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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
UM, FOR THE JULY MEETING, AND, UH, IF WE COULD ALL STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE AND ALLEGIANCE, ET CETERA, OUR PLEDGE AND ALLEGIANCE, TO DO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
FOUR.UH, DOES ANYONE OR ANY COMMISSION MEMBER OR STAFF HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? STAFF HAS NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NUMBER FIVE IS OUR APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES.I KNOW A FEW FOLKS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HERE LAST MONTH, BUT, UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CORRECTIONS FOR THAT HEARING? NONE.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS GIVEN TO US? I SECOND.
THREE MEMBERS VOTING ON TWO MEMBERS ABSTAINED.
SO, UM, LOOKING AT IT INTO THE EXPANSE OF THE AUDIENCE, UH, ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, UM, MOVING, WENT ALONG TO PUBLIC
[7. PUBLIC HEARING]
HEARINGS THEN.AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, OUR FIRST CASE IS P DASH 26 DASH FOUR.
MR. CHAIR, THIS CASE IS MUCH LIKE MANY CASES WE'VE ALREADY HEARD.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE DISPENSE WITH THE READING OF THE INFORMATION WE WERE ALL SENT, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE ON PAST CASES, JUST LIKE THIS.
I, I, YOU GAVE ME AN IDEA FOR, WE'LL DISCUSS LATER ON THAT, BUT, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING, I MEAN, I, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE ANYTHING WAS UNUSUALLY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS.
THE STAFF, THE STAFF AGREED THAT THERE'S, UH, REALLY NOTHING SUBSTANTIVELY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS THAN MANY OF THE OTHER RECENT CASES.
UM, STAFF IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
UM, YOU DO HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, UM, IN YOUR PACKET FOR THIS EVENING, UM, FOR THAT CASE.
AND, UM, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, THIS EVENING THAT'S COME TO LIGHT RELATED TO THE CASE OR THAT STAFF HAS TO ADD IN ADDITION TO THE STAFF REPORT, UM, FOR THAT CASE.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE ARE REFERRING TO CASE P 26 DASH FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IS THIS THE APPLICANT? NO, I, I SAW ONE WAS MORGAN, WASN'T IT? MM-HMM
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY WE OUGHT TO LET FOLKS SPEAK IF THEY WANNA SPEAK NOW.
MS. CHAIR, IF I CAN ADDRESS MR. M'S.
UM, THE, UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST WALKED IN, HE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE NEXT CASE, P DASH 26 DASH THREE.
I'LL THROW, I'LL THROW THIS OUT.
IS ANYONE, HAS ANYONE READ ANYTHING IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR PP DASH 26 DASH FOUR THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EXPLAINED OR FURTHER ARTICULATED? ALRIGHT.
BEING NO THE CASE, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISPENSE WITH PLANNING DIRECTOR READING THIS CASE AND COMMENTING ON IT TO US.
WOULD I BE WRONG, MR. CHAIR, TO JUST SAY FOR ADMINISTRATIVELY WE OPEN AND CLOSE PUBLIC? SURE.
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SO, ON A OPEN, UH, CASE, UH, P DASH 26 DASH FOUR, UH, UNDERSTAND YOU'RE HERE TO, SIR TO SPEAK TO D DASH THREE.UM, SO YOU, I JUST WANNA CHECK, MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO DORSEY THOMAS JR.
FOR P DASH 26 DASH FOUR, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
I JUST WANNA VERIFY, UM, THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH NO SPEAKERS THEN, UH, I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 26 DASH FOUR AND UH, I ADMIT I WAS JUMPING THE GUN A MINUTE AGO.
I WAS LOOKING FOR A MOTION
ALRIGHT, UH, BE IT RESOLVED AND IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN, IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH 26 DASH FOUR AS PRESENTED, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
MR. LANGLEY? AYE I MS. DAY? YES.
UM, SO OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, P DASH 26 DASH THREE.
UM, AND, UH, I KNOW WE WOULD LIKE, WE WANNA GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, BUT IS THERE A SIMILAR THOUGHT HERE OR NOT? YEAH, I DON'T NEED TO HEAR ANYTHING, BUT I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WHO'S THIS? HOW ABOUT AN ABBREVIATED? THERE YOU GO.
SO, MR. BASSETT, THERE'S YOUR DIRECTION, SIR.
UH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ON YOUR, YOUR SCREENS THE SLIDE, UH, FOR THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE'RE HERE, UH, CONSIDERING THIS EVENING FOR CASE P DASH 26 DASH THREE.
UM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PREVIOUS CASE, UH, MR. MERRICK IS HERE TO AS THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THE SUBJECT REZONING, THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS, UM, 0.71 ACRES, UH, FROM AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO TO BUSINESS GENERAL B TWO.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE EAST SIDE OF BOYTON PLANK ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL A TWO.
THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THE GENERAL AREA THAT ARE ALSO ZONED A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL.
