Jun 11, 2025 Planning Commission

SHE CAME HERE AND SPOKE. THAT NIGHT AND SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT DEVELOPED.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AMEN. THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

MR. SIMMONS HERE. MR. TITMUS HERE. MR. LANGLEY.

HERE, MR. TUCKER. MR. CUNNINGHAM HERE. MR. HAYES HERE.

AND MR. HARPER. YEAH. SIX MEMBERS OF ARE PRESENT.

OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. SECOND.

MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM.

AYE. MR. TITMUS. MR. HARVILLE? YES. AND MR. HAYES.

YES. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING ON. THEIR APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SECOND. MR. TITMUS? YES. MR. SIMMONS. YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. HAYES? YES.

AND MR. HARVILLE. YES. FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT PRESIDENT VOTING I.

ONE MEMBER ABSTAINING. OKAY, NOW WE ARE AT THE PORTION WHERE WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS.

MR.. HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? MR.. CHAIR, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.

OKAY, THEN I WILL REFRAIN FROM READING THE COMMENTS STATEMENT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO.

[7. PUBLIC HEARING]

AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO MR. BASSETT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. THE CASE WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS P DASH 25, DASH EIGHT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SEE DASH 20 5-4.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE REZONING REQUEST FIRST. THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING IS FLOWER SOLAR LLC, AND THAT IS A LLC OWNED BY GREENVILLE POWER ACTUALIZE, LLC.

AND THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CASE THIS EVENING IS FLOWER SOLAR, LLC.

AND THEIR ATTORNEY IS HERE THIS EVENING. THAT WILL BE SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING.

MISTER WHITE'S NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE THE MEETING THIS EVENING.

AS PART OF THE REZONING THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR THE SEED, WHAT WE CALL THE SEED DISTRICT.

THAT'S THE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR ENERGY DISTRICT AND THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.

OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY ZONED A2 AGRICULTURAL.

AND THEN THERE IS A PIECE IN THE VERY CENTER OF THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT ZONED M2 INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.

OVERALL, THERE'S FIVE PARCELS THAT ARE TOTAL 196 ACRES ON THE SITE.

THAT WOULD BE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR ENERGY DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THIS IS THEIR GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY ALL THE PROPERTIES YOU CAN SEE IS OUTLINED IN THAT PURPLE OUTLINE THAT IS A 75 FOOT BUFFER THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE ALSO THERE'S THE BRIGHT GREEN AREA ON THERE THAT BETWEEN THE, THE PURPLE AREA, THAT IS AN AREA THAT THEY'RE DISTINGUISHING WHERE THERE'S NOT AN EXISTING VEGETATIVE BUFFER THAT THEY WOULD BE

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SO, AS YOU CAN TELL WITH THE EXISTING VEGETATION AND ALSO THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING RAIL BED THEY'RE INDICATING THAT A MAJORITY OF THE SITE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE SEEN FROM ROUTE 460.

THIS IS THE SAME APPLICATION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION A YEAR AGO.

JUNE OF 2024 WITH THE MAJOR CHANGE. IS THAT THE PROPERTY ON THE SLIDE THERE THAT HAS THE CROPLAND THAT'S THAT'S BEING FARMED ABOVE WALKER'S POND ROAD ON THE VERY NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.

THAT WAS A 33 ACRE PARCEL THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION, AND WILL REMAIN AS IT IS TODAY.

AGRICULTURAL PARCEL. IT'S NOT NO LONGER PART OF THE APPLICATION.

AGAIN, THAT WAS THE 33 ACRE PARCEL. SO THE PROJECT SIZE NOW HAS BEEN REDUCED TO, AGAIN, THE 190, 96 ACRES. THE PROJECT. JUST TO FURTHER NOTE SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THE PROJECT WOULD BE ACCESSED ON THE NORTH SIDE FROM WALKER'S POND DRIVE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT AREA. THEY HAVE IT START ON THE VERY NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE ACCESSED FROM 460.

THERE'S AN EXISTING ENTRANCE OFF OF 460 THERE.

THAT DOES CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD. AND THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD ACCESS ACCESS THE SITE.

FROM 460 TO ACCESS THAT SOUTHERN PORTION. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO TIE INTO THE DOMINION DISTRIBUTION GRID ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ROUTE 460.

BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE 460 RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THIS CONNECTION WILL CONSIST OF FOUR POLES OWNED BY DOMINION AND ONE POLE OWNED BY THE PROJECT.

THESE POLES WILL SUPPORT THE DISTRIBUTION CONNECTION LINE, TRANSFORMER, CIRCUIT BREAKERS AND RELAYS.

THE ELECTRIC LINES TO GET TO THE INTERCONNECTION POINT WILL ALL BE UNDERGROUND.

UP TO THAT POINT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BORE UNDER THE RAILROAD TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

JUST TO NOTE, AS FAR AS COVERAGE FOR THE SOLAR PANELS, THE SOLAR PANELS WOULD COVER APPROXIMATELY 75, 76 ACRES OF THE SITE. THE FENCED AREA IS PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 121.7 ACRES, AND THE PANELS WOULD COVER 39% OF THE LEASED AREA AND 62.3% OF THE FENCED AREA.

ALL OF THE PANELS WOULD BE FENCED IN IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS ON THE SITE.

I DON'T THINK I NOTED THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO BE A 20 MEGAWATT PROJECT.

AND NEXT I WANTED TO JUST NOTE OUR COMPREHENSIVE.

MOVE TO OUR NEXT SLIDE. DID I DID I TURN IT GREEN ON THE SIDE THERE? MR. BASSETT? YES. IT'S GREEN. I'M SORRY, SIR.

IT'S. PERFECT. THERE WE GO. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THE.

IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE COLORED AREA. YELLOW ORANGE COLORED AREA IS WHAT WE CALL THE PHASED GROWTH AREA.

AND ALSO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE IS WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

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THAT'S TO NOTE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S FOR FUTURE LAND USE.

IT'S FOR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. COMMERCIAL TYPE USES HOPEFULLY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS FOR OF COURSE HOPEFULLY WE'D HAVE DINWIDDIE COUNTY RESIDENTS EMPLOYED WITH BUSINESSES COMING TO THAT AREA, INDUSTRIAL TYPE. AGAIN, COMMERCIAL TYPE USES PLANNED GROWTH AREA.

IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LOOKING MORE FOR LIMITED RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

JUST TO NOTE, CURRENTLY THERE THERE ARE NO WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS WITHIN THAT AREA.

THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE AREA CURRENTLY ARE THEY UTILIZE ON SITE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SINCE THE LAST APPLICATION THAT CAME IN JUNE OF 2024, THAT DINWIDDIE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY HAS LOOKED AT THIS APPLICATION AGAIN AND SENT A LETTER RECENTLY TO PLANNING STAFF JUST NOTING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION. THEY FELT LIKE IT WOULD NOT DISTURB ANY OF THEIR FUTURE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE AT THE PROPERTY. AND ALSO IF THE PROJECT WENT THROUGH IT WOULD NOT IMPEDE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE AREA FOR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY JUST DID NOTE THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE COUNTY AND THE WATER AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PROJECT, TO ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ON SITE AND THROUGH THE SITE, IF NEEDED, ARE RELATED TO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. JUST A NOTE.

IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL, THERE ARE OTHER SECTIONS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE FELT LIKE RELATE TO THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING. PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND.

THERE ARE AREAS WITHIN THE SITE THAT ARE WHERE PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND DOES EXIST.

SENSITIVE LANDS AND HABITATS, AS NOTED IN ALL THEIR REPORTS.

AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION, THEY DID DO A BAT STUDY THE LONGER THE NORTHERN LONG EARED BAT.

WAS NOT FOUND TO BE HAVE A HABITAT WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

WANTED TO NOTE THAT AIR AND LIGHT THERE WERE NO RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS AIR LIGHT. NOTHING NOTED BY FAA RELATED TO THE AIRPORT WITH THE PANELS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE ALL THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES WITHIN THE APPLICATION.

AND JUST A NOTE. IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, ALL THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY DEQ AS WELL.

AND I WENT OVER THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS WITHIN THE COMP PLAN, THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AREA AND THE PHASE FACE GROWTH AREA.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THEY DID DO A FISCAL IMPACT STUDY AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX REVENUE FOR THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY $3.6 MILLION OVER THE 40 YEAR LIFE OF THE PROJECT. THIS INCLUDES $2.55 MILLION FROM THE TAX ON CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN MACHINERY AND TOOLS, PLUS $0.61 MILLION FROM THE INCREASED APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY USED FOR THE SOLAR PROJECT AND THE ONE TIME PAYMENT OF ROLLBACK TAXES. IF THE REVENUE SHARE OPTION WAS USED AS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WOULD ASSESS UP TO ONE $1,400 PER MEGAWATT OF SOLAR PROJECT CAPACITY WITH AN ESCALATOR OF 10% EVERY FIVE YEARS. BUT BEGINNING IN 2026 AND THAT WOULD PRODUCE APPROXIMATELY

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I WENT OVER THE VISUAL IMPACTS AS PART OF THE PROJECT AGAIN.

THERE IS A 75 FOOT BUFFER ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SITE.

AND THEN THEY DO HAVE THE ONE AREA ON THE FRONT OF THE SITE, WHERE THEY WERE PROPOSING A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. ALSO TO NOTE, JUST WHILE I'M TALKING ABOUT VISUAL IMPACTS, THEY DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PROJECT FOR THE SITE. HOPING TO MAINTAIN A LOT OF THE VEGETATION ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.

BUT THEY DID SUBMIT THAT WE'LL GO OVER IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS.

BONDING AS PART OF THAT, THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN.

TRAFFIC IMPACTS. THE AGAIN, THERE WOULD BE VDOT LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION AND WAS OKAY WITH HAVING ONE ACCESS POINT ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE OFF OF 460 AND WAS OKAY WITH THEM ACCESSING THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE AT WALKER'S POND DRIVE. IT WAS NOTED THAT THERE THE PATH THAT THEY WOULD USE FOR TRUCKS WOULD BE ALDRIDGE ROAD. THEY WOULD NOT BE UTILIZING AMAZON ROAD AND ACCESSING THE, THE SITE FROM THE WEST FROM NAMSAN ROAD THAT WOULD ACCESS OFF OF FOR 60 UTILIZING ALDRIDGE ROAD AS THEIR HAUL ROAD TO ACCESS THE SITE. THEY DID SUBMIT A DECOMMISSIONING PLAN AS WELL. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AND THAT'S DETAILED AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS WELL AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND SEDIMENT CONTROL AS WELL.

INSPECTIONS ARE NOTED IN THERE AS WELL. THAT THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO INSPECT THE SITE AND THERE IS REIMBURSEMENT FOR COUNTY INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS IF COUNTY NEEDS REIMBURSEMENT FOR PLAN REVIEWS AS PART OF REVIEWING THE OVERALL PROJECT. IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT THERE'S FUNDING AS WELL FOR THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU, MR. BASSETT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HARVILLE AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

FOR THE RECORD. I'M STEVE ROMINE. I'M REPRESENTING FLOWERS SOLAR LLC.

THE APPLICANT IN REZONING CASE NUMBER 20 5-8 AND THE COOP CASE C, DASH 20 5-4 IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE GREEN VOLT REPRESENTATIVE, BOB WHITE, HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCIES IN THE HOSPITAL AND HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO REPRESENT THE COMPANY TONIGHT.

AS YOU MAY KNOW THIS IS A REVISED AND IMPROVED APPLICATION.

I HAVE A POWERPOINT WHICH OUTLINES THE MERITS, HIGHLIGHTS THE CHANGES AND SPOTLIGHTS THE BENEFITS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT FIRST SLIDE ON THE SCREEN UP THERE.

IT SAYS REVISED AND IMPROVED. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW IT'S REVISED AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A YEAR AGO.

WE HEARD THE COMMENTS MADE AT BOTH THE HEARINGS AND FROM THE CITIZENS, AND WE'VE MADE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION, AND IT'S ALSO IMPROVED. ONE THING WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING UP TOP IS IT'S GENERATING LOCAL POWER TO MEET LOCAL POWER NEEDS.

AND I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

THIS IS A DISTRIBUTION PROJECT NOT A TRANSMISSION PROJECT A DISTRIBUTION PROJECT.

ALL THE POWER GENERATED HERE STAYS IN THE COUNTY AND HELPS THE COUNTY BE RESILIENT AND PROVIDES ELECTRICITY TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES

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AND IT HELPED THE COUNTY BECOME MORE ENERGY DEPENDENT.

MAKE SURE MY THING IS ON. OKAY. WHERE DO I POINT THIS? THAT WORKING. LET ME TRY IT NOW. OH, THERE WE GO.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO BRIEFLY I'M GOING TO BE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S A SMALL SOLAR ENERGY PROJECT. ONLY 20MW.

IT'S LOCATED IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR NORTH OF ROUTE FOUR, 60 COX ROAD, BEHIND THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILROAD NEXT TO TYNDALL CORPORATION, A LARGE CONCRETE MANUFACTURING FACILITY. IT IS CONNECTED TO THE DOMINION DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM ON PROJECT SITE WITHOUT ANY SUBSTATION.

THERE'S FOUR POLES AND THEN A FIFTH POLE THAT CONNECT RIGHT THERE ON 460.

ONLY 38% OF THE LEASED PROPERTY IS UNDER SOLAR PANELS, AS INDICATED BY MR. BATES. AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS PRESENTATION, WHICH I THINK THE STAFF REPORT.

