[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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ALL RIGHT, LET'S CALL OUR, UH, SEPTEMBER REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE.
UM, AND LET'S ALL STAND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR.UH, ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, AMENDMENTS, ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OF MINUTES HERE.OUR JULY MEETING, Y'ALL REMEMBER WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING LAST MONTH, BUT WE HAD OUR REGULAR MEETING IN JULY.
ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, CORRECTIONS OR IF NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
MR. SIMMONS SUSTAIN MR. TAYLOR? YES.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
WE HAVE A FEW PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT IN WHICH EACH PUBLIC HEARING THERE WILL BE A, A, UH, A CITIZEN SPEAKING PERIOD, BUT FOR ANY CITIZENS THAT WANNA SPEAK ON SOME OTHER TOPIC UNRELATED TO THE, UH, CASES THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT, THIS IS A TIME, MR. CHAIR, UH, DID YOU SKIP CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, I'M GOING, I'M, I'M GOING, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT.IT'S MY ROUNDABOUT WAY OF EXPLAINING THAT
AND I THINK MR. GURLEY, YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UH, RUNNING DOWN THE LIST FOR OF ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE CASE TONIGHT.
DOESN'T
SO YOU AND OTHERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST GIVING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR RECORD.
MY NAME IS CHANTELLE LAND AND I RESIDE AT 1 0 9 5 2 COLEMAN LAKE ROAD IN FORD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE MY CONCERNS ON THE LACKLUSTER APPLICATION REVISION FOR THE HAVEN OAK TECHNOLOGY CENTER.
WITH A CONCENTRATION ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WHEN A DEVELOPMENT OR REZONING PROJECT COMES BEFORE THE COUNTY, DECISION MAKERS MUST ENSURE THAT THAT PRODUCT PROJECT MEETS THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS OF THE ORDINANCES AND OF THE OVERREACHING VISION AND FUTURE LAND USE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PUBLICATION IS A COORDINATED, ADJUSTED, AND HARMONIOUS PLAN TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, ORDER CONVENIENCE, PROSPERITY, AND GENERAL WELFARE OF ITS INHABITANTS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT OUR RURAL CHARACTER IS CONSIDERED OUR MOST VALUABLE ASSET.
THE FOLLOWING OR DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNDER THE AGRICULTURAL AND HISTORICAL CHARACTER CHAPTER, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BOASTS A CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING PRODUCTIVE LAND, OPEN SPACES, AND CONSERVATION AREAS.
THE PLAN READS, THIS IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
THE PLAN OUTLINES A FOCUS ON TOURISM AND AGRITOURISM COUPLED WITH EXPANDING BUSINESSES, FREQUENT FREQUENTED BY TOURISTS SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, AND MOTELS.
A DATA CENTER IS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN CHAPTER THREE, THE PLAN STATES IN WITTY COUNTY MAINTAINS HARMONY WITH NATURE BY PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THE HEALTH AND VIABILITY OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROMOTING ENHANCED CONNECTION TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THE PLANT STATES, THE PLANT STATES D WITTY COUNTY IS RICH IN NATURAL FEATURES THAT HAVE SHAPED THE DEVELOPMENT AND CHARACTER OF THE COUNTY.
WITH LOW ROLLING HILLS, ABUNDANT LUSH FORESTS, ASCE IN SCENIC RIVERS AND LAKES, NATURE LANDSCAPES CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTY'S RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER.
THESE FEATURES ALSO PROVIDE VALUABLE ECOSYSTEMS AND RECREATIONAL BENEFITS AND INFLUENCES THE SUSTAINABILITY AND CAPACITY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
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OF NATURAL RESOURCES IS DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE CHAPTER, ALONG WITH STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND PROTECT AND EXPAND ACCESS TO THESE INVALUABLE RESOURCES.REGARDING FLOODPLAINS, THEY ARE BEST LEFT IN A NATURAL, NATURAL STATE.
THESE ARE YOUR WORDS AND OUR WORDS FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
THE DATA CENTER PROPOSAL, WHICH HIGHLY, UH, INFLUENCES WETLANDS, DOES NOT TAKE THESE VERY IMPORTANT VALUES INTO CONSIDERATION.
IN ADDITION TO SERVING SURFACE SURFACE WATER HYDROLOGICAL FUNCTIONS, THEY ARE A PRIME HABITAT FOR ANIMALS AND PLANT LIFE.
IF LEFT UNDISTURBED, FLOODPLAINS CAN PROVIDE A USEFUL FUNCTION OF FILTERING ERODING SOILS AND OTHER DEBRIS RESULTING FROM LAND DISTRIBUTING DISTRIBU ACTIVITIES.
PRESERVING FLOODPLAINS IN A NATURAL STATE CAN ALSO PROVIDES, UH, CAN ALSO SERVE AS A QUIET RESERVOIR FOR PASSIVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
FLOODPLAINS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECOLOGICAL BALANCE AND MUST BE PROTECTED.
AGAIN, PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES AIR QUALITY.
IT IS IMPORTANT, IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
ALTHOUGH DENWITTY COUNTY IS AN ATTAIN ATTAINMENT JURISDICTION, THERE IS A NEED TO REMAIN VIGILANT OF, TO REMAIN VIGILANT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA'S DIRECTION CONCERNING AIR QUALITY MAINTAINING VEGETATION CORRIDOR.
YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMEONE'S PHONE.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT 1 3 5 1 5 WHITE OAK ROAD HERE IN THE COUNTY.
I'D LIKE TO RESUME WHERE MS. LANDS LEFT OFF.
AIR QUALITY IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
ALTHOUGH DI COUNTY IS AN ATTAINMENT JURISDICTION, THERE IS A NEED TO REMAIN VIGILANT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA'S DIRECTIONS CONCERNING AIR QUALITY.
MAINTAINING VEGETATION ALONG HIGHWAY QUARTERS IS A GOOD WAY TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF AUTOMOBILE EMISSIONS.
IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS MEASURES TO REDUCE FOSSIL FUEL CONSUMPTION AND EMISSIONS, SUCH AS PROMOTING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, SUPPORTING E VEHICLE CHARGING STATION PLACEMENT, AND ACTING A GOVERNMENT VEHICLE IDLING POLICY, PLANTING TREES AND PROMOTING RECYCLING AND, AND COMPOSTING WILL ALSO HELP TO MAINTAIN AIR QUALITY.
AS FAR AS LAND CONSERVATION, THERE IS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED EMERGING TECHNOLOGY APPLICATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSES CONNECTING PROTECTIVE PLANS SHOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS FACILITATING AND ENCOURAGING FURTHER PROTECTION OF NATURAL LANDSCAPES BY PRIVATE LANDOWNERS.
AND BY THE WAY, OF SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.
ACCORDING TO THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, TO PURSUE ONE'S SUSTAINABILITY IS TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH HUMANS AND NATURE CAN COEXIST IN PRODUCTIVE HARMONY TO SUPPORT PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
DIY COUNTY SEEKS TO AVOID THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT BY ENCOURAGING SUSTAINABLE BEST PRACTICES AND TAKING STEPS TO CONSERVE NATURAL RESOURCES.
SUSTAINABLE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES HELP MITIGATE UNINTENDED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND PROTECT AGAINST HABIT HABITAT DISRUPTION, RESOURCE STRAIN, ENERGY CONSUMPTION, AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
ALSO OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE IS THE NEED TO CONCENTRATE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND RESOURCES AWAY FROM SENSITIVE ECOLOGICAL AREAS SUCH AS THOSE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
IN THIS CHAPTER GOAL STATEMENT, DIMITY COUNTY MAINTAINS HARMONY WITH NATURE BY PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THE HEALTH AND VIABILITY OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROMOTING ENHANCED CONNECTION TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
DENDY COUNTY MAKES STRATEGIC AND EFFICIENT LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS AS PRESERVED ITS RURAL LANDSCAPE, WHILE WELCOMING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.
GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR LAND USE FRAMEWORK TO PROTECT THE COUNTY'S RURAL CHARACTER AND SENSITIVE, NATURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES, PROVIDING NATURAL, UH, I'M SORRY, A NETWORK OF CORRIDORS, GATEWAYS, AND RURAL VILLAGES TO CAREFULLY DIRECT FUTURE GROWTH AND HARNESS THE ECONOMIC POTENTIAL OF REGIONAL INDUSTRY RECREATION AND TOURISM.
STRATEGICALLY, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE HIGHER DENSITY GROWTH IN AREAS WITH EXISTING WATER, SEWER, AND TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE SHOULD FOCUS TRANSITIONAL SUBURBAN GROWTH AND PLANNED SERVICE EXTENSION AREAS TO ENSURE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT WHILE ENCOURAGING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN ENHANCES QUALITY
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OF LIFE OF THE COUNTY.CHRISTIE POWERS, WE HAVE TO SHARE POWER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL COMPANY THAT ONLY USE TOO MUCH INK.