THOSE ARE MAINLY ON THE, AGAIN, ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF ROUTE ONE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ROUTE ONE.
ACROSS ROUTE ONE, THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, UH, THAT INCLUDES THE DIMWIT MOOSE LODGE, UH, WHICH WAS REZONED TO B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL BACK IN, UH, 2012.
AND THEN ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THERE IS PROPERTY ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, JUST NORTH OF THAT THERE IS VACANT PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, UH, THAT WAS REZONED IN 1996 AND THEN ADDITIONALLY UP THE ROAD FROM THAT, UH, GOING NORTH AND AGAIN ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE REVOLUTION MOTORSPORT AND RELIABLE RENTALS, UH, THAT WAS REZONED TO B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL BACK IN 2007.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAD STATED IN HIS APPLICATION THAT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL TO CONSTRUCT A 24 FOOT BY 40 FOOT BUILDING FOR OFFICE SPACE AND STORAGE, UH, IN THE B TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
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IF A PROPERTY IS ZONED B TWO, UH, BUSINESS THAT, UH, WILL BE FOR THE, UM, CONDUCT OF GENERAL BUSINESS TO WHICH THE PUBLIC REQUIRES DIRECT AND FREQUENT ACCESS, BUT WITH, BUT WHICH IS NOT CHARACTERIZED EITHER BY CONSTANT HEAVY TRUCKING OR OTHER STOCKING AND DELIVERY OF LIGHT RETAIL GOODS OR BY ANY NUISANCE FACTORS OTHER THAN OCCASIONED BY INCIDENTAL LIGHT NOISE OF CONGESTION OF PEOPLE AND PASSENGER VEHICLES.THIS INCLUDES SUCH USES AS RETAIL STORES, BANKS, THEATERS, BUSINESS OFFICES, NEWSPAPER OFFICES, PRINTING PRESSES, RESTAURANTS, TAVERNS AND GARAGES AND SERVICE STATIONS.
GIVEN THE SURROUNDING B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL ZONE PROPERTY AND COMMERCIAL USES, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WELL SUITED FOR THE B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL ZONING, THE DEWINE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN WHAT WE CALL THE SUBURBAN AREA OF THE NORTHERN DENWITTY DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND DETACH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA.
THE B TWO DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
UH, WHEN WE TOOK THE APPLICATION TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, REAL CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECT.
UM, AND VDOT UH, DID REVIEW THE PROJECT, UH, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, UH, A FULL COMMERCIAL ACCESS ENTRANCE MUST, UH, MUST BE UTILIZED, UH, TO ACCESS THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND, UM, WHEN THE SITE PLAN IS BROUGHT BEFORE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UM, THE, UH, VDOT WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PRO PROCESS, AND RESERVES THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UM, BEYOND WHAT IS, UH, PROVIDED FOR US THIS EVENING, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE NO, I I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, ONE IS, I JUST DIDN'T CHECK THIS, THAT'S MY FAULT, BUT I NOTICED IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY A A LOT HAD BEEN CLEARED.
IS THIS THE SAME? IS THIS THE SAME, UH, PROPERTY? YES.
THIS, THIS LOT HAS BEEN CLEARED? YES.
RECENTLY CLEARED? RECENTLY, YES.
UM, THE OTHER THING I JUST CURIOUS THAT YOU WROTE THIS UP, UH, I, I, THE, THE, THE IF TURN LANES ARE WARRANTED THERE WILL BE REQUIRED TO ME THAT'S KIND OF OPEN-ENDED.
WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY WAS INTENT THERE WAS A RIGHT TURN LANE, BUT I COULD CONSTRUE THAT AS A LEFT TURN LANE TOO, WHICH WOULD BE AWFUL EXPENSIVE.
AND I JUST, I WAS JUST, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD ARTICULATE THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE.
WE'RE JUST, UH, WE PUT THAT IN THERE, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED DURING THE SITE CLAIM REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, IF IT, IF IT IS WARRANTED, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT IN AS PART OF THE, THE, UH, REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT'S A LOW RISK, BUT I KNOW VI KNOW THE VDO PERSPECTIVE IS ON THAT IS JUST GONNA BE THE RIGHT TURN LANE, SO.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT HERE.
SO, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS? UM, I THINK THAT BASSETT THERE WITH ME.
UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? UM, ALL RIGHT.
UH, AND MR. GURLEY REMINDED ME OF THIS EARLIER, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING HERE FOR THAT.
UM, AS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, THIS IS P DASH 26 DASH THREE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN OVER THERE.
I'M NOT SURE MR. G'S SCREEN BEHIND YOU IS NOT WORKING.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE CASE ACROSS FROM, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH THE MOOSE LODGE.
