* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] I NOW CALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025. NOW OPEN. COULD WE ALL PLEASE STAND AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, MOMENT OF SILENCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. WE DELIVER TO GIVE HIM JUSTICE FOR ALL. HEY MAN. THANK YOU. MR. RO. COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS PLEASE? MR. SIMMONS? MR. TUS? HERE. MR. LANGLEY? HERE. MR. TUCKER? MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. HAYES HERE. AND MR. HARVILLE? I'M PRESENT. FIVE MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, OUR NEXT STEP IS, UM, I'M GOING TO BE CALLING ON MR. BASSETT TO, UM, INTERJECT THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, UH, FOR THE PLANNING MISSION AS WELL AS ANY OF THE PUBLIC WHO WERE HERE THIS EVENING, UH, WE HAVE TWO CASES THAT WERE CARRIED OVER FROM LAST MONTH'S AUGUST MEETING AT THE AUGUST MEETING. YOU ALL DID CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR BOTH OF THOSE CASES, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF ANYBODY'S HERE TO SPEAK TO EITHER OF THOSE CASES, UM, THAT YOU ALL TABLED AT THE AUGUST MEETING, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WILL NOT BE REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE, THOSE TWO CASES. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT MR. CHAIR, THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY NEED TO SPEAK DURING, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING. OKAY? THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA] WE NOW, UH, OPEN FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED. SECOND. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. TUS AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARVILLE? YES. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT. [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE'RE NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED. HOST TUCKER. MR. TUS? YES. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARPER? YES. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING. AYE. THANK YOU SIR. [6. CITIZEN COMMENTS] WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT FOR CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. UM, AND MR. BASSETT JUST EXPLAINED IF ANYONE UNDER THOSE, UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HE EXPLAINED WANTS TO SPEAK, THEY, THIS IS THE TIME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT UNDER CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. SO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS IS NOW OPEN. MS. BOBBY RODRIGUEZ. MA'AM, COULD I, UM, READ THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT STATEMENT FIRST BEFORE YOU SPEAK? YES. AND THEN AFTER THAT, I WANT LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR, AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. SURE. CITIZEN'S COMMENTS PERIOD STATEMENT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DESIRES TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO ZONING ISSUES THAT ARE NOT LISTED UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS MEETING. IT IS FOR THE PURPOSE. THE CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD IS PROVIDED. THIS TIME IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, NOR IS IT A TIME FOR DIALOGUE WITH COMMISSION MEMBERS OR STAFF. CITIZENS WHO DO TAKE PART IN THIS COMMENT PERIOD MUST ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS, THIS COMMISSION WITH THE QUORUM LOUD, DISRUPTIVE, OR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR TO INCLUDE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE SHALL BE AVOIDED. AVOID WORDS OR ACTS THAT ARE AIMED AT EVOKING VIOLENCE OR CAN BE DEEMED TO BE A BREACH OF THE PEACE. LASTLY, DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THIS COMMISSIONER'S CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MA'AM. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE HERE. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE IN DINWOODY. MY NAME IS BOBBY. UM, MY ADDRESS IS 2 2 1 4 EAST MARSHALL STREET IN RICHMOND. SO I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DRIVE TODAY, BUT I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND, UM, BASICALLY I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE FIRST TIME THAT I'M GOING TO BE IN THIS ROOM AND MEETING Y'ALL TO BE WHEN I'M HERE [00:05:01] NEXT MONTH FOR MY PUBLIC HEARING. SO THE COMPANY THAT I'M REPRESENTING, WE'RE CALLED AMOR. WE HAVE A SOLAR PROJECT THAT IS LOCATED IN DEWITT. IT'S OFF OF LOU JONES ROAD, UH, ABOUT A MILE WEST OF ROUTE ONE. SO I AM HERE TO JUST COMMUNICATE THAT WE'RE REALLY HUGE ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE TAKE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE INVITED ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS PLUS MORE TO A COMMUNITY MEETING OUT IN MCKINNEY. AND THAT WAS A CHANCE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT. AND BEFORE THAT, I WAS JUST DRIVING ALONG LOU JONES, HOPING TO GET, HOPING TO SEE NEIGHBORS OUT MOWING THE GRASS JUST SO I COULD INTRODUCE MYSELF, GIVE THEM MY CARD, AND HAVE, HAVE THEM HAVE ME ACCESSIBLE TO THEM REALLY. AND SO I AM VERY MUCH OPEN TO ANY ADVICE ANYBODY HAS ABOUT, UH, ANY COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. UM, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO OUR, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT IS ROCKY TON CLUB IS, UM, MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW. AND SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY ENGAGING WITH THEM. AND THEN ALSO THE, THE HUNK CLUB WHO'S, UH, BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE ON THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE OUR PROJECT ON. SO EVERYBODY HAS BEEN, UH, JUST LIKE, AND IT'S NOT, NOT, IT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING, BUT EVERYBODY'S BEEN SO WONDERFUL. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE, INTRODUCE MYSELF AND HOPE THAT IT MAKES NEXT MONTH A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP. OKAY. [7. PUBLIC HEARING] SO WE'LL BE CLOSING CITIZEN'S COMMENTS AT THIS PERIOD, AND WE WILL GO TO OUR FIRST HEARING ON THE FIRST CASE. MR. BASSETT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. UH, THE FIRST CASE WE'RE HEARING THIS MORNING, UH, THIS EVENING FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. UH, THIS PAST GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, THE, UH, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, VIRGINIA COUNTY CODE THAT BASICALLY, UH, SHORTENED THE MANDATORY PLAN AND PLAT REVIEW TIMES FOR LOCALITIES. AND OF COURSE, THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UH, THE BE ENACTED, UH, BEGINNING JULY 1ST, 2025, AND, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES, UH, TO THE VIRGINIA CODE. UM, IMPLEMENTING THOSE INTO OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. UH, MR. JURY DID DRAFT THE, UH, ATTACHED, UH, SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, UM, JUST TO, UH, GO OVER THOSE BRIEFLY. UM, THE, THE AMENDMENTS ARE TO, UH, SECTION 18 DASH 59 AND THAT SECTION, UM, THAT REDUCING THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT REDUCES THE SUBDIVISION AGENTS REVIEW TIME FOR A FINAL PLAT FROM 60 DAYS TO 40 DAYS. AND IT ALSO, AGAIN, AMENDS SECTION 18 DASH 60 WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. UH, ONE, BY REDUCING THE TIME THAT THE SUBDIVISION AGENT HAS TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF PROPOSED FINAL PLAT FROM 60 DAYS TO 40 DAYS. AND TO INCLUDE THAT THE SUBDIVIDED MAY PETITION THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE COUNTY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. AND ALSO TWO, ADDING IF THE SUBDIVISION AGENT DISAPPROVES A FINAL PLAT, THE SUBDIVIDED MAY APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE DISAPPROVAL. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, WE APPROVE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS SUBMITTED. AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, YOUR UH, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THIS IS JUST GETTING US IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE APPROVED. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU MR. BASSETT. YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. SINCE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT OPEN TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? MR. CHAIR, YOU STILL NEED TO JUST [00:10:01] FORMALLY OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I STILL DID. DID YOU FORMALLY OPEN IT? I DID. I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. SO HE SAID THAT YOU OPEN AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SO WE NEVER OPENED IT BECAUSE YOU STILL SHOULD. IT'S SIGNED ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S NOT OUT. I MEAN, THIS IS A NEW ONE. THIS IS THE NEW ONE. THIS IS THE NEW. OKAY. SO I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIR. SO WILL BE CLOSED. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO IT? WELL, I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. MR. DRURY. UM, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY, CLIFF NODE VERSION EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE IN CODE OF VIRGINIA? UM, I, I, I DON'T, CAN'T TELL FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT LOBBYISTS, WELL, I KNEW THERE WAS A LOBBYIST SOMEWHERE, BUT, UH, , I JUST KIND OF, IF YOU HAD AN IDEA AROUND WHAT THE REASON WAS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. IT IT, IT'S JUST AS THIS IS NOT SHOWING ALL THE CHANGES THEY MADE TO IT. 'CAUSE IT WAS PRETTY INTRICATE. IT ACTUALLY ALSO SPED UP THE PROCESS AT THE STATE AND GOVERNMENT LEVELS TO ABOVE US. I, I'M ASSUMING THAT SOMEONE COMPLAINING ABOUT, AND IT, AND IT TIGHTENED IT UP, THAT IT JUST TIGHTENED IT UP. AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, DEVELOPERS BASICALLY LOBBIED TO GET THIS CHANGED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT PUSHED THINGS THROUGH. I'M SURE THAT SOMETHING GOT STUCK UP IN THE LINE AT SOME POINT. AND IF YOU READ IT AS A WHOLE, YOU UNDERSTAND ME THAT IT, IT UN GUMS THE PROCESS, SO TO SPEAK. SO IF THAT ANSWERS YOU NO, I, I KIND OF SPECULATED THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, BUT NO, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 22 53, 15 0.2 DASH 2285 AND 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN, THE DENWOODY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICE WARRANT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE DENWOODY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS A DASH 25 DASH THREE AS PRESENTED TO, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. SECOND IT MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. TUS? YES. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARWELL? YES. A 25 DASH THREE HAS BEEN APPROVED AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. [8. OLD BUSINESS] THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE AT THE OLD, THE OLD CASE. IS THAT, IS THAT WHERE WE ARE? YES. SO, MR. BASSETT, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU NEED TO SAY? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO REINTRODUCE THE CASE AGAIN, P DASH 25 DASH 10. UH, THE WITT FAMILY IS DESIRES TO, UH, CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL. UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED. UM, CURRENTLY UNDER THE B TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATION, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, POSSIBLY ADD AN ADDITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY'S CONSIDERED NON-CONFORMING UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING SINCE IT'S OWNED BUSINESS, UH, COMMERCIAL. UM, THEREFORE AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO R ONE RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO BRING IT INTO A CONFORMANCE. UM, WITH, AS YOU CAN SEE, MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS AREA SOUTH OF, UH, SIMMONS AVENUE, UH, FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE R ONE ZONING. SO THIS WOULD BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMP, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CALLING FOR. UM, AND AGAIN, WOULD BRING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, INTO CONFORMITY, UH, WITH ZONING AND WITH THE, LIKE ZONING OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UM, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE [00:15:01] PROPOSED REZONING, UH, TO THE R ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE REQUESTED ZONING. I'VE GOT ONE IS THE ONLY WAY TO BRING IT IN TO CONFORM IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE AN ADDITION ON THE HOUSE IS TO CHANGE IT TO RR ONE. YES. TO THE R ONE. SO THERE IS LIKE NO ZONING APPEAL THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH PROCESS? NO, YOU COULD, BUT TECHNICALLY, UM, THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. IF YOU HAVE THAT OPTION TO REZONE IT, THAT WOULD BE THE PATH FORWARD. UM, OKAY. AND AS I CORRECT THAT, HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE AND THE OTHER HALF. UM, THE, THE WAY IT SPLIT IT, UH, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THAT'S THE CASE. THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, OKAY. TO THE WEST DOES HAVE, UM, SOME COMMERCIAL ZONING STILL ON IT. ALRIGHT. BUT THIS ONE IS ALL WITHIN THE B TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATION CURRENTLY. OKAY. SO, MR. DREW, IS IT APPROPRIATE? THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH. TO HAVE THE OWNERS TO COME FORWARD IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO YEAH, THAT'S FINE. IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO. YES. DISCUSSIONS AND QUESTIONS FROM Y'ALL IS FINE. HI MA'AM. COULD YOU, UM, PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? SURE. MY NAME IS ERICA WYNN. I'M, UH, . COULD YOU USE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS ERICA WYNN. I'M REALTOR WITH REAL BROKER AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ANNE WITT AND DAVID WITT. MY ADDRESS IS 11 7 0 6 LB MILL AVENUE, CHESTER, VIRGINIA. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD, BUT WE'RE JUST HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I I WAS JUST ASSUMING THAT YOU WANTED TO DO THIS TO MAKE IT EASIER TO SELL. YES, SIR. WE'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR, AND MOST OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, UM, IS DESIRING TO REHAB AS RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. CAN YOU BRING THE MIC DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, MR. HAYES, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. BE IT. RESOLVED THAT INTO ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 86 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES. I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH TWO FIVE DASH 10 BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPER COUNCIL. SECOND. MR. TUS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HAR? YES. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING AYE. PDS 25 DASH 10 HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE FOR SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. THANK YOU, SIR. MS. CHAIR, ARE YOU READY FOR THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING? NEXT CASE, WANNA OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? NO, NO, THIS IS ONE. WE DON'T DO THAT. THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S THIS ALSO THE ONE THAT'S NOT PUBLICLY RIGHT? THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BUT YEAH, UH, THE, THE NEXT CASE ON THE AGENDA IS THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, UH, SE 25 DASH ONE. UH, THE APPLICANTS [00:20:01] ARE HERE THIS EVENING. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THEM AFTER OUR STAFF PRESENTATION, UH, WE DID, UH, PRESENT AT THE, YOUR AUGUST MEETING, UH, COULD JUST REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OFF OF FERNDALE ROAD. UM, THIS IS WHERE YOU ALL, UM, HAD, UH, RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD DID APPROVE, UH, TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO B TWO. AND THEY ALSO RECEIVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED SELF STORAGE, UH, FACILITY. UH, WITH THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE, UH, SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. UM, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO THE, UH, PORTION OF THE REQUIRED BUFFER ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. APPROXIMATELY, UH, THREE, 300 FEET. UM, ALONG THAT WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, THAT BUFFER AREA THERE. I'LL GO TO, TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. UM, YOU ALL SAID YOU WANTED TO SEE THAT WE INCLUDED THAT IN YOUR PACKET, UH, FOR THIS MEETING. UM, AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER, AS PART OF THE, UH, REZONING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, THE APPLICANT, UM, DID AGREE TO, UH, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE WESTERN, UH, SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, IS GOING TO BE, UM, HAVE THE BRICK FACADE, UH, FOR THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, BY THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ENGINEER. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE, UH, LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO THAT LANDSCAPING. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A, A GREAT DEAL OF LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. UM, UH, AS PART OF THE PROPERTY BEING B TWO, UM, THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, BEHIND THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING. THERE'S COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, UM, WHERE THE, UH, OLD, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS. AND THEN BEHIND THAT THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND THAT'S THAT AREA. YOU CAN SEE THAT 300 FOOT AREA, UM, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE THAT HEAVILY LANDSCAPED AREA THERE. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, JUST GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, UH, AGAIN, REITERATING WHAT WE HAD IN OUR STAFF REPORT, UH, THE APPLICANT, UM, CAN REQUEST A MODIFICATION OF THE, UH, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. UM, AND THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO CONSIDER AS PART OF THAT. UM, REVIEWING, UM, ANY MODIFICATIONS FOR, UM, BUFFER REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE. AND WE WENT OVER THOSE AT YOUR, UM, LAST MEETING. UM, STAFF IS THE OPINION THAT, UM, A MAJORITY OF THE, UM, LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA, MAJORITY OF THEIR CRITERIA, UM, DO DO SUGGEST THAT A WAIVER, UM, IS FEASIBLE, UM, BY THE, UM, REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT STAFFS IN AGREEMENT, UM, THAT A MODIFICATION OF THE, UM, REQUIRED, UH, LANDSCAPING, UH, WITHIN THAT BUFFER AREA, UM, IS WARRANTED. AND, UM, YOU ALL CAN, UM, GRANT THAT, UH, WAIVER, UM, AND MODIFICATIONS YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN ALSO PLACE CONDITIONS, UM, ON THAT MODIFICATION AS, AS YOU, UM, SEE FIT. SO IF, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, UH, GRANT ANY TYPE OF MODIFICATION OR WAIVER TO THE, TO THE SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT. UM, THERE, THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THERE'S A VERY STEEP SLOPE THERE. IT'S BASICALLY, UM, AT A MINIMUM A THREE TO ONE SLOPE BETWEEN THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AND THE, UM, SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT. AND ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE THAT, UM, THEY ARE GONNA HAVE, UM, THERE'S EXISTING, UH, FOLIAGE ON THE, THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE, UH, [00:25:01] BUILDING ITSELF AS ONE OF THE CRITERIA YOU CAN SEE WOULD ACT AS A BARRIER TO THE, TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. UM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, UH, CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A MODIFICATION. ALSO, THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS GONNA BE LANDSCAPED. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT, UH, BUILDING NUMBER ONE IS GONNA BE A BRICK, BRICK BUILDING. UM, ALSO LOOKING FROM ROUTE ONE INTO THE PROPERTY, UM, REALLY THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE IS THE FIRST BUILDING, WHAT THEY CALL BUILDING ONE ON THE SITE PLAN. AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD HAVE THE BRICK FACADE, UM, WITH THE LANDSCAPING, UH, THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE WAY IT SLOPES OFF, UM, YOU REALLY DON'T SEE THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, FROM ROUTE ONE. SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE ITEMS AS PART OF THE, UM, STAFF TOOK THOSE INTO ACCOUNT AS PART OF, UM, SEEING THAT WE, WE THINK THERE'S, UH, THE CRITERIA ARE BEING MET FOR GRANTING A MODIFICATION OF THAT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. ARE YOU GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE, TO THE REQUEST TO MODIFY THAT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT? I GOT A QUESTION. UH, DOES THE APPLICANT OWN THE LAND THAT THE BUFFER PRESENTLY THERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IS ON? YES, THEY DO. YES THEY DO. ALRIGHT. YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE BUFFER WIDTH THAT'S REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE IS 25 FEET. MM-HMM . SO THEY'RE STILL GONNA MAINTAIN THAT 25 FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AND THE, THE TWO STORAGE BUILDINGS MM-HMM . FACILITY BUILDINGS. SO THE BUFFER WIDTH REQUIREMENT IS BEING MAINTAINED. THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO MODIFY THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S RE REQUIRED THERE. THANKS. SO, SO AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD BACK IN THE GAME FROM NOT THINKING ABOUT THIS REALLY FOR A MONTH, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST SHIFTING, SHIFTING THE LANDSCAPING 'CAUSE OF THE, UH, THE SLOPE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? IS EVERYTHING'S SHIFTED, IS THAT, UM, NOT SHIFTING IT, THEY'RE WANTING TO REDUCE THE, THAT LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT WAS 25 FEET. RIGHT. THE BUFFER WIDTH REQUIRED IS 25 FEET. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'RE SHOWING THERE IS REQUIRED, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED, SO THEY'RE ASKING TO MODIFY THE ACTUAL LANDSCAPING, NOT THE WIDTH OF THE BUFFER, BUT JUST THE LANDSCAPING'S LANDSCAPING. SO IT'S TYPE OF, TYPE OF LANDSCAPING. YEAH. RIGHT. AND TO CLARIFY, YOU SAID RIGHT ONE A WHILE AGO, BUT REALLY 2 26. 2 26. YES. I'M SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. THE RIGHT PLACE. YEAH, I GET OR FERNDALE ROAD MORE SPECIFICALLY. YEAH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. NO, NO, NO. THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. BASSETT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO ONCE AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT AVAILABLE, BUT IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME. ARTHUR BOSTIC 69 0 2 COLEMANS LAKE ROAD, CHURCH ROAD, VIRGINIA, SORRY, WE WEREN'T HERE LAST WEEK. I WAS OUT OF TOWN TAKING MY DAUGHTER OR LAST MONTH TO, UH, OLE MISS. SHE'S A FRESHMAN AT, AT OLE MISS THIS YEAR. SO I WAS OUTTA TOWN IN MISSISSIPPI. I, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE FACING THE PROJECT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING FROM THE ACTUAL APPEARANCE FROM THE ROAD. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT FROM, UM, FROM, UH, FERNDALE THERE, IT'S STILL GONNA HA HAVE THE SAME LANDSCAPING ON THE FRONT SIDE, THE SAME LANDSCAPING FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET DOWN THAT LEFT SIDE, BASICALLY TO THE END OF BUILDING ONE. AND BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK THERE WITH THAT THREE TO ONE SLOPE, THERE'S SO MUCH FALL THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT FROM FERNDALE. LIKE IT'S SEVERAL FEET BELOW THE GRADE OF FERNDALE OUT THERE. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO GO IN THERE AND PUT THAT IN THERE, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE THAT'S BACK THERE. SO WE'RE HOPING TO TRY TO USE THE NATURAL VEGETATION THAT'S ALREADY ON THAT SLOPE AND LEAVE IT INTACT TO KINDA GIVE US THAT BUFFER, NOT HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND DISTURB THAT AND PUT A BUNCH OF ORNAMENTAL TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT YOU'RE GONNA END UP SEEING DYING OVER THE YEARS AND HAVING TO BE REPLACED AND STUFF LIKE THAT JUST BECAUSE OF [00:30:01] THAT SLOPE BEING SO STEEP ON THAT BACKSIDE. AND THEN A LOT OF THAT RUNS TO A LOWER AREA AS WELL, SO THE SOILS ARE NOT AS SUITABLE. YOU GOT A POND BACK THERE AND SOME WETLANDS AND STUFF THAT IT'S RUNNING TOWARDS. SO WE'D REALLY RATHER NOT HAVE TO GET INTO MESSING WITH ANY OF THAT. UM, AS FAR AS DISTURBING THAT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND THEN BEHIND THE STORE. SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE FROM FERNDALE THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE STORE, BASICALLY, IF YOU RODE PAST THERE, YOU'VE SEEN IT PLENTY OF TIMES. EVERYTHING TO THE BACK OF THAT STORE IS PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE LANDSCAPE. SO THERE'S ANY WAY THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM, UM, FERNDALE, YOU'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE LANDSCAPE DOWN THROUGH THERE AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE BRICK FACADE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS REQUESTED. SO EVERYTHING UP THERE HAS A NICE APPEARANCE. ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS JUST TRYING TO CUT SOME OF THAT LANDSCAPING OUT ON THE BACKSIDE. THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE FROM A COST STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT FOR US, UM, OVER LONG TERM. AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING BACK THERE OTHER THAN A CUTOVER RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NO RESIDENCE THAT IT BUTTS UP TO. THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS, IS GONNA BE SEEN FROM THERE. THERE'S AN OLDER HOUSE THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF THIS STORE THAT'S ON THAT PARCEL, UM, THAT PRETTY MUCH EATS UP ALL THAT ROAD FRONTAGE RIGHT THERE. SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEBODY COMING BACK IN THERE AND BUILDING ADDITIONAL HOUSES WITH THAT POND AND THE LOWER LANDS AND STUFF BACK THERE, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GONNA BE DEVELOPED. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A FENCE AND SOME WIND SCREENING AND STUFF UP THERE TOO AS PART OF OUR SITE PLAN THAT'S ALSO GONNA HAVE THAT STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL GONNA BE SOME FENCING AND WIND SCREENING AND EVERYTHING UP THERE THAT'S GONNA STILL HAVE THE FACILITY AND THE SITE WORK. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I I GOT ONE FROM MR. BASSETT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I GOT FAR, HONEY. SO IT IS GONNA BE SOME FENCING ALONG THERE. YES SIR. WANTED THE QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH IT IS. UM, AGAIN, ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST KIND OF USE THE NATURAL BUFFER THAT'S ALREADY THERE, UM, AND KEEP EVERYTHING FROM THE ROAD APPEARANCE THE SAME. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT STUFF AT ALL. SO FROM FERNDALE, IT'S GONNA LOOK EXACTLY LIKE IT HAS FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT I GUESS WHAT MS. LANGLEY WAS SAYING IS ON THAT SIDE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FENCING YES SIR. WHERE THAT LANDSCAPING WAS GONNA BE. YES SIR. YES. I WAS GONNA SAY BECAUSE YOUR PICTURE ONLY REFERENCES THE CHAIN LANE WHERE THAT ROAD IS OR THE FIRE LANE RIGHT THERE. I DON'T SEE UNLESS THOSE, WELL THAT'S NOT IT, BUT YEAH, IT'S UM, IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, SO WE INTEND IT'S GONNA HAVE FENCING AROUND THE WHOLE THING THERE. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE X THE LINE WITH THE X IS IN IT IS CONSIDERED THE FENCING? UH, LEMME ON THE SITE PLAN. YES SIR. OKAY. IT JUST POINTS TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CHAIN LANE FENCE IN THAT RIGHT. NO PARKING FIRE LANE TURN RIGHT THERE. MM-HMM . THAT JUST WAS THE ONLY THING THAT POINTED TO A FENCE. YEAH, YEAH. NO, OUR INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE FENCING DOWN THAT, THAT WHOLE SIDE ON THE FRONT. OKAY. UH, I WOULD ASK, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO PUTTING THE, THE SLATS IN THE CHAIN LINK ON THAT SIDE? ? WELL, YEAH, WE HAD PROPOSED WINDSCREEN, UM, JUST BECAUSE FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO MAINTAIN THAN THE SLATS ARE. OKAY. JUST OVER TIME AND STUFF, THEY BREAK DOWN, YOU GET BRITTLE, THEY BREAK, THEN THEY START LOOKING LIKE CRUD. RIGHT. UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO GO. BUT YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. YES SIR. THAT'S SOLID. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. SO I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION TOO. SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S OLD HOUSE THAT NOBODY LIVES IN WHEREVER, THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS LISTED HERE AS PARCEL 9 31. IT'S A LONG PARCEL PARALLEL TO YOURS ON THE WEST SIDE? NO, NO. 9 31 IS THE ACTUAL STORE. OH, SO THAT'S THE STORE UP FRONT? NO, THE UH, 25 52 4, WHATEVER THAT IS TO THE LEFT OF THAT. UM, THAT'S WHERE THE HOUSE IS. THE FRONT'S FERNDALE. SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE 9 31 A THEN THAT'S, THAT'S THE ACTUAL STORE. OKAY. YES SIR. SO, SO 9 31 IS COMPLETELY VACANT? UH, NO, THEY'RE RUNNING THAT SHED TO WIRE THEIR NAIL. OH, OKAY. I GOTCHA. OLDEST, YOUR ONE WAS THE BACK IN THE BACK WHERE THIS IS AND WHERE THE POND IS. THERE'S NOTHING BACK THERE. YES, SIR. AND, AND ALSO THE DROP OFF YOU WERE SPEAKING OF TOO? YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. . ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. YOU'RE WELCOME. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UH, MR. BAR BASSETT ABOUT, UH, UH, IF [00:35:01] YOU MADE THE STATEMENT IT WOULD BE APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AND, AND, AND IS THAT USING THE B NATURAL BUFFER THAT'S THERE, WOULD THAT BE FINE TO SAY THAT, UH, AND NOT MODIFY THE LANDSCAPING PORTION OF THE BUFFER REQUIREMENT? I, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT UNLESS, I MEAN, IF YOU GOT OTHER COMMENTS, I'M FINE WITH IT, BUT I JUST WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN I MAKE THIS MOTION, WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT. I'M, UM, YEAH, I THINK YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THE, YEAH, I THINK THE MODIFICATION'S APPROVED. UM, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THE EXISTING VEGETATION IS GONNA BE ABLE TO BE MAINTAINED THROUGH THEIR, ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION. I I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THE FENCING WITH THE SCREENING WOULD BE IS THAT YOU WOULD BE, IS GONNA TAKE THE PLACE OF THE VEGETATION. YEAH, IT WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE VEGETATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. . ALL RIGHT. HMM, Y'ALL GO AHEAD IF Y'ALL GOT ANY MORE COMMENT. I GOT, I'M GOOD. SO CAN WE GET A MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE IT. Y'ALL HAVE, BEAR WITH ME THE MOTION. UH, LEMME SEE ACCORDANCE OF INDEMNITY CODE SECTION 22 DASH 4 21 9. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY GRANT APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF THE EXCEPTION, UH, TO ZONING WARRANT SECTION 22,423 TO MODIFY THE LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPING PORTION OF THE BUFFER REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 22 4 20 THING 23 2 EXISTING VEGETATION, UH, ALONG THE PROPERTY IS WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. DID I DO IT? I THINK ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS JUST SAY , I'M OLD ENOUGH USING WIND SCREENING FENCING INSTEAD OF VEGETATION. OKAY. YEAH. CAN YOU MAKE THAT, CAN YOU MAKE THAT WORK? WHOEVER'S WRITING THAT DOWN, , IF THAT'S YOUR MOTION, YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH, I AGREE WITH IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT NOW? I DO. I'LL SECOND THAT. . MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. SIMMONS? YES. MR. CUNNINGHAM? AYE. MR. TUS AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARWELL? AYE. SIX MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING A SC 25 DASH ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE MS. IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. OKAY. JUST PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE, HAS BEEN A WAIVER OF THE SITE PLAN 25. THAT'S ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED. ALRIGHT, THUS ENDS THE CASES THAT WE HAVE ON THE LIST, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP. THERE'S ANYONE ELSE HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING TO SAY, OTHERWISE WE'RE MOVING ON TO SOME NEW BUSINESS. THANK YOU ALL. YOU CAN STILL STAY IF YOU WANT TO. SO WE'RE [9. NEW BUSINESS] GONNA MOVE TO, UM, NUMBER NINE, NEW BUSINESS MS. MS. MORGAN INGRAM. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. THE, WELL, MR. GURLEY, UH, PULLS THIS UP. I THINK IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE'VE GIVEN KIND OF A DEVELOPMENT UPDATE. UM, WANTED TO CHANGE THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AND THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND IF YOU ALL ARE AGREEABLE TO THIS, WE'LL DO IT, UM, MAYBE TWICE A YEAR, QUARTERLY, WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE WOULD BE. AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECTS AS WE GO. UH, COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CON CONSTRUCTION OR HAVE RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED. THE BOTTOM LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE SHEETS PROJECT. UM, IT IS ALMOST COMPLETED ONCE THOSE TRUCKS FOUR 60 ARE REMOVED, THEY'RE STILL CLEANING UP SOME THINGS FOR A, UH, RETENTION WALL FOR VDOT. SO THIS ONE IS STILL TECHNICALLY ON OUR BOOKS. UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IF YOU WILL. [00:40:02] UM, IN THE MIDDLE THERE, YOU SEE THE BOARD MEMBERS HOLDING THEIR PICKLEBALL PADDLES, UM, AND THE BASKETBALL FOR THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX. UM, WE ARE JUST WAITING ON SOME LANDSCAPING TO GO IN, ACTUALLY, MONDAY IS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PLANT THE TREES ON THAT AND DRESSING UP, RE-SEEDING SOME AREAS. SO THAT ONE IS, IS OPEN AND COMPLETE, BUT THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF DRESS UP THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT ONE. UM, WAWA, I'M SORRY THAT MR. TUCKER IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. UM, THEY'VE JUST COMPLETED THEIR PHASE ONE, UH, ENS AND THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO INSTALLING UTILITIES IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UM, THE DOLLAR GENERAL IN, UH, FORD IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY'VE JUST ABOUT COMPLETED THEIR PHASE ONE ENS AND, UM, STORM WATER INSTALLATION AT THIS POINT. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY DOLLAR GENERAL? YES, SIR. ARE THEY GONNA DO A LOT BETTER JOB AT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT THAN THE ONE ON IN SUTHERLAND ? WE, WE HAVE, HAVE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS AND HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEIR MANAGEMENT REGIONALLY. UM, TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT HANDLED. YEAH, I MEAN I KNOW WE'VE, DO WE EVEN HAVE A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERSON ANYMORE? UM, NO. UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE FILL IN FOR THE ENS RIGHT NOW. UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE OF OUR ENGINEERING FIRMS UNDER CONTRACT THAT IS REVIEWING THE STORM ORDER SIDE OF PLANS AND DOING THE VSMP INSPECTIONS FOR THE, UM, THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE ENS SIDE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ANY SMALLER PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER JUST THE REGULAR ENS. UM, I MAINTAIN MY CERTIFICATION TO FILL IN, UM, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ADVERTISING THAT SOON. UM, SOME MORE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. I KIND OF INTENTIONALLY PUT THESE ON A SEPARATE SLIDE OF SOME THAT ARE MORE, UH, LOCAL TO US AND NOT SOME OF YOUR CHAINS. UM, DENWOODY DENTAL, UM, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN, THEY'RE VERY NICE NEW FACILITY. THEY'RE ON ROUTE ONE AND THEY ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. UM, AND THIS ONE IS STILL ON OUR PROJECT LIST. THEY EACH, UH, PROJECT HAS TO DO A BMP MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AS, AS PART OF THE FINALIZATION OF EVERYTHING AND HOPING FRIDAY ACTUALLY TO HAVE THAT SIGN AGREEMENT READY TO RECORD ON THAT ONE. UM, CEDAR LANE, UM, AND COMPANY AND NOW CEDAR LANE AND COMPANY COFFEE SHOP. THEY'RE ON ROUTE ONE IN SUTHERLAND. UH, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, A REPURPOSE OF THAT BUILDING. AND NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOCAL COFFEE SHOP AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, DON'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN PROCESS, BUT THEY DO TO TOUCH OUR BUILDING SIDE OF THINGS. THEN BUILDING AND PLANNING ARE ALL PART OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION. WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT? UM, ON FOUR 60 AND SUTHERLAND NEXT TO THE OLD WAGON WHEEL IS PEOPLE KNOW RIGHT THERE BY OAKLAND CHURCH. OKAY. SO IT'S A GIFT SHOP. OKAY. UM, SHE SELLS A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOCAL ARTISAN STUFF. UM, THEY HAVE LIKE LUNCH SANDWICHES AND NOW, UM, COFFEE THROUGH NOON EACH DAY. AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE SOME LOCAL DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE DONE A VERY NICE COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING JUST OFF OF FOUR 60, UM, BEHIND MIRRORS ON THE WALL THAT, UM, OPENED, I GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEKEND. THEY HAVE ONE TENANT AND A COUPLE MORE SLOTS THERE TO FILL. I I, I HATE TO ASK QUESTIONS, I JUST DON'T GO DOWN FOUR 60 VERY OFTEN, BUT, SO WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT? YOU KNOW WHERE HOLLYWOOD SIGNS IS? UH, EL CAPAL HOLLYWOOD SIGNS AND THEN THERE'S MIRRORS ON THE WALL. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S A KIND OF A PRIVATE INDUSTRIAL DRIVE DOWN THERE. UM, AND THEN THERE'S THIS NEW BUILDING ELECTRIC IS BACK IN THE BACK. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS WORKING WITH THE OLD SUTHERLAND MARKET. THEY'RE INSTALLING NEW GAS PUMPS AND, UM, LOOKING TO REMODEL THAT FACILITY AND, AND THEY CAME BEFORE US, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO NOW? YEAH, YEAH. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, RECALL MR. ROBINSON DID THAT REZONING CASE, THEY HAD TO REZONE THE B TWO BUSINESS TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO REDO THOSE FUEL PUMPS AND THAT FUEL CANOPY. ALSO THE, UH, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAD TO REVIEW THAT FUEL CANOPY AND THEIR MODIFICATIONS [00:45:01] THERE. SO THEY, THEY WENT THROUGH THE REZONING AND THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS WELL FOR THAT PROJECT. SO ARE THEY STILL RENTING OUT PART OF IT TO SOMETHING ELSE? I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW MORE? I I DON'T, I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY COMPLETELY VACANT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. SO I WATCHED TODAY AS THEY PUT THE NEW SIGN UP, I MEAN, WHY IS IT NOT A SIGN CLOSER TO THE GROUND WITH OUR NEW SIGN ORDINANCE? I MEAN, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU CAN JUST LEAVE A POLE AND THROW A NEW SIGN ON IT AND IT'S NOT CONSIDERED CHANGING IT RE REFACING THE EXISTING SIGN. YEAH. YEAH. TECHNICALLY THAT'S REFACING OF THE EXISTING SIGN. A WHOLE NEW SIGN ON TOP OF A POLE IS REFACING. I MEAN, I, I I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THEY'VE DONE, SO I'D HAVE TO SEE, I MEAN, IT WAS APPROVED, SO I WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE OUT THERE. I HAVEN'T BEEN BY THE SITE. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DONE. THEY TOOK THE WHOLE SIGN DOWN, THEN PUT UP A WHOLE NEW ONE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE POLE BECAUSE THE POLE WAS JUST SITTING THERE FOR THE POLE WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ORIGINAL. CORRECT. WHICH IT, I MEAN THAT'S, I JUST DON'T, I, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION FOR MY OWN PURPOSE. MAYBE I WANT TO REDO A SIGN SOMEWHERE. WHEN IS IT NOT CONSIDERED OR HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE TO DESTROY THE OLD SIGN BEFORE IT'S CONSIDERED A NEW SIGN? I HAVE THE POLLS THERE AND ANY TYPE OF FRAMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO RE BUT IF THERE'S NO FRAME, IF I, IF I'VE GOT A POLE SITTING THERE AND I TAKE THE FRAMING AND EVERYTHING OFF THE TOP OF IT AND PUT A WHOLE NEW SIGN ON TOP OF IT, AS LONG AS I LEAVE THE POLE, I'M GOOD. NEED THE BASE THAT I, I, I MEAN, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE SIGN ORDINANCE IN DENWITTY SO THAT WE WOULD BRING SIGNS DOWN TO THE GROUND IF WE WERE CHANGING SIGNS, AND I UNDERSTAND IF THE SIGN WAS THERE AND THEY TOOK THE FACE OUT, LEFT THE WHOLE FRAME, PUT A NEW FACE IN IT, THAT WHOLE THING. AND I DON'T WANT 'EM TO GO TEAR DOWN THE SIGN THAT THEY PUT UP, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH HAS TO BE DONE TO A SIGN TO MAKE IT A NEW SIGN AND NOT A REFACING BECAUSE THAT WAS A LOT. I MEAN, THEY HAD TO HAVE A CRANE TO SET THE WHOLE TOP. THEY DID ALL THAT. IT'S NOTHING OF THE OLD SIGN ON TOP OF THE POLE. YEAH, I'D, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PERMIT TO SEE WHAT THEY PROPOSED AND, BUT IT WAS APPROVED AS, BECAUSE THEY PUT THE, BASICALLY UNDER REFACING, THE LED LIGHTS IN IT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THE GAS AMOUNTS AND ALL THAT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID. RIGHT. I JUST, I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL SIGNS BEEN DONE LIKE THAT IN DENWITTY NOW AND JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH DO I GET TO TEAR UP? HOW MUCH DO I DON'T GET TO TEAR UP BEFORE IT'S CONSIDERED A NEW SIGN. WE, WE CAN GO BACK AND EVALUATE THE SIGN ORDINANCE AND THE REFACING DEFINITION AND SEE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. UM, PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WENT THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN PROCESS AND ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE CAPEX S TRUCK SHOP ON SIMPSON ROAD. IT'S, UM, A SEVEN EIGHT LITTLE, ALMOST SEVEN AND A HALF ACRE SITE THERE ON SIMPSON ROAD THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GRADING FOR, UH, A WHILE NOW. UM, AND ARE BUILDING A TRUCK SERVICE SHOP, THE DINWOODY INDUSTRIAL PARK. THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT ON SIMPSON, UM, THAT RJ SMITH IS DOING. UM, SOME SPEC SMALLER INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. UM, THIS IS ABOUT A 28 9 ACRE SITE. THE CURRENT SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON THIS, IT IS ABOUT SIX BUILDINGS. UM, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THEIR ENGINEER TODAY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE SITE PLAN AND ACTUALLY ADDING MORE BUILDINGS. AND THIS IS RIGHT AT THE PETERSBURG LINE THERE ON SIMPSON ROAD. UH, DI DOMINION ENERGY PROPANE STORAGE. THIS IS A, A SMALLER FOUR ACRES SITE ON HEIMER WAY, KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ROSALYN'S FARMS BUILT. UM, AND IT'S JUST A PROPANE STORAGE LARGE MASS FACILITY KIND OF FOR THEIR EAST COAST FOR DOMINION. UM, LUMEN FIBER NODE BUILDINGS, UH, THIS IS A SMALL SITE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE FOOD LION RIGHT UP HERE ON ROUTE [00:50:01] ONE. AND THEY HAVE AN EXISTING FIBER NODE SHELTER THERE NOW AND THEY'RE ADDING, UH, THREE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS TO THAT. THE FOOD LION JUST RIGHT UP HERE OR ONE? YEAH, YOU REALLY CAN'T, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU PULL IN TO FOOD LION WITH THE TREES STARTING TO FALL A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE. YEAH. UH, REAM SOLAR FARM ON OLD VAUGHN ROAD, THIS ONE, UM, STILL HAS SOME LANDSCAPING TO DO THAT THAT TECHNICALLY HASN'T BEEN CLOSED OUT ON OUR ACTIVE PROJECT LIST. THEY HAVE COMPLETED INSTALLATION OF THAT THOUGH. UH, SITE PLANS, UM, THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS. AND SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THEY SUBMIT AND IT'S A WHILE BEFORE WE HAVE RESUBMITTAL AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THE DENWITTY AIRPORT IS DOING A NEW MAINTENANCE AND EQUIPMENT STORAGE BUILDING AT, AT