* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. RIGHT. READY? YEAH, [00:00:01] I'M READY WHENEVER YOU ARE. THIS IS [1. CALL TO ORDER] THE DENVER WITH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR DECEMBER THE 10TH, 2025. I WOULD LIKE TO NOW CALL IT TO ORDER IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND AND GIVE OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE PLEASE. TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR AMEN. THANK YOU. MR. LEY, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. LANGLEY? HERE. MR. TUS? HERE. MR. BISHOP? HERE. MR. HAYES? HERE. MR. HARLE? HERE. AND MR. SIMMONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA] THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT? SO MOVED. SECOND. MR. BISHOP? AYE. LANGLEY AYE. MR. TITMUS? AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARWELL? AYE. THANK YOU. COULD WE HAVE [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? SO MOVE SECOND. WHAT'S THAT? MR. LANGLEY? OR WAS MR. TITMUS? I'M SORRY. MOTION LANGLEY AND A SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. TUS. AYE. MS. BISHOP? AYE. AND BY THE WAY, UM, WOULD YOU PREFER MS. BISHOP OR MRS. BISHOP? I'M NOT PEGGY EITHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. I'M SORRY, I MEANT TO ASK YOU THAT. MR. LANGLEY? AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HAR? YES. THANK YOU. UH, NOW OPEN CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. PERIOD. MR. CHAIR, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP. WE'RE GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON [7. PUBLIC HEARING] TO, UH, OUR FIRST CASE, MR. BASSETT. GOOD EVENING, MS. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. UH, THE FIRST CASE WE HAVE BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE THIS EVENING, UH, TO REPRESENT THEIR REQUEST AS WELL, AND THE REQUEST IS TO OPERATE AN EVENT FACILITY IN THE A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL DISTRICT. UH, THE PROPERTY LOCATION AS YOU CAN SEE, IS AT 1 6 0 1 1 BOYTON PLANK ROAD AND THE PROPERTY'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, JUST BELOW TWO AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE. UH, AGAIN, THE APPLICANTS, UM, HAVE, ARE REQUESTING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EVENT FAC FACILITY. UM, THE EXISTING BUTTERWORTH HOME, UH, YOU CAN SEE IS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL AS OUTBUILDINGS AND A STORAGE SHED. UM, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, UM, BASICALLY INCLUDES A HUNDRED ACRES OF, UH, FARMLAND, UM, AND PASTURE LAND, UH, WITH BARNS AS WELL AND POLE SHEDS. UM, BEYOND THE, UH, EXISTING FARMLAND, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, UM, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. ALL OF THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL AS ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS, UM, ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL. A TWO. UH, THE APPLICANTS INTEND TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING PROPERTY, IF GRANTED THE SPECIAL, I MEAN THE EVENT FACILITY USE, UH, FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES, REUNIONS, WEDDINGS, UH, THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS. AND, UM, AS THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, EVENTS WOULD BE LIMITED TO FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY BETWEEN 10:00 AM AND 10:00 PM AND THE OWNER'S INTENT TO PROVIDE TABLES, CHAIRS, AND TENTS AS NEEDED FOR ANY OF THE EVENTS, UM, THAT ARE HOSTED ON THE PROPERTY. UM, LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA, WHICH ALLOWS FOR LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT. AND JUST A NOTE, THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT DOES ALLOW AN EVENT FACILITY UPON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GRANTING THE USE UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. ALSO, UM, [00:05:02] IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT, UM, IF YOU HAVE, UM, AN EXISTING FARM ON 25 ACRES OR MORE, UM, OR, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S CLASSIFIED AS A FARM OR THAT TYPE OF LAND USE, YOU CAN HAVE AN AGRITOURISM, UH, FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH DOES ALLOW EVENTS. SO IT'S, IT, UM, THE EVENT FACILITY WOULD NOT BE UNIQUE, UM, TO THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT AS WE CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE IN THE COUNTY AGRI SIMILAR, UH, FACILITIES UNDER THE AGRITOURISM PART OF THE ORDINANCE IF YOU OWN, UM, CERTAIN TYPES OF AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY. SO IT WOULDN'T BE, UM, UNUSUAL TO ALLOW AN EVENT FACILITY IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT, UM, EXISTING FACILITIES ON THE SITE TO UTILIZE WILD AND SEPTIC. THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WAS