THE STAFF REPORT IS, BY AND LARGE, VERY POSITIVE, BUT 196 ACRES IS THE PROJECT SITE, BUT ONLY 75 ACRES ARE UNDER SOLAR PANELS AND ONLY 17 ACRES IS FARMLAND.

8% VERY SMALL AMOUNT. THEY'RE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS, BOTH EXISTING AND PLANTED.

AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT THOSE ON THE MAP WHEN I SHOW THAT.

THERE'S THE RAILROAD AND THE WATER TOWER THAT ELIMINATE PROJECT VISIBILITY ON ALL SIDES.

ENTRANCE ROADS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO BE S-SHAPED TO FURTHER ELIMINATE VISIBILITY ALONG WALKER POND DRIVE, AND THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE NINE MONTHS AND POSSIBLY SHORTER, AND BE COMPLETED NEXT YEAR.

THE PROJECT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE. WILL MAKE NOISE.

NO NOISE. YOU WON'T SMELL. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE WATER, SEWER OR TRASH SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY.

SO A VERY POSITIVE ON THOSE ASPECTS. LET ME SEE IF I'M DOING THIS RIGHT.

IT'S NOT ADVANCING AGAIN. LET'S SEE. AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG? OOPS. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY.

THIS SLIDE IS VERY IMPORTANT. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF INFORMATION.

FIRST OF ALL, THE GREEN LINE THERE ALONG FOR 60.

THE BRIGHT GREEN LINE IS THE ONLY SECTION OF THE WHOLE TRANSACTION.

THE WHOLE PROJECT SITE. THAT IS NOT BUFFERED.

AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE BUFFER. WE INTEND TO PLANT ALONG THAT SECTION IN ORDER TO BLOCK VISIBILITY FROM 460.

PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM ON THIS PLAT, OR THIS MAP, IS TO SHOW HOW WE TOOK OUT THE NORTHERN PARCEL FROM THE PROJECT.

IT HAS AN X THROUGH AT THE TOP THAT WAS IN THE PROJECT LAST YEAR.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE PARCELS THAT OFFENDED THOSE TWO RESIDENCES NEARBY.

AND SO WE HEARD THEM LOUD AND CLEAR. AND SO WE ELIMINATED THAT 33 ACRES FROM THE PROJECT.

YOU'LL SEE THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN RIGHT OF WAY LINE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PROJECT, BETWEEN 460 AND OUR PARCEL.

IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND BLOCKAGE TO VISIBILITY.

THE RAILROAD PROVIDES THAT BLOCKAGE THERE. YOU'LL SEE TWO ACCESS POINTS.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, ONE THIRD OF THE PROJECT IS IN THE NORTHEAST NORTHWEST CORNER AND TWO THIRDS ARE BELOW THAT.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THERE'S WETLANDS THAT RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE CAN'T CROSS OVER ON A ROAD. THOSE TWO LONG LINES THAT GO THROUGH THAT BISECT THE PROJECT ARE TRANSMISSION LINES, AND THERE ARE NO SOLAR PANELS UNDER THAT. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED AND HOW IT TOUCHES PEOPLE AROUND IT, THE TWO THIRDS AT THE BOTTOM HALF, NEXT TO THE RAILROAD LINE, WILL BE ACCESSED FROM 460.

AT THAT STAR POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN POINT THIS OR NOT.

IS THERE A POINTER ON THIS? STEVE? YEAH, YEAH.

YOU SEE THE POINT THERE? THAT'S THE 460 ACCESS, AND WE HAVE TO CROSS THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN RIGHT AWAY.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE THEIR BASICALLY APPROVAL TO DO THAT.

AND THEN ONE THIRD OF THE PROJECT IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT COMES OFF WALKER'S POND ROAD.

AND THAT'S BEEN THE SOURCE OF CONTENTION OF THE TWO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.

AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE IN A MINUTE.

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THERE ARE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE NOT OWNED BY THEM.

TO THE WEST, BETWEEN US AND THE PROJECT LINE.

SO YOU HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THEN ON OUR PROPERTY WE HAVE A 75 FOOT BUFFER, ALL HEAVILY WOODED. NEITHER ONE OF THOSE RESIDENCES ARE GOING TO SEE THE PROJECT AT ALL.

AND SO THAT'S 929FT AND 656FT TO THE WESTERN BOUNDARY LINE.

AND HAVING TAKEN OUT THAT NORTHERN PARCEL, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.

WALKER POND DRIVE COMES FROM THE NORTH, CURLS AROUND A LITTLE BIT, AND IT PROVIDES OUR SECOND ACCESS.

YOU'LL SEE A STAR THERE WHERE WE ENTER OUR PROJECT.

WE HAVE AGREED TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN WALK UPON ROAD ALL THE WAY PAST THE RESIDENCES ON THAT ROAD.

YOU KNOW, TO THE EAST. WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE IT AND PROVE APPROVE IT AND MAINTAIN IT DURING THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE'VE AGREED TO DO THAT. THERE'S ALREADY A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IN PLACE, BUT WE'VE AGREED TO AMEND THAT AND TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

THE WETLANDS ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT.

WE WILL NOT CROSS THE WETLANDS, OUR COLLECTION LINES THAT HAVE TO RUN BETWEEN THE TWO HALVES OR THE THIRD AND THE TWO THIRDS OF THE PROJECT WILL BE BORED UNDERGROUND.

SO THERE'LL BE NO WETLANDS IMPACTS ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU ON THIS MAP.

THIS MAP IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU FOR 60 SHOWS YOU THE RAILROAD LINE, SHOWS YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BUFFER, SHOWS YOU THE DISTANCES FROM THOSE RESIDENCES, SHOWS THAT WE REMOVED THAT PARCEL.

AND OUR ACCESS POINTS ARE REALLY GOOD. EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TINDAL OPERATION, RIGHT TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT. AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE ACCESS OFF OF WALKER POND ROAD.

AND THIS WAS LOOKING FROM WALKER POND DRIVE INTO THE PROJECT, AND WE AGREED TO DO AN S CURVE SO NO ONE CAN LOOK DIRECTLY INTO THE SITE AND SEE SOLAR PANELS. SO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ALONG PARKER WALKER POND DRIVE, WHEN THEY DRIVE DOWN IT, THEY WON'T SEE THE PANELS. THEY WON'T SEE IT AT THE ACCESS POINT AND THEY WON'T SEE IT FROM THEIR HOUSES.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM 460. THAT BRIGHT GREEN LINE I SHOWED YOU ON THAT MAP THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUFFERING THERE. SO THIS IS IF YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, THIS WAS DONE BY THE TIMMONS GROUP.

IT SAYS AT PLANTING, IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE PROJECT, YOU SEE THE KIND OF THE SOLAR PANELS, YOU SEE THOSE TREES PLANTED. THE STOP SIGN IS WHERE THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILROAD LINE IS.

SO YOU GO UP TO THE STOP SIGN NORFOLK SOUTHERN, YOU CROSS OVER, AND THOSE ARE THE PANELS.

WE'LL DO THOSE PLANTINGS ALONG THERE. THAT'S AT PLANTING THE NEXT SLIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT DID IT. DID IT MOVE? CAN YOU TELL? OKAY. THIS IS AT FIVE YEARS. LOOK BACK AT THAT LINE AGAIN.

YOU SEE, THE TREES HAVE POPULATED, GROWN, GONE UP.

THIS IS AT TEN YEARS. VERY WELL SCREENED. AND THAT'S THE ONLY SECTION OF THE WHOLE PROJECT THAT HAD ANY VISIBILITY ISSUES. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON A BERM WITH PLANTED TREES.

SO THAT'S A TEN YEARS. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS A SLIDE THAT IS ALSO TAKEN FROM 460.

AND WHAT WE TRY TO SHOW HERE TIMMONS TRY TO IMPLEMENT THIS IS THIS IS RETAINED VEGETATION.

AND THE YELLOW LINE. YOU SEE THERE IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT'S BELOW.

SO IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE SHOWING BELOW THOSE YELLOW LINES IS THAT ARE THE PANELS.

YOU CAN'T SEE IT IF YOU LOOK IN THE LEFT HAND BOTTOM CORNER.

IT'S BASICALLY PANELS NOT VISIBLE FROM VIEWPOINT.

BUT WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU THAT THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE JUST BEHIND THE VEGETATION.

SO THERE YOU GOT THE TRANSMISSION LINES. YOU GOT THE THE WATER TANK.

IT'S ALREADY GOT SOME VISIBILITY ISSUES. NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN SHOWS RETAINED VEGETATION. TAKEN FROM ANOTHER VANTAGE POINT.

THAT YELLOW IS JUST SHOWING YOU THERE'S PANELS BELOW THAT VEGETATION YOU CAN'T SEE.

OKAY. THIS SLIDE HERE REALLY IS INTENDED TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT.

IT ALSO BLOWS UP AND SHOWS YOU OUR TWO ACCESS POINTS.

ACCESS POINT FROM RIVER ROAD UP TO THE NORTH OFF OF WALKER'S POND.

WALKER'S POND IS A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S NOT PUBLIC.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO. WILL IMPROVE IT AND MAINTAIN IT.

SEE, WE ACCESS THE PROPERTY AT THE STAR. IF YOU GO FURTHER EAST, THAT'S WHERE THE TWO HOMES ARE.

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SO THEY'LL ENJOY THE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE GIVE ON THAT.

AND THEN THE STAR ALONG FOR 60 JUST INDICATES ACCESS THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TIMMONS DO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE CONSTRUCTION.

THE ONLY REAL IMPACTS ARE DURING CONSTRUCTION, 6 TO 9 MONTHS AND 26.

AFTER THAT, IT'S 3 TO 5 TRUCKS A MONTH GOING IN THERE.

VERY LOW TRAFFIC, VERY PASSIVE. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THAT PROJECT.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE TO THE RIGHT OGLES ROAD.

YOU SEE, TYNDALL OWNS THE PARCEL TO THE WEST, THAT BIG GRAY AREA AND ACROSS OLGA'S IS THAT PINK AREA.

TYNDALL OWNS 30 ACRES ON THE EAST. THE REASON WHY WE POINTED THAT OUT IS LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THIS, SOME PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT TYNDALL MIGHT WANT TO EXPAND WEST.

AND WE HAVE EXPLORED THAT, INVESTIGATED THAT.

AND THERE'S WETLANDS THERE. AND TYNDALL WOULDN'T EXPAND WEST.

YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT FROM ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT OWNS SOME OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. SO WE'RE NOT FORGOING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THE COUNTY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE BY TYING THIS UP WITH THE SOLAR.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. SO WE ARE AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

WALMART IS ACROSS THE STREET. TINDALL IS HERE.

AND I THINK VULCAN MATERIALS AND THEY'VE GOT THE WATER AUTHORITY AND YOU GOT THE POWER LINES.

SO MOVING ALONG LOCAL POWER AND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, LET ME HIGHLIGHT THIS REAL QUICKLY AND START TALKING ABOUT SOME BENEFITS.

I SAID EARLIER, THE PROJECT IS DISTRIBUTION CONNECTED.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS IT'LL CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THE DOMINION DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND GENERATE AND DELIVER LOCAL POWER FOR LOCAL USE.

IT WILL HOOK UP INTO THE DISTRIBUTION LINES, NOT A TRANSMISSION LINE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO RUN TO A SUBSTATION, THEN A SUBSTATION, THE TRANSMISSION LINE AND THOSE PROJECTS WITH YOUR UTILITY SCALE.

YOU'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE IN THE COUNTY ALREADY.

THEY TAKE THE POWER AND THEY WHEEL IT TO MARYLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA.

IT GOES ELSEWHERE. AND SO LOCAL RURAL COUNTIES FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING BURDENED.

FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BENEFITING THEM. BUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN US AND THAT TRANSMISSION PROJECT IS THE POWER STAYS HERE IN DINWIDDIE.

SO WE HIGHLIGHTED HERE BENEFIT NUMBER ONE. THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE ENOUGH CLEAN POWER TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF 3500 HOUSEHOLDS OR THE NEEDS OF LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.

AND GREENVILLE IS DOING DISTRIBUTION PROJECTS IN SEVERAL OTHER LOCALITIES AROUND VIRGINIA.

AND THAT'S A REAL POWERFUL ARGUMENT, IS BECAUSE AS DATA CENTERS ARE SUCKING POWER OUT OF THE GRID, WE'RE FEARFUL THERE COULD BE BROWNOUTS AND BLACKOUTS ELSEWHERE.

AND IF THAT POWER DOESN'T GET THROUGH THE TRANSMISSION GRID DOWN TO DINWIDDIE, IF YOU HAVE PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT'S GENERATING POWER LOCALLY, IT'S GOING RIGHT ON THE LINES INTO THE HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

IT'S GOING TO PROTECT YOU FROM DEPENDANCE ON IMPORTED POWER.

VIRGINIA TODAY IMPORTS 30% OF ITS POWER. IT DOESN'T GENERATE.

IT'S NOT ENERGY INDEPENDENT. SO IF 70% IS GENERATED IN VIRGINIA, THE OTHER 30% COMES IN.

IF THERE'S A CUTOFF THERE OR A BLOCK OR AN OUTAGE, IT CAN REALLY IMPACT YOU.

SO WE REALLY THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT ALREADY TO SELL THIS POWER, BECAUSE THE POWER OPERATORS UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS RESILIENCY BENEFIT.