THE AIRPORT COMPLEX. TYNDALL CONCRETE HAS KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT SITE PLANS GOING WITH US. IF YOU RECALL, THEY CAME AND, UM, REZONED A PORTION OF A PROPERTY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THEIR CURRENT CAMPUS, UM, TO EXPAND THEIR PROPERTY. THERE ABOUT 37 ACRES. WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, ONE SUBMITTAL OF THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY, AND IT PROPOSES A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND A LITTLE OVER 2100 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. THEY ALSO HAVE A CONCRETE FORMING SHOP, UM, THAT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 11,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON. AND THEN JUST KIND OF A MASS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PLAN. UH, VULCAN, THE JACK 40 PLANT ACCESS ROAD AND UTILITY CONNECTION SITE PLANS. WE'VE HAD A SUBMITTAL OF THAT. UM, IT'S BASICALLY JUST KIND OF IMPROVING THAT ENTRANCE FOR THE TRUCKS GETTING IN AND OUT. UH, THEY HAVE NOT RESUBMITTED, I THINK THEY'RE RENEGOTIATING SOME THINGS WITH VDOT WITH THE ENTRANCE THERE, THE FERNDALE ROAD MINI STORAGE. WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL. I THINK AFTER, UM, THIS EXCEPTION TONIGHT, WE SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH READY TO APPROVE THOSE SITE PLANS. DENWOODY DINER AND HOTEL. THIS IS A LOT ON ROUTE ONE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RON'S MUFFLER SHOP THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAS SUBMITTED CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS FOR A DINER IN A HOTEL. JUST A DUMB QUESTION, I THOUGHT FROM A TRADEMARK STANDPOINT, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD A DIM WOODY DINER. SO HOW DO YOU THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY CALL THE SITE PLAN, THE TITLE OF IT WHEN WE GET IT. I GOTCHA. BECAUSE I, WHEN I SAW THAT, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HOTEL COMING OFF OF 7 0 3, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED. OKAY. UH, PICTURE LAKE CAMPGROUND, THEY ARE DOING A WATERLINE, UM, EXTENSION IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE CAMPGROUND AND THOSE SITE PLANS ARE APPROVED. NBC HAS A FIBER NODE SITE PLAN THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED, I GUESS ALMOST A COUPLE YEARS NOW. UM, OVER ON AIRPORT ROAD DOWN FROM THE OLD JIMMY'S WELDING THAT KIND OF CUT THROUGH ROAD TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE AIRPORT. AND, UH, SIMPSON ROAD WAREHOUSE SLASH OFFICE. UM, THIS IS MID-ATLANTIC FIELD SERVICES AND THIS IS THE FORMERLY IDA OWNED KIND OF TRI TRIANGULAR PIECE THERE AT THE CORNER OF SIMPSON AND WEEKLY THAT THE IDA SOLD. UM, AND THIS INITIAL SITE PLAN IS FOR, UM, A LITTLE UNDER 2000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, OFFICE BUILDING. AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UH, RENT A FACILITY IN PETERSBURG AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD IN DENWOODY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE COX ROAD APARTMENT SECTION ONE. WE DID RECEIVE THE FIRST SUBMITTAL OF THAT SITE PLAN. UM, AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SENT BACK TO THE ENGINEER ON THAT ONE. POPLAR GROVE ESTATES, THIS IS AT VAUGHN AND BETHUNE ROAD AND THIS IS 19 LOTS. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THIS SITE PLAN, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED AT THIS POINT. CEDAR RIDGE SECTION ONE AND TWO, THIS IS A SUBDIVISION DOWN AT THE END OF BLUE TARTAN ROAD, UH, ABOUT 33 LOTS IN TOTAL. UM, AND THIS IS, THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER TO BUILD OUT ON THIS, BUT, SO MY QUESTION THERE, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS NOT LONG AGO, IS THAT, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE TRIPPING, THE TRIPPING THE, THIS, THIS DOESN'T TRIP ANYTHING, DOES IT? NO, IT'S JUST THE, AS AS YOU WE HAD DISCUSSED, IT'S THE 31ST BUILDING PERMIT TRIPS, THE, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. ROAD REQUIREMENT UP IN, UP IN ROUTE [00:55:01] ONE AND ALDI WAY. YEAH. IF IT WAS TRIPPING AND I WASN'T GONNA BE LIKE SHOCKED, BUT OKAY, GOTCHA. I THINK 32 LOTS. 32 AND 33 ARE SHOWN AS EXISTING. I GOTCHA. ON THE SITE PLAN EVEN. MM-HMM . UH, CHEIN POINT SECTIONS ONE AND TWO. UM, SECTION TWO WE HAD THE ROAD, UH, FORMALLY TAKEN INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING. THIS WAS 10 LOTS AND THEY KIND OF BACKED OFF OF THE SECTION ONE FORT EMORY ESTATE SECTION TWO. THIS IS 12 LOTS THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN UNDER REVIEW ON SQUIRREL LOWVILLE ROAD AND FORT EMERY ROAD AND D ESTATES. THIS IS A 20 LOTS OFF OF, UH, SIMMONS AVENUE. AND, AND THIS ONE IS, UH, VERY CLOSE TO COMING OFF OF THE BOOKS. VDOT HASN'T FORMALLY, UM, TAKEN THE ROAD INTO THEIR SYSTEM. THEY HAVE A PUNCH LIST AND WE HAVE, UM, THEIR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THEIR STORMWATER BMP VERY CLOSE TO BEING APPROVED. AND APPOMATTOX MANOR, UH, SECTION THREE, THESE WERE 12 LOTS, UM, OFF OF CHE KENNETH DRIVE, WHICH IS ANOTHER SECTION OF THAT APPOMATTOX STANDARD SUBDIVISION OFF OF RIVER ROAD. AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'VE HAD APPROVED FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THEY, THEY JUST HAVE NOT STARTED TO CONSTRUCT ANYTHING. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, CENTRAL STATE HOSPITAL? I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AT THAT, UM, 460,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, UM, WITH 252, UH, INPATIENT BEDS. AND IT IS PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETED FINALLY IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2027. YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT IF YOU DRIVE BACK IN THERE, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY EXTENSIVE, UM, FACILITY AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF, UM, POUNDING OF ROCK OFF OF ROUTE ONE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN EXTENDING THE SEWER LINE. IT'S TAKEN QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME TO GET IT THERE, UM, WITH DIGGING THROUGH THE ROCK THERE. UM, THIS SLIDE IS JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF OUR EXISTING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH, UM, EXPANSIONS OR UPGRADES. THE BOTTOM LEFT WITH THAT BIG ROLL OF PAPER IS KAISER, WHICH IS THE NOTEBOOK, UM, MANUFACTURER DOWN IN MCKINNEY. IN THE OLD PHILIP MORRIS BUILDING, WHEN THEY FIRST BOUGHT THAT BUILDING, THEY WERE HAD LIKE TWO MACHINES, BUT THEY ARE COMPLETELY UTILIZING THE WHOLE FACILITY NOW AND ARE INCREASING THE MACHINES WITH HOPES TO BRING A COUPLE MORE OVER, UM, FROM CHINA. AMAZON IS GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH A MAJOR RENOVATION OF THE INTERIOR OF THAT WITH THEIR RACKING SYSTEM. UM, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA SHUT THE FACILITY DOWN FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO GET EVERYTHING DONE AT ONCE SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES AREN'T IN THERE, BUT ALL THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE RELOCATED TO VARIOUS FACILITIES WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT. AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT, A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT THAT IS, UH, THE WALMART DISTRIBUTION PLANT AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THEIR SECOND PHASE OF THEIR RENOVATIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO THIS ROBOTICS SORTING SYSTEM FOR ALL OF THEIR PALLETS