PRESENTED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. REALLY THERE WERE NO, UH, COMMENTS RAISED. UM, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE PROPOSED EVENT FACILITY, UH, WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, VDOT DID, UM, SUBMIT A REVIEW, UH, LETTER, AS YOU CAN SEE AS PART OF THE OUR APP, UM, OUR STAFF REPORT, UM, AND JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, ROUTE ONE HAS A FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION AS A MINOR ARTERIAL AND AN AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC COUNT OF 2,600 VEHICLES PER DAY. UM, VDOT JUST DID NOTE THAT A LOW VOLUME COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACCESS THE SITE, UM, FOR THIS PROPOSED USE. AND VDOT JUST NOTED THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED, UM, REZONING OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF THE PROPERTY. UM, STAFF DID NOTE UNDER OUR ANALYSIS JUST VERY BRIEFLY THAT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES LOCATED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND GIVEN THE ACREAGE AVAILABLE FOR THE EVENT FACILITY. IN RELATION TO THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND ZONING PATTERN, WE FEEL LIKE THE PROPOSED USE WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED. UM, STAFF DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON, UH, PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR THE, UH, SUBJECT EVENT FACILITY. IF IT'S APPROVED, THESE CONDITIONS WOULD APPLY TO THE, TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS AN EVENT FACILITY. UM, MR. JURY DID HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT I'LL, UM, LET HIM SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS, BUT, UH, CONDITION ONE, UM, WE HAVE PROPOSED THE USE OF THE PROPERTY SHALL BE LIMITED TO AN EVENT FACILITY AND PROPERTY RENTAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. AND WE JUST TIE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, TAX MAP PARCEL 57 DASH 39 C. UM, MR. JURY DID NOTE THAT, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE ALLOWED. SO WE WOULD, UM, AMEND THAT, UH, CONDITION ONE TO INDICATE THAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THE EVENT FACILITY, UM, AND PROPERTY RENTAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE ALLOWED. UH, TALKING ABOUT EVENT SPACE AND CAPACITY. UM, TO NOTE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT NO MORE THAN 75 PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY ONE TIME DURING AN EVENT. SO, UH, WOULD BE LI LIMITED TO 75 PEOPLE. UH, PARKING. UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, THAT ALL PARKING FOR THE EVENT FACILITY SHALL BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. UM, WE DID INCLUDE PARKING ON TAX MAP PARCEL 56 DASH 57. THAT'S THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALLOWED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER'S CONSENT. UM, THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE JUST INDICATING THAT THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH VDOT ENTRANCE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS UNDER VDO T'S REGULATIONS, ANY TYPE OF CHANGE OF USE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, IF AN EVENT FACILITY IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CHANGE OF USE BY VDOT. SO THEY WOULD AGAIN, REVIEW THE ENTRANCE AND ASK THEM TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THAT THEY REQUIRE AS PART OF THEIR REVIEW. AND, UM, ENTRANCE STANDARDS, [00:10:02] UH, SANITARY SEWER AND POTABLE WATER, JUST ENSURING THAT THE TIM COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY WOULD MEET ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF FACILITY SITE LIGHTING. THE LIGHTING, UH, SHOULD BE CONTAINED, UH, TO THE SITE, NOT, UH, TO VER PRESERVE THE NIGHT SKY AND NOT CAST, UH, ONTO ADJOINING PROPERTIES. TIME OF OPERATION, WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS. UM, THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING AND STAFF AGREED, UH, 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND THE DAYS WOULD BE LIMITED TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY OUTDOOR CAMPING. THIS IS, UH, STAFF HAS INCLUDED THIS ON WITH OTHER EVENT FACILITY PERMITS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THE PAST AS A CONDITION JUST WE HAVE HAD APPLICANTS AND, UM, PEOPLE, UM, OPERATING EVENT FACILITIES, UM, FROM TIME TO TIME THEY'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT, UM, CAMPING ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE DID ADDRESS THAT WITH THAT CONDITION. UM, SECURITY, UM, IN THE PAST, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ASKED US TO INCLUDE THIS CONDITION IF THEY'RE ASKED TO PROVIDE SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY RELATED TO AN EVENT. UM, JUST THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH THE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON REPAYMENT AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR ANY DEPUTIES BEING USED AS PART OF A AN EVENT ON THE PROPERTY. UM, SPECIAL EVENTS AGAIN, MR. JURY HAD SUGGESTED LANGUAGE, UH, TO AMEND THIS AS WE PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. UM, BASICALLY WITH OTHER EVENT FACILITIES, UH, WE'VE HAD THIS CONDITION IN THERE JUST TO ENSURE THAT IF THEY HAD A LARGE EVENT OF 300 MORE PERSONS, THEY WOULD'VE COMPLY WITH CHAPTER THREE, ARTICLE TWO OF THE DEWIN COUNTY CODE, WHICH COVERS SPECIAL EVENTS AND REQUIRES THEM, UM, TO RECEIVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, UM, FOR AN EVENT THAT QUALIFIES AS A SPECIAL EVENT BEYOND WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND CONDITIONS, UM, NOISE. JUST ENSURING THAT, UM, THEY WILL COMPLY WITH OUR EXISTING, UH, CODE RELATED TO NO NOISE IN THE, IN THE DIY COUNTY CODE. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS, FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL, UM, ANNUAL REVIEW THAT WE WILL REVIEW THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT. AND THEN CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVOCATION STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE USED IN OTHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, NOT JUST WITH EVENT FACILITIES, BUT OTHER CONDITION USE PERMITS AS WELL. UM, JUST THAT, UM, IF NECESSARY, UM, THE CUP COULD REVOCATION COULD TAKE PLACE BY THE DIMITY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE RELATED TO OUR STAFF REPORT. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME, IF NOT, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. MR. BASSETT? COULD I YES. JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE SPECIAL EVENTS? YES. YES. THANK YOU MR. JURY. I, I TOLD MR. BASSETT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IN THERE AND IT'S FINE FOR IT TO BE IN THERE. I WOULD JUST STRIKE, UM, IN THE FIRST SENTENCE ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT THE DIY CODE IN WHICH IT WOULD READ ANY GATHERINGS OF MORE THAN 300 PERSONS AT ANY ONE TIME FOR AN EVENT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO ENTIRETY OF CHAPTER THREE. SO JUST ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH I THOUGHT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT AMBIGUOUS, UH, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS GOT A BETTER WAY TO STATE IT, SO BE IT. BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. BASSETT IS SAYING AND DOING. THAT'S IN ALL THE PERMITS. THANK YOU. I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT THEM ASKING FOR 75 THEN WE SAY IF YOU HAVE AN EVENT OF 300 PERSONS OR MORE, YOU HAVE TO COME GET A, WHAT ABOUT IN BETWEEN 75 AND 300? HOW ABOUT 76 TO 2 99? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? UM, BY CODE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. UM, BUT SO TECHNICALLY TECHNICALLY WE'D HAVE TO SAY I BELIEVE THAT NO, YOU COULDN'T YOU COULDN'T DO THAT. UM, UNLESS BE IF I MAY BREAK IN ON THAT ONE TOO. UNLESS YOU GOT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, BUT YEAH, AND HE'S RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S, THERE'S A GAP IN THAT. BUT WHAT I'VE SEEN IT WORK IN OTHER LOCALITIES IS [00:15:02] A LOT OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT HERE IS BY, UM, COMPLAINT AND, UM, IT REALLY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT UNLESS NEIGHBORS COMPLAINED AND THE COUNTY CONFIRMED THAT THERE WERE EVENTS OVER 75 AND IF THAT OCCURRED, THE CUP COULD BE REVOKED IN ITS ENTIRETY. SO IT'S A PRETTY DRASTIC THING IF THEY GO OVER IT. BUT THAT'S THE WAY I'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST, IF YOU UNDERSTAND, IS THAT IF THEY WERE COMPLAINTS MM-HMM . BUT YOU, YOU ARE RIGHT. YES SIR. OKAY. A GAP. I MEAN, LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING, PEOPLE GOING TO COMPLAIN ONE DAY ONE WAY 'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY'S EVER GONNA BE HAPPY WITH YOU. UH, I MEAN, IT'S A SHAME THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, BUT IT HAPPENS. SO I GUESS JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT. MR. MR. HAYS? I HAD A QUESTION TOO. YES, MR. HAYS, I KNOW, I KNOW THE, UH, EVENT FACILITY DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO HERE IS, UH, IT'S REG, IT IT'S ORIGIN WAS UNDER DIFFERENT REGULATIONS. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT ARE THESE, UM, UH, ARE THESE, UH, THE CUP HERE, IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AS WELL WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE? YES. YES. I MEAN, I I REALIZE IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME, RIGHT? I JUST, I JUST, I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT IT'D BE CONSISTENT, PARTICULARLY YES, A COUPLE MILES DOWN THE ROAD. I FEEL LIKE IT. SO YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS YES, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT. YEAH. AND, AND I HATE TO KEEP ON JUMPING IN MR. CHAIR. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO EVENT CENTERS, THE, THE COUNTY, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE EVENT CENTERS UNDER AGRI AGRITOURISM, WHICH IS WHERE THAT FALLS IN. I KNOW. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT BIRD I KNOW AND, AND EVERYTHING. SO, UH, ANYONE THAT, AND YOU KNOW, THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS NOT, I CAN COME IN FOR A CUP, EVEN THAT ORGANIZATION COULD COME IN FORCE A UP. IT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE. SO NO, I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT ITS CONSISTENCY GIVEN ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY. THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTAND. THE REASON I'M SPEAKING UP IS THAT SOME CITIZENS HAVE CONFUSED THAT CONCEPT AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CONFUSED IT. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, BUT, UH, WHY IT'S CONFUSING. YEAH. I MAY END UP GETTING ON IT AT EVENT FACILITIES. , JUST TO BE CONTRARY. . THANK YOU, MARK. UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION 'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO TELL ON THIS MAP. ARE THEY ABLE TO TURN LEFT OUT OF HERE? I KNOW THERE'S A MEDIAN THAT GOES UP TO A CERTAIN POINT ARE PEOPLE WHEN THEY LEAVE, GONNA HAVE TO TURN RIGHT AND THEN U-TURN IF THEY NEED TO GO THE OTHER WAY. I MEAN, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THAT. I MEAN, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED YES. TO TURN LEFT, LEFT THERE. YEAH. OKAY. I KNOW 'CAUSE THERE, THERE IS A MEDIAN UP LIKE RIGHT THERE, . YEP. SO JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WITH 75, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT TRAFFIC POTENTIALLY, MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE GOING NORTH RATHER THAN SOUTH, BUT JUST KIND OF SOMETHING IT'S A GOOD POINT. IT IT WASN'T RAISED AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE LEVEL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT YEAH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT. OKAY. I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE REASON IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TWO SOUTHBOUND LANES AT THAT POINT. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MR. BASS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, YOU MAY DO SO AT THIS POINT I'M GONNA SAY I, I AGREE TO MR. BASSETT. OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THEN I OPEN, OPEN THE SESSION UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS NOW OPEN. MR. CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE COMMISSIONERS. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? NO, JUST [00:20:01] REAN ANSWERING THAT. WERE I, THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, SO I'M SORRY I'M A SLOW PROCESSOR. UM, HAVE ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS BEEN CHATTED WITH ABOUT A POTENTIAL FACILITY? SO WOULD YOU MIND COME FORWARD PLEASE. WE SET A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, AND ADDRESS. IT'S KEVIN, KEVIN SUMMERFIELD. WERE ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS, UM, KIND OF APPROACHED ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL? YEAH, WE HAVE SOME NEW NEIGHBOR, NEW NEIGHBORS THAT MOVED IN AND, UM, THE BRICK HOUSE IN THE BACK. I'VE KIND OF JUST SPOKE WITH THEM. UH, MR. SELDEN, STEVE SELDEN. I'VE SPOKE WITH HIM AS WELL. I GOTCHA. AND THEY WERE, YEAH, THEY, THEY SEEMED LIKE THEY'RE FINE WITH YES MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. JUST A NOTE. STAFF DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CALLS RELATED TO APPLICATION REQUESTS, LIKE, THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. CAN WE GET A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION BE RESOLVED IN, IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 6 87, IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST C DASH 25 DASH SEVEN AS PRESENTED AS PRESENTED WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL WITH THESE CONDITIONS TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ASK FOR, FOR JUST A CLARIFICATION AS, AS DISCUSSED AMENDED THIS EVENING? OH, SO YOUR 300 ON THE THING WAS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, I'LL ADD WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT IN NUMBER 10 AND NUMBER ONE I THINK YES, RIGHT? YES. YES. THANK YOU. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MR. LANGLEY? YES. MR. BISHOP? AYE. MR. TUS AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HARLE? YES. C DASH 25 DASH SEVEN HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE, I THINK A MANY CONDITIONS FOR 10 AND NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANTS. UM, THIS IS ONE PHASE OF YOUR REQUEST. WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO FINALIZE, BUT IT WILL BE GOING TO THEM WITH A, UM, SUGGESTION OF SUCCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. MR. MR. BASSETT? YES. ARE WE READY FOR YOU IN NEXT CASE? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, THE NEXT CASE WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS REZONING REQUEST P DASH 25 DASH 14. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO REPRESENT THE APPLICATION THIS EVENING. UH, THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE TO RESIDENTIAL RURAL RR ONE. AND UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS PRO A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES FRONT'S ON ROUTE ONE, BOYTON PLANK ROAD AND, UM, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY AND ABUTTING THE PROPERTY IS VACANT AND ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED. UH, THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, IS B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL. THE PROPERTY ACROSS, UH, ROUTE ONE IS, UM, COMPRISED OF THE OAK GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH, UH, THAT TWO ACRE PARCEL AND THEN THE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY IS THE 92 ACRE VACANT PARCEL. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S, UM, HAS FORESTAL USES AND CROP LAND USES ON IT. UM, THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED, UH, B TWO AS WELL. THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, IS REQUESTING, UH, TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE RR [00:25:01] ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UH, THE MAIN, UH, REASON THEY'RE REQUESTING THE REZONING IS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A LARGER ACCESSORY BUILDING THAN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UM, IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, THE, AN ACCESSORY BUILDING IS ONLY ALLOWED TO BE 50% OF THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING DWELLING. AND, UM, THE APPLICANT, OF COURSE IS REQUESTING TO BUILD A, A LARGER BUILDING THAN THAT. UM, SO IN TALKING WITH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, UM, AND, UH, GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, TWO ACRES OR MORE, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THEY PROPOSED TO RE REZONE THE PROPERTY TO THE RR ONE ZONING DISTRICT. AGAIN, THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, DOES NOT HAVE A LIMITATION ON THE SIZE OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING AND, UH, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE RR ONE ZONING DISTRICT IS TWO ACRES. UM, SO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AS WELL AS UH, MYSELF AS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, UM, FELT LIKE, UH, THIS WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE, UM, THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTY, UM, DOES FIT IN, UH, WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE GENERAL AREA. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A DOWN ZONING. UM, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO, UH, FURTHER DEVELOP THE PROPERTY UNDER THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT. AND, UM, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE GETTING EXISTING HOUSING NEXT TO THE, UH, B TWO ZONING DISTRICT IF THEY, IF THAT WAS DEVELOPED. ALSO, WE FELT LIKE IT FIT IN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA, UM, IT'S WITHIN WHAT WE CALL THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AREA AND, UM, THE RR ONE ZONING DISTRICT DOES FIT IN WITH THAT CLASSIFICATION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. UH, WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, NOBODY HAD ANY CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE, UH, REZONING, ACTUALLY WE ALL FELT LIKE IT WAS A DOWN ZONING AT THE PROPERTY. UH, SO THERE W WOULDN'T BE, UM, ANY INTRODUCTION OF NEW HOUSING IN THE AREA. UM, AND VDOT WAS OKAY WITH THE, UH, REZONING AS WELL. UM, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION, UH, IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN SURROUNDING LAND USES AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE CONFORMS TO THE UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED FOR THIS GENERAL AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLANS, SUBURBAN RESIDE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF THE NORTHERN DINWITTY DEVELOPMENT AREA. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S HERE AS WELL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU MR. BASS. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL TO SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR. HI, MY NAME IS JOHN WALSH. UM, AND I AGREE WITH MR. BASSETT. I OWN THAT PROPERTY, BUT I ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY BEHIND IT TOWARDS THE WEST, I WOULD GUESS YOU'D SAY. UM, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN BUILDING OR GARAGE JUST FOR PERSONAL USE. THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL. SOUNDS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. CUT DRY , NOTHING CRAZY. WE GOT A SMALL HOUSE. NOT AT ALL. I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MARK, SO I'M SORRY I LET HIM GET OUT THE HOT SEAT FIRST. OH, OKAY. BUT NONE FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FOR HIM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MARK, CAN YOU YES. ANSWER FOR ME. RESIDENTIAL, UH, R ONE VERSUS R ONE. IS THERE DIFFERENT CODES FOR WHAT TYPE OF ANIMALS YOU CAN HAVE? NO, NO, THEY'RE THE SAME AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF ANIMALS THEY ALLOW 'EM THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IN THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, CORRECT? YES IT DOES. RIGHT? CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO RIGHT. MAKE SURE, BUT THE R ONE AND I THOUGHT THAT'S RIGHT WHEN IT WAS RR ONE I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SAME. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IF NOT, I WANTED TO ASK SOME PROVISION TO PROTECT THE OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT. THAT WERE IN THERE. RIGHT. IT'S IDENTICAL TO [00:30:01] WHAT'S ALLOWED AND REQUIRED UNDER R ONE DISTRICT, CORRECT? YEAH. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I'M NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CASE. MR. CHAIR, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I NOW CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING IT IS BACK IN THE HANDS OF US. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION IF Y'ALL ARE READY, BE IT RESOLVED THAT AN ORDER TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN. IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH 25 DASH 14 BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. SECOND, MR. TIMUS? AYE. MR. LANGLEY? AYE. MS. BISHOP? AYE. MR. HAYES? YES. AND MR. HALL? AYE FIVE MEMBERS FOR VOTING? OUR P DASH 25 DASH SEVEN HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU SIR. AND MA'AM, AS YOU, AS I SAID TO THE OTHER CASE, SO FAR SO GOOD. , THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING. ARE WE, ARE WE OKAY TO LEAVE? YES. OKAY. THEY'LL START YELLING IN THE MIDDLE, SO , GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. YOU TOO. OKAY, NOW WE'RE READY FOR THE OLD BUSINESS. THERE'S NO, NO OLD BUSINESS, MR. CHAIR. UM, [9. NEW BUSINESS] WE'RE READY FOR NEW BUSINESS. UH, I GUESS I CAN BRING THIS UP NOW. UNDER NEW BUSINESS, OUR SCHEDULE OF PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WILL YOU ALL WILL BE VOTING ON, UH, NEXT MONTH AT YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, UM, FOR OUR CALENDAR FOR YEAR 2026, UM, IN NOVEMBER. UM, NOVEMBER 11TH IS VETERANS DAY AND THAT'S THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH WHEN YOU WOULD NORMALLY BE HOLDING YOUR REGULAR MEETING. UM, IN THE PAST, WE HAVE MOVED OUR MEETING FROM THAT DAY SINCE THAT IS A HOLIDAY FOR THE COUNTY OPERATIONS. UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS JUST MOVE IT TO THE NEXT DAY, THE THURSDAY. WANTED TO JUST ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE HOLD OUR MEETING NEXT MONTH. HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD HANDLE THAT? I'M FINE WITH THAT. MR. COOK OR HOW YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. DO I KNOW MY SCHEDULE A YEAR FROM NOW, ? NO, BUT I'LL MAKE IT WORK. . OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE, OUR MEETING WOULD BE ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH. MM-HMM . VERSUS THE THANK YOU SIR. TYPE FORM. OKAY, MR. DREW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. I'M FINE, THANK YOU. OR YEAH, YOUR BUSINESS. WE'RE [11. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS] NOW DOWN TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS. UM, SO FAR FOR NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. WE HAVE ONE CASE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON. IT IS A, UM, AS YOU ALL DID FOR THE UH, MINI STORAGE FACILITY, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY THEIR BUFFER AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON, I GUESS THAT'S, IS IT SIMPSON ROAD? UM, CPEC, UH, TRUCK REPAIR BUSINESS. AS I SAID, THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDER DESTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION. THEY WANT TO MODIFY THEIR BUFFER, REDUCE THEIR BUFFER ON THE PROPERTY. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 75 FEET NOW. THEY WANT TO REDUCE IT TO 50 FEET ALONG PROPERTY LINES. SO WE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE SCHEDULING THAT FOR YARD JANUARY MEETING TO HEAR THAT REQUEST. [10. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] I SKIPPED OVER COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS. IS IT, I HAD A QUESTION. I GUESS I, I GUESS THE, THE LOU JONES SOLAR THING IS STILL KIND OF JUST HANGING OUT THERE, RIGHT? THAT IS GOING TO THE BOARD NEXT WEEK, NEXT TUESDAY. OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT THEY'RE GONNA BE HEARING THAT NEXT TUESDAY. OKAY. THEY DID DEFER, UM, TO THE DECEMBER MEETING AND SO NOW I KNOW WHAT I'LL WATCH ON TELEVISION NEXT TUESDAY. . YEAH, IT'LL BE THAT CASE. AND ALSO THE UH, CASE THAT YOU ALL HEARD IN WEST PETERSBURG, RIGHT. WITH THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE REQUESTED FOR REZONING THERE. THAT'LL BE HEARD THE SAME NIGHT. DO WE, DO WE KNOW IF THEY EVER GOT WITH VDOT AND [00:35:01] THEM ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, AT A STAFF LEVEL, UH, AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UM, WITH VDOT AND THEY DID NOTE THAT AND SAID THEY WOULD LOOK, LOOK AT THAT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THEY COULD DO WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO HELP WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ALSO, UM, TALKED WITH UH, DEWEY COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY AND UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL. IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP ABOUT, AT ONE POINT ABOUT FLUSHING THE HYDRANTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AS WELL. OKAY. THAT WAS OUR NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. THANK YOU SIR. YEP. SPEAKING OF SOLAR, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE GOT A PHONE CALL. OKAY. EVERYBODY'S SHAKING THEIR HEAD. . . OKAY. AND THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, THIS MORNING THAT, THAT TOUR. SO YEAH, I HAD TO WORK. SO SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND MY ASKING, MR. CHAIR, WHAT WERE THEY REQUESTING? IT WAS A COMPANY, IT WAS A SOLAR COMPANY. IT WAS LIKE A SITE TOUR YES. OF THE FACILITY AND IT WAS AND WHERE, WHERE WAS THE LOCATION? I'M JUST CURIOUS SINCE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT SAID CHESTERFIELD, BUT THE ADDRESS IS MOUNT HARMON ROAD. MOSLEY, VIRGINIA. YEAH, IT'S CHESTERFIELD. YEAH. WAS THAT RELATED TO THE LOU JONES SOLAR PROJECT? NO, I THINK, I THINK THEY WERE JUST INVITING DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT SOLAR TRYING TO GET OKAY. I'M SORRY, DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS TO I SEE IT, IT WAS, IT WAS SENT AS THAT INVITE TO OKAY, COME AND YEAH, JUST TAKE A WALK THROUGH AND LOOK AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THERE. JUST SITTING THERE TRYING TO BETTER EDUCATE EVERYBODY ON SOLAR. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I TOOK OUT OF IT. . OKAY. MR. MR. CHAIR, YOU HAD ASKED ME DID I HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND Y'ALL JUST STRUCK SOMETHING UP. IT'S MORE OF A PERSONAL INTEREST AND A LEGAL INTEREST THAN, UH, THAN ANYTHING ELSE. BUT, UH, IN MY RECENT TRAVELS, UM, I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE GO PAST SOLAR FACILITIES IN DIFFERENT STATES AND UH, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT AND UM, SOME STATES CONTAIN THEM TO SMALL ACRE AND I SAY SMALL ACRES, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MUCH OVER 10 ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LOOKS LIKE A FIELD WHEN YOU'RE GOING PAST MM-HMM BUT MY POINT OF IT IS JUST NOTED TO MYSELF, I'VE BEEN PAST SOME SOLAR FACILITIES AND WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE I LIVE. IT'S IT EVEN WITH THE, IT'S A MESS. AND WHEN I SAY A MESS, AND THIS IS ME, I, MY FAMILY, THEY USED TO SAY, AND Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, BEING RURAL, YOU, YOU GOT CLEAN FARMERS AND YOU GOT OTHER TYPES OF FARMERS AND YOU GOT CLEAN SOLAR FACILITIES AND THEN YOU GOT OTHER TYPES OF SOLAR FACILITIES AND, UM, THERE'S ONE AGAIN, NOT TOO FAR FROM ME, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE BUFFER OFF THE ROAD, I WAS LIKE, GOOD LORD, IT'S JUST A MESS. IT'S JUST WEEDY AND STUFF GROWING UP AND I'D ALMOST RATHER SEE IT BESIDE THE ROAD THAN WHAT IT'S DOING. BUT HIS RAMP POINT IS, AND I SAW SEVERAL IN MY TRAVELS, UM, THAT WERE NEAT AND EVIDENTLY THEY HAD SHEEP OR SOMETHING GRAZING UNDERNEATH THEM, BUT THEY WOULD NEAT AND CLEAN AND QUITE FRANKLY IT JUST STRUCK ME AS I WAS GOING PAST THEM. YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULDN'T MIND THIS ONE BEING BESIDE MY HOME . I REALLY WOULDN'T MIND THE OTHER ONE BEING BESIDE MY HOME AND IT JUST HITTING MY HEAD. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT, BUT I JUST WANNA PLANT A SEED. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME WE COULDN'T HAVE A WEED, TALL GRASS SLASH ORDINANCE FOR SOLAR FACILITIES BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE MANAGEMENT OF IT AND OUR ORDINANCE AND YOU UNDERSTAND, DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT STRUCK ME AS TO, UH, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD DRAFT ONE UP JUST IN CASE. MAY HAVE TO, BUT I JUST, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN, ANYWAY, AGAIN, IT JUST IMPRESSED UPON ME THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THE FACILITIES WERE MANAGED, WHETHER I WOULD BE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE IF I WAS A HOMEOWNER BESIDE IT. SO THAT'S IT. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, I HAVE, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IT MADE ME THINK, I WAS TALKING TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVES IN ANOTHER COUNTY IN VIRGINIA, UM, PROPERTY OWNER. AND THE PROPERTY, THIS PERSON'S FAMILY MEMBER, UM, HAS SOLAR ON THEIR PROPERTY AND AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT OR UH, OPTION OR WHATEVER ON THE PROPERTY TO LOCATE [00:40:01] THE FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, ACTUALLY PART OF THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT THE OPERATOR OF THE SOLAR FACILITY PAID HIM TO MAIN, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS GONNA MAINTAIN THE PORTION OF THE FACILITY THAT WAS LOCATED ON HIS PROPERTY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY OWNER MADE THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE FACILITY OPERATOR FOR THE, HIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MR. DREWRY SAID BECAUSE IT SURROUNDED HIS PROPERTY AND HE WANTED THAT PART OF THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK GOOD THAT WAS SURROUNDING HIS PROPERTY. SO THE OPERATOR WAS ACTUALLY PAYING HIM TO MAINTAIN THAT PART OF THE FACILITY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. BUT THAT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE, YOU KNOW, COUNTY APPROVAL. IT WAS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE, THE OWNER AND THE OPERATOR. I, I BELIEVE MORGAN DID, WAS IT THE REEVES ROAD SITE THAT HAD CAUGHT FIRE OF THE WEEK? YEP. OH YEAH. UH, AND I THINK THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH TALL GRASS. TALL GRASS AND STUFF AND DRY GRASS AND REFLECTION OF THE PANELS OR WHATEVER THAT CAUSED THAT. BUT THAT WAS QUITE A FIASCO. DID IT DO SOME DAMAGE? I'M SURE IT DID. I MEAN THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN HAVE A FIRE UNDER ONE OF THOSE THINGS AND, AND NOT CAUSE SOME TYPE OF ELECTRICAL DEGRADATION IN THE WIRING. UH, IT MAY NOT HAVE BROKE THE PANEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'M SURE SOMETHING GOT MESSED UP. BUT THAT WOULD GO TO YOUR, HOW YOU MAINTAIN THE GRASS UNDERNEATH. OF COURSE THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITES. THAT'S THE FARMER THAT ISN'T CLEAN . NO, I, I UNDERSTAND AND I'M JUST MAKING ANOTHER COMMENT ON THIS. AND AGAIN, IT JUST, AS A FARMER WHEN I WENT BY, IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE WAS ACTIVELY MANAGING THE GOOD LOOKING ONES AND I, I WOULD SAY THIS PROBABLY THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF YOU COULD PUT UNDERNEATH IT WAS SHEEP. RIGHT? IT LOOKED LIKE A WELL MANICURED PASTURE AND FENCE LINES AND IT WAS FINE. I, YOU KNOW, SO WELL I'VE HEARD I'M PUTTING SHEEP AND GOATS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THEM AND EVERYTHING, BUT, AND I THINK YOU'RE FINE FOR THAT, BUT EVENTUALLY I THINK SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY YOU'RE DOING HARM TO THEM ANIMALS BY PUTTING THEM ON THE NEAL THAT ELECTRICITY, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY ABOUT THE POWER LINES AROUND SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK EVENTUALLY SOMEBODY'S GONNA JUMP ON THAT WAGON AND SAY YOU'RE DOING THAT. SO, OR AROUND ATHLETIC FACILITIES. , I'M JUST SAYING. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANNA SAY, I WANNA WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND SAFE TRAVELS IF YOU TRAVELING. WISH YOUR FAMILIES THE BEST. SAME TO ALL OF Y'ALL. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND I'LL PLUG IN FOR CHRISTMAS. THE CHRISTMAS SHARING PROGRAM IS TOMORROW THOUGH. IT CONTINUES UNTIL TOMORROW. SO IF ANYBODY IS FREE AND WANTS TO HELP AT EAST SIDE FROM EIGHT TO FOUR AT EAST SIDE. MM-HMM . MM-HMM I HELPED TODAY. SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE THE COMMUNITY OUT, BUT, OKAY. UM, SINCE THERE'S NO MORE CASES AND YOU MAY BE WONDERING, THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, WELL THAT PERSON IS MY WIFE. JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU ALL TO HER. HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HAPPY. NICE TO HAVE YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WAS WITH THE NEWSPAPER OR SOMETHING. . NOW SHE WANTED PROOF OF WHERE I'D BE GOING. OH, $50 TOO. . SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE HIM. . MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE A ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.