I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S VERY INNOCUOUS AND DOESN'T SHOW THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE NEARBY.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA CENTER, WHICH IS ACTUALLY CORNERING TWO PIECES OF MY PROPERTY.
UM, A FEW CONCERNS I HAVE IS ONE, THE ZONING AMENDMENT, THE ZONING THAT WAS DONE IN 2024.
I REALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT CONCERNS WITH COMMENTS MADE THAT WE DID THIS IN A WAY THAT IT WOULDN'T HANDCUFF US.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HANDCUFFING US.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT HANDCUFFING DATA CENTERS.
THEY SHOULD STRICTLY ONLY BE ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE VARIANCES, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS LIKE WHERE WE LIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT I HANDED OUT, THE ONE THAT THEY PROVIDED IN THEIR RECENT RESUBMITTAL, IT DOESN'T SHOW YOU THOSE HOMES.
ALL THOSE RED CIRCLES ARE HOMES.
IF YOU THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A SEVEN, SEVEN AND A HALF STORY BUILDING AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HEAR THOSE SUBSTATIONS, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT TO MY HOUSE AND LOOK AND SEE IF YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT.
ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THEY TOOK OUT OF THEIR RECENT AMENDMENT THAT THEY WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD THEY BE PROHIBITED FROM USING WELL WATER.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DRY OUR WELLS OUT? WHO'S GOING TO PROVIDE US WATER? WHO'S GOING TO DIG DEEPER WELLS FOR US? THESE ARE ALL CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THIS IS HONESTLY THE WRONG PLACE FOR IT.
IF WE WANT TO BE PEOPLE OUT GOING TO BE LIKE LOUDOUN COUNTY, WE WANNA USE THEM AS AN EXAMPLE.
THEY STILL LIVE IN LOUDOUN COUNTY, STILL WORK FOR LOUDOUN COUNTY.
I UNDERSTAND AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND WE NEED TAX REVENUE THAT'S FULLY JUSTIFIABLE, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS US AS AN ENVIRONMENT TOO.
I CAN TELL YOU, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE HAD A WINERY AND DID WOODY TILL LAST YEAR.
IT'S NOT ENCOURAGED, IT'S NOT PROMOTED.
PROMOTE THINGS LIKE WEDDING VENUES THAT, THAT SHAPE OUR BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE AND PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE AND ENCOURAGE THE, IT'S NOT THE BIG REVENUE, THE THE FOOL'S GOLD THAT THE DATA CENTER IS PROMISED, BUT IT IS TAX REVENUE AND A LITTLE ADDS UP TO A LOT.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY PLAN ANYTHING AND I WAS FORTUNATE TO EXPECT A MEETING TONIGHT.
SO I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MICHELLE SCHEID.
I LIVE AT 2 7 0 8 0 BRIT LANE IN NORTH BEND, WITTY.
AND, UH, I WAS NOT PREPARED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, CAME FROM ANOTHER
UM, HE'S ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THESE DATA CENTERS JUST LIKE I AM.
UM, I HEARD A REALLY POIGNANT STATEMENT, UM, THE LAST COUPLE DAYS AND IT SAID, TECHNOLOGY WILL ALWAYS EVOLVE AND WILL ALWAYS GROW.
WE KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT WON'T IS THAT ONCE THIS DATA CENTER OR THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA IS ZONED INTO AN INDUSTRIAL OR EMPLOYEE, WHAT HAVE YOU, WORDING, YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK.
THE ABILITY, THE PEOPLE WHO DIED ON THOSE, I THINK IT WAS 2,700 WHO DIED IN THAT BATTLE ON WHITE OAK ROAD, ALL OF THOSE MEMORIES ARE GONE.
THAT WILDLIFE IS GONE, OUR ENVIRONMENT GONE.
UM, POTENTIALLY OUR WATER SUPPLY, UH, NOISE POLLUTION, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT.
BUT ONCE IT GOES THERE, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T REWIND IT BACK.
YOU CAN'T SAY, OH, WE CAN FIX IT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION AND PROJECT.
AND THEN THINGS ALSO WORRY ME THAT I EVEN JUST GLANCED AT SOME OF THE REVISIONS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT WATER.
UM, BEING, UM, NOW THEY'RE MENTIONING THAT THEY CAN TAP INTO OUR WELL WATER SOURCES.
UM, I'M PERSONALLY SCARED KNOWING THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW, 11 DATA CENTERS ARE FEEDING OFF OF LAKE CHEIN.
UM, I THINK ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM HAVE SEEN TIMES WHERE LAKE CHEIN HAS BEEN VERY, VERY LOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I I THINK THAT THESE INFLUX OF DATA CENTERS, THERE'S NOT
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ENOUGH SCIENCE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESEARCH.AND HOW ARE YOU EVEN GOING TO ENFORCE IF SOMEONE DOESN'T FOLLOW WHAT THEY SAY IN THESE APPLICATIONS OR THEY SAY THEY'RE ONLY GONNA USE X AMOUNT OF ENERGY.
UM, THEY'RE NOT BEING ENFORCED.
UM, THE SHIRT I'M WEARING, UM, IT SAYS NEXTERA AND THEY, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THEY'RE UM, PROPOSING THE LARGEST ENERGY MERGER WITH DOMINION POWER.
AND THEY ARE KNOWN FOR BEING DATA CENTER MONSTERS.
THEY GET YOUR FERMENTING, THEY COME IN, THEY DANGLE THEIR CARROTS, SO YOU TAKE THEIR MONEY.
UM, 'CAUSE EVERYONE LIKES MONEY, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
I DO TOO, BUT I ALSO LIKE TO BREATHE.
UM, BUT THEY COME IN AND THEY CHANGE THE NARRATIVE.
IF ANYONE'S NOT FAMILIAR, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR DATA CENTERS NEED A HUGE GAS, UH, GAS COMPANY TO COME IN.
THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE EMISSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR COUNTY FROM CUMBERLAND COUNTY TO SUPPORT DATA CENTERS.
THEY BRING IN MORE ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY DEMAND MORE WATER, AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO ENFORCE THEM AND TO TELL THEM NO.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS. I REALLY WISH I, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NEEDED.
I JUST WISH THAT WE KNEW MORE BEFORE WE GO INTO A FIGHT LIKE THIS.
AND FOR MY FRIENDS OUT HERE, THIS IS A TIME TO CONTACT YOUR LOCAL DELEGATES, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, YOUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ANYONE THAT WILL LISTEN TO YOU BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR US.
AND I THINK SIGHT OF THAT AT TIMES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK UNDER CITIZEN COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR FIRST CASE? I, I, WE, WILLIAMS, I LIVE AT 2 1 5 5 0 RUNAROUND LANE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ON THE EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT JUST IN THE WATER SITUATIONS.
MY WELL IS THREE GALLONS A MINUTE.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD THREE GALLONS A MINUTE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A COMPANY COME IN HERE THAT HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COMPUTERS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET WHAT HAPPENS.
REMEMBER WHEN THE SCHOOL UP THERE DID FOOTBALL, SOCCER FIELD, FOOTBALL FIELD AND THEY HAD, AND THEY TOLD US WE CAN'T WARN THE YARDS, BUT YET Y'ALL WATERED, Y'ALL, I SAID THEY WENT TO COUNTY THAT, UH, THE FOOTBALL FIELD, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THEY COME IN THERE AND DRILL A WELL? GET AN ORT G WELL, BECAUSE THERE IS COMPANIES THAT CAN DO THAT AND IT TAKES THE WATER BELOW MY WELL AND I DON'T HAVE WATER.
WHO'S WILL REFURNISH? MY, WELL, Y'ALL WOULDN'T LET ME MOVE IN MY HOUSE UNTIL I HAD WATER.
WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THE WATER AWAY? WHO'S GONNA REFURBISH IT? IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
'CAUSE I'M IN THE, I'M IN THE CROSS HAS, I'M PROUD THAT WITHIN A THOUSAND YARDS AT THIS PLACE.
[7. PUBLIC HEARING]
UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO, UH, OUR FIRST CASE, MR. BASSETT, UH, CASE C DASH 26 DASH FIVE.WOULD THAT BE AN OFFICIAL CLOSING OF THE CITIZEN COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR? UH, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK.
AS YOU INDICATED, THIS IS KC DASH 26 DASH FIVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FROM ARCOLA TOWERS.
THEIR AGENT IS HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING THEM MR. JONATHAN YATES.
THE APPLICATION IS TO REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A 197 FOOT STEEL MONOPOLE, UH, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER WITH A TWO FOOT LIGHTNING ROD ON THE TOP.
THE TOWER WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL BROADBAND CARRIERS.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 32.9 ACRES AND, UH, THE LEASE AREA FOR THE TOWER AND THE EQUIPMENT, UH, IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE SOUTHEASTERN, UH, PORTION OF THE SITE.
HERE'S THE, UH, ONE OF THE SITE PLANS THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION, UM, SHOWING THAT THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIRED SETBACKS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE FOR, FOR THEIR TOWER.