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ON THAT TONIGHT? NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK.SO I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT AND, UH, I GUESS IT'S TIME TO HAVE A LITTLE CONVERSATION OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE OF EITHER THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
I, I GUESS TO MY, MY QUESTION ABOUT THE TURN LANE, DO YOU HAVE A, OR DO YOU HAVE A, A SPECIFIC PLAN TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? OR ARE YOU JUST DOING THIS MORE SPECULATIVELY? UH, JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT OR NOT? UH, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, I GUESS, KIND OF KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
IT'S NOT, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO USE IT BY, FOR OFFICE SPACE, PART OF IT, FOR OFFICE SPACE AND THE REST FOR STORAGE.
IS IT AN EXISTING BUSINESS? YES.
AND, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
SO IS THIS EXISTING BUSINESS NEARBY? YEAH, UM, J AUTOMOTIVE.
OKAY, SO IT ADJACENT PARCEL TO THE SOUTH, DIDN'T IT? SAY WHAT NOW? IT, IT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH, RIGHT? RIGHT NEAR, UH, YEAH.
YEAH, JUST, JUST PAST, UH, WHERE THE BUSINESS IS FROM ACROSS FROM THE MOOSE LODGE? YES SIR.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE NONE.
OH, YOU MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION.
ALL GOOD? NO, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP MR. MERRICK.
I KNOW MR. MERRICK AND HE DID, HE HAD A BUSINESS THERE FOR YEARS AND HE, APPARENTLY HE IS RETIRED AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING MORE RELAXING,
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS RESOLUTION BE IT RESOLVED THAT IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15 DASH TWO DASH 2286 A SEVEN.
IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THAT ZONING REZONING P DASH 26 DASH THREE BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR FOR COMING.
UM, WE NOW HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER CASES THAT ARE RELATED TO, UH, UH, RELATED TO OUR, UH, AMENDMENTS.
AND THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, CASE A DASH 26 DASH TWO.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UH, ZONING TAX AMENDMENT A DASH 26 DASH TWO.
UH, THIS IS RELATED TO MANUFACTURED HOMES ON UH, AND SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ORIENTATION LOTS.
UH, THIS IS RESPONSE TO HOUSE BILL SIX 50, UH, 6 55 REGARDING, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE MANUFACTURED FACTORED HOUSING, UH, IS REQUIRED TO BE PERMITTED.
UM, WE'VE, UH, UH, DRAFTED THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE TO COMPLY WITH A NEW STATE LEGISLATION, UH, THAT REQUIRES ALL, ALL, UM, TO ALLOW MANUFACTURED HOMES IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY WE DEVELOPED A NEW SUPPLEMENTAL SECTION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ORIENTATION LOTS.
UM, BRIEFLY, UH, THE LANGUAGE MANUFACTURED HOMES IF CONVERTED TO REAL PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 46.2 DASH 6 5 3 0.1 B CONSTRUCTED SO THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED WITHIN FIVE YEARS FOLLOWING THE DATE OF THE MANUFACTURER LISTED ON THE HOMES DATA PLATE AND C PLACED ON INDIVIDUAL LOT.
UM, THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE USES PERMITTED IN RR RRRR ONE, R ONE, R ONE A, R TWO RU AND PRD, THE SUPPLEMENTAL SECTION REGARDING LOT ORIENTATION.
UM, THIS STATES THAT ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS
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SHALL BE LOCATED SO THAT A MAIN ENTRY DOOR FACES THE STREET ON WHICH THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS LOCATED EXCEPT WHEN THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS LOCATED AT LEAST 105 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE OF A STREET ON WHICH THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS LOCATED.I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS, ANSWER MINE IN THE WORKSHOP.
ALRIGHT, SO BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP, UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK, UH, TO THIS CASE, A DASH 26 DASH TWO AS MR. CULBERT EXPLAINED.
ANYONE, UH, WANTING TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THAT CASE? OKAY.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, JUST ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONVERSATIONS? ARE YOU WANTING TO DO THAT? NO.
I'LL TAKE IT IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 2 2 85 AND 15.2 DASH 2 2 86 A SEVEN, THE DENWITTY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICE WARRANT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE DENWITTY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS A DASH 26 DASH TWO AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING AYE.
NEXT CASE IS A SIMILAR PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, CASE A DASH 26 DASH THREE.
UM, I'LL BE PRESENTING, UH, ZONING TAX AMENDMENT A DASH 26 DASH THREE.
THIS IS RELATED TO APPEALS OF THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, UM, HOUSE BILL 1 9 8 REGARDING THE APPEALS PROCESS OF A DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, UM, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED THE ATTACHED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO COMPLY AND ALIGN WITH THE NEW REGULATION.
THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO ADD.
SO I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU MYSELF ON THIS.
WE LEARNED EARLIER THAT YOU KNOW WHAT ANTI PENULTIMATE MEANS.
NOW I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT DOES CERTA OR MEAN FIRST LINE
I'M GONNA LEARN SOMETHING TODAY MYSELF.
IT BASICALLY MEANS TO CALL UP.
SO WHEN A A COURT GIVES A WR OF SEARCHER, IT MEANS WE'RE CALLING IT UP TO SEE IT.