NUMBER TWO, I MENTIONED WE'LL SUPPLY ELECTRICITY LOCALLY WHEN THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE, IMPROVING DUNWOODY'S GRID RESILIENCY, MAKING THE COUNTY MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. THE LIGHTS WILL STAY ON WHEN OTHERS MAY NOT HAVE POWER.

THE ABOVE BENEFITS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. IS THE DEMAND FOR ELECTRICITY INCREASED FROM DATA CENTERS? I MENTIONED THAT THIS MAKES THE FLOWER SOLAR FULFILL ITS STRATEGIC MISSION CAN BE VIEWED AS FOR THE GREATER PUBLIC GOOD FOR DUNWOODY CITIZENS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES, WE CAN DEBATE WHETHER THE MONEY WE HAVE AGREED TO PAY, THE INCREASED TAXES, THE NET TAX, THE CITY AGREEMENT MONEY.

WELL, THAT MOVES THE MEETING A LOT. I THINK IN THIS COUNTY IT DOESN'T. IT'S THE USE PERMIT, AND THE REZONING HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN FEET.

BUT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT MONEY IN A MINUTE. BUT EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THE GREATER GOOD HERE IS SERVED BY THE TYPE OF THIS PROJECT AND HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP DINWIDDIE GRID. NEXT SLIDE IS BENEFIT NUMBER THREE.

HERE IS THE ECONOMICS $2 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT DURING CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY JUST CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND BUILDING WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD $140,000 DURING OPERATIONS, BUT THEN 3.2 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE AND NOT TAX OVER THE 40 YEAR LIFE.

AND IF YOU COMPARE THAT, IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, I THINK IT'S LIKE $36,000.

IT'S REALLY NOTHING. SO YOU GOT 3.2 MILLION VERSUS LEAVING IT LIKE IT IS, WHICH WON'T PROVIDE MUCH OF ANY ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY.

AND THEN BENEFIT FOUR IS WE'RE NEGOTIATING A SITE AGREEMENT.

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KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A VERY SMALL PROJECT. 20,000,020MW.

196 ACRES. COMPARED TO SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES YOU'VE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

THE SENDING AGREEMENT ALSO ELIMINATES THE NEED TO DETERMINE IF THE PROJECT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN.

MR. BASSETT MENTIONED THE COMP PLAN. AS YOU KNOW, THE COMP PLAN IS A GUIDE.

IT'S NOT A MANDATE. IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S IT'S A GOOD THING.

AND YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE. HE MANAGED.

HE MENTIONED THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND THE PHASE GROWTH AREA, AI CENTER AREA, I THINK HAVING BEEN BEING IN THAT WERE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THOSE TWO OVERLAY AREAS.

WE ARE INDUSTRIAL. AND I THINK WE'LL PROVIDE BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THAT.

LET ME TALK ABOUT THE TWO RESIDENTS OPPOSING THE PROJECT.

AND THE REASON I RAISE THIS IS BECAUSE THIS WAS THE MATERIAL REASON GIVEN LAST TIME WHY WE DIDN'T GET AN APPROVAL.

AND THEY MAY THEY MAY BE HERE TONIGHT AND THEY MAY WANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR ON THEIR BEHALF. BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

SO THE RULES AND THE DANIEL ENGE, THEY RESIDE IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED.

THE TWO RESIDENTS ARE NOT ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.

PARTICULARLY WITH THE FACT THAT WE TOOK OUT THE 33 ACRES ON THIS REVISED APPLICATION.

WE WENT WITH THEM. I DIDN'T MEET WITH THEM, BUT GREEN BALL MET WITH THEM AND WITH DOCTOR MOORE, AND THEY EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS.

AND SO GREENVILLE GREENVILLE COMMITTED TO THESE FIVE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

FIRST, THEY REMOVED THAT NORTH PARCEL ENTIRELY AND THE PROJECT SITE SIZE WAS REDUCED.

AND THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES BETWEEN THEM AND THE PROJECT. AND I MENTIONED 929FT, 656FT.

SO THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL DISTANCE AND THERE'S ALSO THE 75 FOOT BUFFER BEYOND OUR FENCE LINE ON OUR PROPERTY, THAT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER. WE REDUCED OUR ENTRANCES FROM 4 TO 2.

I MADE THAT S-SHAPED CURVE I SHOWED YOU ALONG WALKER'S POND DRIVE.

WE COMMITTED TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN WALKER POND DRIVE DURING THE PROJECT LIFE, AT NO COST TO THE TWO RESIDENTS OR OTHER NEIGHBORS YOU MIGHT HEAR TONIGHT.

THEY DON'T CARE. THEY WANT TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

WELL, WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT TO UPGRADE AND IMPROVE AND TO MAINTAIN THAT ROAD AND IT WILL BENEFIT ALL THAT USE IT.

FOURTH, AND REALLY IMPORTANT, IT'S AN EXHIBIT ZERO IN YOUR APPLICATION PACKAGE.

WE'VE PROVIDED WHAT'S CALLED A PROPERTY VALUE GUARANTEE TO THE TWO RESIDENTS RESIDING IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

IF THEY TRY TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY GET LESS THAN WHAT IT IS WORTH BEFORE THE PROJECT IS BUILT, WE'VE AGREED TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. THERE'S TERMS IN THAT AGREEMENT.

IT'S IN EXHIBIT O. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT WE WE HAVE NEVER DONE THAT WITH ANYONE ELSE.

AND I'M NOT AWARE THAT OTHERS HAVE DONE THAT, BUT BECAUSE THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUE.

WE HAVE OFFERED A PROPERTY VALUE GUARANTEE. AND THEN LAST, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT GROUNDWATER, AND WE'VE AGREED TO TEST GROUNDWATER QUARTERLY.

AND THEN ANNUALLY AFTER OPERATIONS START. AND THAT'S EXCEPTIONAL AS WELL.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY NORMALLY DO THAT. AND IT'LL RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE GRID OF OF ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING.

AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT IN A SLIDE HERE IN A MINUTE.

AND I'M I PROMISE YOU I'M I'M ALMOST DONE. SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S MINIMAL CITIZEN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT. DINWIDDIE HAS 28,576 PEOPLE. THERE ARE SEVEN LANDOWNERS.

MOST OF THEM MAY BE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THEIR PART OF THE PROJECT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.

WE HAVE TWO OWNERS. THE LAST TIME, THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO THAT SHOWED UP THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.

SO WE ASKED THE QUESTION SHOULD WE DECIDE TO APPROVE OR DENY BASED ON TWO RESIDENTS AND DISREGARD SEVEN OTHER LANDOWNERS? FOR THE RECORD, WE STATED THE CONCERNS IN THAT EARLIER SLIDE.

I WON'T BEAT THAT UP. WE BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE 28,000 PLUS CITIZENS THAT DO NOT OPPOSE SOLAR, OR MAY EVEN WANT TO SEE THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE PROJECT MAKES THE COUNTY GREENER, MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT.

AND THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE MORE TAXES. SEVERAL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.

WALKER POND DRIVE. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THIS THROUGH A DEEDED ACCESS.

WE'LL MAINTAIN IT FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. NO COST TO THE NEIGHBORS USING IT.

A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, WHICH IS VERY FAVORABLE.

THERE'S NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT. DESIRE BY ANY NEIGHBOR RESIDENT TO MAKE THE ROAD VDOT COMPLIANT.

DOESN'T NEED TO BE. IT'S LIMITED ACCESS. IT'S PRIVATE.

IT SERVES OUR PROJECT IN THEIR HOMES. DECOMMISSIONING.

THERE'S 21 CONDITIONS IN THE CUP. THEY'LL BE PROVIDED.

THE COMMISSION IS COMMISSION'S VERY STRICT. SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN.

VERY MINIMAL AGRICULTURAL IMPACT. 17 ACRES AT THE 196.

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I MENTIONED TYNDALL EXPANDING. MR. MANSON OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

HE CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF TONIGHT. THE PROJECT PROPERTY IS NOT USABLE BY ANY OTHER PARTY FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES OTHER THAN FLOWERS, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE ACCESSED WITHOUT CROSSING THE RAILROAD OR CROSSING SIGNIFICANT WETLANDS.

I SHOW YOU THE ONE THIRD ABOVE THE WETLANDS, TWO THIRDS BELOW, SO IT'S UNIQUELY POSITIONED GEOGRAPHICALLY CONSTRAINED.

IT HAS ISSUES ON IT THAT MAKE IT VERY LIMITED FOR USE FOR OUR PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THIS SOLAR PROJECT IS IDEAL INDUSTRIAL PROJECT CLOSE TO THE ROAD, WELL SCREENED WILL NOT IMPACT THE WETLANDS.

WE THINK IT'S UNLIKELY A WETLANDS PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED TO BUILD A ROAD ACROSS THAT, AND WE'RE AVOIDING IT.

THE RAILROAD WILL NOT ALLOW ANOTHER CROSSING WITH SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC.

SO A HIGH END USER COULDN'T GET A RAILROAD CROSSING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THAT MANY PEOPLE CROSSING THAT ACCESS.

THEY'RE ALLOWING US BECAUSE IT'S VERY LIMITED USE AS A AS A SOLAR FARM.

AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR NORFOLK SOUTHERN. PROPERTY VALUES A NUMBER OF STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED.

THERE'S NO IMPACT. THE IMPACTS ARE TYPICALLY FELT WHEN THERE ARE VISIBILITY ISSUES.

AND HERE WE ARE COMPLETELY SCREENED IN THE APPLICATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON PROPERTY VALUES.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL TEST WELLS AND QUARTERLY TESTING DURING CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S UNDER CONDITION 11. THERE'LL BE A TCP TEST THAT'S RUN ANNUALLY.

EROSION OF SEDIMENT CONTROL WAS AN ISSUE RAISED.

WE HAVE STRICT STANDARDS FROM DEQ IN THE COUNTY AND THE STATE.

WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE. IF THERE'S A VIOLATION, THEY CAN SHUT US DOWN UNTIL WE ADDRESS THOSE.

SO FINALLY, IN SUMMATION, I MENTIONED THE BENEFITS PROJECT WILL PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER FOR THE NEEDS OF 3500 HOUSEHOLDS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THE PROJECT WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY ELECTRICITY WHEN THERE IS A POWER OUTAGE OR REPAIRS AT THE SUBSTATION.

IT IMPROVES DUNWOODY'S GRID RESILIENCY AND MAKES THE COUNTY MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT.

THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS ARE THERE. 2 MILLION DURING CONSTRUCTION, 3.2 MILLION AFTERWARDS AND A $300,000 ONE TIME CASH PAYMENT.

FRANKLY, WE BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PROJECT WAS GOOD.

WE THINK THE REVISED PROJECT IS EXCELLENT AND THAT IT SHOULD BE EVALUATED ON ITS MERITS.

THE PROJECT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE, WON'T MAKE NOISE, SMELL OR REQUIRE WATER, SEWER OR TRASH SERVICES.

I WOULD URGE THAT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF P 25 EIGHT, AND IF SO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT C25 FOUR IN A MINUTE AND I WOULD ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM THE CITIZENS OR YOURSELF.

AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC MEETING, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LET ME TURN THIS OFF. OKAY. WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOT A QUESTION? YES, SIR. YOU NEED SOME WATER, MAN? DO YOU NEED SOME WATER? THE WATER FOUNTAINS WERE DRY.

I WENT OUT THERE. THERE WAS NO WATER. ON THE SOLAR PANELS.

I MEAN, IN CONSTRUCTION. ARE THEY BONDED TOGETHER OR ARE THEY GROUNDED? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, BUT THEY'RE ON ON A PLATFORM HERE.

THEY'RE SICK. THEY'RE OUT. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE ON A, YOU KNOW, THE PLATFORMS, THE ELECTRIC PLATFORMS GROUNDED CAN'T EXCEED 18FT, AND THEY MOVE WITH THE SUN. SO AND THEY'RE I MEAN, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEM.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF, I MEAN, FOR FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IF SOMEBODY GETS IN.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AS A AS THE FENCE, WILL THE FENCE AROUND IT BE GROUNDED? YES, I'M SURE IT WILL BE. YEAH. YEAH FOR SURE.

YEAH. YEAH. WE GOT TO MEET ALL STANDARDS AND WE BUILT STATE OF THE ART PROJECTS.

SAFETY'S CERTAINLY NUMBER ONE CONCERN I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION TWO. COULD YOU JUST DESCRIBE THE LIMITS OF WHAT YOU'RE INTENDING TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN ON THE PRIVATE ROAD? I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE TO WHERE, HOW LONG A DISTANCE, THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE THE MAP UP AGAIN, BUT IT'S FROM THE ENTRANCE OFF RIVER ROAD PAST THE LAST HOUSE.

SO IT'S REALLY ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE PUBLIC ROAD.

YES. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.

IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND IT'S NOT INEXPENSIVE.

OKAY. NO. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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MR. GOVERNOR, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. CHAIR.

THE FIRST APPLICANT IS ALICIA MANSON. JUST BEFORE YOU COME UP, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE PUBLIC HEARING STATEMENT.

ONCE AGAIN, I'VE ALREADY OPENED PUBLIC HEARING.

IT SAYS THIS PUBLIC HEARING COMMENT TIME IS PROVIDED FOR CITIZENS TO HAVE THEIR VIEWS HEARD.

YOUR COMMENTS DURING THIS TIME MUST BE CONFINED TO THE MATTER OR CASE THAT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE CUMULATIVE OR REPETITIVE.