UM, ALL THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE, UM, EITHER AGRICULTURAL, UH, FORESTED LAND, UH, SURROUNDING, UH, PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDING ALL OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 22 DASH 71, UH, THE DEWIN
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COUNTY ZONING CODE, UH, ALLOWS FOR THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED USE COMMUNICATION TOWER WITH STATION WITHIN THE A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT.PROVIDED AGAIN THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED, UH, THE APPLICANT DID NOTE IN THEIR APPLICATION THAT UM, THEY DID EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CO CO-LOCATING ON THE EXISTING TOWERS IN THE AREA.
UH, BUT CO-LOCATING ON THESE TOWERS DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE COVERAGE GOALS NEEDED FOR THIS PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, ALSO TO NOTE THE APPLICANT'S PLAN DOES COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL REGULATIONS REPORT REGARDING PROVIDING FUTURE CO-LOCATION OF EQUIPMENT ON THE EXISTING TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER AND EQUIPMENT SITE.
UM, I DID NOTE, UH, PREVIOUSLY THAT THE TOWER DOES MEET ALL THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
UM, THEY'RE, UH, MORE THAN 400 FEET, UH, FROM, UH, THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
UH, BASICALLY THEY'RE, UH, THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS 2,460 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER LOCATION.
AND, UM, THEY'RE, UH, 251 FEET, UH, FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND 250 FEET, UH, TO THE SUB SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE TO THE TOWER.
UH, DISCUSSING THE PROJECT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, ALL THE REVIEW AGENCIES, UH, THERE WERE NO, UH, CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT, UH, WERE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PROPOSED TOWER ON THE HUNDRED BY HUNDRED, UH, LEASE TOWER DEVELOPMENT AREA, GIVEN THAT THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL BE MINIMAL GIVEN THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL HAVE NO DIRECT EFFECTS ON PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, PUBLIC SAFETY SCHOOLS, AND WATER QUALITY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OF ADEQUATE ACREAGE AND PROPOSED THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE TOWER WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT SURROUNDING LAND USES AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE TOWER CONFORMS WITH THE GOALS OF THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA AS SET FORTH IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
AND ALSO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEITY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE STACK IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, WITH SIX CONDITIONS.
UH, ALONG WITH THAT APPROVAL, UH, ONE BEING, UM, WE JUST DEFINE, UH, WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER HAS TO BE AND THE A HUNDRED BY A HUNDRED LEASE COMPOUND AREA AS STATED IN THE APPLICATIONS.
UH, TWO, UH, IF THE COUNTY OR ANOTHER ENTITY WANTED TO LOCATE, UH, TOWER SPACE ON THE PROPOSED TOWER, UM, WE NOTE THAT THE COUNTY, UH, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE COUNTY, UH, FOR PAID, UH, LEASE SPACE ON THE SUBJECT TOWER.
UM, AGAIN, THAT THE MONOCLONAL TOWER WOULD BE ENGINEERED TO ALLOW FOUR OR FIVE WIRELESS PROPERTY AND PROVIDERS.
UH, THE FOURTH CONDITION IF WE TIE THE, UM, TOWER TO MEET THE SETBACKS, UM, IN OUR CONDITIONS, UH, TO THEIR SITE PLAN THAT'S REFERENCED IN THEIR APPLICATION.
ALSO, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REVIEWED, UH, EVERY TWO YEARS, UH, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS.
AND THAT THE, UH, FINAL, UH, REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE AND COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER AND FACILITY.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE RELATED TO OUR STAFF REPORT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I'VE GOT ONE, YOU HEAR SO MUCH STUFF.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS APPLICANT HAS COME BEFORE US IN THIS AREA FOR A CUP FOR A TOWER? UH, IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY DID LOOK AT A, ANOTHER SITE NEAR THIS.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT MUST HAVE BEEN WHAT I HEARD.
YOU LOOKED AT ONE SITE, IT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH A PROCESS MANY YEARS BEFORE THIS FOR A TOWER IN THAT AREA, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE MOVING TO A NEW LOCATION AND THEY'LL STILL OWN CUP IN ANOTHER LOCATION.
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PROBABLY THE GUY 2,400 FEET AWAY, I'M GUESSINGSO I'M, I'M THE GUY THAT'S 2,400 FEET AWAY, SO IT'S MY NECK OF THE WOODS.
BUT, UH, I, I WANTED TO GET TO THAT, I WANTED TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK, BUT I, I CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD BE LET THE COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT MY INVOLVEMENT OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
BUT I WANTED TO WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FIRST AND THAT'S FINE.
I GUESS APPLICANT WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO, TO SPEAK? THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, JONATHAN GATES, 1 0 5, BRO STREET, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND, UH, CHAIR FOR DETAIL LATER, BUT WE CAN ADD ADD TO IT AT THE TIME.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS FOR A WHILE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA.
AND WHAT I HAVE TO DO, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THANK MARK.
THANK ALVIN FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.
UM, THE FACILITY IN QUESTION IS 197 FOOT MONOPOLE.
WHAT IS A MONOPOLE? MONOPOLE IS A PILE LOT.
IT'S WHAT YOU LOOK GOOD BIT TALLER, BUT WHAT YOU'D HAVE IN FRONT OF A HARDEE'S OR A WALMART WITH THEIR SIGN, EXCEPT WE GO 197 FEET IN THE AIR.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR VERIZON WIRELESS AND BEING OUT THERE IN THIS AFTERNOON, YES, THEY HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA TRYING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WHERE WE ENDED UP, UH, 32 ACRE PROPERTY AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.
VERIZON APPROVED IT FROM A RADIO FREQUENCY STANDPOINT.
IT WORKED VERY WELL FOR THEM, BUT IT ALLOWED US TO NOT ONLY MEET BUT EXCEED ALL THE SETBACKS.
WE WERE TO EASILY MEET ALL THE SETBACKS.
AND AS, UM, MARK JUST POINTED OUT, WE'RE ALMOST A HALF A MILE FROM THE CLOSEST HOUSE.
WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT OFTEN.
WE ARE IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD HERE.
WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A REALLY TERRIFIC LOCATION AND WE THANK STAFF, WE THANK MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE HELP WITH ALL THE HELP GOING FORWARD.
IT TAKES A LOT FOR ME TO GET HERE TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE FAA.
THE FAA MADE TWO IMPORTANT IMPORTANT FINDINGS IN THIS CASE.
FIRST, NO HAZARD TO AIR NAVIGATION AND A VERY IMPORTANT FINDING TO FOLKS THAT MOVE AROUND THERE WILL NOT REQUIRE AIR NAVIGATION ILLUMINATION.
WHY IS THAT? THE CLOSEST AIR, UH, AIR FACILITY IS 8.9 NAUTICALS MILES AWAY.
THAT'S THE ALLEN PERKINSON BLACKSTONE ARMY AIRFIELD.
SO WE'VE GOTTA THROUGH THE FA THEN ON MAY 18TH OF THIS YEAR, VIRGINIA SHIPPO STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ALSO APPROVED THIS TOWER.
THAT'S A BIT OF HOMEWORK WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE I CAN START BOTHERING MARK.
UH, IF WE GET TO DO THE FACILITY, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT, MY BOSS IS HERE WITH ME, RYAN FO'S HERE TO WATCH ME IF I GET OUT THE LINE.
BUT, UH, MY PART OF THIS ENDS WITH, WITH THE PERMITTING AND I HOPE IT GETS APPROVED.
IT TAKES, IT TAKES RYAN ABOUT 45, 60 DAYS TO GET THE TOWER UP.
A LOT OF THAT'S JUST PUTTING THE FOUNDATION IN.
AND THE FOUNDATION SET TOWER ITSELF IS STACKED IN A DAY AFTER THAT.
ON AVERAGE, VERIZON, THESE THINGS ARE OPERATED CONTROLLED REMOTELY FOR NATIONAL OPERATION CENTERS.
A TECH WILL COME OUT MAYBE EIGHT TO 10 TIMES A YEAR.
THAT'S ABOUT IT IN A LIGHT TRUCK OR AN SUV.
SO WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON WHITMORE THAT'S IN CHURCH OR, OR OLD LIGHT OAK.
THE FACILITY, PARTICULARLY WITH THAT FINDING FROM THE FAA DOES NOT PRODUCE ANY OIL, UH, ANY NOISE, ODOR, LIGHTS, VIBRATION ES OR GLARE.
WHAT DOES IT DO? IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO USE THEIR PHONES, WHETHER THEY USE IT FOR VOICE SEARCHING THE INTERNET.
I ALWAYS JOKE THAT ONE OF THE STUPIDEST THINGS I EVER DID, AND I'VE DONE LOT THINGS GIVE MY SON AN IPHONE.
I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE IF HE TOOK A REAL GLUE AND GLUED IT TO HIS PALM, BUT I CAN NOT GET OUT OF HIS HAND.