SO ER, TO REVIEW DECISION A BOARD WOULD MEAN THE CIRCUIT COURT SAYS WE'RE CALLING UP THIS DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, WE'RE GONNA REVIEW IT.
ALWAYS LEARN SOME EVERY DAY IT.
HOW MANY ELSE? HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE KNEW THAT HERE I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE, UH, HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TO SPEAK TO THAT AND ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR ALPHA 26? THREE.
HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, DEFINITION THERE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW I GOT THIS ONE.
WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE 15.2 DASH 2 2 85 AND 15.2 DASH 2 2 86 A SEVEN, THE DIMITY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IN ITS OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC
NOW THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE ITY PLANNING COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT A DASH 26 DASH THREE AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.
FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING ON.
ALRIGHT, OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING IS CASE A DASH 26 POINT
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OR DASH FOUR.UH, THIS IS ZONING TAX AMENDMENT A DASH 26 DASH FOUR.
THIS IS RELATED TO HIGH ENERGY USE FACILITIES.
UM, HOUSE BILL 94, UM, WAS REGARDING THE SITING OF HIGH ENERGY USE FACILITIES.
UM, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS.
WE ADDED THE DEFINITION OF HIGH ENERGY USE FACILITY TO DEFINITION SECTION, UM, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHED ANOTHER SUPPLEMENTARY SECTION WITH LANGUAGE TO FOLLOW THE NEW LEGISLATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ONE.
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THAT OUT THERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN YOU
UM, SO THE DEFINITION OF HIGH ENERGY USE FACILITY IS A FACILITY THAT AN APPLICANT REASONABLY ANTICIPATES AT THE TIME OF FILING A REZONING APPLICATION OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE 100 MEGAWATTS OR MORE OF ELECTRICAL POWER FROM AN ELECTRICAL UTILITY PROVIDER RETAIL SERVICE TO THE FACILITY.
SO ANY, ANY ANY PROPOSED PROJECT THAT'S OVER 100 MEGAWATTS.
AND, AND DIDN'T WE HEAR IN THE WORKSHOP THAT, UM, THE GIDO STEEL IS A LIKELY EXAMPLE OF THAT? OH, OKAY.
WHEREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH VA CODE 15.2 DASH 2285 AND 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN, THE DEWE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, FAIL WELFARE OR GOOD ZONING PRACTICE WARRANT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING ZONE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE DEITY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HEREBY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS A DASH 26 DASH FOUR AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
[8. OLD BUSINESS]
SO MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT.UH, ANY COMMISSIONER OR STAFF HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS TO SHARE TONIGHT? I HAVE NO BUSINESS CHAIR, MR. CHAIR.
MR. BASSETT, HOW ABOUT NEW BUSINESS? YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS FOR US? NO NEW BUSINESS.
ANY, ANY FELLOW COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? ALRIGHT,
[10. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.SO WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SP ANY, UH, COMMENTS HERE? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD? I'LL MAKE ONE COMMENT.
UH, LAST MONTH WE HEARD THE CASE, UH, ABOUT THE GARAGE AT THE END OF, I BELIEVE I FORGET THE NAME OF THE DRIVE.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WONDERING WHAT SPURRED THAT AFTER THE MEETING, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE BEING CITED FOR TOO MANY INOPERABLE VEHICLES AT THE END OF THAT ROAD.
AND I JUST, I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION OF COUNSEL THAT WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T KNOW DURING THE MEETING AND HE SAID, NO, WE COULD'VE KNOWN THAT.
AND I WOULD JUST ASK MAYBE WE KNOW THAT.
I MEAN, IT JUST HELPS ME AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS OF PROBABLY DWINDLING DOWN HOW MANY CARS IN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT I WOULD ALLOW AT SUCH A FACILITY OR, UM, THINKING ABOUT HOW IT CAME ABOUT WHY KIND OF GIVES YOU A DIRECTIVE ON MERITS OF THE CASE ITSELF.
AND I I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS SOMETHING LEGAL THAT WE COULDN'T KNOW.
AND I MEAN, I THINK IT ALL WORKED OUT LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK OUT.
SO, BUT I JUST, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I, I, UH, HOW ABOUT ALL Y'ALL DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE KNOWN THAT? SO, SO TO YOUR POINT, AND I REMEMBER SOMETHING YOU SAID TO ME ABOUT A CASE SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT LED ME TO ASK ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CLEARED LOT A WHILE AGO
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WAS, UM, YOU MAY RECALL A CASE IN MCKINNEY, UM, WHERE SOMEBODY HAD GONE OUT AND WERE LOOKING TO, TO GET A, A REZONING, BUT THEY HAD GONE OUT AND, UH, WITHOUT A PERMIT.AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? WITHOUT A PERMIT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A, A LAND USE PERMIT TO DO THAT.
AND THEY CAME BEFORE US AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE I GUESS I WAS JUST TOO STUPID TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
AND THEN I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU AFTER THE, AFTERWARDS AND YOU SAID THE SAME THING THEN THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THAT.