YOU ARE ASKED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION WITH DECORUM.

LOUD, DISRUPTIVE OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR TO INCLUDE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE SHALL BE AVOIDED.

ALSO, AVOID WORDS OR ACTS, TEND TO EVOKE VIOLENCE OR ARE DEEMED TO BE A BREACH OF THE PEACE.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS TIME IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION OR ANSWER PERIOD, OR A TIME FOR DIALOG WITH THE COMMISSION MEMBERS OR STAFF.

THANK YOU. AND YES, MA'AM, MAY YOU COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS ALICIA MANSON.

MY ADDRESS IS 7016 ANDERSON MILL ROAD, CHURCH ROAD.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS COUNTY SINCE 1984, SINCE I WAS 14 YEARS OLD.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW OLD I AM NOW. YOU JUST HAVE TO GUESS.

HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN A LOT OF COMMUNITY AND THINGS IN THIS COUNTY.

I'M A REGISTERED NURSE. AT A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS THE NURSE MANAGER FOR THE GREATER HEALTH DISTRICT FOR VH AND WORKED A LOT OF TIMES RIGHT THERE IN THAT OFFICE RIGHT THERE, AND DID NOT WORK IN THE PETERSBURG OFFICE.

I AM THE WIFE TO A LANDOWNER, AND I'M I'M SPEAKING TO EXPRESS HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS BOTH TO OUR COUNTY AND TO US AS LANDOWNERS.

I DO RECALL FROM THE LAST MEETINGS THAT THIS WAS DENIED, AND IT WAS FOR CERTAIN RESIDENTS.

AND I UNDERSTAND ANXIETIES AND CONCERNS AND WHATNOT.

BUT THINK ABOUT THE CONCESSIONS THAT YOU HAVE JUST HEARD THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THOSE PERSONS IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER FOR THEM.

AND THINK ABOUT THE LANDOWNER RIGHTS THIS TIME.

THIS TIME. BECAUSE BEFORE THAT REALLY WAS NOT PUSHED FORWARD.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT, AND I REALLY WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.

IN THIS COUNTY, NOT MANY OF US THAT LOOK LIKE US, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY, HAVE THIS MAGNITUDE OF A SOMETHING GOING ON. THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THIS WILL BRING IN REVENUE FOR OUR COUNTY.

MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN AT WORK, AND I HAVE HEARD THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN HELP TO SUPPORT SOME OF OUR STAFFING FOR THINGS THAT FOR DIFFERENT LOCALITIES. THIS WILL HELP WHEREVER THEY PUT THE MONIES.

ANY LITTLE BIT WILL HELP OUR COUNTIES. OUR TAXES ARE GOING UP AND EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH FEDERAL FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANT YOU ALL TO REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER WE'RE BEING SAFE.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO MAKE ANY DETRIMENT TO ANYONE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND I JUST REMINDED YOU WHY I'M A NURSE. AND DO NOT LIKE TO HAVE SICK PEOPLE.

IT'S FUN TO WORK, BUT THESE KIND OF THINGS WILL NOT ANGER, UPSET AND MESS WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES.

THINK OF PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY. ONE IS RIGHT THERE, 25FT FROM THEIR HOUSE.

AND NO ONE IS TURNED PURPLE OR BLUE UP YET. SO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THINK ABOUT.

ALL OF THOSE PROGRESSIVE COUNTIES, PRINCE GEORGE, SUSSEX AND OUT WEST.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? THANK YOU MA'AM.

YES, SIR. TILL THEN. MASON. MASON. MAN. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THIS FAMILY, THIS LAND, HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY SINCE MY GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER.

AND I'M TIED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS NOW. PEOPLE ARE ARGUING ABOUT THE LAND, AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO WITH IT NOW IS TO LET THIS PROJECT COME IN. SO, I MEAN, IT'S ONLY CRIPPLING MY FAMILY BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING.

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AND NO ONE GIVES US ANYTHING FOR THE LAND. BUT THAT'S ALL WE ASK FOR, FOR US TO.

BUT I CAN PASS SOMETHING ON TO MY KIDS. MY GENERATION.

WEALTH OF MY FAMILY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

MR. MANSON, I KNOW YOU'RE A HUNTER. YOU KNOW YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HUNT ON THAT LAND ANYMORE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I'LL GET THAT UP. I HATE IT AS MUCH AS I LOVE TO HUNT.

OKAY, MR. FLOWERS. GOOD EVENING. I'M JAMES LEWIS. I LIVE AT 6811 COURTHOUSE ROAD, CHURCH ROAD, VIRGINIA.

I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT IN THE COUNTY. I OWN PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND I FEEL THAT THE LAND IS SUITED.

AND ACTUALLY, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS SUITED FOR A SOLAR POWER PROJECT.

SO I ALSO HAVE A PERSONAL REASON FOR THIS USING THIS, HAVING THIS PROJECT.

I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT ARE GROWN. ONE, ROBIN IS A IS RAISED HER FAMILY IN DINWIDDIE COUNTY, AND NOW FOR 20 YEARS IT'S BEEN A TEACHER A MIDWIFE.

SECONDLY, I HAVE A REAL SPECIAL ISSUE. MY SECOND DAUGHTER, LIBBY, HAS A BIRD 56 YEARS OLD, HAS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. SHE IS A MICROCEPHALY, AND THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT SHE GOT A SMALL HEAD AND A SMALL BRAIN. THEREFORE, SHE HAS HAD TO HAVE CARE ALL HER ENTIRE LIFE.

SHE CAN'T READ AND WRITE. SHE HAS A HARD TIME GETTING AROUND.

SHE CAN'T TAKE A BATH OR DRESS HERSELF BECAUSE.

SO SHE NEEDS CARE 24/7 OF THE DAY. AND SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. SO ALL THE FUNDS THAT I WOULD RECEIVE IN THIS PROJECT WOULD GO TO LIBBY AND HER MAINTENANCE.

AND FURTHERMORE, I THINK I SAID IT'S OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE AROUND US, SUBDIVISIONS, ALL OF THEM HAVE PROBLEMS, BUT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T ASK ANYTHING FROM THE COUNTY AND ONLY GIVES TO THE CANDIDATE TO WHAT THEY PRODUCE AND THE FUNDS THAT THEY WILL GIVE THE COUNTY. SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S WELL SUITED TO THE PROPERTY.

THE RIGHT OF WAYS HAVE BEEN CLEARED. IT DOESN'T OWNED BY THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT DOESN'T SMELL IT. DON'T MAKE NOISE LIKE THE TRAINS.

IT DOESN'T PUT DUST IN THE AIR LIKE TYNDALL CONCRETE OR LOAM STUFF.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR DINWIDDIE COUNTY.

THANK YOU CINDY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, RESIDENTS AND GUESTS.

I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT THIS WAS OVER. I WASN'T EXPECTING IT TO BE, BUT I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT IT WAS.

AND YET, HERE WE ARE AGAIN. WALKER'S POND DRIVE IS A THREE QUARTER MILE PRIVATE DIRT ROAD.

THIS ROAD IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY OR THE STATE, BUT RATHER BY THE FAMILIES.

AND THERE ARE THREE OF THEM AND ONLY TWO OF THEM ACTUALLY MAINTAIN IT.

MAINTAIN IT. WHEN DRIVING DOWN THE DIRT ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO CROSS A CREEK THAT IS ONLY ABLE TO BE TRAVERSED BY THE PIECES OF DRIVEWAY PIPE SPANNING THE WATER. NOW, THIS CROSSING, THIS DRIVEWAY PIPE IS NOT PROVIDED, NOT MAINTAINED BY THE STATE OR THE COUNTY. THIS DRIVEWAY PIPE IS NOT ENGINEERED TO HANDLE THE WEAR, TEAR AND PROLONGED USE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT SUCH AS THE KIND.

NECESSARY IN ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING A SOLAR FARM OPERATION.

THIS ROAD IS THE ONE AND ONLY ACCESS TO OUR HOMES.

NOW YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE TWO FAMILIES AT THE END ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

NOW, I'VE READ THE AGREEMENT OFFERED BY THE SOLAR COMPANY, OR AT LEAST THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR.

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BUT I DO WONDER WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE PROMISES THAT THEY'RE MAKING.

I ASK YOU TO PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE REZONING THIS LAND.

PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR LAND THAT WAS GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY SOLAR FARMS. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR. WELL, WATER THAT WAS GOING TO BE POISONED BY SOLAR FARM RUNOFF? WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE FULL EFFECT SOLAR FARMS HAVE TO OUR LAND, TO OUR WATER SUPPLY OR OUR ENVIRONMENT.

WE JUST REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT THEY ASK YOU TO ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

VOTE NO TO THE REZONING ASSOCIATED WITH CASE P 25, DASH EIGHT AND C 25 DASH FOR BE GOOD STEWARDS TO OUR COUNTY'S BEAUTIFUL RURAL LANDS.

THANK YOU. KEITH BELVILLE. GOOD EVENING.

I'M NOT A VERY GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT NAME AND ADDRESS.

PLEASE, SIR, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? KEITH BELLEVILLE, 20804 COX ROAD, SABLAN, VIRGINIA.

THANK YOU. MY GRANDFATHER BOUGHT THIS LAND IN 1910.

IN 1915, NORFOLK WESTERN PUT IN A SECOND TRACK, TOOK SOME OF THE LAND.

IN THE LATE 60S, VDOT CAME AND TOOK A MAJOR PORTION OF OUR LAND TO BUILD WESTBOUND FOR 60.

IN THE 70S, VIRGINIA POWER PUT IN A TRANSMISSION LINE.

IN THE 80S, SOUTHSIDE ELECTRIC CAME AND PUT ANOTHER ONE IN.

THEN CAME WALMART. I USED TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT LISTENING TO THE COWS AND IRRIGATION.

NOW IT'S, ER, WRENCHES BACK UP, ALARMS, HORNS BLOWING.

JAKE BRAKES. THEN THAT WAS TEN. NOW IS THE SPORTS COMPLEX.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M JUST. THE POINT IS, THINGS CHANGE, RIGHT? NOTHING STAYS THE SAME. THIS PROJECT HERE, I.

I DON'T HAVE A I'VE BEEN DOING CONSTRUCTION ALL MY LIFE.

I DON'T HAVE A PENSION. I'M GOING TO RELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

THIS PROJECT WILL SUPPLEMENT MY RETIREMENT, WHICH I'M GETTING CLOSE TO.

LET ME SEE. I DON'T SEE HOW TWO PEOPLE CAN DENY MY HAPPINESS AND PROSPERITY AND DENY ME WHAT I WOULD SEE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT Y'ALL SHOULD APPROVE THIS PROJECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. KEVIN WALKER.

HEY, KEVIN. GOOD EVENING. 20803 RIVER ROAD, SUTHERLAND.

I AM A WALKER. WALKER'S POND IS WHERE MY GRANDMOTHER FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET THAT ROAD NAMED AFTER HER IN THE FAMILY.

MY GRANDMOTHER. I AM ASKED TO THAT ROAD AND TO THE LAND THAT IS ON THAT PROPERTY.

I REALLY AS MANY AS SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE SAID THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MY FAMILY WITH THIS, AND I SPEAK FOR ALL OF THEM. HOWEVER, I DO PAY ALL THE TAXES ON THE LAND.

SOME OF MY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE NOT AS FORTUNATE AS I AM.

HOWEVER, I'M KIND OF IN A SITUATION THAT SOME OTHERS WHERE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I CAN REALLY DO WITH THE PROPERTY.

RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE IT'S IN A GREAT LOCATION. MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN MY GRANDMOTHER'S WISHES AT THE TIME, BECAUSE BACK THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS 30, 40 YEARS AGO.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED. SO I DEFINITELY FEEL THE PROJECT WILL WILL BE PROSPEROUS FOR ESPECIALLY MY FAMILY AND THE HEIRS IN MY FAMILY FOR LONGEVITY. WHETHER THE CASE MAY BE AND THEY CAN PASS IT ON ETC., BUT I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU OR THAT YOU ARE TO AT LEAST THINK ABOUT IT AND CONSIDER CHANGES RIGHT THERE ALWAYS CHANGES WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU GO THROUGH IN LIFE AND EVEN ON YOUR PERSONAL LIFE.

BUT I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE AREA, THE COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES WILL

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BUT TO GET STARTED IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, BELINDA INGE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

MA'AM, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? BELINDA ENGE, 21, 113 WALKERS POND DRIVE.

THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE SOLAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT PLANT TO TALK ABOUT IN CHESTERFIELD.

THE DOMINION IS TALKING ABOUT DOING. I THINK SOLAR IS KIND OF GOING OUT THE WAY BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND IT WAS BEING PUSHED BY THE GREEN ENERGY DEAL, WHICH IS SUBSIDIZED BY GOVERNMENT FUNDS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING AWAY WITH WITH THINGS WITH THE GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING.

ALSO, I FEAR ABOUT OUR WATER. WE HAVE TWO CREEKS, ONE IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY.

ONE ON MY PROPERTY GOES BEHIND US WHILE US CREEK AND THE RUNOFF FROM THAT THAT GOES DOWN TO THAT RIVER.

AND HE SAID HE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPANY SAID HE WOULD TEST THE WATER.

WELL, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT MY.

WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, ABOUT TESTING IT.

HOW WILL I KNOW? IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT GOING TO CONTAMINATE WELL, THE CHEMICALS FROM THE SOLAR PANELS.