BUT TO ME, MOST IMPORTANTLY, PARTICULARLY OUT IN THE COUNTRY, IT'S A WAY I CAN GET AHOLD OF THIS GENTLEMAN AND THAT GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK.
IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AND IT'S NECESSARY TO REACH 9 1 1 FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER BE FIRE POLICE OR EMS BEFORE WIRELESS COMES LOG, SOMEONE'S RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD, THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.
THEY HAVE TO GO TRY TO FIND A PHONE.
SAM DIDN'T WANT ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING TO HIS HOUSE TO FIND A PHONE.
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BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALSO COUNTY HAS THE CODE RED SYSTEM.LET YOU KNOW WHEN WEATHER'S COMING OR WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PROBLEMS COMING.
IT WORKS BEST WHEN YOU HAVE A PHONE THAT WILL RECEIVE IT.
SO WHAT DO WE PLAN TO DO HERE AMONG POLE STAFF FACILITY FOR VERIZON WIRELESS, BUT ALSO DESIGN IF THEY WANT TO COME ON IT FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL BROADBAND CARRIERS AND ALSO THE COUNTY OR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE IT ALSO.
UM, AGAIN, WE CAN GET IT UP IN 60 DAYS.
HORIZON WILL INTEGRATE THEIR EQUIPMENT AFTER IT'S UP.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY, 32 ACRES MEETS ALL THE SETBACKS BY GOOD MARGIN.
WE FOUND THE PERFECT WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I CAN GO THROUGHOUT LOUDOUN COUNTY, FAIRFAX COUNTY AND USE MY PHONE EVERYWHERE.
DENVER WHITING COUNTY DESERVES THE SAME WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M HERE FOR ENDING ALL QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE.
IT TAKES ME SIX MINUTES JUST TO SAY MY NAME, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT WHEN I'M HERE.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY NORMAL QUESTIONS.
THE BOARD MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY.
UM, I GUESS WE'LL OPEN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK.
IS THERE, UH, ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIR.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE THAT HAD THE, THE PHOTO, UH, THE A OF HIERARCHY.
I WANT TO JUST KIND OF GIVE SOME BACKGROUND HERE.
I THINK THAT ALL OF YOU, WHAT COMMISSIONERS WOULD BENEFIT FROM, IF YOU COULD JUST GO BACK TO THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD RIGHT THERE.
SO I WAS DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD.
THERE'S NO WAY I COULD BE 20, ONLY 2,400 FEET FROM HERE.
SO I THINK I'M NOT THE CLOSEST PERSON, BUT, BUT STILL, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND UH, WHEN, WHEN I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THIS WAS, UH, WAS BEING CONTEMPLATED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MY FIRST REACTION WAS, OH NO, I DON'T WANT THIS THING EITHER, YOU KNOW? BUT, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE AREA THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, THAT BETTER CELL COVERAGE.
UM, AND SO, UH, I TALKED TO, UH, THESE GUYS AT THE TIME AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE BIG THING IS IT'S ONLY 199 FEET OR LESS.
AND SO I DO LOVE LIVING IN THE WOODS AND IT WASN'T GONNA AFFECT ME BECAUSE, UM, EVEN AT 2,400 FEET, I WOULDN'T SEE IT.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A DOUBLE THAT IF I HAD TO GUESS, BUT I'M ONLY TWO PROPERTIES AWAY.
BUT THE BIG ISSUE WAS THAT, UM, IN, IN MENTIONING THIS TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, THE CHURCH THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL PROPERTY, UM, THAT'S, UH, 66 DASH 31 A TWO.
THE FOLKS AT THE CHURCH HAD A REALLY CONCERN WITH THE LOCATION BEING IN THEIR VIEW SHED, UH, FOR CHURCH AND THE CEMETERY, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET AT 66 DASH 33 A A TWO.
AND SO, UH, I MET WITH THE, THE CONGREGATION OF THE CHURCH.
I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH, BUT I MET WITH THE CONGREGATION OF THAT CHURCH AND THEY ASKED IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE LANDOWNER, MY NEIGHBOR, TO TRY TO FIND A, A BETTER PLACE ON HIS PROPERTY.
AND LONG STORY SHORT, HE REFUSED TO GO WITH ANY OTHER LOCATION.
SO THAT LED THE COMPANY TO, UH, TO TALK TO OTHER FOLKS THAT CAME UP WITH THE SITE YOU HAVE HERE.
UM, I WENT TO THE BALLOON TEST A COUPLE OF MONTHS, OR YEAH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE EVER EVER BEEN TO ONE OF THOSE, IT'S AN EXCITING THING TO DO.
MAYBE JUST TO SAY YOU'VE DONE IT ONE TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BALLOON WENT UP TO 199 FEET.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT, UH, IN A WOODED AREA.
SO, UM, UH, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK, I DON'T WANNA BE A PROXY FOR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT DID NOT SHOW UP TONIGHT.
BUT THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAD, I HAD IT LAST TIME WITH THE PREVIOUS SITE AND I HAD IT WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
THE PERSON WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RADIO FREQUENCIES.
AND I, I, I BRING THIS UP 'CAUSE I LEARNED A LESSON IN THIS TOO, THAT BOTH THE APPLICANT AND MR. BASSETT EXPLAINED TO ME, AND I'M PROBABLY GETTING THIS A LITTLE BIT WRONG, BUT THERE WERE FEDERAL STATUTES, I BELIEVE PASSED IN 19 6, 19 96, THAT SAY THAT LAND USE DECISIONS CANNOT BE PREDICATED UPON, UM, SUCH COMMUNICATIONS.
AND SO, UM, ALL THAT TO SAY IS THAT, UH, THAT WAS THE SAME BEFORE IT IS NOW.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN USE AS A BASIS FOR A DECISION.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU ALL THAT BACKGROUND AND I FEEL LIKE I'M KIND OF HAPPY TO WORK WITH AN APPLICANT WHO DIDN'T TRY TO RAM SOMETHING DOWN RIGHT
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OFF THE BAT, BUT RATHER WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST YOU
I'VE DONE THAT MYSELF IN MY, IN MY WORK.
UM, I KNOW THAT COSTS MONEY AND TIME PROBABLY COST YOU ANOTHER YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND SO I JUST, I WANTED TO GIVE THEM CREDIT THAT THEY HAD LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TOO, RIGHT? IT'S TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH A SITE THAT, UH, IS FURTHER AWAY THAN ANYBODY, UH, WAS BEFORE THE CHURCH IS HAPPY.
AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY'S HAPPY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ALONG 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WAS WORKING ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
I GUESS MY COMMENT BACK WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION THAT I DID IS I JUST DIDN'T WANT, I DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THAT AREA JUST HANGING OUT WITH THE CUP THAT GOES WITH THAT PROPERTY FOREVER.
I WOULD ASK HAD THEY DONE THAT, IF THEY WOULD RESCIND THAT CUP FOR THIS CUP BECAUSE I KNOW DOMINION AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THEY'LL PUT A RIGHT OF WAY IN MM-HMM
AND THEN WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING EXTRA.
AND WHEN YOU ASK FOR 'EM TO RESCIND IT, THEY DON'T WANT TO RESCIND THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUS TO THAT AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO NOT HOLD THE CP.
THAT'S, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, WELL IT'S NOT JUST THAT AREA.
THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN THIS COUNTY.
THERE ARE DESPERATE NEED OF CELL SERVICE.
OF COURSE, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, IT RELIES HEAVILY BOTH SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS EMS AND FIRE ON THE CELL TOWERS FOR ALL OF THEIR MONITORS AND EVERYTHING IN THE ACTUAL AMBULANCE OR PATROL CAR.
SO A DEAD AREA IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, IF YOU CAN'T, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM.
SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS THAT I JUST DIDN'T WANT AN EXTRA CUP HANGING OUT IN THE COUNTY SOMEWHERE THAT WASN'T NECESSARY.
YOU READY? SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT KIND OF GIVES A FULL HISTORY OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE RESOLVED THAT IN THE ORDER TO ASSUME COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 6 A SEVEN.
AND IT IS STATED THAT IN PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE RESOLUTION IS INITIATED TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE, I MOVED THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST C DASH 26 DASH FIVE AS PRESENTED, BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.
NICK, MR. CHAIRMAN? I, YES, SIR.
LEGAL AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING SHE DID NOT HEAR A CLOSING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
I KNOW YOU ASKED ANYBODY AND NOBODY WAS SIGNED UP.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SIR? MR. TAYLOR? YES.
SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING AYE C DASH 26 6 5 HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH CONDITIONS.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH YOU FOR YOUR, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
ALRIGHT, UM, OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, C DASH 26 DASH SIX.
UH, I'LL GET STARTED ON THE CASE.
UH, THIS IS AGAIN C DASH 26 DASH SIX.
THE APPLICANT IS THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION FAA AND THEY HAVE AN AGENT WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS PROJECT.