OF INVENTORY. UM, IT'S A PHASE ONE IS COMPLETED AND OPERATIONAL AND THEY'RE MOVING TO PHASE TWO AND THEY'VE ALSO RENOVATED ALL THE BREAK ROOMS AND MOVED THINGS AROUND WITHIN THE FACILITY AND REALLY KIND OF UPGRADED IT, PUT IN SOME, UM, SOME, SOME AIR CONDITIONING FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY HAVE NOT LOST EMPLOYEES WITH THE ROBOTICS, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THEY ACTUALLY UPSKILLED THOSE WORKERS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC A AMAZON SHOULD ALMOST BE ABOUT DONE, SHOULDN'T HE? NO, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE IN A FEW MONTHS. THEY'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE UPGRADING THEIR WHOLE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM TOO. I, I HAD A COUPLE THINGS THAT I NOTICED WITH A COUPLE OF YOUR, UH, BULLET POINTS INVOLVE. FIBER REMINDED ME OF A COUPLE THINGS THAT I HOPE IT'S FAIR GAME FOR YOU. I THINK IT'S REMOTELY AT LEAST, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RELATED. BUT I, MY WAY I'VE NOTICED, UM, VERIZON HAS PUT IN A LOT OF DUCT BANKS WITH FIBER AND THERE WAS ONE IN PARTICULAR I THOUGHT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CELL PHONE TOWER SITE. AND, BUT ACTUALLY AFTER I'D GONE, I AND STARTED LOOKING AROUND MORE, UM, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, IT JUST WASN'T IN THAT LOCATION. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF ANYBODY KNEW KIND OF WHAT THE GAME PLAN THERE WAS. [01:00:01] I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A GENERAL UPGRADE, I'M SURE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY MORE SPECIFICS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO VERIZON WITH FIBER. OKAY. MM-HMM. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS MY OLD FAVORITE RIVER STREET. I WAS JUST WONDERING, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I, I HAD SOMEBODY ASK ME ABOUT IT THIS WEEK OFF OF NASH ROAD AND UM, I JUST REFERRED 'EM TO THE WEBSITE AND IT SHOWS THE PROGRESS AND ALL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC. 'CAUSE THE PROGRESS IS NOT TIME-BASED, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'RE UPDATING THE WEBSITE BASED ON WHAT WE GET FROM THE PDC THAT IS, THAT IS HANDLING THAT PROJECT. DAN, I'M SORRY, THAT HASN'T BEEN SPECIFICALLY MY PROJECT, BUT REALLY THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE, UM, MUCH TO DO WITH IT. I UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S THE DANVILLE AND PDC, RIGHT? NO, CENTRAL VIRGINIA, PDC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S LYNCHBURG. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, I WAS JUST CURIOUS THAT LYNCHBURG, PDC. YEAH. YEAH. MR. BRENER. YEAH. I'LL GO BUG HIM ABOUT IT. YEP. . THANK MR ST I HAVE ONE QUESTION. MM-HMM . UH, THE, THE REAM STATION SODA MM-HMM . FIELDS WAS THAT NE THAT HAD NEVER, NEVER BEEN COMPLETED. THEY STILL HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THEIR, UH, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROCESS THAT THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED. OKAY. THANKS. I THINK THE LAST WE HEARD THEY HADN'T CONNECTED TO THE GRID EITHER. THEY WERE STILL WAITING ON SOME EASEMENTS. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IS THIS HELPFUL? IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO VERY GOOD SEE PERIODICALLY? YES, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW THAT YOU TOUCH THINGS AND THEN SOMETIMES IT COULD BE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE YOU SEE IT COME TO FRUITION. YOU, YOU, YOU SUGGESTED QUARTERLY OR BIANNUAL. MY, I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME, SO I FIND IT HELPFUL. I WOULD SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S KIND OF UP TO YOU WHEN YOU THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO KIND OF BRING BACK, THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE IT MAY BE QUARTERLY IS APPROPRIATE. OTHER TIMES YOU MAY GO LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. RIGHT. DEPENDING ON YEAH. WHAT ALL'S GOING ON? I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, LEAVE. WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD MEETING THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. GRAM. WE'RE DOWN TO COMMISSIONER'S [10. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] COMMENTS. ANY PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS? I HAVE NO PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS. MR. CHAIR. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. I, I, UH, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT BE QUICK THAN THAT. WELL, I KNOW, BUT IT'S, UH, I WROTE THIS UP AND I HOPE IT'S FITTING, BUT I SAID GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AS THIS IS MY FINAL MEETING SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT, SO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. IT'S TRULY BEEN AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR DENVER COUNTY, A PLACE WE ALL CARE DEEPLY ABOUT. TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BOTH PAST AND PRESENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TACKLE THE TOUGH ISSUES WITH INTEGRITY AND RESPECT. IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ALONGSIDE EACH OF YOU AND THOSE THAT WE WORKED ALONGSIDE THAT ARE GONE. YOUR GUIDANCE HAS MADE THIS EXPERIENCE NOT ONLY PRODUCTIVE BUT ENJOYABLE. I LEAVE CONFIDENT THAT THE FUTURE OF PLANNING INDEMNITY IS IN GOOD HANDS. I WISH YOU ALL CONTINUED SUCCESS IN THE YEARS AHEAD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE COUNTY GROW AND THRIVE THROUGH YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU AGAIN. I GIVE YOU ALL MY BEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TRULY ENJOYED, SIR, WITH YOU. WELL, I HOPE I MADE A DIFFERENCE AND MAYBE I MADE SOMEBODY MAD AND I HOPE IT MADE SOME MORE HAPPY , BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN FUN. I'M SURE YOU GOT SOMEBODY IN THE WINGS THAT, UH, WILL DO. UH, IT'S GOOD A JOB AND BETTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU CITIZENS TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I GOT. YEAH. MR. CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MR. CUNNINGHAM FOR ALL HIS YEARS OF SERVICE. MANY YEARS, MANY LONG NIGHTS, OCCASIONALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND CERTAINLY REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INPUT. IT WAS, YOU ALWAYS OFFERED VERY GOOD INPUT, UH, WITH ALL OUR DIFFERENT CASES, UH, SERVED THROUGH TWO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES. [01:05:01] APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INPUT THERE. AND ALSO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IT WAS, UH, HOPEFULLY ENJOYABLE FOR YOU AND I DEFINITELY WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU DEFINITELY MADE IT ENJOYABLE FOR STAFF AS WELL. MANY, MANY EVENINGS. UM, AND ALSO, UM, MANY DAYS, UH, WHEN YOU WOULD COME INTO THE OFFICE FOR A VISIT TO DISCUSS A CASE OR JUST DROP BY TO SAY HELLO. UM, DEFINITELY MADE MY TIME, UH, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY VERY ENJOYABLE AND REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP OVER THE YEARS AS WELL, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. NOW I MAKE A MOTION. WE'LL ADJOURN. SECOND THEN. MR. LANGLEY. THIS TIME AND NOT MR. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WRITE IT DOWN FROM EITHER TIME. . ALL IN FAVOR, GENTLEMEN. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, SIR. I SAID. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.