I LIKE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION. ALSO, WE LIVE AT THE VERY END OF WALKER'S POND, WHICH IS 8/10 OF A MILE.

WE MAINTAIN THAT ROAD. WE'VE ROCKED IT. WE'VE CUT THE GRASS DOWN THE SIDES OF IT, CUT THE TREES BACK.

AND IT'S ONLY TWO FAMILIES THAT DO THAT. THE TWO OF US.

AND THEY SAID HE MENTIONED A ROAD AGREEMENT. WHAT ROAD AGREEMENT? HOW YOU CAN MAINTAIN IT? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT. THEY HAVE THOSE BIG TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT.

WE HAVE NO WAY WE IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG GETTING GRANDKIDS AND AND APPOINTMENTS.

AND I REALLY FEEL FOR OUR WAY OF GETTING IN AND OUT.

ALSO, WE REPLACE THE PIPES UNDER THE ROAD WHERE THE CREEK IS AND WE BOUGHT THE PIPES.

WE IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR HEAVY TRUCKS COMING IN THERE.

WE DID THIS ABOUT MAYBE TEN, 12 YEARS AGO. SO OUR CONCERN WITH THAT WITH BIG TRUCKS WHAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT AND HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET OUT WITH CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT COMING IN ON FLATBEDS.

PLUS, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE. WE HAVE A LOT OF DEER, TURKEY AND OCCASIONAL BEAR THAT I ENJOY WATCHING, GOING OUT AND LOOKING, AND I'M CONCERNED FOR THAT.

TAKE OUR FARMLAND AND OUR WOODLAND AWAY. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR WILDLIFE? WE JUST KEEP MOVING OUT. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITIES, THEY JUST KEEP PUSHING OUT.

THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE. ALSO A PROPERTY VALUE.

HE THE REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED IF IT GOES DOWN, THEY WOULD REIMBURSE FOR THE DIFFERENCE.

ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET A VALUE FOR OUR HOUSE NOW, WHICH I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER PROPERTIES.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT THE COMPANY PAYING US A DIFFERENCE AND WHAT COULD SELL IT FOR AND WHAT IT WOULD SELL FOR BECAUSE OF WHO WANTS TO LIVE WITH ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND SOLAR PANELS.

ALSO, I SEE WHERE THE SOLAR PANELS HEAT UP THE ENVIRONMENT TEN DEGREES AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T NEED THAT IN THE SUMMERTIME.

IT'S VERY HOT IN DINWIDDIE VERY HUMID. AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOME OF THE THE COMPANIES AGREEMENTS THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THEM KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

BUT I DO ASK THAT YOU TURN IT DOWN. WE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR ALMOST 36 YEARS, AND THAT'S MY HOME.

I WORKED ALL MY LIFE FOR THAT. AND WE WORK HARD TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION COMING IN.

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MR. CHAIR, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN?. JUST. JUST ONE MINUTE, SIR.

SOMEONE ELSE. COME ON. NO, YOU. YOU CAN COME FORWARD, SIR.

IT WAS YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT ROBERT WARD.

23900 CUP PARK ROAD, MCKINNEY. I WASN'T HERE FOR THIS.

I DIDN'T COME HERE FOR THIS. I CAME FOR A DIFFERENT THING. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I DISAGREE WITH THAT THEY'VE SAID.

AND LIKE THE OTHER A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD.

THEY DON'T SAY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.

THEY DON'T SAY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO IT.

AND WHAT ABOUT EMERGENCIES, EMERGENCY ACCESS TO IT? WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THEM CATCHES ON FIRE? YOU EVER SEE A SOLAR FIELD FIRE? I'VE SEEN THEM ON THE NEWS. THEY SPREAD RAPIDLY.

AND IT. YOU KNOW HOW HOW DO THEY PLAN ON ON TAKING CARE OF THAT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE? THE FARMLAND THAT'S UP THERE. WILL THAT BE ABLE TO BE FARMED AFTER THE SOLAR FIELD GOES UP? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU GOTTA GOT TO LOOK AT, TOO.

AND THEY SAID 900FT FROM THE PROPERTY. THAT GOES BACK TO THE EMERGENCY THING.

900FT IS NOT FAR WHEN A RAPID FIRE IS SHOOTING THROUGH THE AREA.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN FOREST FIRES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEY SPREAD VERY RAPID.

AND MY OTHER THING IS, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT TWO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T MATTER OVER OVER OTHER PEOPLE.

EVERYBODY MATTERS. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T THINK OF ONE SAY ONE COMPANY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFELONG RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR INPUT TO THAT.

WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THIS LAND RIGHT BY THIS LAND, ON THIS ROAD.

AND IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT THEM A LOT. YOU SHOULD TAKE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST QUICK NOTES THAT I TOOK.

I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING. OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE HAD A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE, AND I.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD PUT THIS INTO OUR COUNTY.

WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN HARVILLE, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. AGAIN WE BELIEVE THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL SEPARATION BETWEEN OUR PROJECT AND THE TWO RESIDENTS THAT YOU HEARD FROM TONIGHT. AT LEAST 900 AND 630FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THEN ANOTHER 75 FOOT BUFFER.

TO ADDRESS THE ROAD. WE PROVIDED A VERY DETAILED ROAD MAINTENANCE AMENDMENT.

THERE'S A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IN PLACE CURRENTLY BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT LAST YEAR IS VERY SUBSTANTIAL.

WE'VE UPDATED THAT AND THAT WAS PROVIDED AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION.

EXCUSE ME. WE'RE ALSO WILLING TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION IF WE NEED TO, TO PUT IT INTO THE CONDITION THAT WE WOULD DO THE UPGRADES THE ROAD NEEDS UPGRADING. IT'S GRAVEL, IT'S GOT POOR CROSSING ON THE CREEK, AND WE WOULD SPEND SUBSTANTIAL MONEY TO UPGRADE AND MAINTAIN THAT ROAD, AND THEY WOULD BE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION.

I'M VERY CONFIDENT THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WORK OUT ON NOT IMPEDING THOSE THAT NEED TO GET IN AND OUT, SO IT'LL BE SAFE AT ALL TIMES. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, WATER.

I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO DO TESTING BEFOREHAND QUARTERLY DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN ONCE A YEAR THEREAFTER, WHICH EXCEEDS ANY REQUIREMENTS NORMALLY REQUIRED.

TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN WELL WATER.

WE'RE NOT NOT AWARE OF IMPACTS THAT COULD OCCUR, BUT IF THEY SHOW UP IN THE WELLS, THEN WE'D HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL IS CONTROLLED BY DEQ, THE COUNTY AND OTHER REGULATORY AGENCIES.

SO WE'D HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

MISS INGE MENTIONED THE FACT THAT SOLAR IS NO LONGER NECESSARILY NEEDED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY BEING PRODUCED, PARTICULARLY IN VIRGINIA, COAL USED TO BE 60%.

IT'S DOWN TO 3%. RENEWABLES ARE NOW ABOUT 8%.

NATURAL GAS OBVIOUSLY STILL THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE FOR ENERGY PRODUCTION.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE NUCLEAR AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

BUT THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE RENEWABLES, WHICH ARE SOLAR AND WIND,

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CONDITION 11 IN OUR SEP ADDRESSES, THE WATER AND THE ROAD AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AS WELL.

WE CAN PUT THAT IN AS A CONDITION. IF THIS BOARD OR THIS COMMISSION OR THE BOARD DESIRES THAT TO OCCUR.

I THINK THOSE WERE THE MAIN POINTS I HEARD, AND I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND I WOULD ASK AND URGE THAT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING.

DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK A COMMENT TO TO THE APPLICANT? I MEAN, YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT IN THE CONDITIONS TO SATISFY WHAT THESE LANDOWNERS AROUND YOU ARE SAYING THEIR ISSUES ARE. ABSOLUTELY. WE WE PROPOSED THE AGREEMENT BUT DIDN'T GET ANY TRACTION ON OR INTEREST IN ENTERING INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

THE INTEREST WAS TO DEFEAT THE PROJECT AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT WE PUT ON THE TABLE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND WE STAND BEHIND THAT.

IT'S ACTUALLY IMPROVED SINCE LAST TIME AND OTHER SAFEGUARDS.

YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO IMPACT OR HURT ANYBODY.

WE THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PROJECT, WELL SCREENED.

AND AND WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD IT PROPERLY.

SO. I'M FINE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC. YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK HIM A QUESTION OR TWO.

WHAT IS THE QUESTION? WELL, IT'S ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ONE FOR THIS YEAR. AND THE ONE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE REQUIRING US TO SIGN IT AND HAVE IT NOTARIZED BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEIR MINDSET WAS ON THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE AS PART OF THE CONDITION.

AND ALSO THE WATER TESTING AND THE EMERGENCY OF TWO THINGS AND ALSO THE WATER TESTING.

ARE YOU GOING TO COME AND TEST MY WELL WATER EACH TIME, SO THAT I KNOW THAT MY WATER IS SAFE? AND CAN I GET A COPY OF THE RESULTS, OR IS THAT GOING TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THE FOX GUARDING THE HOUSE? YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD ON TO THE RESULTS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW ANYTHING.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND ALSO BACK TO SOMETHING HE SAID, IF IF THERE'S WHAT'S YOUR EMERGENCY CONTINGENCY IF THERE'S A FIRE THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WE'RE CLOSE. AND AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IRONED OUT.

NO, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL PROPER ISSUES. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THE ROAD MAINTENANCE IS IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD, SO THE OWNERS ON THAT ROAD HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.

ONE PARTY CAN'T MANDATE TO THE OTHER, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS PROPOSED.

BUT THERE WAS NO REAL RESPONSE BACK TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMITMENT TO TAKE UP THE IMPROVEMENT.

AND THE MAINTENANCE IS STILL ON THE TABLE. AND ACTUALLY, IT'S IT'S BETTER THAN IT WAS.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU READ THAT AGREEMENT, WE'RE TAKING ON ALL THE COST AND RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S REALLY A BENEFIT TO YOU ALL.

SO I SHOULD SAY SAY THAT YOU SHOULD DO THAT WITHOUT SAYING SIGN THIS AND HAVE IT NOTARIZED BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S JUST CHEESY.

I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO MR. DRURY'S ATTORNEY. YOU CAN CONFIRM FOR ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT AGREEMENT SIGNED AND NOTARIZED, BECAUSE THE LAST ONE WAS AND IT'S JUST A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUSH IT ON ANYBODY. MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD STOP THE CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH AND MOVE ON, IF Y'ALL GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM, I THINK THANK YOU. HEARD THE CONCERNS AND AND.

YES. ANY ANYTHING THAT'S BINDING ON THE LAND HAS TO BE RECORDED AT THE COURTHOUSE AND HAS TO BE RECORDED NOTARIZED.

SO I'M JUST NOT ADDRESSING THE WATER. I BELIEVE, AND MR. BASSETT CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WE'D PUT MONITORING WELLS AROUND THE PROPERTY AND READ THOSE READINGS.

THAT'S HOW WE DO A BENCHMARK ON THE WHOLE PROJECT. YOU CIRCLE IT WITH MONITORING WELLS.

IF MISS HARVILLE WANTS US TO TEST HER. WELL, MY CLIENT'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAR REACH.

IF THAT WOULD GIVE HER SOME ADDITIONAL COMFORT, I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE WILLING TO DO THAT. MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. AND THEN LASTLY ON THE EMS, THE FIRE SAFETY ISSUES, THOSE ARE ALSO IN THE APPLICATION AND IN THE CONDITIONS.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST MISS HARVILLE, MISS, AND TO GET OUR APPLICATION.

IT'S PRETTY THICK, BUT IT HAS A LOT OF ASSURANCES AND CONDITIONS ON THAT.

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AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE AWARE OF THOSE AND WE'RE CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING THEM.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND WE HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM MR. WALKER WHO OWNS THE PRIVATE ROAD AS WELL FOR THE NIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO THE PUBLIC TO TO ME TO INTERJECT SOMETHING INTO THIS CONVERSATION. MANY YEARS AGO, THIS ROAD WE CALL WALKERS ON THE ADJOINING LAND OWNERS DO IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED A PUBLIC ROAD. AND JEFF SIGNED OFF TO THE COUNTY THAT IN THE STATE THAT A PUBLIC ROAD WOULD BE PUT ON THIS THROUGH THIS PROPERTY PROPERTIES.

IN OTHER WORDS, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE ROAD, THAT IT'S THERE, THEORETICALLY YOU CHECK IT. THE COUNTY OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND THIS RIGHT AWAY INTO THIS PROPERTY.

NOW. MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS AND CERTAINLY WE APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS. I'M NOT TRYING TO DENY THIS.

I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL'S A PLANNING COMMISSION CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND OR NOT RECOMMEND.

YOU CAN TABLE IT. YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS, AND I JUST WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT THIS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A RECOMMENDATION BOARD. THERE'S STILL TIME TO IRON OUT WHAT Y'ALL'S CONCERNS ARE WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING, WHERE THE OFFICIAL DECISION IS MADE. SO. SO THERE'S STILL TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SIR. AND I WANTED TO REMIND THE PUBLIC OF THAT TOO.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO ASCERTAIN A PROMOTE A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

ON THIS MATTER, ON THIS CASE. OH.

YEAH. THAT'S ALL. YEAH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I MAKE SOME COMMENTS, PLEASE, BEFORE WE DO A MOTION? GO AHEAD. I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO BOTH AND LISTENING TO IT.