PTSI MANAGED SERVICE INCORPORATED.
UH, JASON RIVERA IN PARTICULAR, UH, WORKING WITH THE FAA ON THEIR PROPOSED TOWER.
UH, THIS TOWER IS TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION IN AN OPERATION OF A DISTANCE, DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT FACILITY WITH A 60 FOOT LATTICE TOWER, UH, WITH AN ANTENNA ON TOP OF THAT.
AND THEN AT THE BASE, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR SHELTER, UH, FOR THEIR BASE EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S A 10 BY 12 FIBERGLASS SHELTER.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON AIRPORT PROPERTY AND, UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY IT'S ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF AIRPORT ROAD NEAR, UM,
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THERE'S A, UH, EQUIPMENT SHELTER, UH, THAT'S ALREADY ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.AND THIS, THIS WOULD BE JUST PAST THAT EQUIPMENT SHELTER, UH, IS WHERE THEY WOULD PROPOSE TO BUILD THE SUBJECT TOWER.
UH, IT'S HARD TO SEE THE SITE PLAN FROM THE DISTANCE, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU ALL CAN SEE IT ON YOUR MONITORS.
UH, AGAIN, THE 60 FOOT LATTICE TOWER, UH, WITH THE ANTENNA MOUNTED ON THAT, UM, IN THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION, UM, THEY DID HAVE A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, UH, TO IMPROVE AIR TRAFFIC FLOW AND ENHANCE SAFETY.
THE FAA PROPOSES THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT FACILITY, A DME FACILITY.
THE DME EQUIPMENT PROVIDES CRITICAL DATA INCLUDING DISTANCE AND NAVIGATION INFORMATION TO THE AIRCRAFT.
UTILIZING THE AIRPORT DME EQUIPMENT IS STRATEGIC TO THE OVERALL AERONAUTICAL OPERATIONS AS IT IMPROVES NAVIGATION SAFETY AND SUPPORTS.
AIR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS MODELING IS PERFORMED TO LOCATE THE TOWER WITHIN FIVE NAUTICAL MILES OF AN AIRPORT AND PROVIDES SUFFICIENT COVERAGE ALONG WITH OTHER DMES.
THE PROPERTY UNDER REVIEW DESIGNATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS PART OF THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AREA OF THE NORTHERN DI DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AS SUCH, THE AREA IS EXPECTED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE PUBLIC SERVICE FACILITIES FACILITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS GENERAL AREA AS APPROPRIATE, THE SUBJECT TOWER IS LOCATING ON THE AIRPORT DIY AIRPORT PROPERTY, UH, THAT'S OWNED M TWO INDUSTRIAL LIMITED.
IN THIS SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THERE IS ONE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED R ONE RESIDENTIAL LIMITED OTHER PROPERTY, UH, ONTO THE SOUTHEAST ALONG AIRPORT ROAD IS OWNED M1 INDUSTRIAL LIMITED.
THE R ONE ZONE PROPERTY IS A 10 ACRE PARCEL WITH ONE DWELLING, AND THIS DWELLING IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, 1,050 FEET THROUGH A WOODED LOT FROM THE LOCATION OF THE PRO PROPOSED 60 FOOT TOWER.
THE ADJOINING M1 ZONE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND WITH WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA, THERE ARE FIBER KNOWN SHELTERS ON ADDITIONAL M1 ZONE PROPERTY.
UH, THE, THE PROPOSED TOWER DOES MEET ALL OUR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
AND, UM, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, ISSUES OR CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED TOWER OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, RELATED TO THE PROPOSED TOWER, UH, STAFF IS, HAS REVIEWED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, GIVEN THAT THE, UH, THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL BE MINIMAL, GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSED TOWER WILL NOT HAVE DIRECT EFFECTS ON PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, PUBLIC SAFETY SCHOOLS, AND WATER QUALITY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABOUT ADEQUATE ACREAGE.
AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE 60 FOOT UNLIT LAST TOWER WITH 10 FOOT ANTENNA WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE TOWER CONFORMS WITH THE GOALS OF THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AREA, THE NORTHERN DENWOOD DEVELOPMENT AREA, AS SET FORTH IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
WE DID HAVE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO OUR LAST CASE, TYING THE TOWER, UH, TO WHAT'S PRESENTED IN THE APPLICATION.
THE 60 FOOT TOWER WITH THE 10 FOOT ANTENNA, UM, TYING THE SETBACKS TO WHAT'S SET FORTH IN THEIR SITE PLAN AND, UH, TWO YEAR COMPLIANCE, UH, CYCLE OR CONDITIONS WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, AND COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE AS PART OF OUR STAFF PRESENTATION.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THE APPLICANT, UH, IS HERE, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, DEAR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE FOR IMMEDIATE COUNTY, THANK YOU FOR IN MIND INVITING ME.
UH, JASON, MY AGENT, UH, YOU CAN MAKE IT TODAY.
I'M, UH, UH, EMPLOYEE OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, UH, PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, KC 26, UH, DASH SIX AS STATED, UH, BY
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THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.UM, THE INTENT IS, UH, FOR THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION TO CONSTRUCT, UH, DISTANT MEASURING, UM, FACILITY ON THE SIDE OF THE AIRPORT ROAD IS AN AIRPORT, UH, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ZONE M TWO.
SO THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, UH, CURRENT ZONING WITH NO CHANGE OF ZONING REQUESTED.
UH, THE FACILITY WILL OCCUPY 45 OR 4,750 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, LAND, UM, WHICH IS, UH, CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED BY ANY, UH, BUILDINGS OR, UM, FACILITIES.
UM, THE FACILITY WILL HAVE, UH, EIGHT FOOT SECURITY FENCE AND A DOUBLE LEAF GATE, UH, FOR THE ACCESS BY THE TECHNICIANS FROM UM, RICHMOND AIRPORT.
UH, THE FACILITY WILL BE UNMANNED, UH, ON STAFFED, UH, AND AUTONOMOUS.
UH, THE POWER USE IS LIMITED TO, UH, ONE KILOWATT PER HOUR.
UH, THERE'S NO NEED FOR COMMUNICATION.
IT'S IN DE FACTO, UH, REGULAR BEACON.
UM, UH, THIS TECHNOLOGY BEING INVENTED IN, UH, UM, EARLY, UH, MID FORTIES, UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY JUST TO ALLOW PLANES TO NAVIGATE AND ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GLOBE BEFORE THE SATELLITES WENT TO ORBIT.
AND IN A SENSE, THIS IS A REDUNDANCY SYSTEM IN CASE OF A GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT OPERATIONAL FOR THE REASON.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER NEW TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S OPERATIONAL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, ALL OVER THE GLOBE.
UH, AS I SAID, IT'S A RADIO BEACON, WHICH BASICALLY COMMUNICATES CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY THIS EQUIPMENT ON BOARD OF THE AIRPLANES.
SO IT HELPS THEM TO DETECT THEIR PRESENCE IN THE, IN, IN THE 3D SPACE, UH, DISTANCE, UH, TO THE LAND.
AND, UH, XY COORDINATES IN THE SPACE.
UH, THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS TO PLACE THIS FACILITY IS IN FIVE MULTIPLE MILES,
ALSO, UH, THIS EQUIPMENT WILL HELP, UM, UH, UH, WASHINGTON, UH, AIR TRAFFIC, UH, OPERATION CENTER AS WELL AS, UH,
SO, UH, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT PER OF THAT PREVIOUS CASE.
I JUST HEARD NOW I'M NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M A, I'M FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK, UM, ENGINEERING CENTER.
UM, IT'S GOT TO BE SOME DIFFERENT, UH, UH, CENTER REVIEWING THEIR CASE.
SO I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
UM, BY THE WAY, WE DO HAVE APPROVAL ALSO FOR OUR CASE, UH, BY, UM, WE ALSO SUBJECT TO ALL THE SAME RULES.
SO A APPROVED OUR, UH, FACILITY HEIGHTWISE, THERE'S NO, UH, POTENTIAL DISTURBANCE TO, UH, ANY NAVIGATION OR ANY AIR TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, UH, ALSO THERE IS NO ISSUES WITH THE FREQUENCY.
UH, THE FACILITY UPGRADES ON THE RADIO FREQUENCY FROM 900 TO 1200, UH, UH, FROM 900 KILOHERTZ TO NINE 1200 KILOHERTZ.
IT'S LIKE A RADIO FREQUENCY, LIKE A REGULAR, UH, YOU KNOW, POLICE STATION.
BUT IT'S AGREED ON A FREQUENCY FOR AIR TRAFFIC.
SO IT'S NOT, UH, NOT SUBJECT TO INTERFERENCE WITH ANY COUNT, UH, BASED GRIEVANCE DOESN'T.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE? NO.
AND IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? NO LOCAL FUNDING, NOTHING.
SO, SO, AND WE GOT THE PERMITS, WE GOT JUST RECENTLY, UH, LAST WEEK I GOT THE SHBO OF VIRGINIA.