AND, AND SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD, I THINK A STAFF REPORT SHOULD BE THOROUGH ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE KINDS OF, OF CONDITIONS, UH, AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT.
UNLESS LEGALLY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIVULGE THAT INFORMATION.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WANT TO PROVIDE IS THE VIOLATION THEY RECEIVED WAS, WAS THAT THEY WERE OPERATING ANY LEGAL BUSINESS AND THAT BUSINESS THEY WERE OPERATING WOULD REQUIRE A BUSINESS LICENSE, UH, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, I KNOW WE THREW AROUND THE HOME OCCUPATION SIDE OF IT.
UH, WHEN I RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT, I TYPED IN THE ADDRESS AND BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES I SAW THERE, THAT WAS NOT A HOME OCCUPATION.
THAT WAS A FULL FLEDGED AUTO MECHANIC BUSINESS.
AND SO THE DILATION THEY GOT WAS, UM, WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE OPERATING A BUSINESS IN THE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL DISTRICT THAT REQUIRED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
I AGREE WITH AS TO WHY IT WASN'T IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO REVERT TO MR. VAX AND BUT 60 WOULD'VE ALSO SPURRED 60 CARS WOULD'VE ALSO SPURRED ANOTHER VIOLATION AT AT THAT YES.
THEY'RE VIOLATION OF THAT TOO.
SO I, AND I KNOW THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING YOU CHARGED THAT PERSON WITH, BUT I'M SURE YOU MADE THEM WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THAT WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE YES.
IT, IT, TO ME THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, POINT TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING.
UM, I WOULD FEEL LIKE THAT BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID, IT PAINTED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PICTURE.
SO, AND I GET THAT YOU, YOU WERE CORRECT.
YOU DID TELL US ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS OPERATING WHAT YOU CONSIDERED TO BE YES.
A BUSINESS THAT WAS UNAUTHORIZED OR OUTTA THE SCOPE OF A HOME YEAH.
FRIENDLY BUSINESS, WHATEVER IT WAS.
SO I JUST, IF YOU THINK THERE'S ANOTHER VIOLATION, PLEASE BRING IT UP.
WELL, I GUESS TO GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK THERE.
DO Y'ALL FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN THE FUTURE? SO I DO THINK IT HELPS MAKE A MORE BALANCED, UH, UH, VOTE FOR US.
I, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
UM, SOME OF THE THINKING BEHIND THAT IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO TAINT THE APPLICATION OR DEFAME THE APPLICANT BY, UM, MAKING THAT AN EMPHASIS OF OUR STAFF REPORT OR, UM, THE THINKING I GUESS IS IT'S A LAND USE DECISION.
SO WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE FOCUSING ON THE, THE LAND USE ITSELF AND NOT THAT, THAT THEY ALREADY IN VIOLATION.
AND MAKING THAT DECISION BASED ON, AND I GET THAT ASPECT TOO.
I UNDERSTAND THE NOT WANTING, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS THAT JUST PLAIN THE THINKING.
I'M, I'M, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOU ALL'S, UH, WANTING TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION, BUT HMM.
THAT COULD, THAT'S THE THINKING ON ON THAT FROM STAFF STANDPOINT.
COULD THAT BE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THIS? HMM.
I I GUESS I WANNA WATCH HOW I PHRASE WHAT I'M GETTING READY TO SAY.
COULD THAT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN AN EMAIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING? PUT IT IN AN EMAIL.
I KNOW IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC RECORD.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THE AGENDA WAS.
SO IT WOULD HAVE THE BASIC ANSWER TO THAT IS I THINK AS DANIELLE SAID, NO, IT, BUT YOU COULD MAKE IT PART OF THE APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, LE LEGALLY IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO KNOW.
BUT I I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF, THEY DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT IF THEY SAY SOMETHING, THEY HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY IS TRUE AS WELL.
UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THEY WANTED TO FOCUS YOU ON THE MERITS OF THE ZONING CASE.
AND, AND IF I JUST MAY ADD BRIEFLY TO THAT, UM, IT, IT IS IMPORTANT I THINK, UM, EVEN IF, EVEN IF THE COMMISSION DOES
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KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT I, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH BOTH TYLER AND, AND THE PLANE DIRECTOR THAT THE, THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU REALLY IS A FOCUS ON, ON LAND USE.UM, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT THERE WAS ALSO A CONDITIONAL USE.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND HE DID EXPLAIN THAT, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT PART WAS FINE, BUT AS FAR AS KNOWING JUST ALL VIOLATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH OTHER UNRELATED PROPERTIES, I JUST, I THINK THE FOCUS REALLY SHOULD BE ON THE LAND USE PERSPECTIVE AND TO WHAT YOU SAID I DID NOT KNOW.
AND THROUGH THE WHOLE CONDITIONAL USE PART OF IT, I HAD ALREADY LIMITED THE NUMBER OF AUTOMOBILES TO WHAT OUR CODE SAYS FOR THE NUMBER OF BAY DOORS.