BUT THERE'S ONE THING THAT STICKS OUT TO ME, AND I THINK I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT TO THIS GROUP BEFORE.

THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS FOR A REASON. YES, IT'S A GUIDE, BUT IT'S FOR A REASON.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT TELLS US WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AS I EXPLAINED TO THIS COMMITTEE, WHEN I WENT TO VCU AND TOOK THAT CLASS AT ALL COSTS, YOU SHOULD STAY WITH YOUR PLAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S AS NEW AS IT IS. I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PLAN WAS PUT HERE AND PUT TOGETHER, AND IT WAS ALMOST TO THE END. IT'S TENDER, BUT TO GO OUTSIDE THAT PLAN NOW, I JUST CAN'T DO IT.

I JUST WENT TO THE OTHER BOARD.

CAN WE GET A MOTION? I'LL READ IT. BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSUME COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION SIX.

EIGHT. SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.

I MOVE THAT REZONING REQUEST DASH 25-8 PRESENTED TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SECOND. MR. SIMMONS. FOR DISAPPROVAL? NO. MR.. CUNNINGHAM. NO. MR. LANGLEY.

YES. MR. TITMUS. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARBOR.

NO. REMEMBERS. APPROVE. REMEMBERS. DISAPPROVE.

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WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT CASE WHEN I GET THERE. READY? OVER THERE. OKAY. I THINK FOR THOSE WHO ARE, IF IT'S DENIED, WE'VE BEEN HEARING THE SECOND CASE. LET'S LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

SO IT'S TIME RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S JUST AS GOOD AS A DENIAL.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

YEAH I GUESS WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AN ODD NUMBER, BUT WE'RE READY FOR OUR NEXT CASE.

YEAH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH, YEAH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AS I INDICATED EARLIER NOW WE WILL BE HEARING THE HAVE HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT P DASH 25 DASH FOR THE APPLICATION AND BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS ARE THE SAME AS WE WENT OVER FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION, SO I WON'T GO BACK OVER THOSE.

THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE REZONING AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND ALL THE ATTACHMENTS ARE SAME ARE THE SAME FOR BOTH APPLICATIONS.

WHAT I DID WANT TO DO WAS ESPECIALLY WITH COMMENTS WE RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING, WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THESE CONDITIONS. JUST LIKE A REZONING. VERY SIMILAR.

THOSE WOULD. IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS APPROVED, THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE CARRY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND WOULD BE ENFORCED BY THE COUNTY. SO I'LL START WITH THE AGAIN SUMMARIZING THE CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE CONDITION ONE THAT BASICALLY JUST LIMITS THE USE OF THE SITE FOR THE PROJECT.

BASICALLY JUST LIMITS DESCRIBES THE PROJECT AND LIMITS IT TO THE SOLAR ENERGY PROJECT BEING A 20 MEGAWATT ALTERNATING CURRENT, GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR VOLTAIC, VOLTAIC ELECTRIC GENERATING FACILITY, WHICH WE REFER TO THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT AS THE PROJECT. WE JUST DESCRIBED THE PROJECT SITE.

IT'S LIMITED TO THE THE FIVE TAX MAP PARCELS AND LIMITED TO THE 196 ACRES.

ALSO IN THAT CONDITION ONE EVERYTHING IS TIED TO THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

THAT THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS STAFF HAS BEEN SHOWING AS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

ALSO THERE'S CONDITIONS RELATED TO AGAIN, TYING IT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

WE TALK ABOUT STUDIES AND PLANS AS PART OF THAT.

AND JUST WANTED TO INDICATE WHAT THOSE ARE SET FORTH IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THERE WOULD BE A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THE APPLICANT WOULD WOULD SUBMIT THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ITEM, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND HOURS OF OPERATION.

PROJECT ACCESS, PLANNING FOR EACH ENTRY TO THE PROJECT AND ANY REQUIRED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

PROJECT SECURITY MEASURES TO BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE SOLAR FACILITIES.

DUST MITIGATION AND ANY BURNING OPERATIONS AND HANDLING OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLAINTS VIA A PROJECT LIAISON.

ALSO WITHIN THE CONDITIONS, THERE'S A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE A PROJECT LIAISON THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNTY STAFF WOULD HAVE AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.

ANOTHER PLAN THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED WITH AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE A CONSTRUCT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND A TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN AND ROAD REPAIR PLAN.

AND THAT'S DESCRIBED IN DETAIL. AND WOULD ALSO BE HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY VDOT.

AND DOES DISCUSS A ROAD REPAIR PLAN. AND DOES INDICATE THAT ROAD REPAIRS WOULD HAVE TO BE AGREED TO

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AND AND THEN ALSO UPON DECOMMISSIONING. THEY WOULD BE CATALOGED AS WELL, BUT ANY REPAIRS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. ALSO, THERE'D BE A LANDSCAPING PLAN SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S DETAILED. ONE ITEM IMPORTANT TO COUNTY STAFF AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING PLANS CONCERNED.

THERE WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLAR LANDSCAPING BOND THAT WOULD BE POSTED FOR TEN YEARS.

TO ENSURE MAINTENANCE OF THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WITH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN ITSELF.

WE ALSO ADDRESS BUILDING AND ELECTRICAL PLANS THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE DINWIDDIE COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL. WE ALSO DISCUSSED FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND HISTORIC SURVEY STUDIES.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE WETLAND AND STREAM DELINEATIONS.

PRELIMINARY JURISDICTIONAL DETERMINATION FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

A THREATENED AND ENDANGERED SPECIES HABITAT ASSESSMENT.

PHASE ONE ARCHEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SURVEY OF THE PROJECT AS WELL.

AND THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY DEQ, AS WELL AS PART OF DICK APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

THERE ALSO WOULD BE LIABILITY INSURANCE CERTIFICATE ON FILE FOR THE PROJECT AS WELL.

WE DISCUSSED THE GRADING PLAN AND THAT WOULD BE HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL PLAN.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. ALL THOSE PLANS DO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY.

BEFORE THE PROJECT SITE PLAN IS IS APPROVED. WE TALK ABOUT REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THIRD PARTY REVIEWS AND INSPECTIONS. THE COUNTY THERE WOULD BE $50,000 PER YEAR FOR ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROVISION AND OR EMPLOYMENT OF OUTSIDE EXPERTS AND CONSULTANTS NECESSARY TO REVIEW SPECIFIC TECHNICAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROJECT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY'S EXPERTISE OR FOR WHICH THE COUNTY HAS INADEQUATE FULL TIME STAFF IN THE COUNTY'S SOLE DISCRETION.

SO THERE ARE FUNDS AS PART OF THIS CONDITION? THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY IF NEEDED.

AGAIN, FOR THIRD PARTY EXPERTS. CONSULTANTS. ON SITE EROSION AND STORMWATER CONTROL INSPECTOR REIMBURSEMENT.

AS THE PROJECTS DEVELOPED THERE WOULD BE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE COUNTY FOR INSPECTIONS ON THE SITE UP TO TEN HOURS PER WEEK.

ALSO ONGOING INSPECTIONS, REIMBURSEMENT. THE APPLICANT AGREES TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR UP TO THE ACTUAL COSTS OF EMPLOYEE TIME FOR INSPECTION AND OTHER PERMIT COMPLIANCE DUTIES FOR THE PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED 40 HOURS IN ANY CALENDAR YEAR DURING THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

TO OFFSET COSTS TO THE COUNTY OF INSPECTIONS AND OTHER PERMIT COMPLIANCE DUTIES.

DURING THIS TIME, THE COUNTY SHALL SUBMIT TO THE APPLICANT INVOICES FOR SUCH COSTS NOT LESS THAN QUARTERLY, AND SUCH INVOICES SHALL BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIPT.

SO THOSE ARE ONGOING INSPECTIONS AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

NOT TO BE INCLUDED. THESE WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO DO FOR INSPECTIONS, FOR SITE INSPECTIONS, FOR EROSION, SEDIMENT CONTROL AND STORMWATER CONTROLS.

THEN WE TIE EVERYTHING TO THE SITE PLAN AS WELL AS A CONDITION CONDITION SIX, THE PROJECT MAY HAVE THE ACCESS AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN AND TRAFFIC PLAN MAP AND EXHIBIT H OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT ACCESS SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED TO THE PROJECT FROM THE WESTERNMOST ENTRANCE LOCATED ON ROUTE 460 COX ROAD.

ALSO, ROUTE 708 NAMSAN ROAD SHALL NOT BE USED AS A HAUL ROAD AND SHALL NOT BE USED TO ACCESS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE, AND THEN THIS MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING.

THE OWNER OPERATOR WILL ENSURE THAT WALKER'S POND DRIVE SHALL BE MAINTAINED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES TO ENSURE

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ALL LIGHTING WILL HAVE TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT, SHIELDED AWAY FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND POSITIONED DOWNWARD AND INWARD TO THE SITE TO MINIMIZE LIGHT SPILLAGE ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THEN WE HAVE A CONDITION ALLOWING ACCESS AND INSPECTIONS TO THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO ACCESS AND INSPECT THE SITE.

TRAINING IS ADDRESSED. THE APPLICANT SHALL ARRANGE A TRAINING SESSION WITH THE DINWIDDIE COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS TO FAMILIARIZE PERSONNEL WITH ISSUES UNIQUE TO A SOLAR FACILITY BEFORE OPERATIONS BEGIN, AND SHALL REPEAT SUCH TRAINING ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, NOT TO EXCEED ONCE PER YEAR. COMPLIANCE. WE JUST HAVE THE OUR GENERAL COMPLIANCE CONDITION IN THERE THAT THE PROJECT SHALL BE DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED AND TESTED TO MEET ALL RELEVANT LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL STANDARDS IS APPLICABLE.

THERE IS A CONDITION RELATED TO GROUNDWATER GROUNDWATER MONITORING.

AGAIN, THE GROUNDWATER GROUNDWATER MONITORING SHALL TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO AND UPON COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

THERE WOULD BE AN ESTABLISHED BASELINE WATER QUALITY REPORT PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND GROUNDWATER MONITORING SHALL TAKE PLACE EVERY QUARTER FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN ONCE EACH YEAR OF OPERATION OF THE PROJECT, AND AGAIN ALSO UPON COMPLETION OF DECOMMISSIONING OF THE PROJECT.

WE TALK ABOUT CONDITION 12, AGRICULTURAL USE VALUE PROGRAM, AND APPLICABLE TAXES AND FEES FOR ANY PROJECT PARCEL THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE AGRICULTURAL USE VALUE PROGRAM FOR THE DURING THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

ALL PENALTIES AND INTEREST PAYMENTS THAT ARE DUE TO THE COUNTY WHEN SUCH PROJECT PARCELS ARE REMOVED FROM THE AGRICULTURAL USE VALUE PROGRAM WILL BE PAID WHEN DUE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGRICULTURAL USE VALUE PROGRAM.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO NOTE CONDITION 14 COVERS DECOMMISSIONING AND GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE DECOMMISSIONING.

IT'S VERY DETAILED IN THE IN THE CONDITIONS. WHAT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE AS PART OF DECOMMISSIONING, DECOMMISSIONING OF THE PROJECT? WE GO THROUGH PERMITS AND REPORTS AS WELL.

REGULAR REPORTS PRIOR TO THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION DATE OF THE PROJECT, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A REPORT ANNUALLY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OUTLINING THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT.

AFTER THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION DATE, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT AN ANNUAL OPERATIONAL REPORT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AND AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT ALL FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL PERMITS HAVE TO BE OBTAINED.

AND THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS EFFECTIVE ONLY UPON RECEIPT BY THE DINWIDDIE COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT OF ALL SUCH PERMITS.

AND COPIES OF VIOLATIONS AND OR REPORTS TO OR FROM APPLICABLE FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES SHALL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO DINWIDDIE COUNTY UPON REQUEST OF THE COUNTY. AGAIN, I HAD MENTIONED THE STAFF REPORT THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROJECT LIAISON ASSIGNED TO THE PROJECT.

AND PROJECT 16 OUTLINES THE DUTIES AND ROLES OF THAT PROJECT LIAISON.

WE ALSO CONDITION 17. AGAIN, WE HIGHLIGHT THAT THE PROJECT HAS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL RELEVANT LAWS RELATED TO THE SOLAR FACILITY PROJECT. A CONDITION 18 JUST OUTLINES THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, TO BE SURE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE CONDITIONAL USE SPURNED THAT.

CONDITION 19 TALKS ABOUT VIOLATIONS AND REVOCATION RELATED TO THE PROJECT.

WE GO OVER STOP WORK ORDERS, HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED, AND EXTENDED VIOLATIONS AND POTENTIAL FOR CFP REVOCATION. AND THEN THE LAST CONDITION JUST OUTLINES ENSURES THAT ALL SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS FOR THE PROJECT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

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I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC CONDITION RELATED TO A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE ENTERED INTO BY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY UTILIZING WALKER'S POND DRIVE.

THAT COULD BE A CONDITION THAT'S RECOMMENDED THAT BE MADE PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? THERE'S ALSO MENTION OF THE PROPERTY VALUE GUARANTEE.

THAT IS AN ATTACHMENT IN THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION.

THAT COULD BE MADE A CONDITION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS WELL.

OR RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE MADE A CONDITION. AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I HEARD WAS, WELL, TESTING ON THE ENGINE HARVILLE PROPERTIES. THAT COULD BE MADE A CONDITION AS WELL.