SO LETTER OF NO, UH, ISSUES BY, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINAL CONCERN, I GUESS, UH, THAT MAY CAUSE ANY IMPACT AND VISIBILITY FROM NEARBY, UH, CIVIL WAR SITES.
BUT, UH, WE GOT THE LETTER LAST WEEK, WHICH BASICALLY SPACE THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, ARMY CORPS ENGINEERS AND VIRGINIA DEQ, UH, WE ARE DESIGNATED AGENCY FOR THAT EFFORT.
'CAUSE SITE HAS, UH, COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF UNREGULATED, UH, FACIAL EQUIPMENTS, WHICH WE ARE AFFECTING.
AND UH, THERE'S SOME VISITATION, WHICH
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UH, ON ROAD, WHICH MIGHT BE CLEAR.SO WE'RE WORKING ON PERMITING AND THE THANK YOU.
I HAVE A STAFF QUESTION, I GUESS.
UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY A LATTICE TOWER AT THE AIRPORT, IS IT NOT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IS THAT, WHAT DID THAT USED TO BE? IS THIS WHAT THAT USED TO BE OR IS IT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT? IT'S BRAND NEW.
THE, THE FACILITY, WHICH HAVE, WE HAVE ON, ON A, ON A AIRPORT NEARBY THE TERMINAL CITY.
I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, IT'S UH, LIKE A CELL PHONE TOWER.
SO IT'S NOT CELL PHONE TOWER, IT'S, IT DOES HAVE
YEAH, THEY, THEY ENDED UP PUTTING A INTERNET ACTUALLY CELL UNIT ON THERE FOR THAT AREA.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW BEING, IT WAS A LATTICE TOWER ALREADY THERE, WHAT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY USED FOR.
AND WAS THIS TAKEN TO PLACE OF THAT? I MEAN, BUT IF NOT, I, I'M GOOD WITH IT.
AND TO HAVE THIS TOWER BE FOLDABLE TOO.
SO IT HAS A BENCH, IT'S A MECHANICAL FOLDABLE.
THE TECHNICIAN, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE CAN LOWER IT DOWN.
COOPERATION OF THE ANTENNA ONCE A YEAR, TWICE A YEAR.
UH, SO AGAIN, UM, AND THE TOWER IS A TOWER.
IT'S NOT ONE POLE, IT'S LIGHT TOWER.
IT'S PROBABLY 500 POUNDS AT MOST.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S 60 FEET TALL.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, UH, THANK YOU SIR.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE TONIGHT.
THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. CHAIR, WE GOT, WE GOT ONE PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SO PLEASE COME ON UP AND UH, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
NAME'S JAMES DI SOME LAND DOWN THERE ON AIRPORT ROAD AND I'M NOT EXACTLY UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT I TOOK EXACTLY GOING TO BUILD THIS 600 SOME ACRES ON THE LAND.
WELL, CAN YOU PULL UP THE MAP AGAIN, UH, MR. GURLEY AND THEN, UH, IF YOU COULD USE THE POINTER TO SHOW EXACTLY WHERE, SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT THE, THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS 23 400.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ORGANIZED, BUT UH, I ONLY CAN PASS THAT AROUND JUST THE PRESENTATION PLEASE.
BASED ON THAT WIRE AND UH, THIS EXISTING FENCE COMMUNICATION.
WELL YOU GOT OTHER BUILDINGS DOWN HERE? YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING THERE.
BECAUSE THIS IS IDEAL FOR US BECAUSE WE NEED A POWER AND WE CANNOT BE INTERFERING WITH OVERHEAD WIRE.
SO THIS IS FOR US, IDEAL CASE IS LIKE IT'S CLOSE 50 FEET FOR US TO GET POWER AND WE FOCUS THE LINE WAVE.
WE USE THAT TO INSTALL THE POWER SHEET FROM THE
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THIS CASE? WELL IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE NO.
YOU READY FOR A MOTION? YES SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION BE RESOLVED.
AND IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2286 A SEVEN, IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH IS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED, IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C DASH 26 DASH SIX AS PRESENTED.
BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. HARLE SIP? YES, I'M SORRY.
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YES.SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING IC DASH 26 DASH SIX HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH CONDITIONS.
ALRIGHT, UH, OUR NEXT CASE IS UH, CASE P DASH 26 DASH SIX.
THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE IS JDR HOMES, LLC.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING, THE SEVEN PARCELS CURRENTLY ZONE B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AGAIN, THE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION ALLOWS FOR MINIMUM LOT SIZES OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 50 FEET.
THAT'S BASICALLY TWO WOULD BE TWO OF THE EXISTING LOTS.
UH, WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA, UH, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY WILL BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, UH, FROM THE DEITY COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.
AND AS WE'VE INDICATED IN OTHER CASES, UH, WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA, UH, THE WATER AUTHORITIES INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE PLENTY OF, UH, ADEQUATE, UH, AVAILABILITY IN LINES AS WELL AS UM, AVAILABILITY, UH, FOR UH, WATER AND SEWER TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE UH, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN AS YOU GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CURRENTLY ZONED ARE ONE RESIDENTIAL.
THERE ARE OTHER, ARE MANY OTHER CASES, UH, WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDED TO REZONED R RU AND THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE RU ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
UH, WHEN WE TOOK THE CASE TO THE UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UM, BDOT DID, UH, DID HAVE REVIEW COMMENTS INDICATING THAT ALL SINGLE FAMILY DRIVEWAYS ON SURREY AVENUE WILL BE SPACED A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF US ROUTE ONE AND ALL MULTI-FAMILY DRIVEWAYS WILL BE BE AT LEAST 125 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION.
OF COURSE THERE WON'T BE ANY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE 50 FOOT REQUIREMENT.
UH, NO LAND USE PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED FOR DRIVEWAYS CONNECTING TO US.
ROUTE LINE, UH, PLANNING STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CASE AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
UH, GIVEN THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING, UM, WAS CREATED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THIS GENERAL AREA.
AND IT DOES MEET THE UH, UH, INTENT OF THE UH, URBAN AREA INCLUDING THE WEST PETERSBURG NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THIS IS WITHIN, UH, THE TOWN CENTER AREA, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND THE RESIDENTIAL RU ZONING DISTRICT DOES CONFORM, UH, WITH THE UNDERLYING USE IS RECOMMENDED IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA.
I DID WANT TO NOTE, UH, THAT UH, OUR COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND THAT UH, THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO CONSIDER UM, DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAY, UM, IF ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WHEREVER NEEDED IN THE AREA OF MISSOURI AVENUE.
THIS IS, UH, ALMAR STREET, UH, IS WITHIN THE AREA AND UH, INDICATED THAT UH, POSSIBLY THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO DEDICATE A FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY FOR ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ROUTE ONE.
DID, WAS THE APPLICANT UH, AMENABLE TO THAT? UM, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, UM, THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION HAD NOT DISCUSSED THAT.
WITH THAT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
IS THAT THE LAND THAT'S CONNECTED TO THAT PARKING LOT? UM, LET'S SEE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE? YEAH, RIGHT WHERE THE GRASS IS REALLY, REALLY TALL.
UH, ACROSS THE STREET IS THE, THAT PARKING LOT THAT'S PART OF THE MCDONALD'S DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S LOOKING INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM ROUTE ONE AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THAT WOULD BE THAT PARKING
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LOT THAT'S PARKED THE MCDONALD'S DEVELOPMENT.YEAH, WELCOME MARK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE YELLOW SLIDE B TWO ONE A DASH ONE DASH TWO 30 A B TWO? YES.
WHAT IS THAT LITTLE PIECE GOING TO BE USED FOR? THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE PARKING LOT.
THAT'S PART OF THE MCDONALD'S DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH, MCDONALD'S OWNS THAT, THAT PARCEL I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE PIE SHAPED PARK ON THE, AT THE VERY TOP CO ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DO WITH THAT PARCEL, BUT THAT IS A, UH, EXISTING PARCEL THAT WOULD BE REDESIGNED.
SO AS I IN THE UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU SAID VDOT SAID ANY DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE 50 FOOT FROM BOYDEN PLANK, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE 21 A DASH ONE DASH 2 2 8 2 2 9 2 2 3 OH AND TWO TWO, I MEAN TWO THREE OH A ALL IS ONE LOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD BE 50 FOOT OFF IF THEY USE THE FIRST RIGHT LITTLE GROUP AS ONE LOT AND THEN ANOTHER TWO AND ANOTHER TWO.
SO IS THEIR PURPOSE JUST TO PUT TWO, TWO HOMES ON THIS? I, I DON'T KNOW, ONE ON THE FIRST THREE AND THEN THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION, BUT UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE APPLICANT TENDS TO, LET'S REPHRASE THAT.
THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE, YOU COULD DO WOULD BE TWO, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.