IT JUST, HOW, HOW ELSE CAN I SAY THAT? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER INFORMATION FOR US WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT.
WELL, MY, MY COUNTER TO WHAT YOU SAID, MARK, UH, TYLER ALREADY KIND OF, KIND OF TOUCHED ON WHERE I WAS GOING, BUT IF IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNDUE BIAS.
IF IT'S FACTUAL AND, AND I, I AGREE.
THERE'S A, YOU GOTTA, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A THRESHOLD THERE ABOUT WHAT'S FACTUAL AND WHAT IS, UH, OPINION, BUT IF, IF IT'S FACTUAL THAT THERE WERE 60 CARS OUT THERE, I DON'T SEE WHY THAT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DISCLOSED.
AND I BELIEVE IF WE WENT, UH, WE WENT BACK AND TO THE RECORDING, I DID MENTION WHAT SPURRED THIS NOW AGREED.
THE ORIGINAL THING WAS THE ACTUAL BUSINESS ITSELF.
BUT BECAUSE WE OVERLOOKED THE SECOND PART OF IT DOESN'T MEAN THE SECOND PART WASN'T IMPORTANT AS WELL, WHICH WAS THE NUMBER OF INOPERABLE VEHICLES THAT ARE THERE.
AND AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WE MADE A DECISION, UM, WHEN WE SEND VIOLATIONS OUT, WE'RE SEEKING COMPLIANCE.
WE FELT THAT THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT COMPLIANCE.
THE LE THE LETTER THEY RECEIVED SAID IN ORDER TO REACH COMPLIANCE, THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND OBTAIN IT.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY DON'T OBTAIN THE, OBTAIN THE CUP THAT EVERYTHING, THE BUSINESS HAS TO STOP, THE CAR'S GOTTA GO.
AND, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE FORMED OF THAT.
AND THE VIOLATION LETTER, IT ISN'T SO MUCH, OH, YOU DO THIS, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO GET EVERYBODY IN COMPLIANCE.
IF WE HAVE A VIOLATION, WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH, WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHICH IS PRETTY UNCOMMON, THIS PARTICULAR THING THEY WERE DOING REQUIRED AN ACTION FROM YOU ALL AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE DOING IT.
SO I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, BUT WE DON'T GO LOOKING FOR 'EM.
SO THAT'S, I CAN DRIVE YOU TO SEVERAL MM-HMM
WELL, WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF REMINDED OF WHEN I USED TO, AS A KID, I LIKED TO WATCH DRAGNET.
I ALWAYS LIKED THE VERY END OF THE STORY, YOU KNOW, AND UM, SO HAS THE BOARD VOTED ON THAT ONE? I WILL BE AT THE JULY MEETING.
SO IT'LL BE COMING UP IN JULY.
I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO YOU, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FACTUAL INFORMATION.
AND WE DID VISIT THE SITE, UM, BUT WE CERTAINLY DID NOT.
SO WE DID NOT INVESTIGATE THE SITE FROM AN, AN OPERABLE VEHICLE STANDPOINT.
SO TECHNICALLY IF YOU ALL HAD ASKED ME DIRECTLY HOW MANY IN OPS ARE OUT THERE, I WOULD'VE HAD TO SAID I, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE RIGHT.
WE DID NOT, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE SITE TO INVESTIGATE THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.
SO I KNOW I JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S ALL.
NO, I'M NOT SURPRISED AT THAT.
'CAUSE YOU CAN SAY, WELL, 59 60, 61 WAS THE RIGHT, BUT CLEARLY IT WAS ABOVE THE NUMBER IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SAID FACTUALLY.
AND MAKE A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE CUP AND THE REZONING I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GRANT A-A-C-U-P, YOU WANT TO, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BEHAVIOR OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR, NOT JUST THE BEHAVIOR OF THE APPLICANT 'CAUSE THE CUP STICKS WITH THAT PROPERTY FOR LIFE.
WHAT OTHER APPLICANTS MIGHT, UH, OR NOT OTHER APPLICANTS OTHER OWNERS MIGHT DO IF THEY HAD THAT.
UH, THAT ONE'S TOUGH TO PREDICT.
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UM, JUST TO, THAT KIND OF POPPED THE QUESTION IN MY HEAD 'CAUSE I FINISHED MY CLASS AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WERE THE CS AND HOW THAT IS MANAGED OVER TIME.WHERE IS THAT STORED HERE AND HOW WOULD A LAND OWNER KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE WHEN THEY BUY IT? UH, LIKE, UH, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING I'M AWARE OF.
UH, CUP IS IS PART OF THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR THE COUNTY.
SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A REPOSITORY FOR ALL OUR CS AND THERE NOW THEY'RE ALL ELECTRONICALLY STORED, UM, THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL AS OUR, UM, ARCHIVES.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY LIKE OWNERSHIP CHANGES AND THEY BUY THAT PROPERTY, WOULD THEY KNOW
YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK.