AS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MISTER CHAIR.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE CONDITIONS OR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.

NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU.

MISTER. SO, MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON. LET ME SEE IF THE COMMISSION'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AS WELL.

I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT WENT ON. I WAS HUDDLED OVER HERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THESE BYLAWS THAT EVERY COMMISSION, EVERY BOARD HAS IN EACH LOCALITY HAS A DIFFERENT SET OF BYLAWS.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS SAYING CORRECTLY.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BOARD. IF THERE'S A TIE VOTE AT THE AT A GOVERNING BODY'S DECISION, YOU'VE GOT TO RESOLVE THAT BECAUSE THE TIE VOTE IS A DENIAL OF THE MOTION.

SINCE THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION, SAY JUST IS A RECOMMENDATION BOARD.

IT WILL GO THROUGH TO THE BOARD AS A TIE AS A TIE VOTE.

TYPICALLY WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS. ONE MEMBER IS ABSENT TONIGHT.

HENCE THE REASON FOR ODD NUMBER OF MEMBERS. SO YOU DON'T HAVE MANY TIE VOTES.

BUT TONIGHT WE HAD ONE. THE FIRST WAS ON THE REZONING.

ZONING. SO IT WOULD GO FORTH TO THE BOARD, AS I SAID, JUST AS A TIE VOTE.

SO THERE REALLY IS NO RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS ON THE CONDITIONS AND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO A VOTE.

A VOTE YES TO THE CONDITIONS MEANS THAT Y'ALL THINK THAT IF THE BOARD DOES APPROVE THIS, THAT THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS, YOU WANT TO SEE A VOTE. NO MEANS YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE CONDITIONS ARE ADEQUATE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU UNDERSTAND ME THAT A YES OR NO TO THE REZONING.

IT MEANS. DO YOU THINK THESE CONDITIONS ARE ADEQUATE? AND I WANT TO SAY THAT TO THE PUBLIC, TOO. SO THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS.

IF IT ACTUALLY DID GET APPROVED AT THE BOARD, THAT WOULD GO FORTH TO THE BOARD TELLING THEM WHETHER YOU THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION THINKS THAT THESE CONDITIONS ARE ADEQUATE. SO THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADD CONDITIONS.

AND EVEN AFTER THE NIGHT, THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE COUNTY TO REQUIRE MORE CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT. SO, AND AT THE BOARD LEVEL, RIGHT ON UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BOARD LEVEL.

BEFORE THEY VOTE. IT'S ALWAYS TIME TO ADD MORE PROTECTIONS IF YOU UNDERSTAND.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THE REZONING. AND THEN IF IT DID GET APPROVED, THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD TIE TO THE TO THE PROPERTY.

IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED, IF THE REZONING DOESN'T GET APPROVED AT THE BOARD LEVEL, THEN THE CONDITIONS IS THEY WON'T VOTE ON THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN IF Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AS I SAID, WE WERE HUDDLED OVER HERE MAKING SURE THAT THE BYLAWS DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I'VE LEARNED THAT BETTER. LOOK, YOU KNOW, SO BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. THANKS. YES. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HARVILLE AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS STEVE ROMINE.

I AM A LOCAL ATTORNEY REPRESENTING GREENVILLE FLOWER SOLAR LLC IN THIS APPLICATION FOR A USE PERMIT C 25 FOUR.

I WILL NOT BE REDUNDANT. I WILL NOT REPRESENT EVERYTHING WE DID IN THE FIRST REZONING HEARING, BUT I DO WANT TO HIT A FEW HIGHLIGHTS. FIRST POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THE 20 CONDITIONS I BELIEVE ARE VERY THOROUGH, VERY ADEQUATE, VERY COMPLETE AND SOMEWHAT STANDARD ON THESE APPLICATIONS.

THEY COVER A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS. MR. BASSETT WENT OVER.

I'LL POINT OUT THREE CONDITIONS. JUST AS A POINT.

CONDITION SIX WAS WHERE WE SAID THAT WE WOULD MAINTAINING THE CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION, MAINTENANCE TO ENSURE SAFE INGRESS ON WALKER POND DRIVE.

CLEARLY, IF WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN THAT CONDITION, TO INCORPORATE BY REFERENCE THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE OFFERED,

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YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY OFFER IT. WE CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO TAKE IT.

SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE AN AMENDMENT THERE IF NECESSARY.

CONDITION NINE. REFERENCES. TRAINING. THIS WOULD BE A PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY.

FOR SAFETY ISSUES, WE TRAIN FIRE EMS ON ANYTHING THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT.

WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY. CONDITION 11 TALKED ABOUT GROUNDWATER.

AND TO MR. BASSETT'S POINT, IF IN FACT THIS THIS COMMISSION WANTED TO SAY, HEY, APPLICANT, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ALSO TEST THE WELLS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION, DURING CONSTRUCTION, AFTER CONSTRUCTION.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND THOSE WELLS WILL BE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROJECT.

BUT IF WE WANT TO GO OVER THERE AND GET A BENCHMARK TEST THERE, WELL, AND THEN TEST IT IN A CRUMLEY AND THEN AFTER WORDS THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, I'M COMMITTING MY CLIENT TO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AUTHORITY FOR, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE FINE. THE PROPERTY VALUE GUARANTEE WAS PROPOSED IN OUR APPLICATION.

OUR APPLICATION IS THAT THICK ON THAT NOTEBOOK.

IT'S ABOUT SIX INCHES THICK. IT HAS A LOT OF STUFF IN IT THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO AND PROPOSED, AND THEY HAVE BEEN BASICALLY INCORPORATED INTO THOSE CONDITIONS.

SO IN A TYPICAL REZONING AND THEN THE REZONING SAYS WE'LL REZONE THIS TO THE SPECIAL DISTRICT.

BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO GET A USE PERMIT. IF WE WERE TO DO THAT AND THE USE PERMIT, THE CONDITIONS ARE INTENDED TO STAY ON TOP OF THE NORMAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

HERE ARE SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPOSE ON THIS PROJECT.

AND AGAIN THERE'S 20 OF THEM. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THEM. MR. AMBASSADOR DID A NICE JOB GOING THROUGH THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE FEW THINGS. SO I WILL STAND DOWN AND ASK THAT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE USE PERMIT C 25 FOUR, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE VERY COMPLETE, THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH.

AND TO THE EXTENT WE WANT TO AMEND THOSE COUPLE, I THINK WE'RE AMENABLE TO DOING THAT.

AND I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. I WILL ONCE AGAIN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. ALICIA MANSON. ARE YOU ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING ELSE. BUT IF IF IT'S NOT, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID, WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

THAT'S THAT'S FOR ANYONE ELSE OUT HERE. THANK YOU. SIR. OKAY. OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO. YES, MA'AM. COME FORWARD. I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TABLE THAT PARTICULAR.

THE SECOND PART OF THIS. AND UNTIL OUR CONCERNS ARE ADDED TO OR AS A CONDITION OR UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE AND I DON'T PERSONALLY NEED TO HAVE MY WELL TESTED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BASELINE TEST SENT TO ME AND ANY WATER TESTING THEREAFTER.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT I THINK THAT WITHOUT YOU ADDING THE PROVISION OF THE ROAD SPECIFICALLY TO AS A CONDITION, I'M NOT SO SURE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TABLED UNTIL THEY ADD THAT AS PART OF IT, NOT AS PART OF.

WE HAVE TO AGREE THAT, BUT AS A PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR REMARKS? YES, MA'AM. YOU MAY YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

SINCE THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

OKAY. MY NAME IS TANYA PINDER. ADDRESS IS 233087 COURT NORTH END WEDDING.

OKAY. YOU CAN SPEAK IN THE MIC. OKAY. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS WAS THAT IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL FIRE, BUT IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL FIRE AT THEIR OWN HOUSE.

AND THEY COULD BE THE ONES THAT BURN THE SOLAR PLANT DOWN. SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S AN ISSUE.

FIRES HAPPEN AT PEOPLE'S HOMES ALL THE TIME. OR THEY COULD HAVE A FIRE AT THEIR HOUSE AND BURN OUR LAND AND BURN OUR VEGETATION. SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S AN ISSUE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS?

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MR. DRURY INDICATED WE COULD IMPROVE AND MODIFY THE CONDITIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO DELAY THIS, WE JUST GOT ANOTHER 30 DAYS FOR US.

SO I THINK WE'D PROBABLY PREFER ACTION AND THEN WORK ON THOSE.

AND YOU CAN CONDITION IT IF YOU WANT. SAY WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO, AND WE'D COMMIT TO DOING THAT.

IF WE DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH IT BY THE BOARD, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE RECORD, BUT THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT MR. DRURY WAS INDICATING EARLIER.

I THINK. MR. CHAIR, THE AND I DON'T THINK THAT PROCEDURALLY IT WORKS TO TABLE THE CONDITIONS NOW BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A TIE VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO RESCIND THAT AND TABLE IT AT THE REZONING STAGE. BECAUSE THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BOARD, I TOO, LEGALLY WOULD PREFER FOR Y'ALL JUST TO TAKE A TAKE A VOTE ON THE CONDITIONS AND SEND THAT FORWARD TO THE BOARD.

THEY CERTAINLY CAN KICK IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU UNDERSTAND ME? IF THEY IF THE BOARD. SO DECIDE TO DO THAT.

WELL, SO I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR US TO CONSIDER.

IF YOU TAKE WHAT MARK BASSETT SAID ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE, ABOUT THE WELL WATER TESTING AND THE PROPERTY EVALUATION, IF YOU COULD WORD THOSE.

MR. DRURY, IF YOU COULD WORD THOSE THREE ITEMS AS ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED TO THE 20 ALREADY, I'D BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS AS AMENDED, WITH THESE THREE OTHERS. THAT WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL TO THE REST OF YOU ALL TO KIND OF KEEP THIS MOVING ALONG LIKE MR. DRURY SEEMS TO BE SUGGESTING. WORK YOUR MAGIC, MR. DRURY. I MEAN, I I'M. I'M OKAY WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE TONIGHT TO TO.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE WORDING THERE IN A, IN A BROAD SENSE, BEYOND WHAT I COULD ARTICULATE MYSELF. YOU'VE SAID IT ARTICULATE ENOUGH.

IF YOU WOULD DO THAT IN A MOTION RATHER THAN JUST, I SHOULDN'T SAY, WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME.

BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMENTS, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO THAT IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO.

YOU HAVE GIVEN ME DIRECTIVE ENOUGH. I THINK THAT WE CAN, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THROUGH THE CONCERNS HERE TONIGHT HOW TO DO THAT LANGUAGE.

IF YOU JUST DO IT IN A SIMPLISTIC, IN A SIMPLISTIC FASHION.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 50 15.2 DASH 22.

86. 87. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.

I MOVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST C DASH 24 AMENDED TO INCLUDE THREE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ONE CONCERNING WELL WATER COMPLIANCE, TESTING AND COMPLIANCE, TWO ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, AND THREE PROPERTY EVALUATION GUARANTEE TO INCLUDE THOSE THREE CONDITIONS TO THE ONES THAT WERE PRESENTED TONIGHT IN TOTAL, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I SUCK IN IT. MR. HAYES, YOU DID MEAN C 25 DASHBOARD, IS THAT CORRECT? I THOUGHT I SAID THAT, BUT IF I DID NOT, YOU WERE CORRECT.

I MEANT TO SAY. SEE, CHARLIE, THAT IS 20 TO 20 5-4.

CORRECT, MR. TITMUS? MISS? NO. MR. CUNNINGHAM.

AYE. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. LANGLEY? NO. MR. HAYES.

NO. AND MR. HARVILLE. YES. THREE MEMBERS VOTING I.

THREE MEMBERS VOTING NO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME TONIGHT.

WE HAVE MORE OLD AND NEW BUSINESS TO HANDLE, BUT NOT IN PERTAINING TO THE CASE.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR COMING, AND YOU WILL HEAR THE NEXT STEP.

THANK YOU. OH, THAT'S MR. DREW. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT JUST HAPPENED. MAYBE. MAYBE.

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GLAD YOU DID. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON TO BUSINESS.

MR. CHAIR, I HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS FOR THE COMMISSION.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO NEW BUSINESS, MR.

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I DON'T KNOW IF HE REALLY WAS. HE'S WALKING OUT NOW, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT SO IMPORTANT.

YES, THAT'S. THAT'S WHY HE CAME UP. WELL, I ASKED HIM AT THE BREAK WHAT? HE. YOU KNOW, WHAT HE WAS HERE FOR. AND HE TOLD ME THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I. YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, YEAH. AND I JUST SAY, SINCE I PUT A LOT OF TIME IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS ON THAT DEFERRED CASE, I THINK IT'S DEAD. HE SAID ONLINE IT WAS DEAD.

WELL THE ACTUAL APPLICANT. YEAH. AND I HAD SOME OTHER COLLABORATOR CORROBORATING EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT AS WELL.

SO YEAH HE JUST ASKED I, I ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT AND HE JUST INDICATED HE WANTED TO REQUEST DEFERRAL IN CASE THE PROPERTY DID NOT SELL, AND HE COULD MAKE ANOTHER OFFER ON THE PROPERTY.

AND CAN YOU CONTINUE FORWARD WITH HIS APPLICATION? SO I'M I'M NOT SURE I'VE HEARD THAT THE PROPERTY, THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER OFFER MADE, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE ABOUT THAT.