AND THEY KNOW THAT AS WELL AS JUST YOU AND US KNOWING THAT THE 50 FOOT YEAH, I'M SURE THEY DO, YES.
SO, SO I HAD A RELATED QUESTION.
I I GUESS I
I CAN, I CAN REMEMBER MYSELF AND UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH IS? I BELIEVE IT'S 80.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
SO WHAT WAS THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S, UH, THINKING ON THAT? UH, 'CAUSE I BELIEVE YOU COULD, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY ENOUGH ROOM TO WIDEN WITHOUT HAVING A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION.
SO WHAT WAS THE THINKING THERE? YEAH, HE DIDN'T INDICATE, YOU KNOW, GIVE A NUMBER FOR UM, HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I THINK HE WAS JUST ALLUDING TO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN OUR WORKSHOP WITH
UM, THAT POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE MAYBE THAT COULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR A ROUNDABOUT.
UM, WELL THE OTHER ASSUMPTION I MADE, AND MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE WORKSHOP, BUT I ALWAYS ASSUME YOU COULD WIDEN TO THE EAST ON COMMONWEALTH PROPERTY TOO.
BUT I DON'T WANNA MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION NECESSARILY, BUT YEAH, UM, I DIDN'T NOTE IT IN STAFF REPORT, BUT IN 2004 THE COUNTY DID ADOPT THE ROUTE ONE, ROUTE FOUR 60 CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT STUDY.
SOME OF YOU ALL MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT GROUP THAT HELPED WORK ON THAT.
AND IT DOES SHOW THAT REALLY A MAJORITY OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE FROM THE CENTRAL STATE PROPERTY, RIGHT.
UM, IF THERE WERE ANY WIDENING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE.
SO COULD I MAKE A SAFE ASSUMPTION HERE KNOWING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO SUCH A PROPER RIGHT.
NOT KNOWING THE ANSWER TO THAT AND ALSO KNOWING THAT THAT STUDY WAS DONE.
I'D FORGOTTEN THAT PIECE, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS, IT ALWAYS, FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT ALWAYS MADE SENSE TO ME TO WIDEN TO THAT SIDE.
I JUST THROW IT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN, UH, UH, CONSIDERATION WITH THE POTENTIAL REZONING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP.
MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S KIND OF EVEN STEVEN IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK AND SEE HIM.
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT'S HERE OR NOT.
MY, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, MY, MY THINKING WAS THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT FOR A PROPER, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE A, A SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES.
I THINK EVEN WITH THAT AMOUNT OF WIDTH, I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM, YOU KNOW, AND TO GO TO THE EAST SIDE, BUT I THE, THAT THE ENHANCEMENT PLAN, CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT PLAN DID SHOW DOES RECOMMEND, UM, SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF ROUTE ONE.
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WELL, AND, AND I WOULD SAY THAT I, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS DURING THE, UH, DURING THE WORKSHOP, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, THAT, AND BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A MACRO DISCUSSION, IT DIDN'T COME, IT DIDN'T COME TO ME THEN, BUT I WOULD SAY TAKEN INTO ACCOMMODATION THAT NECESSARY WIDTH OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COMES INTO ANY PROPOSED M THREE ZONING THERE.'CAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE CHEAPER.
IT WOULD MAKE YOUR SMART SCALE SCORE BETTER.
IT WOULD LIB BE LESS INTRUSIVE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A WHOLE HOST OF REASONS WHY I WOULD RECOMMEND CONSIDERING THAT I HAVE NO MORE FOR HIM.
ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, I WAS
BUT IS IS THE APPLICANT HERE IF, IF THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE
I, I CAN'T SEE WHERE I CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT US ASKING THE APPLICANT SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN THE PAST, IF THE APPLICANT WON'T HERE, WE TABLED IT AND HAD 'EM COME BACK BEFORE US.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION MR. CHAIR.
WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IS ONE ON, ON ONE PARTICULAR APPLICANT'S COME HERE A COUPLE TIMES AND, AND ACTUALLY NOT BEEN HERE AND I, I ADVISED MR. BASSA THAT IF HE EVER CAME BACK WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR HAVE HIM HERE.
SO IT'S REALLY YOUR CALL IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT OR IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO DISCUSS IT FIRST, YOU'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP PROBABLY HERE IN CASE SOMEBODY'S HERE.
I KEEP THINKING NOBODY'S HERE, BUT I MAY BE WRONG.
UH, TO MY COMMISSIONER, FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S POINT, I DEFINITELY WANNA GIVE PUBLIC INPUT.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, WELL CLOSING THE HEARING AND MY APOLOGIES AGAIN FOR THAT, BUT, UH, NO ONE SPEAKING UP.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING, ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT MR. CHAIR? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ON WHAT MR. LANGLEY WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE APPLICANT NOT BEING HERE, I, I WAS ONE THAT RAISED A LOT OF CANE ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, AND I, I'M AGREEANCE WITH WHAT HE SAID BECAUSE THIS ACTUAL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE FRONT, THERE'S A LOT OF RAMIFICATIONS TO THAT AND WE NEED TO KNOW THE APPLICANT'S ON BOARD WITH THAT BECAUSE IF WE REZONE ACROSS THE ROAD, M THREE AND LET'S JUST SAY ELI LILLY OR ASTRAZENECA OR WHOEVER COMES AND DECIDES THEY WANT TO BUILD THIS GREAT FACILITY WITH EMPLOYEES, THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC VOLUME GOING INTO, I FORGET THE NAME OF THAT LITTLE SIDE.
AND IT'S POSSIBLE EITHER, YOU KNOW, OH, WELL THERE IS SOME TURN ZONES, I MEAN, TURNING LANES THERE, BUT SOMETHING ELSE MAY HAVE TO BE DONE AND IT MAY AFFECT WHAT HE'S DOING AND BE NICE TO KNOW HE'S ON BOARD WITH ALL THAT.
SO I WOULD GO ALONG WITH MR. LANGLEY AND SAY EITHER TABLE IT OR DENY IT.
AND STAFF DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT A STATUS OF WHY, IF THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HERE OR THE APPLICANT DIDN'T CONTACT THE OFFICE OR ANYTHING? NO.
SO, I'M SORRY, STAFF DID MY RECOMMENDATION WELL, BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION, I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT DURING THE WORKSHOP.
HONESTLY, UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE OFF RAMP OF NORTHBOUND, UH, RIGHT ONE AND ALVA MALL IS ALREADY IN, IS INSUFFICIENT.
SO IF YOU HAD A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING INTO ALBEMARLE, UM, IT, IT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM, UH, RELATIVE TO THE DISTANCE TO THE INTERCHANGE.
IDEALLY YOU'D WANT TO SHIFT ALBEMARLE ALL THE WAY UP SOME, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR ANOTHER DAY.
MARK? I DO HAVE SOME FOR STAFF.
WE CAN DENY THIS OR DEFER IT TILL NEXT MONTH, BUT IF WE DENY WE HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE REZONE AND ALL THAT.
YOU'D JUST BE RECOMMENDING, UH, DENIAL TO THE BOARD.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO CHANGE ANY OF OUR PROCESSES AND THEN HE COULD JUST GO TO THE BOARD AND NORMALLY WHATNOT.
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO YOU TO WANT TO HEAR IT DIRECTLY YOURSELF AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDED, RECOMMENDED? I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM HERE.
IT IS PART OF OUR JOB TO FLESH THAT OUT.
SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT TOO.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS AND HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
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MR. GIRL? MR. SIMMONS? YES.SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING IP DASH 26.
TASK SIX HAS BEEN TABLED, SO I GOT A STAFF QUESTION FOR THAT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE WE SAYING TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BEFORE I, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY WE CAN, WE CAN DEFER TO THE, UH, TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE CAN'T CONTROL WHETHER THE APPLICANT COMES OR NOT, BUT IT'S A HUNDRED DAY CLOCK STARTS TODAY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH, SO THAT'S, I MEAN, IF YOU COULD SHOW IT CANNOT NOT SHOW UP IN, IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE.
UH, OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, P DASH 26 DASH EIGHT AND MR. BASSETT, I GUESS THAT'S BACK, BACK TO YOU FOR THAT ONE.
UH, THE, THE NEXT, UH, CASE WE HAVE IS A REZONING REQUEST, UH, BY THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER, MR. HENRY LENNON.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ON RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE.
THIS AGAIN IS ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY OFF OF SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD, UH, WHERE THE, UH, COUNTY REZONED THAT ALL OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, BETWEEN V ROADS, SQUIRREL LEVEL, ROAD TO R ONE AGAIN BACK IN THE MID 1960S.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE HIS FIVE ACRE PARCEL AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, UH, IS HE UTILIZES THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR DIFFERENT USES AND, UM, HE WANTS TO BUILD A, UH, STORAGE UTILITY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, WHEN PROPERTY'S OWNED RESIDENTIAL, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS DICTATED BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR HOME AND THE APPLICANT, UH, THE BUILDING THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, UH, THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE R ONE DISTRICT, THE 50% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF HIS HOME.