SO I JUST WAS, WELL, TO FOLLOW UP YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE COUNTY DISCLOSE THAT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, YOU DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
SO IT IT'S REALLY BETWEEN THE, IT'S REALLY BETWEEN THE BUYER AND THE SELLER.
AND I GUESS THE CONCERN THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE FOLLOWING UP ON SOME OF THESE CS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SET SOME OF THESE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP WITH IT OVER TIME.
SO, SO YES, IT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
IT DOES BECOME A PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THERE'S A REPOSITORY, BUT IT'S ALSO IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, THAT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED.
AND IF IT'S NOT, I MEAN ON THE TAIL END, I THINK IF, IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS USING THEIR PROPERTY THAT IS IN VIOLATION, THEN STAFF WOULD KNOW AND THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD BE PUT ON NOTICE.
SO AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, AN OWNER, IF THEY'RE USING THEIR PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON NOTICE AND HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
JUST BEING MINDFUL THAT OVER TIME THAT STUFF CAN GET LOST.
AND THIS IS THE AGE OLD QUESTION OF BUYER BEWARE.
BECAUSE, UH, THE GENTLEMAN THAT BOUGHT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY BY THE STATE POLICE THAT ENDED UP CLEARING IT HAD HE WENT AND INVESTIGATED EVERYTHING HE COULD ON THAT HE WOULD'VE FOUND OUT BEFORE HE EVER CLEARED THE LAND, WHAT WAS REQUIRED OF HIM WHEN HE CLEARED, HOW MUCH HE COULD CLEAR HOW MUCH SETBACK THERE HAD TO BE THE ENTIRE THING, AND WOULD'VE NEVER RUN INTO THE PROBLEM THAT HE HAD AND HAD TO COME IN FRONT OF US TO EITHER GET A VARIANCE OR HELP HIM FIGURE OUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS IN VIOLATION.
AND PEOPLE, HONESTLY, PEOPLE DON'T DO IT.
AND IT'S SAD YOU SPEND ALL THAT MONEY AND YOU DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT CAN, IF I WAS TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TOMORROW, THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS COME UP HERE TO THE PLANNING OFFICE AND SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN OR CAN'T DO ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I MIGHT WANT TO DO? AND NOW I KNOW I CAN'T.
AND THEY WOULD TELL ME WHAT THE ZONING, WHAT THE THINGS WERE ALLOWED IN THE ZONING.
THEY'D TELL ME IF THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ATTACHED TO IT AND THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE THROWN MORE RESTRICTION THAN IT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BUT PEOPLE WILL NOT GO AND DO THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON KNOWS TO DO THAT, I GUESS.
AND IT, AND IT'S SAD THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF REPRESENTATION THAT TELLS 'EM TO DO THAT.
I, I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE IN A NEIGHBORING COUNTY, BUT, UM, I HAD A, WHEN I WAS AT VDOT, I HAD A LANDOWNER COME TO ME COMPLAINING ABOUT, UH, WHY THE BULLDOZERS WERE LIKE 30 OR 40 FEET UP CLOSER TO THEIR HOUSE AND DUG INTO IT.
FOUND OUT THAT THE YEAR BEFORE VDOT HAD BOUGHT THE LAND FROM, FROM THE PREVIOUS LANDOWNER AND THE PREVIOUS LANDOWNER NEVER TOLD ANYTHING ABOUT, ABOUT THE UPCOMING PROJECT.
AND SO HERE'S A FAMILY THAT WAS JUST ALL UPSET ABOUT THAT AND I HAD NO WAY TO HELP THEM.
IT'S JUST THEY DIDN'T ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
UM, ON ANOTHER NOTE, SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME UP IN THE CLASS THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY INTERESTING, AND THEY GAVE US SOME GOOD EXAMPLES, AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE PLACE FOR THIS CONVERSATION, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WOULD FALL ON, BUT, UM, TALKING ABOUT, UH, LIKE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN
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TRACKING SYSTEM.YOU KNOW, WE DO ALL THIS WORK AHEAD OF TIME AND, AND MAKE ALL THESE DECISIONS, HAVE ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE WRITE IT DOWN.
UM, BUT THEN YOU DON'T, AT LEAST I KNOW I HEAR IT BECAUSE OF THIS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES THAT I'M ON, BUT ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THEY SHOWED WAS SHENANDOAH COUNTY.
UM, THEY HAVE LIKE A PROGRESS TRACKER ONLINE THAT ANYBODY CAN GO AND LOOK AND SEE WELL THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING THESE THINGS THAT THEY'VE HAD ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT.
I JUST, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE THAT TRANSPARENCY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO GO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ANYBODY ALL DAY WILL SAY, WELL, THEY'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY OR THEY'RE NOT DOING THIS, OR THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE DOING THAT.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKE A PLANNING JOB OR IF THAT'S A GENERAL COUNTY THING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO DOING.