SO, YEAH, I'LL SAY I'M 97% SURE. I WILL SAY THIS I DID, JUST TO REPORT BACK.

FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED. I DID GO TO THE TOWN HALL.

HE HAD WHICH WAS TWO DAYS AFTER OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

AND I WANT TO SAY THERE WAS PROBABLY TWO DOZEN PEOPLE THERE.

AND, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT FAIR TO HIM TO SAY THIS, REALLY, BUT THERE WAS NOBODY THERE IN FAVOR OF IT.

YOU KNOW, HE IT WAS PRETTY UNANIMOUS. BUT I, I WENT OVER TO HIM AND JUST SO THE RECORD'S CLEAR, I WENT OVER TO HIM AFTERWARDS. I DID NOT SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, BUT I WENT OVER TO HIM AND IDENTIFIED MYSELF.

I SAID, I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE ME AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND THINK, I JUST SNUCK IN HERE AND TROLLED YOU AND THEN CAME AND CAME BACK.

I SAID, SO HERE'S MY THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. AND I OFFERED HIM MY PHONE NUMBER, BUT HE NEVER CALLED ME BACK.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE. ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS?

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I HEARD THIS BEFORE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANT TO BETTER THINGS FOR THEIR FAMILY AND STUFF, AND I TRULY HEARD THEM. BUT I TRULY THINK OUT THERE IN THAT AREA, THERE IS TOO MUCH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES I AM KIND OF LOST AT.

WHILE THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S NOTHING ELSE CAN BE DONE WITH THE LAND, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.

I'M AT A LOSS. SO SOMEBODY KNOWS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW.

BECAUSE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE TONIGHT SAID, WELL, THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.

I DON'T SEE THAT. I MEAN, I JUST KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THEY GOT THE LETTER FROM THE WATER AUTHORITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE DID PUT THAT WATER UP UNDERNEATH THAT RAILROAD TRACK FOR A REASON.

AND I JUST THINK THAT PROPERTY IS BETTER SUITED.

AND AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I MADE THE COMMENT I DID.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF IT WAS A 25 OR 30 YEAR PLAN OR A 40 YEAR PLAN AND WE WERE AT THE END OF IT, I SEE DEVIATING FROM IT, BUT NOT WHEN IT'S NEW.

SO IS THIS THE PROPERTY THAT THE NEW DOLLAR GENERAL? SOME OF IT IS THE IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK, AND THE FRONT OF IT WAS THE FIELDS THAT ARE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WATER TOWER.

CORRECT. SO THAT WAS THEY WERE GOING TO BUY THAT AS WELL, OR LEASE IT AND BE ABLE TO GO OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS RIGHT BESIDE THE DOLLAR GENERAL, THE ROAD THAT GOES. WELL, MY PART TO YOUR POINT AND MY POINT IS, I MEAN, IS THERE A OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

IF IT'S BEHIND, IT'S ON THAT SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AND BEHIND.

I THINK I THINK TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. YES, ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE THE RIGHT PERSON PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING A BRIDGE ACROSS THERE IF THEY HAD TO. I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, WELL, IRREGARDLESS, MY THE MY REACTION TONIGHT WAS IS I CAN'T WRITE

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BUT THE CONDITIONS HE WANTED YOU TO VOTE ON THE 20 THAT WERE THERE.

HE HE ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS WILLING TO POSSIBLY WORK ON IT, BUT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND NOT SPECULATE ON WHAT MIGHT COME OR WHATEVER IT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY SAY IT'S A CONCERN FOR US THAT IT'S NOT IN THERE, WHICH I THINK SAM INDICATED TO THAT WHEN HE MADE THE MOTION WITH THAT ADDED IN FOR THEM TO WORK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES WE'LL SIT HERE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH THE APPLICANT.

IT'S THE APPLICANT'S JOB TO BE PREPARED. HE KNEW THAT ROAD WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE HE EVER WALKED IN THE ROOM.

HE PROBABLY KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THE WELL, WATER AND THE PROPERTY VALUE, THE PROPERTY VALUE THING.

HE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY INITIATED THAT STUFF WITHIN HIS CONDITIONS TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS, AND THAT HE WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH THAT AND ALREADY HAVE THE PEOPLE ON BOARD.

THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT SPOKE AGAINST IT PROBABLY LESS APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THE PROJECT. I MEAN, I BELIEVE SOMETHING ELSE COULD GO THERE.

I BELIEVE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DATA CENTER, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR A DATA CENTER.

AND WITH THE MONEY INVOLVED IN IT AND THE HIGH POWER TRANSMISSION LINE THAT SAID, PULL POWER OFF OF THAT WOULDN'T BE A BAD PLACE TO PUT IT AND I THINK IT'LL BE A WHOLE LOT MORE REVENUE THAN.

YEAH, A WHOLE LOT MORE REVENUE THAN SOLAR. THEY DIDN'T EVEN GIVE A GOOD.

I MEAN, WE TURNED DOWN A SOLAR PROJECT THAT OFFERED $15 MILLION TO THE COUNTY.

THEY OFFERED A WHOLE $300,000. I MEAN, THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT MORE LEFT TO GO.

NOW, THAT'S NOT FOR US. I MEAN, MONEY, THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.

BUT I WHEN I GO AND LISTEN TO A CASE OR READ A CASE AND IT SEEMS TO BE INCOMPLETE, I'M BEYOND SITTING HERE TRYING TO COACH THE PEOPLE ON WHAT TO DO. THEY SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHEN THEY COME HERE WITH WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS GIVEN AT THAT TOWN HALL MEETING.

SURE. EXAMPLE OF THAT. YEAH, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK SOMEBODY MADE THAT COMMENT ONCE BEFORE. BUT THEN WHEN THEY SAID IT AGAIN TONIGHT, I, I ACTUALLY WROTE IT DOWN WHEN THEY KEPT SAYING, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO WITH IT.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

I ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE COME TO MY HOUSE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THERE WAS NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TRY TO CONVINCE ME TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PROPERTY, SAYING THE PROPERTY WAS ONLY WORTH $1,000 AN ACRE.

I'LL PAY YOU. I'LL GET IT. I MAY HAVE TO COME IN. I GIVE HIM TWO ACRES FOR IT.

I DIDN'T SAY I'LL BUY IT RIGHT NOW. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING? WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT THIS TOWN HALL FOR THIS SUBDIVISION, THE MAN WHO WAS FOR PROMOTING THE SUBDIVISION USED THAT SAME LOGIC.

HE SAID, I WANT TO PUT A SUBDIVISION HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.

I MEAN, HE LITERALLY SAID THAT AND I HAD THE SAME REACTION.

I SAID, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 85 ACRES WITH NOTHING ON IT.

IT'D BE BEAUTIFUL TO ME. THE POINT IS, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION.

RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY, THAT I HOPE FROM WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT.

THEY'RE GOING TO WORK DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF BEFORE THEY GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

IT SEEMS AS IF KEVIN WALKER IS CLAIMING THAT THE PRIVATE ROAD WHICH IS BELONGS TO HIS FAMILY.

BUT THE OTHER GENTLEMEN GET UP AND SAY. NOW THEY SAY IT'S THE COUNTY'S READY COUNTY.

I WOULD SURE LIKE TO KNOW WHO OWNS THAT ROAD.

I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY THE COUNTY GOES. WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY DID MAKE COMMENT AND IT WAS MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT'S MADE COMMENT THAT THEY WANTED THAT TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD AT ONE TIME, WHICH IT EITHER HAS TO BE EITHER IMPROVED AND OFFERED OVER TO THE STATE, OR SOME PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE DOING SUBDIVISIONS, WILL GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY AFTER THEY'VE MADE THEIR MAIN ROAD.

AND THEY THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A CROSS STREET, LIKE IN WHO'S THAT CHESTNUT MANOR THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK.

AND THERE'S THOSE THAT WE HAD ALL THAT ISSUE ABOUT THAT THE COUNTY DID OWN THOSE TWO CROSS STREET SECTIONS.

SO I MEAN, IT'S. THAT ROADS. SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT.

CAN WE FIND THAT OUT? THIS CAME UP LAST TIME AND I'M FORGETTING THE OUTCOME OF IT.

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AND I'M FORGETTING. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A YEAR AGO.

BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN IT, AND AND IT'S. YEAH.

WELL, MARK KNOWS THIS, THAT EVERY TIME THERE'S A ROADWAY QUESTION ASKING ME, I GO PULL A FILE OUT OF ME BECAUSE IT'S THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN THE ROAD.

WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE THAT THEIR RIGHTS TO IT WOULD BE TIED TO THE LEASE? THEY'RE SIGNING WITH THOSE WHO DO HAVE RIGHTS TO IT.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE MAP FOR THE COUNTY REFLECTS ANYBODY OWNING THAT.

THAT THE PROPERTY LINE SITS RIGHT ON THAT ROAD.

SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE OWNER A ON THIS SIDE OR OWNER B ON THIS SIDE, RIGHT? OWNING WHERE THAT ROAD IS. SO TO ME, IT'S KIND OF ODD FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY INTO THERE WITH IT, PROBABLY. I WOULD HAVE ONLY SAID EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE BACK HAS A RIGHT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, NOT AN ACTUAL DEEDED RIGHT AWAY TO GET TO THEIR PROPERTY BACK THERE.

WHICH THEN BRINGS THE PROBLEM. A COMPANY CANNOT GO ACROSS EASEMENT, A RIGHT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT, THEY.

I COULD CERTAINLY LOOK IT UP, BUT WE WE. I'M PRETTY SURE I'LL PUT THAT TO REST LAST TIME AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BECAUSE I ASKED STEVE ROMINE TO SEND ME THE DOCUMENT, AND MY MEMORY IS THAT HE DID.

AND THEY HAD HAD AGREEMENT FROM, FROM THE LANDOWNERS THAT THE ROAD IS UNDERNEATH.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT OWNS IT TO USE IT. AND MY POINT OF IT IS, IS THAT.

THERE'S A SEMINAR ON ROADWAYS, IF YOU UNDERSTAND ME, AND IT'S TOO LONG FOR US TO DO TONIGHT.

BUT HISTORICALLY, USE OF THE ROAD, YOU DO HAVE A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT TO USE IT.

BUT THE LANDOWNER, SOMEBODY OWNED THE LAND UNDERNEATH THAT ROAD.

AND THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT AT ANY TIME TO GIVE YOU A DEEDED EASEMENT ON IT.

RIGHT. LIKE OUR PERSONAL FARM, WE'RE NOT. THE PEOPLE BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE THAT THE BIG MANSIONS ON, RIGHT? THEY HAVE A RIGHT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.

THAT MANSION, WE CANNOT STOP THEM. IT SAYS IT IN THE DEED THAT THEY CAN GET TO THAT HOUSE.

DOES IT? BUT IF THEY START PUTTING A BED AND BREAKFAST OR A WEDDING VENUE BACK THERE, THEY CAN'T PUT THEIR TRAFFIC ON OUR ROAD FOR THAT KIND OF A THING WITHOUT A DEEDED RIGHT OF WAY TO GET TO THAT.

YEAH. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I PUSHED STEVE PRETTY HARD ON THAT LAST TIME AND ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, HE SENT ME THE LEGAL DOCUMENT. THAT WAS SATISFIED.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT.

I DIDN'T. I MEAN, I TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT. I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND IT DID SAY HE HAD A DEEDED RIGHT AWAY INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT NOT LIKE A 50 FOOT DEEDED RIGHT AWAY, JUST A DEEDED RIGHT TO GO ACROSS SOMEBODY ELSE TO TO DO HIS BUSINESS.

YEAH. YEAH. THAT WAS HIS CONCERN. THE LAST THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE.

NOT FOR THE THE MAIN ISSUE, BUT HE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT DRIVEWAY, HIS ROAD.

SO I ASSUMED THEY HAD GOTTEN IT ALL STRAIGHT.

AND I AM 99.9% SURE THAT HE SENT ME, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I PUSHED HIM PRETTY HARD ON THAT.

AND HE SENT ME THE DOCUMENT THAT SHOWED THAT THEY HAD ACCESS.

SO I'LL LOOK BACK AT IT. BUT I'M I JUST TOOK HIS WORD TONIGHT WHEN IT SAID DEEDED RIGHT AWAY.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING HE PAID SOMEBODY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT? YEAH. ANY MORE COMMENTS? YOU DON'T WANT TO ADJOURN WHEN WE GOT DIRECTOR MAKE COMMENTS.

[11. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]

AT THE END OF. WELL, NOT AT THE END OF NAMSAN ROAD, BUT THAT NAMSAN ROAD AND HORSE TRAIL ROAD.

WE'VE RECEIVED APPLICATION. THEIR APPLICATION SEEMS TO BE COMPLETE, SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE ADVERTISING THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR JULY MEETING.

IT'S NOT ARCOLA, IS IT? NO. IT'S NOT. NOT. NO.

I HAVE A QUESTION. ON MY ON MY WAY HERE, I WAS TALKING TO A RELATIVE OF MINE, AND. HE. HE SAID THAT IT WAS IN THE NEWS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD LOST THE RIGHTS TO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THIS FROM.

WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THE NEWS FROM THE COUNTY FOR THAT TODAY? IF NOT, THEN I'M ASSUMING I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

LOST THE RIGHTS TO WHAT? TO REFER TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

[02:05:07]

YEAH. SO I FORGIVE ME FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I JUST DIDN'T.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE NEWS ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN WITH THE COUNTY.

NOT THAT I'VE HEARD. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. WE WE ARE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.