UH, SO, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE WANTS TO RE REZONE TO A TWO.
UH, THERE, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER REZONING CASES, UH, SIMILAR TO THIS IN THE PAST 1998, UH, 2011, 2018.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED FROM R ONE TO A TWO, UM, AGRICULTURAL GENERAL.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, IS SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES HAVING SIGNAL FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MAINLY ACROSS THE STREET, UH, FROM THIS RESIDENCE.
AND ON THE, UH, WHERE THE APPLICANT IS LOCATED, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S PRIMARILY, UH, FORESTAL LAND USES OPEN SPACE AND AGRICULTURAL LAND USES, UH, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE, UH, KIND OF WHAT WE CALL THE, THE SOUTHERN BOTTOM END OF THE PLANNED GROWTH AREA.
UH, WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED, SINCE ALL THAT LAND WAS ALREADY ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL, UH, IT WAS DESIGNATED AS PLANNED GROWTH AREA, UH, SINCE IT WAS ALREADY ZONED, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE REZONING, THE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S LONG RANGE PLAN OF ENCOURAGING LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL USES.
FOR THIS PART OF THE COUNTY AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A TWO SELLING DISTRICT WOULD RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO OPEN FARMLAND LOT, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SOME COMMERCIAL SERVICES.
UM, THE LESS DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE MORE FITTING, UH, TRANSITIONING TO THE MORE RURAL PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
UH, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS RELATED TO THE REZONING STAFF AS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
GIVEN THAT THEY TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING PATTERN AND SURROUNDING LAND USES THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION CONFORMS,
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THE UNDER UNDERLYING USES RECOMMENDED IN THE PLANNED GROWTH AREA AND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS GENERAL AREA.AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE RELATED TO THE STAFF REPORT.
MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, UH, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT? IS THE APPLICANT HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.
COME ON UP, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR SIDE OF THINGS.
I LIVE AT 1 0 1 2 9 SQUIRREL LEVEL ROAD.
JUST MOVED IN IN, UH, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
DID, DID ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? I I WAS GOING TO ASK STAFF, UM, AND, AND SIR, YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE MM-HMM
WE WENT THROUGH THIS KIND OF WITH THE MOBILE HOME DEAL MARK WITH CLAYTON AND STUFF.
MY CONCERN IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME STILL ALL ONE MARK.
IF WE GO BACK AND REZONE THIS, AS I SAID AT THE LAST ONE TO THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF WE REZONED THIS BACK TO AGRICULTURAL, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING PUT IN THERE THAT HE CAN'T, THEN HE CAN PUT A HOG FARM AND THE PEOPLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BESIDE HIM, THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT.
SO I RECKON I'M ASKING IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT IN? I AM, I'M NOT, I'M ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION.
ARE YOU ASKING WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO PROFFER SOMETHING ON YEAH.
ON HIS APPLICATION TO NOT TO PUT A AGRICULTURAL ANIMALS ON IT TO PROTECT THE OTHER PEOPLE? I'M NOT SURE IF THIS APPLICATION IS A CONDITIONAL REZONING WHERE PROFFERS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
I THINK THIS IS MORE JUST A STRAIGHT REZONING.
UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THE APPLICANT'S WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT, UH, WE CAN DO THAT.
OTHERWISE, I THINK THE OTHER, THE, THE ANALYSIS REALLY IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING, RIGHT? AND THAT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THAT REZONING THIS PROPERTY IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.
I I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO REPHRASE THAT.
MAKES, WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
UM, SO YOU'RE NOT APPLYING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, OUR BODY AND THE BOARD CANNOT TELL, CANNOT PLACE CONDITIONS ON THAT.
BUT IN ORDER FOR SOME OF US, MAYBE TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR IT, IF YOU WERE WILLING TO MAKE A PROFFER TO ADDRESS MR. LANGLEY'S CONCERN OUT OF YOUR OWN VOLITION, SURE IT WOULD HELP US MORE MAYBE CONSIDER IT, UH, IN A, IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT IS THAT OUR BODY CANNOT REQUIRE YOU TO DO THAT, BUT IN ORDER FOR US, MAYBE SOME OF US TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN VOTING FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT AS A PROFFER? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I IT IS A CARPORT WITH STORAGE.
SO, UM, DOESN'T THAT, I DON'T WANT TO JUNK UP THE, THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT.
I I CAME OUT HERE FOR THE PRIVACY AND, AND THE ACREAGE.
SO I I DID SAY THAT WELL ENOUGH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, AS LONG AS IT'S CLEAR THAT YEAH, IT IT IS, IT'S YOUR, IT'S A VOLUN.
YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING THAT ON YOUR OWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORDING IS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HONESTLY WANT TO DO.
SO WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MAKES THE MOTION WITH LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT IT'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING THAT IN PRINCIPLE AND THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH STAFF ON THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERN, SIR? YES.
I GUESS MY ARGUMENT TO THAT WOULD BE THE FACT THAT THIS WAS UNDER A BLANKET REZONING BY THE COUNTY.
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE TO THE RIGHT OF HIM AS FARMING, UH, TO THE LEFT OF HIM AS FARMING.
AND IF HE WANTED TO FARM, I'M TOTALLY HAPPY WITH THAT.
ANYTIME YOU CAN DOWNGRADE A ZONING BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL FORM, I'M ALWAYS HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE TALK ABOUT RULE INTEGRITY OF THE COUNTY, COUNTY BEING RURAL.
YES, THERE ARE HOUSES ACROSS THE ROAD, BUT THEY'RE ALL A TWO.
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IT IS, IT IS WITHIN YEAH, RIGHT HERE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.I MEAN I DON'T THINK THIS GENTLEMAN WOULD PUT HOGS OUT THERE.
YOU MAY GET
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S ZONED R ONE BECAUSE IT WAS A FARM BEFORE THEY REZONED IT, IT STAYS A FARM, IT GETS TO STAY IN FARMING.
IT IS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME.
YET WE CAN RUN A DAIRY, A HOG OPERATION, ANYTHING WE WANT IN THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS.
SO DID THE PROPERTIES HERE TO THE RIGHT OF THIS AND TO THE LEFT EXCEPT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S COMING THROUGH THERE.
IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
I'M TELLING YOU I WOULDN'T, UH, YOU ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN YOUR AREA.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO VOTE FOR IT TO BE A TWO.
LET THAT JUST BE SAID FOR THAT.
WELL, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED THAT MAYBE YOU MAKE A MOTION, THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE DO THAT, CAN WE OPEN? YEAH, WE GOTTA DO THE WHOLE PUBLIC THING AND ALL.
I KEEP I KEEP THINKING THERE'S NOBODY TO SPEAK AND I'M SO APOLOGETIC FOR THAT.
SO LET ME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IF EVERYBODY THAT'S HEARD THIS IS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, TO THIS CASE.
SO I'M RIGHT AS RAIN, BUT I DID WRONG.
SO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION BE RESOLVED AND IN ORDER TO ASSURE COMPLIANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 6 A SEVEN, IT IS STATED THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS INITIATED IS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE AND GOODS ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVE THAT REZONING P DASH 26 DASH EIGHT BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS.
SEVEN MEMBER PRESIDENT VOTING AYE.
P DASH 26 DASH EIGHT HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF OUR HEALTHY DEBATE.
APPRECIATE GUYS, HAVE A NICE NIGHT.
UM, MR. BASSA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS TO SHARE? NO.
MR. CHAIR? I HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS.
ANY, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? ALRIGHT.
UH, NEW BUSINESS? NO NEW BUSINESS, MR. CHAIR.
AND, UM, ANYONE ELSE? SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR COMMISSIONER
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COMMENTS.ANY, ANYONE, UH, HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, CHAT ABOUT ON THE COMMISSION SIDE OF THINGS? I'D JUST LIKE TO THINK STAFF ARE COMING TO US, UM, AND GIVING US A BRIEFING ON THE M THREE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT WEEK.
SO, UH, PLANNING COMM OR PLANNING
[11. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]
DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS? UH, THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, MS. CHAIR, IS THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW CASES, UM, COMING TO ALL NEXT FOR NEXT MONTH, OUR OCTOBER MEETING.UH, EXCEPT FOR NOW, WE WILL HAVE THE CASE THAT WAS TABLED COMING BACK BEFORE US FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SINCE THAT WAS TABLED, YOU, YOU WEREN'T READY FOR THE M THREE ORDINANCE NEXT MONTH EITHER.
UH, FOR JVR, WE ALREADY HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING AS DANIELLE REMINDED ME, SO WE WON'T HAVE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE APPLICANT TO THE MEETING TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE CASE AND THEN YOU ALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, REZONING OF THE CENTRAL STATE PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR THE M THREE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S ALWAYS REALLY GOOD TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S ON THE, A HORIZON, RIGHT? UM, ALRIGHT.
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ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.