I JUST LIKE TO STATE STAFF AND LEGAL AND EVERYTHING FOR THE WORKSHOP TODAY, BRINGING THIS UP TO MM-HMM
CODE WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND, AND EVERYTHING.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND FOR GETTING UP YOUR TIME TODAY.
ALSO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAY UP TODAY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT I'M GETTING READY TO DO RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO, I DO WANT TO BRING IT UP.
UM, THE GENTLEMAN JUST THAT JUST WALKED IN HAPPENS TO BE MY UNCLE.
UM, HE'S NINE ONE YEARS OLD NOW, BUT HE CALLED ME EARLIER THIS WEEK AND, UM, HE WANTED ME TO COME AND LOOK AT SOME PAPERS THAT HE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER DENNY WOODY, HE OWNS PROPERTY AT, UM, WEST PETERBURG AND HE RECEIVED THIS LETTER OF THE MEETING TONIGHT.
AND I, I THINK IT'S, UM, THAT'S THE COURTESY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER STAFF THAT THEY NOTIFY ALL LANDOWNERS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING IN THE CASE.
AND I LOOKED AT IT, I READ IT AND I I I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH HIS PROPERTY.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT HE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
HE WAS JUST BEING MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION AND HE, UH, SEEMED TO HAVE UNDERSTOOD.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT AT THIS MOMENT, IF, IF HE WANTS TO COME FORWARD, IF HE HAS QUESTIONS OR IF IT'S TOO LATE FOR SOMEONE TO MAYBE EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT THE CASE IS, IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR HIM.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF I'M OUTTA PLACE OR NOT.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME.
MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST TALK TO STAFF, UM, AFTERWARDS TO UH, JUST EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT, HOW IT, WHAT DID HAPPEN TO THE AJA? I, I ASSUME IT'S AN ADJACENT PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT'S, UM, NOT EVEN NEAR HIS PROPERTY.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SITE.
BUT I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE STAFF HANDLES THAT.
I GUESS THEY DO SEND OUT WARNINGS TO, UM, INFORMATION TO THOSE THAT ARE YES.
TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE DO SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON REZONINGS AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
UM, HE'S, HE'S LOOKING AT ME
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN, IN A STATEMENT THAT COULD BE MADE TO HIM OR, OR JUST LET HIM KNOW THAT HE HE NEEDS TO TALK TO YOU ALL.
YEAH, I'D BE GLAD WE'D BE GLAD TO TALK WITH HIM AFTER, AFTER THE MEETING.
AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT THE LETTER HE RECEIVED.
THEY WANT TO TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO, WELL, I'M STILL OUTTA PLACE.
I WAS, I WANNA GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENT.
I JUST WANT, UM, LET EVERYBODY I KNOW THAT I'M, I'M SORRY I MISSED A MEETING LAST MONTH.
I HAD KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY AND UH, I COULDN'T MAKE IT.
UH, BUT I WAS THINK GOOD REASON.
I WAS THINKING
I HAD ONE STIGMA AND THAT'S STILL STICKING WITH ME.
THIS WAS JUNE THE FIRST, UM, WHEN THE SURGERY
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TOOK PLACE AND I HAVEN'T SHAVED SINCE.SO HOPEFULLY I'LL GET, GET AROUND TO IT ONE DAY.
SO IT MUST BE THAT'S RIGHT AFTER A MONTH, IT MUST BE DOING A LITTLE MUCH BETTER.
UM, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, UM,
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PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS, SIR, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE? UM, I ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENT.WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS CASES SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE WANT TO HAVE A MEETING OR, UM, HAVE A MEETING AND TALK MORE ABOUT THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS OR POTENTIAL COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS.
WELL, I'LL SAY JUST BASED ON GOING THROUGH A FEW COMP PLANS OVER THE YEARS, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, THAT'S ONE REASON I ASKED THE SCHEDULE EARLIER, BUT I WOULD SAY, IS IT OKAY IF WE JUST KIND OF USE, LET LET STAFF USE THEIR JUDGMENT ON THAT.
IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING GREAT, WE UNDERSTAND.
IT WOULD, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DATE ON THAT ONE SINCE THIS IS THE EIGHTH? IS IT GONNA BE AN EARLY ONE OR A LATER ONE? LIKE THE 12TH OR? IT'S THE 12TH.
SO IT IS, I GUESS A LATER ONE THAN WE NORMALLY HAVE.
I JUST KNEW I WAS GONNA BE GONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH PROBABLY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF I, I'LL BE BACK BY THEN.
IF STAFF SEES WE DON'T NEED ONE, THEN WE'LL TAKE THE MONTH OFF.
I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH THE, UM, CHAIRMAN ON THAT AND OKAY, WELL Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW MY BIAS.
I WANT TO GET THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, LEAVE IT TO Y'ALL'S DISCRETION AND UH, ANYTHING ELSE THEN THAT'S IT.
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED TO OUR.