERY MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, UM, THAT WILL BE THIS A WEEK FROM, WELL, THIS COMING MONDAY, UH, IS IT 10:00 AM CORRECT. 10 O'CLOCK AT THE OLD HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. UM, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, YOU WILL BE BLESSED IF YOU WILL GO. AMEN. UM, I'M, MY FATHER SERVED AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II, SERVED IN KOREA, TWO TOURS, UM, IN THE ARMY. AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PUT DOWN THEIR LIVES FOR THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE TODAY. AND TO BE ABLE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF TIME TO SAY THANK YOU AND TO THOSE THAT HAVE GIVEN THE ALTERNATE, UH, SACRIFICE, UM, GOES A LONG WAY. SO I HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE A GOOD CROWD AND, AND THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BEAUTIFUL ON MONDAY OF 76, I THINK IS THE LAST NUMBER I SAW. UM, BUT I WILL BE THERE WITH SUNGLASSES ON . OKAY. UM, COUPLE OF THINGS. UH, WE HAVE NEW GRADUATES FROM BRIGHT POINT, UM, COLLEGE. WE HAVE NEW GRADUATES FROM RICHARD BLAND COLLEGE, AND WE HAVE A GRADUATING CLASS IN ANOTHER 10 DAYS THAT WILL GRADUATE FROM DENWITTY HIGH SCHOOL, UM, COMING UP. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR GRADUATES, WHATEVER UNIVERSITY, WHATEVER SCHOOL YOU MAY HAVE GONE TO. UM, I WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS, UH, IN THE WORLD AS WE GO FORWARD, UM, FOR OUR GRADUATES. SO THANK YOU TO THE PARENTS THAT STAND BEHIND THOSE STUDENTS. UM, AND, AND LASTLY, THANK YOU TO EVERY TEACHER AT DENWOODY HIGH SCHOOL, DENWOODY MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND OUR FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR ADVANCEMENT TO THEIR EDUCATION. THANK YOU. AND TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND ALL OF THE, THE TEACHERS. THANK YOU FOR, FOR, UH, WHAT YOU DO AND GETTING US TO ANOTHER, UM, END OF A SCHOOL YEAR. THANK YOU, MS. PAUL. OKAY. UM, I, UM, SIT ON THE VIRGINIA, UM, CAREERS WORK HOPE HOPEWELL BRANCH. UM, AND I HAD, WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK AND, UM, THE YOUNG LADY THAT'S BEEN ON THE, UM, BOARD, SHE HAS BEEN DOING A EXCELLENT JOB. AND OF COURSE THE BOARD IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN BUSINESSES AND JOB SEEKERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GET JOBS. AND IT, UH, REPRESENT 14 BOARDS AND AROUND THIS AREA FROM EMPORIA ON BACK. AND, UM, SHE HAS, UH, ACQUIRED SEVERAL GRANTS AND, UH, IS DOING WELL WITH THE, UM, JOB SEEKERS AND BUSINESSES, AND OF COURSE, ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE PEOPLE TO JOIN THE BOARD. SO, UM, THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL. WE WERE, UM, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE, UM, NEWS. [01:20:01] AND OF COURSE IT WAS IN PITTSBURGH, BUT IT MOVED TO, UM, HOPEWELL. SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS. AND ALSO, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE BUSES ARE GONNA BE GOING BY TO DIFFERENT AREAS IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS TO, UM, DROP THEM OFF AT DIFFERENT SITES. SO THAT'S GOOD. AND, UM, OF COURSE WE HAD ONE OF THE, UM, MEMBERS THERE FROM PRINCE GEORGE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGOS. SO HE WAS REALLY HAPPY AND CLA HANDS AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE, THAT'S HUGE. UM, ABOUT, UH, PRINCE GEORGE, THAT'S THE LEGOS, UH, FACTORY. SO HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, I TOLD HIM WE HAVE THINGS COMING UP TOO, BUT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, . UM, SO, BUT, BUT, UM, THEY ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB THERE. AND, UH, OF COURSE, UM, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE, UM, KEEP PEOPLE IN MIND AND TALK TO PEOPLE. AND THAT, UM, KIND OF DIRECTS ME TO, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE AND HOW THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE THINGS HOME WITH YOUR FAMILY AND THINKING ABOUT THEM DURING THE COURSE OF, UM, SOMETIMES. AND, UM, IT'S A HARD JOB WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT ON A BADGE. AND I, I'M SURE OF THAT. AND, UM, I LOOK, OF COURSE, I LOOK AT A, I LIKE TV. I LIKE, AND I REALLY LIKE, UM, THE PUBLIC SERVICE, UM, SHOWS. AND IT TALKED ABOUT IT TALKED ABOUT A LEADER AND HE WAS, UM, INVOLVED IN THIS FIRE AND HE HAD HIS MAN THERE. AND, UM, SOMETHING HAPPENED, SOMETHING BROKE OUT. AND, UM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A, THEY ONLY HAD LIKE A, A CURE FOR LIKE MAYBE ONE PERSON AND THEY HAD ON THEIR MASK AND EVERYTHING. SO THE LEADER, WHAT HE DID, HE, HE SAVED HIS MEN, BUT HE TOOK THE FALL AND WHEN THEY WENT OUT, THE DOOR WAS CLOSED AND THEY SAID, ARE YOU COMING OUT? AND HE SAID, NO. HE SAID, BECAUSE I'M INFECTED. I'M, YOU KNOW, AND HE KNEW THEN THAT HE WAS NOT GONNA MAKE IT. BUT IT JUST GOES TO THE LEADERSHIP FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND THEY CONSIDER THEM, CONSIDER THEMSELVES FAMILY. AND THEY, AND HE DECIDED THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING, I'M GONNA SAVE MY PEOPLE AND GO ON. AND, UM, AND I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CALL SOMETIMES THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MAKE THE CALL FOR, FOR YOUR FOLKS. AND I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A STRONG PERSON THAT HAS TO DO THAT. VERY, VERY STRONG. ESPECIALLY IN THAT, IN THAT CAREER FIELD. SO WE ARE, UM, HAPPY AND BLESSED BY OUR PEOPLE IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND, UM, UM, AND JUST, UM, PRAY FOR THEM ALL THE TIME. AND WE TALK ABOUT BEING DIVIDED IN THIS COUNTRY. I SAW, UM, THE POPE FROM AMERICA, UH, YOU KNOW, I SAID, YOU KNOW THIS, HE'S FROM CHICAGO. AND, UM, I THINK POPE LEO, I THINK HE SAID, AND, UM, THE THINGS THAT HE, HE WAS SAYING, AND HE SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER, UM, NOT LISTEN TO CHILDREN. 'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE TO TELL YOU IF YOU LISTEN SOMETIMES. AND HIS BROTHER SAID THAT HE, AS A CHILD, HE SAID THAT HE WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE THE POPE. HE SAID, I'M ALWAYS GONNA AS A CHILD. SO, UM, OF COURSE IT CAME TRUE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT MAYBE THE LORD PUT THAT IN HIS, IN HIS MIND AS A CHILD. AND, UM, IT WAS TRUE, YOU KNOW? AND, UM, SO OF COURSE, UM, COURSE THAT'S A BIG THING. AND HE, HIS, HIS MESSAGE IS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, NOT TO BE DIVIDED. THAT'S HIS MESSAGE. AND WE ARE KIND OF LOSING THAT SOME SOMEWHAT SEPARATING AND BEING DIVIDED, BUT YOU ONLY DO WELL WHEN YOU WORK TOGETHER. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TRY TO GET BACK TO. UM, AND OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING GOD FIRST AND EVERYTHING WE DO BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DOORS THAT HE CAN OPEN, THE DOORS THAT HE CAN CLOSE ARE, ARE, ARE SOMETHING AND WE JUST DON'T SEE IT COMING. BUT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN FOR, UM, FOR A LOT OF US. BUT, UM, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IN DENWITTY, UM, AND THANKING ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO JUST KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE AND JUST, UH, MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AND, AND TRY TO CONTINUE TO DO POSITIVE THINGS AND DEAL WITH IT COUNTY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO LAST WEEK, UH, WHEN KEVIN AND, AND, UH, MR. DOOLEY WERE AT TUNNELS TO TOWERS, UM, [01:25:01] MS. COLLINS AND CHIEF KTA AND I WENT TO THE CIVILIAN MILITARY COUNCIL, UH, MEETING IN HOPEWELL NEWS LODGE. AND, UM, AND ACTUALLY GOT TO SIT AT TABLE NUMBER ONE WITH, UH, MAJOR GENERAL DOUGLAS. AND, UM, SO YEAH, I'M, I'M BETTER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT SHE IS. WE'LL SIT AT THE TABLE WITH ME. BUT ANYWAY, UM, AND, AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING. THAT'S, THAT'S A, A, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF, OF ALL THE LOCALITIES AROUND, UH, FORT GREG ADAMS AND THEN THEIR, UM, UH, UPPER STAFF. AND SO, UM, IT, IT TRULY IS A GOOD MEETING. AND I THINK WE GAIN A LOT FROM FORT GREG ADAMS BEING THERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THEIR LEADERSHIP, UM, ACTUALLY WANTING TO COME TO EVENTS. AND THEN WOULD HE, UH, SO IF, IF WE'VE GOT AN EVENT, AND I KNOW, UM, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE COMING ON MONDAY, RIGHT? UM, WHICH IS GOOD. SO, UM, IT, UM, IT, IT'S VERY, UM, VERY GOOD TO BE A PART OF THAT COUNCIL AND THEY, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE. UM, TWO WEEKENDS AGO I GOT TO GO TO PAMPLIN PARK AND BE PART OF THEIR, UH, CAR SHOW AND DO THE CHAIRMAN'S, UM, PICK FOR, FOR THE CAR SHOW. AND, UH, A BLUE, UH, 1970 ROADRUNNER WAS MY PICK. UM, IT WASN'T OVERALL WAS, BUT, UH, I REMEMBER MY CHILDHOOD, UM, ABOUT WANTING ONE, I REALLY WANTED A 69 DODGE CHALLENGE UP WITH A ROAD ONE RONALD WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TOO. SO, UM, ANYWAY, IT WAS A GOOD EVENT AND, UM, HAPPY I GOT, GOT TO GO TO IT. UM, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING COMING UP, UM, AND, AND I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, UM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I'VE GOT A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT THAT I CAN'T SHAKE. SO, UM, BUT, UM, BACK ON MARCH 1ST, YOU KNOW, WE SHARED THE STORY OF BRUCE OLIVER TUCKER, UM, WHO IN 1968, UM, DIED. AND, AND, UH, HE WAS THE FIRST HEART DONOR AT, UM, VCU, UH, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, UM, OR COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY. UM, AND IT WAS WITHOUT HIS CONSENT AND OR HIS FAMILY'S CONSENT. AND SO TO REC KIND OF RECTIFY THAT THEY'RE DOING SOME THINGS TO HONOR HIM. AND SO THEY'RE GONNA DO A ROADSIDE MARKER. UM, AND THE DATE OF THAT IS THE 30TH OF IT'S MAY 30TH. AND SO, UM, IT'S AT, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF FLAT FOOT AND RIGHT. 40. AND SO, UM, I KNOW, UM, KEVIN'S GONNA BE ABLE TO GO AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA ASK MS. OBAMA, WE HAVEN'T ASKED HER YET, BUT, UH, , MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT, IT, IT TRULY, UM, WILL BE A GOOD EVENT. AND THE PAVILION AT BCU THAT'S NAMED IN HIS HONOR, I, I, AT SOME POINT WHEN I GO HIM OVER THERE EVERY SO OFTEN, UM, I'M GONNA GET A PICTURE STANDING IN FRONT OF IT. I HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. UM, SO, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL THE, UH, 2025 GRADUATES, UM, FROM THE WATER SUPERVISORS AND ENTIRE WITH COMMUNITY. UH, YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG MILESTONE IN YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU GRADUATE, UM, HIGH SCHOOL. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET READY TO, TO START A NEW CHAPTER IN YOUR LIFE. AND, UM, NO MATTER WHAT, UM, WHAT YOUR CHOICES ARE, WHETHER IT'S COLLEGE, MILITARY, WORKFORCE, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, JUST REMEMBER DENWOODY IS ALWAYS YOUR HOME. AMEN. UM, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS COME HOME, SO AMEN. UM, EVEN IF YOU'RE IN THREE OAK. YEP. . AND, UH, AND THE LAST THING, UM, I WANTED TO JUST, AND IT'S NOT, UM, TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM ANYTHING I'VE SAID, IT'S JUST FOR, FOR IT TO BE FRESH IN YOUR MEMORY. UM, WE'RE KICKING OFF A TRASH COMMITTEE, UM, WEDNESDAY, JUNE THE FOURTH AT 7:00 PM AT, AT EAST SIDE ENHANCEMENT CENTER. AND I THINK, UM, I HOPE WE CAN GET PARTICIPATION BECAUSE TRASH IS TRULY [01:30:01] A PROBLEM. UM, IT IN ON THE BACK ROADS EVERYWHERE, REALLY. AND IT'S SUCH, I, I THROW ALL THE TRASH THAT I CREATE IN MY TRUCK, IN THE BACK BACKSEAT, JUST RIGHT BEHIND MY SEAT. AND EVERY TIME I FILL UP WITH GAS, I, I DUMP THE TRASH. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT TAKES 10 SECONDS, BUT WHILE OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T DO IT, I, I HAVE NO IDEA. UM, MY WIFE, SHE JUST THROWS IT EVERYWHERE IN THE CAR AND THEN WE CLEAN IT NIGHT ONCE A WEEK OR SO. UM, BUT, UH, BUT I HOPE FROM, FROM THIS WE'LL, WE'LL GET GOOD IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO FIGHT IT. UM, SCHOOL SYSTEM. UM, PARENTS ARE GOOD AT GUILT AND THEIR, I MEAN, KIDS ARE GOOD AT GETTING GUILT AND THEIR PARENTS INTO CHANGING THEIR LIFESTYLE SOMETIMES. SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND, UM, I JUST, UM, LIKE TO TELL EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE FOR THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND. UM, AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED. UM, TO GO INTO CLOSED [11. CLOSED SESSION] SESSION, THE BOARD WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE PERSONNEL APPOINTMENT, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, DENWOOD COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, DENWOOD COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE. BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUS BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY, OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE 2.2 DASH 3 7 83. DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE PLEASE. SECOND, MOVE. SECOND. WE ROLL. CALL PLEASE. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. DOOLEY? AYE. MR. LEE AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT. AND WE WILL BE, BE BACK WHILE LOTS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. SEVENTH . SIX OF ALL. WE NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. SECOND MOVE. SECOND ROLL. CALL DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS HERE. AYE. AYE. MS. E. BROWN BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING AYE. WHEREAS THIS BOARD CONVENED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE. PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, DENWOODY COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, DENWOODY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A FIVE. BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS UPDATE N 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A THREE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS NO MEMBER HAS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS A DEPARTURE FROM THE LAWFUL PURPOSE OF SUCH CLOSED MEETING OR OF THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION TO DISCUSSED NOW BE IT CERTIFIED, THAT ONLY THOSE MATTERS WERE IDENTIFIED. THE MOTION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING. I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT PLEASE. SO MOVED. SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF 30 MINUTE RECESS. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE SEVEN O'CLOCK, UM, BUSINESS MEETING OF THE DI BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ORDER AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET [12. A. 4 Does More] STARTED. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, TO START THINGS OFF AND IT'S, UH, FOUR DOES MORE. MS. HANNA BISHOP, EXTENSION AGENT FOUR H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. FOUR MORE THAN A HAMMER. THE PUPPY. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. WE ARE DIMITY FLORIDA'S MORE. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN DECEMBER, WE CAME TO YOU WITH A PROPOSITION TO CREATE A, A WALKING SHOW FOR OUR LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTER. THIS WILL PROVIDE MULTIPLE BENEFITS FOR THE COUNTY. IT [01:35:01] WOULD ALLOW CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK A DOG THEY'RE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING. IT WOULD ALSO IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND MOOD FOR BOTH PEOPLE AND ANIMALS. IT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO ALSO TEST DRIVE THE DOG A DOG IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING. IN DECEMBER, YOU GAVE US THE GO AHEAD TO BEGIN WORK ON THIS TRAIL. WE ARE BACK TONIGHT TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR PROGRESS SO FAR. WE HAVE SCOUTED OUT THE LOCATION FOR THE TRAIL AND SECURED HELP FOR THE INSTALLATION WITH HELP OF ANIMAL CONTROL AND SEVERAL OTHER DIMITY OFFICIALS. WE ARE WORKING ON MAKING SURE WE COVER ALL OF THE LEGAL AND LOGISTICAL DETAILS. OUR NEXT STEP TO COMPLETE THE TRAIL IS TO MARK THE AREA AND HAVE THE FULL DOSE OF WORK COMPLETED. THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY HAS AGREED TO COMPLETE THE DOZER WORK AS A DONATION TO THE COUNTY AND TRAINING FOR THEM. FOLLOWING THIS, WE WILL NEED TO CLEAR ANY REMAINING DEBRIS AND PLACE MARKERS TO QUICKLY SHOW THE PATH FROM THE ANIMAL SHELTER TO THE WOODS AND BACK. AND COULD I ASK ONE OF Y'ALL TO PULL THE MIC DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE YOU GOT IT. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. WE ENVISION THIS TRAIL BEING COMPLETED IN PHASES. PHASE ONE WILL BE A NATURAL SURFACE TRAIL WITH MARKERS SHOWING THE WAY WE WILL BE CREATING A PATH THAT IS WIDE ENOUGH TO BE CONVERTED TO AN A DA COMPLIANT PATH IN A LATER PHASE OF DESIRE. PHASE TWO WILL BE TO ADD SIGNAGE AND PARTNER WITH THE ANIMAL CONTROL TO HOST SHELTER DOG WALKING EVENTS. PHASE THREE WILL BE MAINTENANCE. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF PHASE TWO AND THREE, BUT ARE READY TO BEGIN PHASE ONE. NOW WE ESTIMATE, SORRY. WE ESTIMATE THAT PHASE ONE WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $1,000 TO COMPLETE. OUR CLUB WON THE FOUR H BOOTH CONTEST AT THE COUNTY FAIR. WITH THAT CASH PRIZE DONATIONS AND FUNDRAISING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CREATE THIS TRAIL AT ZERO COST TO THE COUNTY. IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS TRAIL A REALITY, WE NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT. WE HAVE CREATED AN INSTAGRAM PAGE TO SHOWCASE OUR PROGRESS. OUR INSTAGRAM IS FOUR DOES MORE DIMITY FOUR H THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US AS WE WORK ON THIS EXCITING PROJECT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NOPE. MR. CHAIRMAN, GREAT JOB. JUST, JUST TO COMMENT, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE, I GUESS ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO TO WITH HEATHER AND HANNAH, UH, CHIEF KISSINGER, ALVIN LANGLEY TO GO OUT TO THE, TO THE SITE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WALKED IT, WHICH I THINK THE TRAIL Y'ALL GONNA BUILD IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE ONE WE WERE WALKING ON, BUT IT WAS GREAT. SO YOU, YOU ALL HAD ME AT ZERO COST TO THE COUNTY, SO WHAT A WONDERFUL PROJECT. RIGHT? SO WE'RE WE JUST ONE WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB IN YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING OUT THERE. AND WE JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BETTER THAN, THAN THANK YOU'ALL FOR WHAT YOU'ALL WERE DOING. OKAY, THANK YOU. BUT WE APPRECIATE IT. LOOK FORWARD TO IT. WE'RE EXCITED. MR. CHAIR, UH, YOU DID THIS FOR HIM. HIS DOCTOR TOLD HIM HE NEEDED TO WALK. I NEED TO WALK SOME MORE. SEE. SO, SO YOU OPENING UP A PLACE FOR HIM TO HAVE A PLACE TO WALK. SO YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS. NOW I, I HAVE GOT A QUESTION. UM, AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN Y'ALL WERE HERE, TYNDALL WAS ACTUALLY HERE. HAVE, HAVE Y'ALL ACTUALLY INVOLVED THEM WITH ANY OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOOD BECAUSE I, I, AND I THINK AS THIS THING EVOLVES, I THINK THAT THAT COULD REALLY BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT THEY WERE HERE THAT NIGHT AND WITH THAT, UM, PARTICIPATION. SO YEAH. THANK Y'ALL AND YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE UM, Y'ALL DRIVING THIS THING AND UM, IT, IT'S YOUR PROJECT. SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. AND CHIEF KISSNER AND MR. LANGLEY HAD A CHANCE TO GO VISIT THE SUSSEX COUNTY SITE, SO THEY'VE GIVEN ME SOME, SOME COMMENTS BACK AND I WAS TALKING TO, TO HEATHER EARLIER ABOUT THOSE, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL GET THOSE BACK TO YOU. BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, THIS IS YOUR PROJECT. WE'RE JUST GONNA WORK IN TANDEM WITH YOU GUYS AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING IT TO COMPLETION. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YES. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. AARON HAS A [13.A. Virginia Department Of Transportation Secondary Six Year Plan] TOUGH JOB. HE ALWAYS HAS SOMEBODY IN FRONT OF HIM THAT, UH, THAT UPSTAGES HIM A LITTLE BIT. BUT, UH, THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA, UH, HAVE THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN. YES SIR. I CERTAINLY [01:40:01] WISH I COULD DO PROJECTS AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY. THAT'S RIGHT. ME TOO. IT CAN BE DONE. YEAH, WE, WE TAKE DONATIONS, BUY NEW CARS, BUY LOTS OF GAS. YEAH, WE DO TOO. THINGS LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS EVENING IS OUR SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN. UM, DO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. UM, LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL FUNDING SCENARIO FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS, UM, WE ARE RECEIVING ANNUALLY $59,015 AND OUR TFE FUNDING, UM, TOTALING $354,090 AT THE END OF THE SIX YEAR. OUR UNPAVED, UH, GRANT FUNDING IS GONNA BE $94,844 FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS UNTIL FY 30 WHEN WE DROP TO $82,115 FOR 30 AND 31 WITH A TOTAL OF $543,601, UH, AT THE END OF THE SIX YEARS IN UNPAVED ROAD MONEY TOTALING $897,691 OVERALL IN YOUR SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN. LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN, WE'LL START OFF WITH TRANQUILITY LANE. UH, THE PROJECT IS IN HERE. IT IS FULLY FUNDED. WE EXPECT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION, UH, HERE IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS OR SO. QUAKER ROAD REALIGNMENT IS A TFE FUNDED PROJECT. UH, WE HAVE NOT YET INITIATED AT THIS TIME. IT IS HOWEVER FULLY FUNDED. NEXT IN THE PLAN IS THE ROUTE 6 0 9 CHERRY HILL ROAD RURAL RUSTIC. UH, THIS PROJECT WAS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED, UM, DUE TO AN INCREASE IN THE COST ESTIMATE. UM, RATHER THAN TAKING UNPAVED MO UNPAVED ROAD MONEY OFF OF THIS YEAR'S PLAN, DID TAKE THAT TFE FUNDING FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR AND MOVE IT TO FULLY FUND THIS PROJECT. UH, SO WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT IS 52,000 OF THAT TFE FUNDING GOING TO CHERRY HILL ROAD IN FY 26 TO GET THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND. UM, AND WE DO ACTUALLY, I HAVE THAT PROJECT OPEN TO CONSTRUCTION CHARGES RIGHT NOW. THEY WENT ON, HAD TO LET US OPEN IT TO CHARGES, UM, WITH THIS BEING IN THE PLAN TO BE FULLY FUNDED IN 26. NEXT IN THE PLAN IS THE ROUTE 6 64 REESE ROAD, ROYAL RUSTIC PROJECT. UH, THAT PROJECT WILL BE FULLY FUNDED IN FYI 26 AS WELL. SO JULY ONE. THAT PROJECT WILL GET EVERYTHING IT NEEDS. WE'LL WORK ON OPENING THAT PROJECT TO CHARGES AND HOPEFULLY BE GETTING CONSTRUCTION ON THAT LATER ON THIS SEASON. NEXT IN THE PLAN IS OUR ROUTE 7 0 9 SHIPPINGS ROAD ROYAL RUSTIC. UH, THIS SEGMENT GOES FROM ROUTE 40 DOWN, ROUTE 6 0 9, UM, CUT BANK ROAD. WE'VE GOT $47,000, $47,000 IN CARRYOVER FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. UM, WE ARE PUTTING $95,000 ON THAT PROJECT EVERY YEAR UNTIL FY 28 WHEN IT IS FULLY FUNDED AND WILL LIKELY GO TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, SOMETIME IN FISCAL YEAR 30. AFTER THAT, WE MOVE ON TO FUNDING ROUTE 7 35 GOOSE POND ROAD. THAT'S ANOTHER ROLE RUSTIC PROJECT. UM, RELATIVELY SHORT ONE WE'LL PICK UP FUNDING WITH THAT PROJECT IN FY 29 AT $95,000, UM, A YEAR. AND THEN $57,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 30 AND HAVE THAT FULLY FUNDED. AND FISCAL YEAR 30 MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION FISCAL YEAR 31. MORE THAN LIKELY AFTER THAT, UH, WE GET TO START FUNDING, UH, ROUTE 6 78 SPAIN DRIVE. UM, THIS IS FROM 6 0 5 ELLINGTON ROAD TO 6 0 6 OAK GROVE ROAD. UM, RELATIVELY SHORT PROJECT AS WELL AS RIGHT AT A MILE LONG. UM, WE'LL BE MOVING $26,000 ON THAT FISCAL YEAR 30 AND 80 2031. THAT IS JUST BARELY ENOUGH TO NOT GET THE PROJECT FUNDED. SO WE'LL FUND FINISH FUNDING THAT PROJECT IN 32 IN THE YEAR OUTSIDE OF THIS PLAN. UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN, BUT MARMORA DRIVE IS AFTER SPAIN. UM, I DID APPROPRIATE A SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDING ON IT JUST WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE BETWEEN SPAIN DRIVE AND MARMORA THIS YEAR. UM, IT IS STILL IN THE PLAN. UM, AFTER THAT, UH, WE HAVE OUR FUTURE SECONDARY LINE ITEM, OUR BALANCE INJURY ACCOUNT. UM, AFTER FISCAL YEAR 26, THE TFE FUNDS WILL BE GOING TO THIS TO START ACCUMULATING, UM, TO START FUNDING A FUTURE SECONDARY PROJECT. WE DO HAVE $73,000 IN CARRYOVER, UH, RIGHT NOW THAT'LL GO TO THAT AS WELL. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? UHM I JUST GOT ONE QUICK QUESTION. YES MA'AM. I WANT, I JUST WANT TO ASK, I KNOW THAT, UM, HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDS GOING IN DIFFERENT, UH, POTS AND EVERYTHING, UH, IN ORDER, I GUESS FOR A PAPER STREET, UM, ROAD TO BE INCLUDED, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO? SO FOR THE PAPER STREET FOR VDOT, YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO THE SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE. UM, SIMILAR TO, [01:45:01] TO WHAT WE DID THIS AFTERNOON WITH CHE POINT WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH FULL VDOT REVIEW. UM, AND DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO PAY BOND FOR IT. UM, WHAT'S LEFT OVER FROM CONSTRUCTION. UM, IT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. WAS IT CONSTRUCTION PROPERLY? IT IS A, IS IT A ROAD THAT WE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO TAKE INTO OUR MAINTENANCE? SO SO YOU HAVE TO, TO BASICALLY LOOK AT AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IN. YES MA'AM. IF YOU DIRT ROAD AND ALL THAT. YES MA'AM. IF IT, IF IT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE SECONDARY SYSTEM, WE'D HAVE TO FIRST TAKE IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND THEN PUT IT IN THE SECONDARY 60 PLAN TO HARD SURFACE IT. OKAY? MM-HMM. ALRIGHT. THAT, YEAH, THAT'S THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, BUT AARON, THERE'S A, THERE'S A VEHICLE TRIP PER DAY CALCULATION FOR RURAL RUSTIC, RIGHT? YES SIR. IT IS. 50 VEHICLES DOES, SO A AT PAPER STREET IN A SUBDIVISION FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM . WOULD, WOULD, DEPENDING ON THE SUBDIVISION, IT IT WOULD BE MAYBE HARD PRESSED TO GET THE 50 COUNT. YES SIR. IN SOME CASES NOW OUT OUTSIDE OF, OF FUNDING IT AN UNPAID ROAD THROUGH RURAL RUSTIC, THE TFE FUNDING CAN BE USED IF THE COUNTY WISHES TOO HARD SURFACE AND, UH, A GRAVEL ROAD, GIVEN ITS TFE MONEY, THE 50 VPD IS NOT REQUIRED. THAT'S AT AT BOARD'S DISCRETION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. IS THERE ANYONE, UM, SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE STEPHANIE ESOP. OKAY. HI MR. MASSING. I'M MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY APOLOGIES FOR SOUNDING SICK. UM, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SPAN DRIVE PAVING. I LIVE ON THAT DIRT ROAD AND MY BROTHER LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE'VE LIVED WITH THAT GRAVEL ROAD FOR MANY YEARS TO THE POINT THAT IT'S CREATING HEALTH ISSUES WITH, UM, COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEMS, ASTHMA, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, WE DO ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER THE FUNDING IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. UM, WE DO HAVE CARS THAT SPEED THROUGH THERE, UM, AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. THERE ARE TURNS THAT THEY ARE TAKING TURNS AND HITTING TREES AND MAILBOXES. UM, WE'VE HAD FIRE TRUCKS COME TO THE HOME AND GET STUCK COMING UP INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET TO THE HOUSE. SO WE'VE HAD TO MEET THEM AT THE END OF THE ROAD. SO IT'S JUST CREATING A LOT OF ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO, TO HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD. OUR CHILDREN WOULD LIKE TO WALK AND RIDE BIKES AND WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, I KNOW IN THE PAST IT'S KIND OF BEEN ONE OF THOSE ROADS THAT KIND OF GETS BUMPED, BUT JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE ARE FAMILIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE LACK OF NOT HAVING IT PAVED. AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN PUSHED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LINE BECAUSE THEY SAY WE DON'T RUN INTERNET AND WE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PAVED ROAD, IT'S NOT AN IDENTIFIED ROAD. SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HARD TOP SURFACE WILL HELP US KIND OF MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? UM, I HAVE A RANDY CRAVER SIGNED UP. HE DID NOT SPECIFY WHICH HEARING HE WANTED TO SPEAK TOWARDS. NO, I'M SORRY. I, I I WAS FOR ONE OF THE, UH, CASES. OKAY. NOT, NOT THAT. ALRIGHT. YEAH. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES. I THOUGHT YOU HAD SIGN UP AND LIST THROUGH SPEAK AT ALL. THAT'S WHY. THAT'S GOOD. ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? AARON, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT TO STEPHANIE'S QUESTION? YES, YES. AND COMMENT THERE ABOUT AND TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. WE'VE SPOKEN SEVERAL TIMES INDEPENDENTLY, SO AS, AS, AS IT SITS IN THE PRIORITY FOR THE PLAN. UM, IT IS GONNA BE FUNDED, I BELIEVE IN, LET'S SEE, FISCAL YEAR 31. SO, UM, PROBABLY FISCAL YEAR 30. SO 20 31, 20 32, WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. MM-HMM . AS IT SAYS RIGHT NOW, NO. YEAH. IF, IF THE BOARD WISHES THEY MAY CHANGE PRIORITY OF THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, UM, AS IT SITS, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE FUNDED IN 31 AND IT COULD GET REPRIORITIZED NEXT TO YOU. YEP. YES SIR. YES. RIGHT. AT LEAST WE GOT IT ON THE SIX YEAR PLAN. ON THE PLAN. SO I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND TRYING TO GET IT SINCE THE ROAD HAD TWO OR THREE HOUSES STEPS. YEAH. YES. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS. WELL, HAR AARON'S, HE'S TRYING HARD, [01:50:01] SO. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. IT JUST, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. IT HAS. AND LIKE HE SAID, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR MAYBE WE CAN BUMP IT UP. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDS ARE, SO, WELL YEAH, BEING AN OUT YEAR, THE PLAN THINGS MAY CHANGE WITH THE FUNDING. UM, WE'VE GOT PROJECTS, BIG PROJECTS IN THE, IN THE PLAN, UM, AT 7 0 9 SHIPPINGS ROAD IS, IS A GOOD ONE. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT PROJECT. UM, JUST DEPENDING ON, ON FLUCTUATIONS WITH OUR MATERIAL PRICING AND PRODUCTIVITY, WHATEVER WE, WE, AND WE ESTIMATE CONSERVATIVELY ON OUR PROJECTS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO GO INTO NEGATIVE ON OUR PROJECTS. UM, SO TYPICALLY IF WE'VE GOT SOME CARRY OVER FROM PROJECTS TO PROJECTS THAT KIND OF TRICKLES DOWN IN THE PLAN. SO MM-HMM . MM-HMM . AARON, HOW WAS THE TRAFFIC COUNT OF SPAIN? I BELIEVE IT JUST JUST BREAKS THE THRESHOLD, UH, AT 50 51. YEAH. I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A NEW, COUPLE NEW HOMES CONSTRUCTED IN THAT, THAT THRESHOLD. YES, SIR. DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAXIMIZING LIKE THE EE MONEY AND OUT OUTLINE YEARS? WOULD THERE BE A POTENTIAL TO MAYBE FORWARD THAT PROJECT IF WE USE TFE? YES, SIR. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO TAKE A LOOK AT TOO FOR NEXT YEAR. I MEAN, IT MAY BE EXPEDITED IN THE PLAN. YES, SIR. WE, WE COULD DO THAT. UM, IF IT NEXT YEAR, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE I SHORT OF CHANGING PRIORITIES, UM, ON THE UNPAVED MONEY, WE COULD FUND IT, YOU KNOW, SAY START PUTTING SOME OF THAT TFE MONEY ON IT NEXT YEAR, BUILD IT ABOUT HALFWAY FUNDED, AND THEN WHEN THE UNPAVED ROAD MONEY HITS IT, WE'LL BE READY TO BE READY TO GO. YEAH. THAT MIGHT SHAVE OFF SOME TIME. IT WOULD MM-HMM . LET'S JUST, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A NOTE TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. TO TRY TO EXPEDITE IT. YES. AND THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY OF, OF GETTING IT DONE FASTER. AND ULTIMATELY IF PRIORITY CHANGES, IT COULD BE COMPLETELY TFE FUNDED. I THINK THE ESTIMATE'S SOMEWHERE AROUND $150,000 ONLY GETTING 95,000 A YEAR IN TFE. SO IN TWO YEARS WE COULD FUND IT WITH TFE. OKAY. MR. JUDGE, JUST, JUST TO COMMENT, REMEMBER, FIRE EMS AND SCHOOL BUS, THE NEEDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR ROAD MM-HMM . THAT'S, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE EQUATION. SO IF YOU'VE GOT YOUNGER CHILDREN, JUST WE NEED TO KEEP THAT AS PART OF IT. AND I DON'T UP TOO MUCH TIME, BUT I DO WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW WHEN THE BUSES ARE COMING DOWN THE ROAD, THEY ARE HAVING TO BACK IN TO A CSX CUT THROUGH. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO IT GOES DOWN AROUND THE TURN, IT BACKS IN AND PULLS BACK AROUND. SO IT'S NOT EVEN, IT'S NOT EVEN A CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR A BUS TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH, LIKE YOU SAID, MR. MOORE. MM-HMM . DR. MOORE. IT, IT, OUR EMS, IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST A NIGHTMARE. IT IS. IS THE BUS TURNING AROUND BE BECAUSE YOU, IT'S RIGHT AT THE COUNTY LINE OR IT NO, IT'S TURNING AROUND BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE WHERE IT TO TURN. OKAY. IF THEY GO TO THE END WHERE IT'S ELLINGTON, THEN YOU'RE CUTTING INTO PRINCE GEORGE. SO TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT LOOP BACK INTO DEN, THEY'RE BACKING INTO THE CSX, THEY'RE LIKE A THREE POINT AND THEY'RE COMING. RIGHT. MM-HMM . YEAH. JUST NEED TO KEEP THAT IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. YEAH. FOR THE SAKE OF, OF TRANSPORTATION AND, AND PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON AS WELL. THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE VDOT IS BUILT KIND OF BUS TURNAROUNDS AT THE END OF, OF SIMILAR ROADS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT MOVEMENT. I WAS JUST GONNA CLARIFY ONE THING S SAID THE FIRE TRUCK GET STUCK IN OUR DRIVEWAY. IT ACTUALLY GOT STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TRYING TO GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY. BUT THAT COULD PRESENT A PROBLEM IF WE WERE HAVING A WORSE EMERGENCY THEN TRYING TO GET IN. OF COURSE THE ROOF BEEN GRADED SINCE THEN, WHICH MAY HAVE IMPROVED. FORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ISSUE WHERE WE HAD TO GET FIRE TRUCKS BACK IN THERE. FIRE TRUCKS. FORTUNATELY WE ALSO, UH, LINED OUR DRIVEWAY TO HELP USE THAT THING. YEAH. GETTING IN AND OUT AS WELL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM AARON? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE BULLET'S PLEDGE? MS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT YOU DO HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT. ONE IS TO APPROVE THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, THE AND AS WELL AS THE FUNDING YEAR. THE OTHER RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY A RURAL RUSTIC RESOLUTION FOR SPAIN DRIVE. RIGHT. SO YOU MAY WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION FOR BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO YOU MR. FRENCH? I BELIEVE SPAIN DRIVE WOULD'VE TO PROCEED THE OVERALL SIX YEAR PLAN BECAUSE SPAIN IS IN THE SIX YEAR PLAN. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A RURAL RUSTIC RESOLUTION FOR IT. YEAH. BUT MOTION. SO MR. CHAIRMAN FOR YEAH, FOR CLARITY THE FIRST MOTION AND YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. THE RESOLUTION FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, SIX YEAR PLAN FOR DIMITY COUNTY SECONDARY ROADS IMPROVEMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 [01:55:01] THROUGH 2031 AND SECONDARY ROADS CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 26 FOR DIMITY COUNTY. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MR. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER AYE. MR. LEE AYE. HALL VOTING? AYE. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THE SECOND RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION IS FOR RURAL RUSTIC ROAD PROJECT SPAIN DRIVE, AND YOU CAN SIMPLY HAVE A RESOLUTION, UM, AND A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED. MAKE THE MOTION, WE APPROVE IT. I DO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. T HONOR. THANK YOU MS. DARREN, YOUR THANK YOU. YOUR THANK YOU. GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. WE ARE, UM, GOING TO BE [13.B. Amendments To Dinwiddie County Code Section 6-18. Permit Fees--Generally] AMENDMENTS TO THE DENWOODY COUNTY CODE SECTION SIX DASH 18 PERMIT FEES. UH, GENERALLY, UM, MR. PARKINSON, UH, BUILD AND RESPECT, THANK YOU BOARD FOR LETTING US COME HERE TO, UH, BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. UH, AS FAR AS THE 2026 BUDGET PROCESS, IT WAS PROPOSED THAT THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT WOULD RAISE OUR FEES. IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE'VE DONE IT. UH, THE, THE BASIC INCREASE IS, IS THE BASE FEE FROM 75 TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS. AND IT WAS, AND IT WAS STATE. THE STATE LEVY WOULD BE 2%, WHICH HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE STATE MAKES A MANDATE THROUGH 2% OF AB PERMIT. UH, AND HERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS. THE FEES PROPOSALS ARE BEING MODIFIED. UH, ABOVE GROUND POLES. WE HAVE A 50 AND IN GROUND POLES WE HAVE A 50 PLUS THE BASE FEE OF A HUNDRED REASON FOR THAT ABOVE GROUND POOL, YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING. IT'S MORE ELECTRICAL THAN POOL. MM-HMM . AN INGROUND POOL. YOU GET FOOTINGS, BONDING, ELECTRICAL, SO MUCH MORE INVOLVED. UH, AND SIGNS WERE GOING, USED TO HAVE SPLIT UP. THEY WERE GOING WITH A, UH, THERE WAS 50 PERMIT FEE AND LARGER SIGNS THAN A HUNDRED FEE. NOW ALL SIGNS HAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FEE. SIGNS ARE MAYBE A FOOTING AT THE MOST. SOMETIMES THEY'RE OWN BUILDINGS. IT'S NOT, NOT A LOT OF INSPECTIONS. UH, DEMOLITION, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WOULD BE A HUNDRED INCREASE FROM $75 AND THE FEE WOULD BE WAIVED FOR AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. IF WE SEE A DILAPIDATED BUILDING, WE DON'T CHARGE A FEE FOR THEM TO TEAR IT DOWN, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO, UH, PERMITS FOR CHIMNEYS, SHINGLES, ROOF SHINGLES, CEDAR SHAKES INCREASED FROM 75 TO A HUNDRED. UH, THAT'S MOSTLY FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, REROOF. RESIDENTIAL RE ROOFS DON'T REQUIRE PERMIT. UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT. UH, IT WOULD, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR AND PERMITS THAT, THAT WERE, THAT WERE APPROVED, IT WAS ABOUT 1,250 PERMITS. MM-HMM . AND WITH THIS INCREASE, IT GIVE US ABOUT 31,000 TO, TO ADD IT TO OUR BUDGET TO OFFSET COST. SO, AND IT'S BEEN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE HAD A INCREASE IN FEES, SO MM-HMM . OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? UHUH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU JERRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. I'LL ASK, UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. UH, WHAT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE, MR. CHAIRMAN? MAKE A MOTION, UH, BE IT ORDAINED THAT THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION SIX DASH 18 OF THE DENWOOD COUNTY CODE BE ADOPTED AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALRIGHT, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE [13.C. Rezoning Case, P-25-4] GOING TO KEEP MOVING RIGHT ALONG AND WE'LL REZONING CASE P DASH 25 DASH FOUR LOOKS LIKE MR. BASSETT IS MAKING THE FIRST MOVE HERE. SO, MR. BASSETT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. MR. MASSING, HOW YOU, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE FOR US THIS EVENING? UH, FOR REZONING, P DASH 25 DASH FOUR, UH, THE APPLICANT IS SONYA HENSHAW. SHE'S HERE THIS EVENING TO REPRESENT THE APPLICATION. UH, AGAIN, THE REQUESTED REZONING IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL R ONE TO RESIDENTIAL R RU, UH, [02:00:01] ZONING CLASSIFICATION. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM OUR SLIDE, UH, THE MAIN, UH, PROPERTY MAINLY, UH, FRONTS ON NOTTAWAY AVENUE. IT DOES HAVE FRONTAGE, UM, WARWICK STREET, UM, BUT, UH, THE EXISTING HOMES ANYWAY ARE ORIENTATED ON THE NOT AWAY AVENUE. UM, NEXT SLIDE, UH, JUST SHOWS THE OVERALL LOCATION, UH, PAST REZONINGS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, APPROVED EXCEPT FOR, UH, ONE REZONING THAT WAS NOT APPROVED. UM, GENERAL LOCATION OF ALL OF THOSE REZONINGS. AND THEN OF COURSE, A HIGHLIGHT IN BLUE. THE P DASH 25 DASH FOUR IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, UH, THIS EVENING FOR REZONING. OKAY. UM, WANTED TO INCLUDE, UH, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF, UM, THE BOARD. UH, WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, SLIDES, ORIENTATING, UM, EVERYONE TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, THIS IS LOOKING FROM WARWICK, UH, INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE IS LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY FROM, UM, NOT AWAY NUMBER ONES DOWN HERE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE LOTS, UH, REQUESTED FOR REZONING ARE ALL VACANT AGAIN, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AS, AS YOU ALL ARE DEFINITELY AWARE, UM, MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL. UM, LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, ALL OF THIS GENERAL AREA IS WITHIN WHAT WE CALL THE TOWN CENTER AREA. AND IT, ACCORDING TO THE PLAN EXPECTED TO COM ACCOMMODATE FUTURE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, ALSO JUST LOOKING AT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THE PURPOSE STATEMENT FOR THE RU ZONING DISTRICT STATES THAT RESIDENTIAL URBAN ZONE, THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS SMALLER LOT SIZES AND SETBACKS. THEN THE COUNTY'S OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS GIVING AREAS ZONED ARE RU LOT SIZES AND SETBACKS. UM, I'M SORRY, GIVING AREAS ZONED ARE RU A MORE URBAN FEEL. THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO REFLECT THE URBAN NATURE OF SUCH NEIGHBORHOODS AS CHARACTERIZED BY DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, SITUATED ON SMALL LOTS WITH NARROW YARDS AND MODEST SETBACKS. THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS ARE INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT AND EFFICIENT USE OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND THEIR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WHILE ENSURING THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE RU ZONING DISTRICT AND, UH, STAFF ALSO FEELS LIKE THE, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, DOES CONFORM WITH THE TOWN CENTER AREA GUIDELINES WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, ALSO WANTED TO NOTE, AS WE DID, UH, UH, PREVIOUSLY WITH THE BOARD AND PREVIOUSLY, UH, DISCUSS CASES, UM, WITH THE PROPERTY BEING LOCATED IN THE EXISTING WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVING ACCESS TO THE DEWITTE COUNTY WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, THIS GENERAL AREA MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. UM, AS DISCUSSED AGAIN PREVIOUSLY WITH OTHER CASES, UH, THE WATER AUTHORITY HAS INDICATED THAT THERE'S, UH, PLENTY OF, UH, WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY WITHIN THE AREA. AND ACTUALLY, UM, THEY'VE INDICATED, UH, THAT THIS IS A AREA, UH, WELL SUITED FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REALLY DID NOT HAVE ANY, UM, ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE DISCUSSED AS PART OF THEIR REVIEW. UM, DID NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE, UH, PROPOSED REZONING. UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST, UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN SURROUNDING LAND USES. AND, UM, ALSO TO NOTE THAT THE, THE RU ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WAS CREATED TO ACCOMMODATE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING LOTS WITHIN THE URBAN AREA, INCLUDING THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, ALSO, UH, THE R RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION CONFORMS, UH, TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. YES. UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE APPLICANT, UH, DID, UM, SHARE, UM, ELEVATIONS, [02:05:01] UH, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND NOTED, UM, THAT, UH, THESE WERE THE, SHE HAD TWO DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS THAT SHE WAS PLANNING ON, UM, PUTTING ON THE PROPERTY. AND, UM, THIS, UH, THESE ELEVATIONS, JUST TO NOTE, UM, SHE NOTED DID DO INCLUDE A GARAGE AS PART OF, OF THE, UH, PROPOSED HOMES FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UH, AFTER DISCUSSION, UH, WITH STAFF AND THE, UH, APPLICANT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND IT UNANIMOUSLY TO, UH, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF RES OWNER REQUEST, UH, TO THE BOARD. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. UM, UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO HOUSES NOW. THE PROPERTY, IS THIS ONE HOUSE OR HOW MANY, UM, FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, THEY HAVE FOUR LOTS. UH, THERE, SO IT'S OUR, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THAT THEY WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING TWO SINGLE FAMILY, TWO HOUSES, HOMES ON THE PROPERTY. UM, UH, AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE UH, OF COURSE WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH THE, UM, UM, THE HOUSES AND THE SQUARE FOOT. UM, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE 5,000 SQUARE SQUARE FEET EVEN WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT. UM, IF, UM, WE WANT TO GO BIGGER, HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS MORE THAN 5,000 FEET? YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE, UM, YEAH, THE SIZE, SIZE, THE AREA MINIMUM LOT AREA MM-HMM . ALLOWED IN THE RE DISTRICT, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO INCREASE, INCREASE THAT MINIMUM LOT SIZE. UM, AGAIN, THE REASONING BEHIND THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET WAS THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMEBODY TO DEVELOP IF THEY OWN TWO LOTS MM-HMM . UH, VACANT LOTS WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THOSE. THAT WAS THE, UM, REASONING FOR THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM, UM, AT THE TIME THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED. BUT, BUT YEAH. BUT IF THEY OWN TWO LOTS AND INCREASE, THEY STILL COULD JUST DO ONE BECAUSE THEY OWN TWO LOTS. IS THAT CORRECT OR NO? IF WE, UH, IF WE WERE REQUIRED, UH, A HIGHER, UM, MINIMUM, UM, LOT AREA SAY 7,500 SQUARE FEET MM-HMM . THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THREE LOTS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY AND, AND BUILD WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA. OKAY. AND, UM, I'M LOOKING AT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK I WAS READING FROM THE PLANET, THEY SAID, THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, PARKING, UM, ON, UM, MAYBE ON THE STREET. I WANT, WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M DIDN'T READ IT WRONG BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET, YOU HAVE TO PARK IN YOUR YARD. UM, THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT THEY DO PROVIDE PARKING ON SITE, ON THE PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO THERE ARE, IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE, IN THE HOME ON SITE ONE TIME. OKAY. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS TO ASK ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CLOSENESS OF IT. THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I'M MENTIONING THIS ABOUT, UM, BEING CLOSE WITH THE HOUSES AND EVERYTHING, UM, AND UM, JUST A VARIETY OF THINGS. PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UM, INDIVI INDIVIDUALS SAYING, YOU KNOW, BEING CLOSE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THAT'S WITH ANYTHING, NOT GETTING ALONG WITH THE PERSON NEXT DOOR, YOU KINDA STUCK THERE AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. RIGHT. UM, UM, AND THEY ALSO MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE FIRE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP THEY ASKED ME ABOUT. AND SO JUST, UM, MAKING SURE I'M PUTTING THAT IN THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT SOME PEOPLE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY WAS THINKING ABOUT OR HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT. UM, OKAY. MARK, WITH THE ZONING THAT'S ON IT NOW, UM, COULD WITH THE FOUR LOTS, COULD THEY BUILD ONE HOUSE ON IT? NO. NO. [02:10:01] HOW MANY LOTS WOULD THEY NEED TO BUILD WITH THE ZONING THAT'S ON IT NOW? UH, WELL THE, THERE'S TWO ISSUES WITH THAT. UH, THEY CAN'T MEET THE MINIMUM, UM, LOT AREA THAT'S ALLOWED THE, UM, UH, REQUIREMENT. BUT THE, THE MAIN ISSUE ARE THE BUILDING SETBACKS MM-HMM . THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UM, YOU JUST, RIGHT, SO THAT'S BASICALLY JUST NON-CON YEAH, NO, THE LOT, THE LOT BASED ON THE SETBACKS ALONE, THE LOTS ARE NOT BUILDABLE WITHOUT RECEIVING A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. AND, UM, TYPICALLY UNDER, UM, STATE CODE AND COUNTY CODE FOR THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS IN ORDER TO GRANT A VARIANCE, UM, THE HARDSHIP FOR A PROPERTY EITHER HAS TO BE A PHYSICAL HARDSHIP, UM, RELATED TO THE PROPERTY AND IT CAN'T BE, UM, A VARIANCE CAN'T BE LIKE UNIVERSAL THROUGH THE, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN OTHER WORDS, IF IF EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE SAME ISSUE, THEN TYPICALLY YOU CAN'T, YOU SHOULDN'T BE GRANTING VARIANCE VARIANCES KIND OF ON A UNIVERSAL BASIS THROUGH THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE HARDSHIP SHOULD BE UNIQUE TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY. THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT'S ASKING FOR THAT. AND IN THIS GENERAL AREA, UM, WHAT WE KIND OF CALL THE WEST PETERSBURG AREA, EVERYBODY SHARES THAT SAME HARDSHIP THAT'S ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL, NO ONE CAN MEET THE SETBACKS. SETBACKS. SO THAT'S WHY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AS WELL AS STAFF AND THE BOARD AT THE TIME, BACK WHEN, UM, THE R RU DISTRICT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE, UM, TRY TO CURE THIS ISSUE, UM, OF NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING ABLE TO BE MEET THE BUILDING SETBACKS, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET, UM, IF YOU ONLY OWN TWO OR THREE LOTS, NOT BEING ABLE TO BEAT THE MEET THE MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIRED IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS 20,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'S WHEN THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSED TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO THE RDU U DISTRICT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO, UM, NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS EVERY TIME THEY WANTED TO TRY TO. AND THEN STAFF REALLY TECHNICALLY, UM, COULD NOT, UM, WRITE ITS FAVORABLE STAFF REPORT BECAUSE THE, THE VARIANCES ASKED FOR WERE NOT UNIQUE TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHARED THAT, THAT SAME HARDSHIP AND THERE WAS NO REAL PHYSICAL HARDSHIP EITHER ON THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. UM, OKAY. IN ORDER TO, TO GRANT A VARIANCE. YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORY BEHIND THE, THE R RU DISTRICT AS WELL AS, UM, THE LOTS, YOU KNOW, BEING NON-CONFORMING, NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET THE, THAT MINIMUM REQUIRED 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE THAT'S REQUIRED IN THE RU DISTRICT ALONG WITH THE BUILDING SETBACKS IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MARK. OKAY, YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING. EVENING. UM, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, I DO HAVE A PROPOSED HOUSE LOCATION, EVERYTHING THERE. I WILL SAY THAT UM, THERE IS ALREADY A WATER AND SEWER TAP FEE THAT WAS PAID, WHICH MAKES ME BELIEVE ESSENTIALLY THAT A HOUSE WAS ALREADY THERE. AND SO THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OF THE LOT WAS TO HAVE THE HOUSE THERE. UM, SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR. I KNOW THIS ISN'T EXACTLY ABOUT MY HOUSE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE RU ZONING. I AM NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH IT AS MR. BASSETT OR PROBABLY ANY OF YOU GUYS. I AM, HOWEVER NATIVE OF THE COUNTY. THIS IS VERY PARTICULAR ZONING TO THIS AREA. THAT LITTLE SMALL STRIP OF WEST PETERSBURG, THE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT PRIMARILY WERE THAT SIZE. SO IT'S KEEPING WITHIN THE FORM THAT WAS ALREADY THERE. UM, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THESE SMALLER LOTS THAT ARE VERY FEW OF THEM IN DENWOODY THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR WELL AND SEPTIC AND TO BE ABLE TO GET REASONABLY PRICING HOUSING IN THERE. I PLAN ON KEEPING THIS AS A RENTAL PROPERTY AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP PRICES DOWN, ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE EITHER WITH SIZE OR SPACE. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING IT HERE. SO ONE OF THE FEW AREAS, I THINK IT DOESN'T UNDO [02:15:01] HARDSHIP AS WELL. IF YOU REMOVE OUR RU, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ONLY FOR ONE SMALL LITTLE AREA THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE OWNED AND GIVEN THESE LOTS AWAY, UM, SOME HAVE GIVEN 'EM TO THE CHURCH AND THIS CHURCH SOLD THEM. SOME HAVE MANY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD THEM FOR SEVERAL GENERATIONS, YOU'RE DOING AN UNDUE BURDEN, IT'LL ESSENTIALLY BE UNSELLABLE. AND SO IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING GOOD TO DO. IN ADDITION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA OPEN UP FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GRANTED SO MANY RU DESIGNATIONS AND SOMEONE IS GONNA GO, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER. SO YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THIS. AND THEN NOT TO DENY IT, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PRESIDENTS AS WELL. THE ONLY THING I CAN PROMISE TO YOU IS THAT I'LL HAVE THE TWO HOUSES THAT I HAVE THERE. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT UP TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, TRY TO KEEP COSTS DOWN FOR IT. I WILL BE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS GARAGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 'CAUSE I DO CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CARS AND EVERYTHING PILING UP. AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE GROWTH HAS BEEN GOOD. LIKE I SAID, I'M NATIVE TO THE COUNTY. WHEN I WAS YOUNG, YOU, I WASN'T ALLOWED TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM NOW, YOU KNOW, I AM AN ADULT, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOT IT LOOKS BETTER THAN IT DID. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUILD, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY. LAST, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, HEATED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES. WHAT IS YOUR ANTICIPATION OF IT BEING APPROXIMATELY 1400 SQUARE FEET? THEY ARE NOT SMALL AND THEY ARE ONE STORY TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, PEOPLE WITH ANY MOBILITY ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY I DID NOT GO TO STORY LIKE MANY OF THEM THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, YEAH. OH YEAH. UM, AND YES, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, UH, PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, THEY DID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOLD THEM LAND OR SOMETHING HAPPENED AND UM, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. THAT'S WHY EVEN WHEN THESE, UM, REQUESTS DO COME IN BEFORE US AND, UM, SOME, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE THAT WERE NOT APPROVED AND, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND, UM, THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY COULD BUILD. I THINK SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO GO STRAIGHT UP MM-HMM . AND, UM, WHICH WOULD LOOK JUST ODD, BUT YOU HAVE TWO HOUSES ON THE SIDE AND EVERYTHING. SO WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. THEY WERE NOT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOTAGE TO GO OUT. THEY HAD, THEY WERE, THEY WERE PLANNING ON GOING STRAIGHT UP AND IT WAS GONNA LOOK HORRIBLE RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S WHY, UM, WHEN UH, PEOPLE DO COME BEFORE US, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY, UM, INDIVIDUAL, UM, CASE TO DECIDE HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. UM, AND I KNOW YOU SAID GO GOOD FOR THE GOOSE AND GANDER, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE BECAUSE UM, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE AND EVERYONE. UM, NOW WE HAVE, WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE COME AND, AND DISPLAY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO. UM, BEFORE IT WAS LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BUILD, UM, HOUSES AND, UM, NOT SHOWING ANYTHING AND YOU WANT SOME, AND THE COMMUNITY DOES WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LOOK NICE AND, AND YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN. THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, NOT GONNA GO HOW FAR BACK, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED. UM, WE DO HAVE A A, A CHURCH IN THE AREA THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A HUNDRED PLUS YEARS. UH, MATTER OF FACT WE JUST CELEBRATED THAT AND, UM, WITH PEOPLE THAT HAS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, THEY TAKE PRIDE IN THAT. UM, IT'S A LOT OF HISTORY AND DAVISBURG THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT. UM, IT IS A LOT OF HISTORY AND IT'S A LOT OF GOOD HISTORY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WHEN PEOPLE DO COME, WE JUST HAVE TO QUESTION AND MAKE SURE THEIR MOTIVES ARE ARE GOOD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN COME AND BUILD SOMETHING. BUT, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I HAD TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS AND UM, AND BRING THEIR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS BEFORE THE BOARD SO THEY CAN SEE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY JOB TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S WHY, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOOSE AND GANDER, WE'RE GONNA SEE WHO DOES WHAT AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. YES MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND. AND JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THE ENVELOPE BEFORE I EVEN APPROACH THE BOARD, THE ENVELOPE FOR THE SIZING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M IN RIGHT STANDARD WITH THE RU SHOULD CONTINUE FORWARD IS ALREADY THERE. MM-HMM . AND I DO NOT PLAN TO VARY FAR OFF FROM WHAT HAS ESSENTIALLY BEEN THE MOCKUP THAT YOU RECEIVED THERE. SO THE TWO HIGHS THAT YOU SHOWED, ARE THEY THE TWO, TWO HIGHS THAT YOU'RE BUILDING ON SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT? OR HOW IS, IF IT'S NOT THAT EXACT ONE, MAYBE THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE A POST OR SOMETHING, IT'LL BE 99% LOOKING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW THERE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BUILD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. ALRIGHT. WE, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE MIGHT GET YOU TO COME BACK UP AND SPEAK IF WE NEED TO. YES SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP, [02:20:01] MR. CHAIRMAN? WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. UM, AND I'LL ASK THIS QUESTION. DOES ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? I'LL GIVE YOU THAT, THAT OPTION? YES, I WOULD. OKAY. FROM THE, UM, CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT PEOPLE WATCHING, UM, THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. HI YOLANDA SMITH. I AM A RESIDENT OF WEST PETERSBURG. UM, BORN AND RAISED OUT THERE, STILL HAVE FAMILY PROPERTY OUT THERE. UM, TALKING ABOUT THE VARIANCES, WHEN THEY INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, IT WAS NOT EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ABOUT HARDSHIP AND WHAT OTHER AVENUES. IT WAS ONE SPECIFIC, UH, DIRECTION AND THE WEST PETERSBURG COMMUNITY OBJECTED TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AT THAT TIME. I WISH THEY WOULD COME BACK AND REPRESENT ALL THAT, UM, HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS THE HOUSING AND ALL IN COMMUNITY WEST PETERSBURG MANY YEARS AGO WAS SELF-SUFFICIENT FOR ITSELF. UM, RECREATION STORES, MANY THINGS THAT WAS ACTUALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT AS, UH, FOR THAT COMMUNITY SERVE TO SURVIVE. UM, PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT NOW SURE IS SMALLER, BUT BACK THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW THAT WAS WITHIN THE REGULATIONS. NOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN EXPANSIONS, WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS BETWEEN THE HOUSES THAT'S BEING PUT UP NOW FOR ONE HOUSE HERE AND ONE HOUSE HERE? NOT THE DIMENSION THAT YOU CAN REACH YOUR ARM OUT THE ONE AND TOUCH SOMEBODY AWAY OR SHAKE EACH OTHER HAND. WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS BETWEEN THE HOUSES NOW? WHAT, UM, I HEAR HIM SAYING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BUILD AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TWO LOTS, BUT A HOME OF CERTAIN MAGNITUDE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THREE LOTS IF YOU GONNA PUT GARAGES BECAUSE OF THE DIMENSIONS THAT THE HOUSES ARE NOW, AND I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY THAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS LOOKING AT, IT'S PART OF OUR PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET. UM, WE HAD A STORE THERE, WE HAD THE BALL DIAMOND THERE, THAT'S THE SMITH'S PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT WE ARE STILL TRYING TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE TO REPAIR IT. SO I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS NOW IN BETWEEN THE HOMES? THAT WAS A HOUSE THERE. SHE SAID THE WARD AND ALL, IT WAS A HOUSE ON THAT CORNER. IT WAS HOME THERE, IT WAS TORN DOWN FOR REASONS, BUT IT WAS A HOME THERE. SO THAT'S WHY THE RUNNING WATER AND ALL, UM, IS ALREADY IN PLACE. JOHN CRAWLEY, WHEN WE WERE DOING WELL WATER, THEY IMPLEMENTED THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THE QUESTION. AND I WANT HER TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS RESIDENT, THERE WAS A RESIDENT, UM, HOME IN THAT AREA. MM-HMM . SO THERE'S REASON WHY THAT STUFF IS THERE. GOTCHA. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MARK, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND, AND, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, YEAH. RELATED TO THE BUILDING SETBACKS IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, THE, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED THE BUILDING SETBACKS ARE, IT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD GO, UH, THE CLOSEST IT COULD GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE. EACH HOME WOULD BE 15 FEET. AND UNDER THE RU ZONING DISTRICT IT'S FIVE FEET. SO, UM, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD HAVE HOMES THAT ARE 10 FEET APART UNDER THE R RU ZONING DISTRICT AND UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, THE CLOSEST THE HOMES COULD BE TOGETHER WOULD BE 30 FEET BETWEEN TWO HOMES. UM, WE DID LOOK, UM, BECAUSE YOU'LL NOTICE IN OUR, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE DO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, UM, IF IT'S IN CONFORMITY THAT THERE ARE, UM, A COUPLE OTHER INSTANCES ON NODAWAY AVENUE WITHIN THE SAME BLOCK, UM, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO HOUSES THAT ARE DEFINITELY AT LEAST WITHIN 10 FEET OF EACH OTHER, PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF, UH, NODAWAY. AND THEN ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, THERE'S ANOTHER COUPLE HOUSES THAT APPEAR TO BE APPROXIMATELY 17 FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER ON THEIR COMMON PROPERTY LINE. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHY IN OUR STAFF REPORT, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, THE REQUESTED ZONING CLA CLASSIFICATION BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN, SURROUNDING LAND USES, THAT'S [02:25:01] TYPICALLY, UM, IN THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE, UH, REFERRING TO, THAT THERE'S OTHER HOMES IN THEIR EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE BUILT ON TWO LOTS AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMMON PROPERTY LINE AND ARE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY CLOSE TOGETHER. UM, LIKE NEW HOMES WOULD BE UNDER THE RU ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MARK. YES. UM, I THINK MARK ANSWERED THE QUESTION. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO TO NOT SAY ANYTHING. OKAY. . ALRIGHT. COMMISSION, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU GOT ON YOUR MIND? JUST, JUST TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE CASES THAT HAVE COME TO US AND WHAT'S BEEN SHOWN TO US THAT CAN AND COULD BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY, I THINK THIS IS THE BEST QUALITY THAT I'VE SEEN OF THE CASES SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD DEALING WITH WEST PETERSBURG AND THE LOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO IT. SECONDLY, OF COURSE, THIS IS A CORNER LOT, SO YOU'RE ONLY AFFECTING TWO LANDOWNERS INSTEAD OF THREE LANDOWNERS. UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND THE, I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SEE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT 25,000 6 0 7 AND 25, 6 0 2, LOOK AT WHERE THOSE HOME, THE EXISTING HOMES ARE, THE PROXIMITY, THEY'RE NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE LINES, THEY'RE FURTHER AWAY FROM EACH OTHER. SO TO ME, IF THERE'S, IF THERE AN IDEAL SITUATION TO BUILD SOMETHING, THIS IS PROBABLY GIVING THOSE TWO LANDOWNERS THE MOST SPACE AVAILABLE, UH, IN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROCESS. UM, SO THIS TO ME, OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT THE PRODUCT THAT CAN AND COULD BE BUILT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST OPTION THAT WE'VE SEEN. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT. OKAY. JAMES, ANYBODY, MS. BONO? OH, UH, NO, I, UM, YET LOOKING AT THAT, UM, AS MARK SAID, IT LOOKS IS BIGGER AND, AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE AND, UM, ON THE LOT. I MEAN IT'S, UM, IT'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. AS I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH, UH, CASE, UM, DIFFERENTLY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND, AND, UM, AND HOW IT LOOKS. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAID THE, UM, THE GARAGE AND AND WHATNOT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SOMEBODY CAN PARK THEIR CAR IN AND NOT, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE SIDE ANYWHERE. THAT'S, I THINK THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE, WITH THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A PLUS FOR IT. AND, UM, AND AS YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO, UH, BE THERE AND, AND MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY AND ALL THAT, I THINK THAT'S GOOD 'CAUSE OF, OF COURSE WE ARE, UM, VIDEOTAPED AND EVERYTHING, SO IT'S, UM, SO IT CAN COME BACK . SO, BUT ANYWAY, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, MR. CHAIR? I MAKE THE MOTION BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 6 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT REZONING CASE P DASH 25 DASH FOUR AS PRESENTED, BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL [13.D. Rezoning Request P-25-5] RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO REZONING CASE P DASH 25 DASH FOUR. UM, LEMME CHANGE SEVEN, FIVE INSTEAD OF A FOUR. WE GOT A FIVE. YEAH. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. YEP. UH, THE APPLICANT'S HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL. UH, MR. ALVAREZ TO REPRESENT THE APPLICATION. UH, THIS APPLICATION IS TO RETONE, UH, THE SUBJECT, UH, FOUR LOTS AT, UH, THE REALLY FRONT ON DEM WITTY AVENUE. AND, UM, THEY ALSO HAVE, UM, FRONTAGE ON POTOMAC STREET. UM, BUT AGAIN, THE HOMES WOULD BE ORIENTATED TO DIM WITTY AVENUE, UH, WITH THOSE FOUR LOTS. UH, REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAIN FROM RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE TO RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU, UH, THE LOTS WOULD BE SERVED BY, UH, PUBLIC, PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER AS WELL. [02:30:03] JUST WANTED TO A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES. UM, THIS IS LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY AGAIN FROM DIMITY AVENUE AND, UM, POTOMAC, UH, RUNS DOWN, I GUESS YOU'D SAY THE, UH, NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE HOME SHOWN THERE IS NO LONGER THERE, IT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING FURTHER DOWN ON DIM WITTY AVENUE. UM, LOOKING BACK AGAIN NORTHEAST, UH, TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. JUST WANTED TO NOTE, UM, THAT LOOKING HERE, UH, INTO THE PROPERTY, UH, BETWEEN THE HOME THAT YOU SEE, THE, THE NEW HOME ON THE RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY, THERE IS AN EXIST. THERE'S ANOTHER LOT, UM, THAT RUNS BETWEEN THAT HOME AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT DOES NOT OWN. SO THERE WOULD BE, UM, A VACANT LOT IN BETWEEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, FOUR LOTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING AND THAT HOME THAT YOU, THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE. UM, ALSO TO NOTE, UH, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT THESE, UH, ELEVATIONS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THE HOME ON THE, UH, SUBJECT LOTS, AGAIN, IT'S FOUR LOTS. UH, IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD TWO HOMES ON THE FOUR LOTS, UH, TWO LOTS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMBINED INTO A SINGLE LOT. AND THEN ANOTHER, THE OTHER TWO LOTS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMBINED INTO A SINGLE LOT TO BUILD, UM, TWO HOMES ON EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, TWO LOT, UH, PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THIS EVENING BASED ON THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE, UM, SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES. AND OF COURSE MEETS THE, UH, PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL URBAN ZONING CLASSIFICATION. ALSO, UH, BELIEVE IT CONFORMS WITH THE TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, THE USES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR THIS AREA IN THE PLAN. UH, WHEN IT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE, UH, SUBJECT REZONING, UM, BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S UH, APPLICATION. AND THEN AGAIN, UH, THEY ALSO, UM, WERE FAVORABLE OF THE, UH, RENDERING OF THE ELEVATION THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT SUBMITTED AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE RELATED TO THE STAFF REPORT. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT DENWITTY AND CAN YOU, UM, GO BACK TO THE PICTURE AGAIN? DEWIT AND POTOMAC. UM, AND YOU SAID THAT THE HOUSE IS NO LONGER THERE, RIGHT? YES, THAT IS. YES. THAT HOME'S, THE OTHER HOUSE THAT HOME'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT'S THE VACANT LOT. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THAT IS. THAT TREE TOO, RIGHT? MM-HMM . YEAH. 'CAUSE IT'S, UM MM-HMM . BECAUSE AT THAT TIME IT WAS JUST ONLY ONE HOUSE THERE, RIGHT? UH, MARK ONE, IT WAS ONE HOUSE THERE THAT'S NOT THERE. IT WAS ONE, JUST ONE HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY. BUT YOU SAID IT'S NO LONGER HERE, RIGHT? THIS HOUSE, RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. BUT IT WAS ONLY ONE HOUSE AT THAT TIME? NOT TWO AT THE TIME. NOT TWO, YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO THIS PICTURE IS DATED MAY OF 2024. SO WITHIN THE LAST YEAR THE HOME HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN? YES. YES. I THINK I SAW, UM, UH, IS WHEN I PASSED BY. I THINK IT'S A HUGE TREE THAT'S THERE NOW THAT, UM, IS SITTING UP. UM, I MEAN IT WAS, IT IS HUGE. THE ROOTS OF THIS TREE IS REALLY BIG ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, THE HOUSE IS, THE HOUSE IS NOT THERE. UM, BECAUSE WHEN I, I RODE BY TO LOOK, BUT THIS, THIS TREE WAS CUT DOWN AND, UH, IT WAS UP. UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S FOR TWO, TWO LOTS, IS THAT CORRECT? TWO HOUSES, YES. I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING IT'S TOO HALF. IT'S TOO HALF. YES, IT COULD BE MM-HMM . INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF ONE THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING WITH THE PROPERTY? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? NOT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MARK. YES, YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING. HI. ABOUT THE ONLY THING I COULD ADD MORE TO IT THAN STAFF HAD ALREADY SAID [02:35:01] WAS, UH, KINDA LIKE THE LAST LADY. WE, WE, WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE GARAGES, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE OFF STREET PARKING SO THAT THERE DOESN'T ADD TO ANY MORE CONGESTION IN THE STREET. AND AS FAR AS THE TREE YOU MENTIONED, YEAH. THAT'S GONNA BE OF COURSE REMOVED AND, YOU KNOW, TAKEN OUTTA THE WAY. THAT'S JUST, UH, WE, WE TOOK IT DOWN, I THINK WHEN THEY WERE GETTING READY TO START DOING SOME WORK THERE AND THEY JUST HADN'T GOTTEN BACK TO CLEAN IT UP. YEAH, I I, YEAH, I JUST HAPPEN TO SEE. YEAH. SEE IT AS A HUGE, YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS HUGE, UH, THE ROOTS AND EVERYTHING. RIGHT. BUT YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. OKAY. BUT, BUT YOU DID YOU, YOU SAID NO GARAGE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO GARAGE, BUT THERE WILL BE OFF STREET PARKING. THERE'LL BE DRIVEWAYS ON, IN, IN FRONT OF EACH HOUSE? YES. SO IT WON'T ADD TO ANY MORE OFF THE ROAD? YES MA'AM. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT WON'T BE ANYTHING ON THE ROAD. OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND THE CONCEPT THAT YOU HAD BOTH HOUSES WILL BE THE SAME? YES. OKAY. AND THOSE HOUSES END UP BEING RIGHT AROUND 14, LIKE 1385 OR SOMETHING. SO RIGHT AT 1400 SQUARE FOOT, THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE, MR. CHAIR, JUST ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS ROCK CONCRETE OR PAVED GRAVEL. RIGHT? I I OKAY, ONE SECOND. ARE YOU GONNA PAVE THEM LATER? YEAH, HE'S GONNA PAVE THEM ALSO. OKAY. INITIALLY IT'S GONNA BE GRAVEL WHILE HE IS WORKING AND THEN AT THE END HE'LL PAVE THEM. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS A LOT OF AREA THERE SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE SO CLOSE. YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY, IT'S A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES SIR. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE SIGNED UP MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. I'LL EXTEND THE OFFER IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THIS TIME. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I MAKE THE MOTION BE BE IT RESOLVED THAT ORDER FOR ASSURANCE OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 88 22 86 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THIS RESOLUTION IS IN ESTIMATED TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT A REZONING P DASH 25 DASH FIVE AS PRESENT TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER AYE. MR. LEE AYE. ALL VOTING AYE I'D TO THANK THE APPLICANT. ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT [13.E. Rezoning Request, P-25-7] ALONG. UM, RE REZONING REQUEST P DASH 25 DASH SEVEN YES. THIS RE PRESENTING REQUEST, UH, THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING IS CLAYTON HOLMES OF CHESTER AND THEY'RE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MS. TONY STEVENS IS HERE, UH, TO REPRESENT THE APPLICATION. THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE TO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO. OF COURSE, THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF VON ROAD, UM, APPROXIMATELY 1700 FEET SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF VON ROAD AND FLANK ROAD. UH, JUST WANTED TO NOTE, AS WE, UH, REMINDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA TO INCLUDE PROPERTY ALONG VON ROAD AND SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD. WERE PART OF A MASS REZONING OF PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE IN JULY OF 1965. UH, DESPITE THE REZONING MORE THAN 50 YEARS LATER, A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE AREA CONTINUED TO HAVE FARMING IN TIMBER OPERATIONS. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WITH THIS, WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THE PROPERTY TO THE REAR, UH, TO THE NORTHWEST AND THE PROPERTY ACROSS VAUGHN ROAD, UM, THE RYER FAMILY, UH, FARMS THAT PROPERTY. UM, AND MS. FRANCIS HARRISON, UH, OWNS THE PROPERTY, UH, JUST SOUTH OF THE RYDER PROPERTY. SOME OF THAT'S BEING FARMED AS WELL. AND HOUSES, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, AGAIN, MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY, UH, IN THE AREA ARE UH, ALSO ON LARGE LOTS. THE RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES AND USES IN THIS AREA ARE MORE CHARACTERISTIC OF AGRICULTURAL GENERAL. A TWO ZONING, UH, WHICH REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF THREE ACRES. UH, TO NOTE THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS, UH, [02:40:01] MADE A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT, UH, TO INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY FROM. IT WAS APPROXIMATELY, UM, TWO AND THREE QUARTERS ACRES. UM, THEY ADDED PROPERTY TO IT TO THE REAR, UM, FAMILY. THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE REAR, UM, THAT LARGE ACREAGE PROPERTY, UH, IS WITHIN THE FAMILY. UM, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, PERFORM THAT LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AND ADD, UH, GET THE THREE ACRE LOT MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. THE ADJOINING VACANT PROPERTY IS ALSO, UH, WITHIN THE FAMILY AS WELL. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, PREVIOUS REZONINGS, UH, WITHIN THE SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD, VON ROAD AREA IN THE PAST. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THOSE, BUT WE DID WANT TO NOTE THOSE IN THE STAFF REPORT. UM, SO THERE HAS BEEN OTHER PROPERTY, UH, WITHIN THIS R ONE AREA THAT HAS BEEN, UH, REZONED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. UM, OVER THE YEARS. UH, REZONING THE PROPERTY AGAIN FROM R ONE TO THE A TWO ZONING. UH, WHEN WE TALKED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ABOUT THE PROPOSED REZONING, UH, THERE WERE NO ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP RELATED TO THE REZONING. UM, EVERYBODY, UH, SEEMED TO BE, UM, HAVE NO OBJECTIONS, UH, TO THE REZONING REQUEST. STAFF. IS REC RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST THIS EVENING, GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION, A TO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES ALSO THE PROPOSED USE CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED IN THE PLANNED GROWTH AREA AND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS GENERAL AREA. I ALSO DID WANT TO NOTE ALSO, OOPS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW. I'M SORRY. UH, THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE HOME THAT'S BEING, UH, PROPOSED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, IT IS A MANUFACTURED HOME, UM, BUT WE ALSO FEEL LIKE IT WOULD FIT IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE OTHER HOMES, UH, WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA OF THIS PROPERTY. AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, AT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER DISCUSSION, UM, DID, DID HAVE, UH, FAVORABLE, UH, VOTE OVERALL. UM, DID WANT TO NOTE THAT MR. LANGLEY, UH, COMMISSIONER LANGLEY, UH, DID HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT, UM, THAT LIVESTOCK, IF IT IS REZONED TO A TWO, UM, COULD BE HOUSED ON POTENTIALLY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO AT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, PROPOSED, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT THAT THERE WOULD BE A DEED RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW LIVESTOCK. UM, SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND, UH, WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS GONE A STEP FURTHER THAN THAT AND HAS RECOMMENDED, UH, PROFFERS, UH, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND THE PROFFER, UH, FORM HAS BEEN APPROVED, UH, BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS THE FORM, BUT THEY'RE, UH, PROFFERING A CONDITION. UH, ONE CONDITION THAT, AND I'LL READ THAT CONDITION, LIVESTOCK SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CATTLE, CHICKENS, DUCKS, HORSES, PIGS, SHEEP AND GOATS. UM, SO THEY HAVE PROFFERED, UM, TO NOT ALLOW LIVESTOCK ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS WELL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? PAUL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? COUPLE OF PICTURES. COME ON. THAT ONE. THAT ONE. THAT ONE. ALRIGHT, I SEE THE, THE WHITE LINE. CAN YOU USE THE CURSOR AND PUT WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING? IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. KEISHA'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THAT 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T USE THE POINTER ON THE, THE MONITORS, THE TV SCREEN, YOU GOT IT RIGHT THERE. THERE'S A 35 87 A YES. MM-HMM . APPROXIMATELY. YES. SO JUST RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, MIDDLE OF THAT. THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING OF COURSE THAT THE APPLICANT COULD DISCUSS THAT FURTHER, UH, WITH YOU ALL. THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. YES. OKAY. IT WOULD, YEAH. I COULDN'T REALLY TELL WHEN I WENT OUT THERE AND, AND LOOKED AND YEAH, IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY FROM VON ROAD. YEAH. NOT TO MENTION [02:45:01] EVERYBODY FLYING THROUGH THE YEAH. . SO SPEEDING. I TO BE IN, IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S WAY. SO JUST TO NOTE, THERE IS A MINIMUM, UH, FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT. IT HAS TO BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 105 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE OF, OF BOND ROAD. OKAY. JUST TO NOTE THAT. PRETTY HALFWAY THE, ALONG THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS AMAL BEFORE WE GET? THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND UM, SAY ANYTHING? HELLO, I'M TANYA, UH, WITH CLAYTON HOMES. UH, THE MORITZ FAMILY IS HERE. UM, THEIR HOME IS 1348 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S A TWO BY SIX EXTERIOR WALLS. IT'S BUILT BETTER THAN STICK BUILD, STICK BUILD ARE TWO BY FOUR, UH, TWO BY EIGHT FLOOR CHOICE, FIVE YEAR WARRANTY ON THEIR HOME. UM, IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE. IF THEY WERE TO PURCHASE A MOD, IT'D BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE. SO THEIR MORTGAGE WOULD BE ABOUT $1,500 MORE A MONTH. UM, THEY DO HAVE A LITTLE BABY BOY AS WELL. AND UH, THIS IS THEIR FAMILY LAND. THE OTHER ACRES BEHIND IT, THE 50 SOME ACRES IS HIS DAD'S PROPERTY AS WELL. UM, SO HE WOULD BE THERE WITH HIS FAMILY. OKAY. AND I DO HAVE A HEALTH PERMIT TOO. SO COURTNEY THOMAS HAS ALREADY, UH, GRANTED THE HEALTH PERMIT. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEE, LET'S SEE. TRYING TO FIND IT HERE. HERE IT IS. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING. SO THE HOUSE, THIS IS THE WELL AREA AND THEN THE HOUSE IS HERE. SO IT IS LIKE IN THE MIDDLE SECTION OF THE, THE PROPERTY. SO WHAT, WHAT THEY SHOWED ON THE MAP WAS PRETTY RIGHT. PRETTY FLAT. OKAY. AND THEN THE SUBJECT'S IN THE BACK. OKAY. AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY IS GONNA BE IN THE FRONT. SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANY, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY. UM, SO AT CLAYTON HOMES WE DO EVERYTHING WELL, SEPTIC CLEARING DRIVEWAY, UM, IT'S A COMPLETE PACKAGE. AND YOU'LL DO ON THE SKIRTING AND EVERYTHING? YES. IT'S A CONCRETE BOARDING WITH STEPS, EVERYTHING. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? MM-HMM. OKAY. LOOKS GOOD TO ME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN? WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. ALRIGHT, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? WE'RE WHITTLING TO CRY DOWN. GETTING BORING, HUH? ALRIGHT, WHAT'S THE, Y'ALL, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? OH NO. YEAH. DOESN'T MATTER. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. CHAIR. BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.288, EXCUSE ME. 2 2 8 8 8 6 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT REZONING CASE P 25 DASH SEVEN AS PRESENTED, BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MR. WITH THE PROFFER? YES. THANK YOU. WITH THE PROFFER. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. AND I'M GONNA THROW A LITTLE CURVE IN HERE. UM, JUST, I WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT, UM, ABOUT MY REASONING FOR BEING IN FAVOR OF THIS. UM, YOU'VE GOT AN AREA THAT WAS ZONED OR ONE THAT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES IN THAT AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO A VERY TYPICAL OF A, A, A TWO PART OF THE COUNTY. SO BY DOING THIS, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE HELPING, UM, A, A FAMILY THAT THAT'S HAVING A HARDSHIP THAT THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T REALIZE TO BEGIN WITH. AND SO, AND I DON'T THINK THE INTEGRITY OF OF THE COMMUNITY REALLY SUFFERS FROM, FROM DOING THIS. SO I THINK IT, IT'S SHOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR, FOR THE, THE FAMILY THAT'S GETTING THIS HOME. AND, AND I DON'T SEE A DOWNSIDE FOR THE COUNTY. SO ROLL CALL DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THE ONE WHO GETS DE BOOT THE BOOT NEXT DOOR YOU SAID? MM-HMM . ALRIGHT, [13.F. Conditional Use Permit Request, C-25-1] GET TO L AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. C DASH 25 DASH ONE MR. BASSETT. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. [02:50:02] UH, THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING IS SOLOMON ALTMAN. OF COURSE, THEY OWN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UH, THERE'S TWO PARCELS OF PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT OWNS. UM, THIS, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO OPERATE OPERATE THE EVENT FACILITY IS GOING ON ONE OF THOSE PARCELS. IT'S 67 DASH ONE DASH FOUR. IT'S THE PARCEL THAT BASICALLY ENCIRCLES THEIR EXISTING RESIDENCE. ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IT'S 50 PLUS ACRES AND IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT. AN EVENT FACILITY IS ALLOWED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THE APPLICANT'S BEEN WORKING WITH MR. CULBERT AND MYSELF ON, UM, ON THE APPLICATION AND, UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON THE APPLICATION AS WELL. AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REALLY DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO ADD RELATED TO THE, UH, SUBJECT REQUEST. UM, SO WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, WE HAVE DEVELOPED CONDITIONS FOR THE SUBJECT REQUEST. FEEL LIKE THE EVENT FACILITY COULD WORK ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, WITH CONDITIONS. SO, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AND STAFF, UM, HAS, UH, INDICATED, UH, THAT, UH, THE USE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AGAIN WITH, UH, CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AS PART OF THAT, UM, AS NOTED, UH, IN OUR STAFF REPORT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD, UH, INTEREST IN, UH, SPECIFIC ITEMS UNDER THE CONDITION, UH, CONDITION ONE, CONDITION SIX AND CONDITION SEVEN. UNDER CONDITION ONE. UH, THEY WANTED TO BE SURE, UM, THAT THE EVENT FACILITY, UM, THAT THE USES ON THE EVENT RELATED TO THE EVENT FACILITY, IF APPROVED, THE USES, UH, WOULD BE, UH, MORE SPECIFIC IN NATURE AND DEFINED AS PART OF CONDITION ONE. UH, SO MR. CHAIR, I DO HAVE, UH, THE CONDITIONS, UH, HAVE BEEN AMENDED. I'D LIKE TO TO NOTE THAT, UH, CONDITION ONE, UH, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, AND SINCE WE, UH, SENT OUT THE STAFF REPORT, UH, WE WANTED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, CONDITION ONE WAS, UH, EASILY DEFINED AS WELL AS, UH, ENFORCEABLE, UM, RELATED TO IT. SO WE DO HAVE A CHANGE IN CONDITION ONE. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO HAND OUT, UH, THE CHANGE, UH, THAT WE HAVE REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED AND ALSO, UH, SO THAT CONDITION ONE IS, UH, MORE IS ENFORCEABLE. UH, IF THERE'S EVER ANY ISSUES WITH USES RELATED TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONDITION, ONE WILL READ. UH, GENERALLY THE USE OF THE PROPERTY SHALL BE LIMITED TO AN EVENT FACILITY, HOWEVER, THE FACILITY SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING. USES BOARDING OF HORSES, HORSE SHOWS AND EVENTS. FOUR H HORSE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS AND EVENTS, FARM SWAP, MARKET, FARM TOURS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND PROPERTY RENTAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT SENTENCE SHALL READ. ALL USES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SO THAT WE ENSURE THAT, UH, THE USE IS ALLOWED, UH, WILL BE ENFORCEABLE UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND THE EVENT FACILITY SHALL BE LOCATED, UM, SOLELY ON TAX MAP PARCEL 67 DASH ONE DASH FOUR. AND UH, TO NOTE, UM, WE'VE ADDED, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, CONCERTS, MUD BOGS OR MOTOR SPORTS EVENTS. [02:55:01] AND SO IT'S BEEN ADDED NO CONCERTS, MUD BOGS OR MOTOR SPORTS EVENTS SHALL BE HELD ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, CONDITION ONE, UH, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. UM, WE ALSO ADDRESS PARKING. ALL PARKING FOR THE EVENT FACILITY SHALL BE ON THE PROPERTY. THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE SHALL COMPLY WITH VDOT ENTRANCE AND DESIGN CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. UH, WE ADDRESS SANITARY SEWER AND POTABLE WATER. UM, ALL THAT WILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. UH, SITE LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTAINED, UH, TO THE PROPERTY. TIME OF OPERATION. ALL OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT FACILITY SHALL ONLY BE CONDUCTED BETWEEN 9:00 AM AND 9:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. UH, WE ADDRESSED OUTDOOR CAMPING. CAMPING WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY, UH, WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO REQUIREMENTS BY THE STATE THAT THEY HAVE SPECIFIC FOR CAMPING. CAMPING WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED AS PART OF, PART OF AN EVENT HELD ON THE PROPERTY. THERE WOULDN'T BE ROUTINE CAMPING ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF, UM, IN A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WOULD BE HELD ON THE PROPERTY. UH, WE ADDRESS SECURITY RELATED TO EVENTS. UM, SPECIAL EVENTS ARE ADDRESSED AS WELL. UM, NOISE, UH, WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR EMITY COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE. UH, THAT'S PART OF CHAPTER 15. ARTICLE ONE, UH, BUFFERING OF THE PROPERTY. UH, WE ADDRESS THAT. I'LL, UH, JUST READ THAT CONDITION WHERE THERE IS EXISTING FORESTED AREA, A 50 FOOT BUFFER FOR THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY EXTENDING FROM THE PERIMETER EXTERIOR PROPERTY LINES INWARD TO THE PROPERTY IS TO BE PERMANENTLY MAINTAINED WHERE CLEARING OF VEGETATION SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, CONDITIONS RELATED TO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS AND ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE SUBJECT, UH, CUP. AND UM, THEN, UH, IF THE CUP IS EVER UP FOR REVOCATION, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED AS A CONDITION AS WELL. SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, WITH STAFF WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, ESPECIALLY TO ADDRESS, UH, MORE SPECIFICITY ON THE USES AS WELL AS TIME OF OPERATION, MAKING SURE THAT'S CLEAR, UM, AND OUTDOOR CAMPING. UM, AND WE'VE, UH, TRIED TO DO THAT, UM, AND CLEAN UP THOSE CONDITIONS AS WELL. UM, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE, THE SUBJECT, UH, PROPERTY BEING ALLOWED TO BE USED, UH, FOR AN EVENT FACILITY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE PROPERTY. JUST, JUST A QUESTION PERTAINING TO, AS FAR AS THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY. I KNOW WE'VE GOT VDOT STANDARDS THERE. ALL WE DOING, HAS THE APPLICANT SAID ANYTHING TO YOU AS FAR AS UPGRADING THAT ENTRANCE COMING AND GOING TO THE PROPERTY? UM, THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT. THE STAFF, I'LL ASK APPLICANT WHEN THEY COME UP, THEY DO INTEND TO USE THAT EXISTING ENTRANCE. RIGHT. BUT, YEAH. AND, AND HOW MANY, UM, DO WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF EVENTS FOR THAT WE CAN DO IN A YEAR'S TIME ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE EVENTS THAT ARE LISTED AS ALLOWED UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING EVERY WEEKEND, THEY COULD. RIGHT. AS LONG AS IT'S A USE THAT THAT'S LISTED, THAT FITS UNDER CONDITION ONE OF THE PERMIT, RIGHT? YES. BUT THEN WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER RELATED TO EVENTS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE, FOR AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR. NO, WE DON'T. NO. OKAY. OKAY. ASK THAT QUESTION TOO. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. UM, UH, AND I NOTICED THAT THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE HORSES. DID IT SAY HOW MANY HORSES? UH, NO, THAT WAS NOT, NOT ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE, THE REQUESTS FOR THE CONDITIONS. I KNOW IF THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A, A WHOLE LOT OR JUST A FEW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT CAN A WELL I ASKED THE APPLICANT. YEAH. I ASKED THE A THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH, I THANK YOU MARK. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND, AND SAY ANYTHING? [03:00:05] OKAY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY MUD BOGS. NO DIRT BIKE RACING , NO LOW CONCERTS. WE HAVE EIGHT HORSES, MA'AM, ON THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW, IF YOU PULL THE MIC DOWN JUST A LITTLE. THANK YOU. IS THAT BETTER? YES MA'AM. OKAY. , RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EIGHT PERSONAL HORSES ON THE PROPERTY. UM, PEOPLE WILL COME IN FOR HORSE SHOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND BRING THEIR HORSES. I'M NOT GONNA OPEN IT UP TO TWO AND 300 PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT, I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE THAT MUCH, HONESTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 20, MAYBE 25 SHOW UP AT LEAST OUR FIRST YEAR. WE'RE HOPING TO GROW A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA HOST WEDDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . AS FAR AS EVENT RENTAL, IF YOU WANNA COME OUT AND RENT THE ARENA FOR YOUR KID TO RIDE, THINGS LIKE, LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GO LARGE SCALE WITH ANY OF THIS. ABSOLUTELY NOT. UM, I LIKE TO KEEP THINGS CLOSE KNIT AND THAT'S WHY I'M WORKING WITH THE FOUR H AND LET THEM COME OUT AND DO PROJECTS OUT THERE AND HORSE SHOWS AND THINGS. BENEFITS, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND DO A BENEFIT THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY, UM, FOR THE FOUR H CLUB WE'RE GONNA DO A BENEFIT FOR SOME CERTAIN DIFFERENT ANIMAL RESCUES. UM, THE VETERANS GROUP, THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AND DO SOME HORSEBACK RIDING, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO. AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT NOW. IT'S PROBABLY ONE A MONTH JUST TILL WE CAN GET ON OUR FEET AND GET FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR. 'CAUSE WE'RE WELL INTO THIS YEAR AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY PLANNED THEIR HORSE SHOWS SO . SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW. GOTCHA. SO YEAH, THAT, SO THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA BE LOW KEY, LOW SCALE. AND AS FAR AS THE ENTRANCE GOES, WE ARE UPGRADING THE ENTRANCE. YEAH. SO WE'RE GONNA WIDEN IT SO TRAILERS AND STUFF CAN, I CAN GET IN THERE WITH MY BIG TRAILER, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN DRIVE . YEAH. BUT WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER, YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY ON BALTIMORE ROAD'S NOT RUNNING INTO THE BACK OF THE TRAILER. IT'S TRYING TO GET IN OR HAS GOTTEN STUCK. RIGHT. YEAH. AND THANKFULLY WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TRAFFIC ON BALTIMORE. THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD IT HASN'T BEEN PAVED YET. , YOU NEVER KNOW. RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T. YEAH. WELL YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD IT HASN'T BEEN PAVED HUNTING SEASON. WE'VE GOT HUNTERS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I, VERY FEW PEOPLE. I LOVE IT. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR? YEAH, I JUST, YEAH, I KNOW YOU SAID YOUR HORSES. YEAH, YEAH, SURE. UM, YOUR HORSES AND, UM, OTHERS CAN BRING THEIR, THEIR HORSES IN. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UM, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AT THE SHOWS? MAYBE? I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF VISUALIZE HOW MANY YOU MAY HAVE OR, OR, OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE 50, BUT NO, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. UM, WE USUALLY, MOST OF THE SHOWS THAT I PUT ON THE TYPE THAT I PUT ON MAYBE 10 TO 15, 20 AT THE MOST, UM, THAT'S BEING VERY GENEROUS UNTIL WE GET KNOWN AND GET, GET OUT THERE FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE. AND SO, BUT IT, IT'S, I'M GONNA CAP IT. I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA, NINE TO NINE IS ONLY 12 HOURS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEALING WITH HORSES AND ARENAS AND I DON'T WANT EACH HORSE OUT THERE FOR AN HOUR AND DOING STUFF, SO I'M GONNA CAP, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW MANY, DEPENDS ON WHAT EVENT I HAVE. I CAP IT AT 10 FOR CERTAIN EVENTS AND 15 FOR OTHER EVENTS. SO IT DEPENDS. BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS OUT THERE, HAS A GOOD TIME AND WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME IN THE DAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY, ALL THE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. SHE'S IN A RURAL SETTING, MS. BOND. OH. OH YEAH. AIN'T NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. WHERE SHE'S AT. I KNOW. THERE YOU GO. YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE PIGS OUT THERE. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S DARK. I THINK AT NIGHT IT GETS DARK. OH YEAH. YEAH. SOME OF THE RULES THEY ARE . I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP. ALRIGHT, I'LL EXTEND MY OFFER ONE MORE TIME. IS THERE ANYONE THAT LIKE, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS? UM, YOU KNOW, I DO FEEL LIKE, UM, 300 IS A GOOD NUMBER FOR THE TOP END AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THE PROFFERS, UM, PROTECT THE LANDOWNER AND PROTECT THE COUNTY. UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, SHE'S, SHE'S REALLY GOT ONE NEIGHBOR RIGHT NOW AND THEN MOST OF THE LAND AROUND HER IS COMPANY LAND. UM, CUT OVER TUMBLE LAND OR EITHER BACK GROWING PINES AGAIN. UM, SO, UM, [03:05:01] UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE NOTHING. YEAH. NOTHING BAD. YEAH. DOES ANYBODY, UM, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S BOARD'S PLEASURE MS. BONNER'S GETTING READY? UM, UM, HE'S TRYING TO FIND IT. I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. ALRIGHT, UM, BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN, IT IS STATED THAT THE, THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND MOVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE, USE PERMIT REQUEST C DASH 25.1 AS PRESENTED TO OPERATE AN EVENT FACILITY APPROVED WITH WITH CONDITIONS. YEAH. UH, BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THEY HAVE SIDE MS. BONNER, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED AND AMENDED TONIGHT, JUST WE THREW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A CURVE BALL WITH THE AMENDED CONDITIONS. AMENDED. AND AMENDED? YES. OH, OKAY. SO NOT, OH TONIGHT AS YOU SAID. YEP. SECOND. ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD. WE TO SECOND? YEAH. OKAY. ROLL CALL DR. MOORE. AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT. I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT. ALRIGHT. [14.A. Appointments] AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO OLD AND NEW BUSINESS APPOINTMENTS. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE HAVE A NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, UH, MOTION TO APPOINT RANDY HAWKINS, UH, FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE 6 30 20 29. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE? AYE. ALL VOTING? AYE. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP. MR. CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO CITIZEN? COMMENT? ALRIGHT, UH, BOARD [16. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS] MEMBER COMMENTS? MR. CHAVIS? I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, SIR. I'M GOOD. UH, NO. ONLY THING I DO WANNA SAY IS FOR THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, THE PICTURES, UH, BECAUSE IT DOES, UM, UM, PRESENT A GOOD OUTLOOK OF WHAT, UH, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND EVERYTHING AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT, UM, OTHER THAN THE LITTLE BLOCKS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. GOT IT. AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR PLANNING. UM, I'M NOT READY TO GO HOME YET. NO. OH, COME ON. UM, I KNOW WITH BUSINESSES WE'VE GOT A LIGHT ORDINANCE WITH LIGHTS THAT'RE SUPPOSED TO SHINE DOWN. IF FOR SOME REASON LIGHTS ARE NOT SHINING DOWN, DO WE COMPLAIN TO Y'ALL ? BECAUSE I GOT A COUPLE OF COMPLAINTS, BUT YES. OKAY. SHORT ANSWER. YES. ALRIGHT, I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. SOMEWHERE ELSE AND RIGHT HERE, BUT, OKAY. UM, YEAH, WITH MY EYES LIKE THEY ARE, I'M NOTICING THINGS MORE THAN, THAN I I HAD BEEN SO, BUT I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING, OKAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING? NO, MR. NELSON? I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD. ALL DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND ROLL CALL DR. MOORE? AYE. MR. CHAVIS? AYE. MS. EBRA BONNER. AYE. MR. LEE A ALL VOTING AYE. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.